RE: [meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread mark ford








Steve said:

 Maybe something big is headed our
way.



Hey lets hope! 





- -- Cry, stomp stomp its not fair, you guys get all the meteors, this is favoritism!! grizzle





Mark 

Quiet old UK





-Original Message-
From: Steve Schoner
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Sent: 17 October 2003 06:22
To: Michael Farmer; Ron Baalke;
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Meteor Spotted Over Utah





Maybe something big is
headed our way.











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Michael Farmer
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Good god, this has got to
be the busiest fall month on record! Where are we,
7 or 8 massive fireballs in the last month, 2 recovered falls so far.
Mike Farmer
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http://www.4utah.com/local_news/local_headlines/story.aspx?content_id=8005564E-D251-4525-B2C7-0C8AEE9B923F

 Meteorite Spotted Over Salt Lake Valley
 ABC 4 News
 October 16, 2003

 If you think you saw a UFO over the Salt Lake valley
 Thursday morning, you may not have been too far off.

 NORAD is saying they think the unidentified object
 was a meteor but they have yet to confirm their
 findings.

 ABC 4's Andrew Stack has been close on the tail of
 this meteor all day and has more.

 Thursday morning, a soldier on the firing range at
 Camp Williams looked up to see a blinding flash, and
 then a long con trail. It was a tail many others would
 see over the next few minutes.

 All of a sudden, my eyes saw something fantastic,
 describes one.

 NORAD right now is researching all their records,
 explains another.

 Around 10:30 Thursday morning, some caught a
 glimpse of a bright, white light.

 I thought, you know, I'm sitting out here taking UFO
 pictures, says Brad Gygi, an eyewitness.

 At the present time, they figure this is the high time of
 the season for meteor showers and that's what one of
 the suggestions has been, but right now, it is
 undetermined to exactly what it is, says one.

 First it flew over Camp Williams.

 ...saw an airplane going over and then he saw a white
 trail that appeared to be coming from the south about
 two o'clock and heading to the north at about eight
 o'clock, describes LTC Rick West, Camp Williams
 Training Site.

 Then it was seen over downtown Salt Lake.

 It looked like it was heading for downtown Bountiful,
 says Richard Law, another eyewitness.

 But it never made it that far.

 Naturally, with the war going on, I thought, 'oh, oh,
 what do we got here?' And then I recognized it
 immediately as a comet or a meteor because of its
 shape and the way it was going and then when it
 exploded and just disappeared, I figured it just burned
 out in the atmoshpere.

 I was lucky to get a couple that did turn out, says
 Gygi, of his pictures.

 Brad Gygi was on his way to work and was lucky
 enough to snap a few photos before 'it' exploded.

 It looked really big, a lot bigger than when you see a
 plane flying across or something and it was pretty
 bright and it looked like a pretty long tail, says Gygi.

 I just feel like anybody who didn't see it, missed out.
 It was beautiful. It was just wonderful to see it.

 The soldier who first saw this meteor reported it
 through his chain of command because he feared the
 meteor might hit one of the commuter flights preparing
 to land at Salt Lake International.

 As it turns out, air traffic controllers at Salt Lake
 International took immediate action to ensure safety
 as soon as they heard about this explosion in the sky.

 They changed incoming landing approaches for a
 couple of flights to avoid the area.

 There were no close calls, all planes landed safely and
 everything shortly returned to normal.

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[meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread mark ford








Steve said:

 Maybe something big is headed our
way.



Hey lets hope! 





- -- Cry, stomp stomp its
not fair, you guys get all the
meteors, this is favoritism!! grizzle





Mark 

Quiet old UK





-Original Message-
From: Steve Schoner
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Sent: 17 October 2003 06:22
To: Michael Farmer; Ron Baalke;
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
Meteor Spotted Over Utah





Maybe something big is
headed our way.











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[meteorite-list] etchin' juice

2003-10-17 Thread mark ford








Roman,



Sorry, but outlook (my email program snipped off the m at
the end of the link because it is longer than a whole line try this
link!



http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2002/November/meteorites_101.htm





Hope this works (if not put an m on the end of the
101.ht)



Mark Ford










Re: [meteorite-list] The Worden Meteorite]

2003-10-17 Thread Walter Branch




And who can forget Peekskill... hit a "red" car.
Think these meteorites like red cars.

I think people like red cars. My last truck was red

What color was the Benld, Illinois car. I don' think it was 
red.

-Walter
--www.branchmeteorites.comWalter 
Branch, Ph.D.Branch MeteoritesPO Box 60492Savannah, GA 
31420



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  Steve 
  Schoner 
  To: Michael Farmer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:57 
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Worden 
  Meteorite]
  
  And who can forget Peekskill... hit a "red" car.
  
  Think these meteorites like red cars.
  
  Steve SchonerMichael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Well, that is interesting, the Winslow Street 
Park forest piece damaged a red Jeep, and the other small specimen I got 
dented a maroon car in Steger. 
Mike

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  In a message dated 
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  writes: 
  The main mass has red paint on it from the 
car.Does this mean that your car 
  is more likely to get hit by a meteorite if it is RED?  (how 
  many list-members are now racing to the closest car-dealer???) 
  For the newbies: The car hit by the Peekskill meteorite was 
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[meteorite-list] NWA869 info

2003-10-17 Thread tett
Hello List,

Does anyone have an update as to the classification of NWA869 as well as
weathering and shock information?

UCLA has classified it as an L4and also as an L5.

I searched the Met. Bulliten and NWA869 is not published.  At least, I could
not find any reference in the last 4 bullitens.

I just sold a bunch of gorgeous slices to memebers of an astronomy club
where I gave a talk on meteorites.  I would like to send them some data
sheets as a follow up.

Cheers and Thanks,

Mike Tettenborn
Owen Sound, Ontario



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Re: [meteorite-list] Boom-Crash-Bang-The Worden Meteorite]

2003-10-17 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Matt,

I take it the stone is not longer on exhibit at the University of Michigan
museum?

http://www.exhibits.lsa.umich.edu/New/Events/PR/OngoingExhibits.html

-Walter


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- Original Message - 
From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:38 PM
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 Hi Tracy:
 This is the Worden meteorite that crashed through Mr. Fosters garage and
 damaged his car.  We purchased the main mass of 1496g yesterday directly
 from Mr. Foster. Two other pieces broke off the main mass upon impact
 weighed about 20g and are currently in research institutions. The main
 mass has red paint on it from the car. I will post more on this at some
 point and will probably write up something for Meteorite! magazine. It
 is a VERY interesting story.
 Worden fell on Sept 1., 1997.  It is listed in the Meteoritical Bulletin.

 Matt Morgan
 Mile High Meteorites

 tracy latimer wrote:

  Silly questions...
  New fall?
  Hit car (like Peekskill)?
  Just askin'...
 
  Tracy Latimer
 
 
  Just in...
 
  Thought some of you would like to see this newly acquired stone from
  Michigan (the car is not available!).more on it later
  http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/1.jpg
  http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/2.jpg (that is the stone lying on
  the
  concrete)
 
  Hasta la vista.
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RE: [meteorite-list] The Worden Meteorite]

2003-10-17 Thread peter scherff
Hi Walter,

The Benld car is black. The field museum has a whole display case
devoted to the car  meteorite. I guess it is safe to drive my green car.

Thanks,

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[meteorite-list] LUNARCHARITY: A Moon Rock for Emanuel!

2003-10-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear List members,

I want to focuse your attention to a benefit ebay auction in favour of a
romanian handicapped boy, who needs urgent our help.
Please don't delete the message and take a look on this auction, even when
you hate ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2197271212category=3239rd=1

If the link is not working, because it is to long, just go to www.ebay.com
and insert: moon rockin the search field.
Sorry, that I violate the policies of this list regarding ebay ads, but I
think this case is well worth it.

IMPORTANT: The entire proceeds of the auction - not just the profit - will
be used directly for this boy, without any deductions and without deviation
or mediation by any institution. For I personally will travel to Romania in
November.

I am frequently in Romania, my romanian girlfriend is working as a teacher
there.
The situation is getting worse and worse, meanwhile and this is no joke,
there are children, who starve. I wrote a little bit about the conditions in
Romania in my auction text and I could give many examples and facts about
here on this list, but because it is off-topic, you may contact me off
list. In principle the misery would be not necessary, but the members of the
government, the party, the police, the justice, the bureaucracy enrich
themselves and are corrupt in such dimensions, that even the worst african
dictator would be ashamed of. I visited countries, which are poorer than
Romania, but a country that cheat and betrays his own children and which is
so rotten as this one, I never saw.

At the moment I have not the financial means to help this boy, so I decided
to spend a slice of a new lunar meteorite find, which was thought to be my
own collection piece.

THE DEAL IS SIMPLE:  You get a good sized piece of a rare Moon rock
(0.292gm, not a speck!) and the boy will get a wheelchair, a computer for
writing and medication.

For those, who are quite new to meteorite collecting, there exist an
excellent site about lunar meteorites here:
http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/moon_meteorites.html

Of course one buys not everyday such a rare meteorite, but it's for a good
purpose.
It's not published yet, but I can assure of being everything alright with
this new find
(it's already analysed and anounced to the Meteoritical Society, will get
its own Dhofar number in a few weeks, I am an IMCA member, and and and)

The finder is a member of this list,
So perhaps Norbert you can say some words?

The data:

Dhofar xxx
Provisional Nr. 2001, Fieldnr HC 42
Wadi Quitbit, Dhofar, Oman
Find: January 2003
Tkw: 245.46g
Impact melt breccia, LUN-A
Possibly paired with Dhofar 302, 305, 306, 307
It's a pretty one, very colourfull, has many different clasts and all in all
a fresher appearance than most other lunaites!

Other contributions are always welcome!!! There are missing the most
elementary things and thus even the smallest aid causes big effects.

For those, who don't like ebay, but want to participate in that charity
auction: It is not necessary to register there, you can tell me the maximum
amount, which you are willing to spend for that Moon and I will ask a friend
to place the bid for you.
His ebay ID is:  klaus_hartmann
This is also important to know for the others to see that there's no chill
bidding.

I know that there are many warmhearted and social comitted people here on
the list, I already received first donations (I will thank them all, when I
give the outcome here on the list),
please help, that the charity aution will be a success!

Thank You All!
Martin Altmann
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[meteorite-list] ebay chat

2003-10-17 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list I just noticed since the meteorite chatroom is not up,you can
access the chat sequence thru yahoo where it says chat.For all those that
had been in the meteorite chat room before it would be a great way to
communicate with each other on a more private/public way.Just thought I
would throw it to you all.

steve arnold

=
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I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
 
 



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RE: [meteorite-list] Boom-Crash-Bang-The Worden Meteorite]

2003-10-17 Thread Matt Morgan
Nope. It is on my desk.
Matt

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Hi Matt,

I take it the stone is not longer on exhibit at the University of Michigan
museum?

http://www.exhibits.lsa.umich.edu/New/Events/PR/OngoingExhibits.html

-Walter


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- Original Message - 
From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Boom-Crash-Bang-The Worden Meteorite]


 Hi Tracy:
 This is the Worden meteorite that crashed through Mr. Fosters garage and
 damaged his car.  We purchased the main mass of 1496g yesterday directly
 from Mr. Foster. Two other pieces broke off the main mass upon impact
 weighed about 20g and are currently in research institutions. The main
 mass has red paint on it from the car. I will post more on this at some
 point and will probably write up something for Meteorite! magazine. It
 is a VERY interesting story.
 Worden fell on Sept 1., 1997.  It is listed in the Meteoritical Bulletin.

 Matt Morgan
 Mile High Meteorites

 tracy latimer wrote:

  Silly questions...
  New fall?
  Hit car (like Peekskill)?
  Just askin'...
 
  Tracy Latimer
 
 
  Just in...
 
  Thought some of you would like to see this newly acquired stone from
  Michigan (the car is not available!).more on it later
  http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/1.jpg
  http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/2.jpg (that is the stone lying on
  the
  concrete)
 
  Hasta la vista.
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  Mile High Meteorites
  http://www.mhmeteorites.com
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  Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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[meteorite-list] RE:Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread MrX3010

"They changed incoming landing approaches for a
couple of flights to avoid the area. 

There were no close calls, all planes landed safely and
everything shortly returned to normal. "

"And then I recognized it
immediately as a comet or a meteor because of its
shape and the way it was going and then when it
exploded and just disappeared,..."


Exactly how high do the planes out there fly again and when is the last time anyone has seen a comet explode and disappear in the atmosphere?
Yet another desperate example of a need for public education.


Have a good day,
Ron






Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread Dave Schultz
  This might be a bit premature, but currently I`m
checking out a possible fall here in Indiana. Someone
that I work with told me awhile back, that something
hit his cousins or brothers garage roof who lives out
in the country, but you know how that usually ends up
being. I keep telling him to bring it to me so that I
can check it out, but we have been really busy at
work. I`m not getting my hopes up, but sure would like
to see what ever it was. Tomorrow, Saturday is my one
day off, so I will try to get in touch with him and
see. I will post pictures if it might seem authentic.
Wish me luck!!!
Dave

 
 Meteorite Spotted Over Salt Lake Valley
 ABC 4 News
 October 16, 2003
 
 If you think you saw a UFO over the Salt Lake valley
 Thursday morning, you may not have been too far off.
 
 
 NORAD is saying they think the unidentified object
 was a meteor but they have yet to confirm their
 findings. 
 
 ABC 4's Andrew Stack has been close on the tail of
 this meteor all day and has more. 
 
 Thursday morning, a soldier on the firing range at
 Camp Williams looked up to see a blinding flash, and
 then a long con trail. It was a tail many others
 would
 see over the next few minutes. 
 
 All of a sudden, my eyes saw something fantastic,
 describes one. 
 
 NORAD right now is researching all their records,
 explains another. 
 
 Around 10:30 Thursday morning, some caught a
 glimpse of a bright, white light. 
 
 I thought, you know, I'm sitting out here taking
 UFO
 pictures, says Brad Gygi, an eyewitness. 
 
 At the present time, they figure this is the high
 time of
 the season for meteor showers and that's what one of
 the suggestions has been, but right now, it is
 undetermined to exactly what it is, says one.
 
 First it flew over Camp Williams. 
 
 ...saw an airplane going over and then he saw a
 white
 trail that appeared to be coming from the south
 about
 two o'clock and heading to the north at about eight
 o'clock, describes LTC Rick West, Camp Williams
 Training Site. 
 
 Then it was seen over downtown Salt Lake. 
 
 It looked like it was heading for downtown
 Bountiful,
 says Richard Law, another eyewitness. 
 
 But it never made it that far. 
 
 Naturally, with the war going on, I thought, 'oh,
 oh,
 what do we got here?' And then I recognized it
 immediately as a comet or a meteor because of its
 shape and the way it was going and then when it
 exploded and just disappeared, I figured it just
 burned
 out in the atmoshpere. 
 
 I was lucky to get a couple that did turn out,
 says
 Gygi, of his pictures. 
 
 Brad Gygi was on his way to work and was lucky
 enough to snap a few photos before 'it' exploded. 
 
 It looked really big, a lot bigger than when you
 see a
 plane flying across or something and it was pretty
 bright and it looked like a pretty long tail, says
 Gygi. 
 
 I just feel like anybody who didn't see it, missed
 out.
 It was beautiful. It was just wonderful to see it. 
 
 The soldier who first saw this meteor reported it
 through his chain of command because he feared the
 meteor might hit one of the commuter flights
 preparing
 to land at Salt Lake International. 
 
 As it turns out, air traffic controllers at Salt
 Lake
 International took immediate action to ensure safety
 as soon as they heard about this explosion in the
 sky. 
 
 They changed incoming landing approaches for a
 couple of flights to avoid the area. 
 
 There were no close calls, all planes landed safely
 and
 everything shortly returned to normal. 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-17 Thread harlan trammell

call a local college and ask their chemistry department head what THEY do w/ used up lab chemicals.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal 
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:03:36 EDT 
 
A while back I thought I'd try my hand at doing some iron-etching. After a 
few less than impressive attempts, and with the increasing realization that 
nitric acid is tremendously nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get rid of the 
(almost) gallon I have. My local city Household Hazmat Disposal Center won't deal 
with it, as it's not "household" waste, and the Business Hazmat Disposal Center 
won't deal with it because I'm not a business. 
 
I'm wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of dilution-process and 
dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or suggestions, on-list or off. 
Thanx 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread fcressy
OK, Good luck Dave :-)

Regards,
Frank

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   This might be a bit premature, but currently I`m
 checking out a possible fall here in Indiana. Someone
 that I work with told me awhile back, that something
 hit his cousins or brothers garage roof who lives out
 in the country, but you know how that usually ends up
 being. I keep telling him to bring it to me so that I
 can check it out, but we have been really busy at
 work. I`m not getting my hopes up, but sure would like
 to see what ever it was. Tomorrow, Saturday is my one
 day off, so I will try to get in touch with him and
 see. I will post pictures if it might seem authentic.
 Wish me luck!!!
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[meteorite-list] Kelly LL4

2003-10-17 Thread John Gwilliam
Good Morning All,
I'm looking for a piece of the stone (LL4) meteorite Kelly from 
Colorado.  If you have any available, please reply to me off list.

Best,

John Gwilliam

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[meteorite-list] NWA 995 and 997

2003-10-17 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All,

If anybody has slices of either of these two meteorites, please
contact me if you'd like their classifications.  --Rob

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[meteorite-list] meteorite information NWA 995 997

2003-10-17 Thread Steven Drummond



Hi list ,ThankYou 
Robert Matson for the information regarding NWA 995 And NWA 997.Now 
this is a much better use of the list , Information ! Now if I 
could only get the other sellers that had pre-classifications to post their 
findings to the list (when they get them finalized) I could clear up allot of 
stray pieces that need the final results.
 I appreciate this information 
because as time goes on I forget who to ask for which meteorite awaiting final 
results . We all know this can be quite some time in any case.
With the exception of a few like Park Forest 
that seemed to get classified almost as fast as it hit the ground.
 
Best Regards to all , Steven Drummond 
 
"The Unknown Collector" :-) 


[meteorite-list] Pervomaisky

2003-10-17 Thread Ing. Christian ANGER
Hi All !

I am looking for a piece of the Pervomaisky 
meteorite (Russian L6 fell 26.December 1933).

I need it for a birthday present.
I need it quickly - who can help me ?

Christian




IMCA #2673
www.austromet.com

Ing. Christian ANGER
Korngasse 6   
2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg  
AUSTRIA

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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-17 Thread David Freeman
Dear Harlan, List;
One can dilute acids with baking soda. Always wear eye protection and 
glasses, and do it in a well ventilated space, or better yet, out of doors.
One of my favorite environmental phrases is the solution to polution is 
dilution  which in this casewell, my muratic acid for cleaning the 
calache off my petrified wood, etc, is encouraged by the local city 
admin. guy as it helps clean the nasty alkaline deposits off the sewer 
pipes.  Our water, as is most water in the western US has hard stuff in 
it that gets disolved by a little acid now and then.
dilute the water with acid,  and add baking soda, done deal.  Check with 
a ph strip, and flush.
Dave F.

harlan trammell wrote:

call a local college and ask their chemistry department head what THEY 
do w/ used up lab chemicals.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal Date: Thu, 16 Oct 
2003 16:03:36 EDT  A while back I thought I'd try my hand at doing 
some iron-etching. After a few less than impressive attempts, and 
with the increasing realization that nitric acid is tremendously 
nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get rid of the (almost) gallon I 
have. My local city Household Hazmat Disposal Center won't deal with 
it, as it's not household waste, and the Business Hazmat Disposal 
Center won't deal with it because I'm not a business.  I'm 
wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of dilution-process 
and dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or suggestions, 
on-list or off. Thanx   Gregory


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[meteorite-list] See ya!

2003-10-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I emailed the IMCA with a request to be removed as a member, we
don't seem to see eye to eye on some subjects. I will also be leaving the
List for awhile, at least until I get a renewed interest in meteorites, I
have lost it. You are a great group of people and I thank you all for
everything! You might see me bidding on one of ebay actions from time to
time, I still have things I need. : )   Until next time..
Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - October 13-17, 2003

2003-10-17 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 13-17, 2003

o Terra Sirenum crater (Released 13 October 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031013a.html

o Dunes on Ice (Released 14 October 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031014a.html

o A Diminutive Volcano (Released 15 October 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031015a.html

o Wonders of Eos Chasma (Released 16 October 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031016a.html

o Meridiani Planum (Released 17 October 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20031017a.html


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] test?

2003-10-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-17 Thread John Gwilliam
Hello All,
Thanks to Dave Freeman for the acid disposal idea. Here are a few more ideas.
 It is very important that you dilute the acid with LOTS of water, a ratio 
of 10 parts water to 1 part acid might be a good place to start.  The more 
water you use, the better.  If you add baking soda to undiluted acid, you 
will get a near explosive reaction, so MAKE SURE you dilute the acid with 
enough water.  In addition to wearing eye protection, wear rubber gloves, 
old shoes and old long pants.  In the event you spill some of the acid 
solution, you don't want to ruin your clothes. A rubberized or plastic 
apron like the ones sold at lapidary stores is a good idea too.

Another thing.  Don't dump an entire container of the baking soda into your 
acid solution all at once.  Add a little bit at a time to give you an idea 
of how much the combination will react and expand.

Best,
John Gwiliam
At 01:26 PM 10/17/03 -0600, David Freeman wrote:
Dear Harlan, List;
One can dilute acids with baking soda. Always wear eye protection and 
glasses, and do it in a well ventilated space, or better yet, out of doors.
One of my favorite environmental phrases is the solution to polution is 
dilution  which in this casewell, my muratic acid for cleaning the 
calache off my petrified wood, etc, is encouraged by the local city admin. 
guy as it helps clean the nasty alkaline deposits off the sewer 
pipes.  Our water, as is most water in the western US has hard stuff in it 
that gets disolved by a little acid now and then.
dilute the water with acid,  and add baking soda, done deal.  Check with a 
ph strip, and flush.
Dave F.

harlan trammell wrote:

call a local college and ask their chemistry department head what THEY do 
w/ used up lab chemicals.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric 
acid disposal Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:03:36 EDT  A while back I 
thought I'd try my hand at doing some iron-etching. After a few less 
than impressive attempts, and with the increasing realization 
that nitric acid is tremendously nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get 
rid of the (almost) gallon I have. My local city Household Hazmat 
Disposal Center won't deal with it, as it's not household waste, and 
the Business Hazmat Disposal Center won't deal with it because I'm not 
a business.  I'm wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of 
dilution-process and dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or 
suggestions, on-list or off. Thanx   Gregory


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[meteorite-list] Question regarding NWA 1827 paired

2003-10-17 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems








Hi list,



I wonder if there is new info
on the status of the material paired with NWA 1827 (TWK: app. 80kg). The last
thing I have heard is that it isnt really classified as metal
rich diogenite anymore. Who knows more? Thanks
in advance and



Kind
regards,



Bernhard Rendelius
Rems

CEO RPGDot.com

Managing Director RPGDot Network












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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-17 Thread tett



Better yet, donate the stuff. It lasts a long 
time and high schools as well as colleges use nitric acid. Of course, they 
may not be allowed to accept the acid without proper MSDS sheets or proof that 
it is not contaminated.

Cheers,

tett

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid 
  disposal
  
  
  
  call a local college and ask their chemistry department head what THEY do 
  w/ used up lab chemicals.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal 
  Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:03:36 EDT 
   
  A while back I thought I'd try my hand at doing some 
  iron-etching. After a 
  few less than impressive attempts, and with the increasing 
  realization that 
  nitric acid is tremendously nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get 
  rid of the 
  (almost) gallon I have. My local city Household Hazmat Disposal 
  Center won't deal 
  with it, as it's not "household" waste, and the Business Hazmat 
  Disposal Center 
  won't deal with it because I'm not a business. 
   
  I'm wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of 
  dilution-process and 
  dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or suggestions, 
  on-list or off. 
  Thanx 
   
   Gregory 
  
  
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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah

2003-10-17 Thread Claudia Carroll


Mark

I know what you mean. Think Alabama has had 2 in its history and one of them didn't like us enough it tried to take a woman out when it landed.

James Carroll




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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor Spotted Over Utah


Steve said:
 Maybe something big is headed our way.

Hey let’s hope! 


- -- Cry, stomp stomp’ its not fair, you guys get all the meteors, this is favoritism!! grizzle


Mark 
Quiet old UK


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Maybe something big is headed our way.



Steve Schoner/ams



Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-17 Thread Howard Wu

I have given this some thought last night and have come up with a better protocaol for Nitric acid disposal.

1) Best to turn fuming nitric acid to nitric acid 5% or less first adding acid to water as we all know.

2) Baking soda or washing soda does fizz alot then that leaves sodium residue which isn't bad down the drain if that is where it's going.

3) Another inexpensive alkali is household ammonia NH4OH. Adding diluted nitric acid to an excess amount of dilute ammonia (carefully as all these reactions are exothermic.) woulld leave you with an ammonium nitrate solution( with ammonia test pH to alkaii )that is commonly used as fertilizer. This can be dumped on the ground around plants. 

I haven't tried this but it is theoretically sound.

Still it is best to use up the acid like for processing gold in black sands.

Best idea for the brave: and a little sulfuric acid then pour on sawdust or cotton. Use to make model ofyour own impact crater. Nitric acid will totally gone.

Howard Wu

Howard WuJohn Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,Thanks to Dave Freeman for the acid disposal idea. Here are a few more ideas.It is very important that you dilute the acid with LOTS of water, a ratio of 10 parts water to 1 part acid might be a good place to start. The more water you use, the better. If you add baking soda to undiluted acid, you will get a near explosive reaction, so MAKE SURE you dilute the acid with enough water. In addition to wearing eye protection, wear rubber gloves, old shoes and old long pants. In the event you spill some of the acid solution, you don't want to ruin your clothes. A rubberized or plastic apron like the ones sold at lapidary stores is a good idea too.Another thing. Don't dump an entire container of the baking soda into your acid solution all at once. Add a little bit at a time to give you an idea of how much the combination
 will react and expand.Best,John GwiliamAt 01:26 PM 10/17/03 -0600, David Freeman wrote:Dear Harlan, List;One can dilute acids with baking soda. Always wear eye protection and glasses, and do it in a well ventilated space, or better yet, out of doors.One of my favorite environmental phrases is "the solution to polution is dilution" which in this casewell, my muratic acid for cleaning the calache off my petrified wood, etc, is encouraged by the local city admin. guy as it helps clean the nasty alkaline deposits off the sewer pipes. Our water, as is most water in the western US has hard stuff in it that gets disolved by a little acid now and then.dilute the water with acid, and add baking soda, done deal. Check with a ph strip, and flush.Dave F.harlan trammell wrote:call a local college and ask their chemistry department head
 what THEY do w/ used up lab chemicals. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric  acid disposal Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:03:36 EDT  A while back I  thought I'd try my hand at doing some iron-etching. After a few less  than impressive attempts, and with the increasing realization  that nitric acid is tremendously nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get  rid of the (almost) gallon I have. My local city Household Hazmat  Disposal Center won't deal with it, as it's not "household" waste, and  the Business Hazmat Disposal Center won't deal with it because I'm not  a business.  I'm wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of  dilution-process and dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or  suggestions,
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[meteorite-list] Today's meteorite fall anniversary

2003-10-17 Thread Sharkkb8



http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/candlestickrock.jpg

From time to time listees acknowledge meteorite fall anniversaries, and today issuch a date, the14th anniversary of a Californiafall which is largely unknown by most collectors. I narrowly missed being struck by this falling "concrete chondrite", which "fell" in San Francisco's Candlestick Park on October 17, 1989 at 5:03p (earthquake, 7.0 on the Richter Scale), at Game Three of the World Series. I hastily stuck this piece in my pocket (as I ran like hell out from under the stepped-concrete stadium overhang,like everyone around me). Note the specimen's "Certificate of Authenticity" on the right.And no, it wasn't red-hot when I picked it up. ;-)

 Gregory 

P.S. At the moment the earthquake struck, Ihonestly DO remember thinking, "Well, if you have to die, it may as well be at the World Series." But while I underwent nothing more serious than afew minutesof terrorand a subsequentbizarre few days "trapped" in a crippled major American city, of course many people lost their lives at that moment, so I don't wishthis list-postto seem TOO light-hearted.


Re: [meteorite-list] Today's meteorite fall anniversary

2003-10-17 Thread j . divelbiss
Gregory,

Being a big baseball fan...I was parked about 4 feet from the TV when it all 
occurred. My most vivid memory was the first scene of the sandwiched highway 
in Oakland which horrified me in an instance...yet to this day I'll never 
know why the announcer describing the scene we were looking at that moment 
said the road looked a bit shaken up, but no major damage was evident. They 
could not tell the two roads had been stacked on top of each other. A 
stunning sight.

I won't forget it, but I'm sure I/we didn't have the response you experienced.

Thanx for sharing,

John
 


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[meteorite-list] Question about NWA 1827 pairing

2003-10-17 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernhard and others,

Owning a piece of 1827, and of one similar (still not sure of it's number), 
the report I have on 1827 from my supplier is that is was classified as a 
diogenite rich mesosiderite (and not a metal-rich diogenite...no such thing). 

And for those who do not own a piece of it...it is a beauty. One piece was 
cut and sent without a polish, and the other one is polished. Both are 
awesome. I believe that 1879 will also be paired with it. I know Adam has 
some knowledge of this possiblity, but the analysis may not be done yet. 
There may be other numbers involved also...not sure.

Hope that helps,

John


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Re: [meteorite-list] Today's meteorite fall anniversary

2003-10-17 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Gregory,

Nothing like a near-miss by an act of god
to marvelously focus one's attention!

Sterling
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I hastily stuck this piece in my pocket (as I ran like hell out
 from under the stepped-concrete stadium overhang, like everyone around
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 1827 pairing

2003-10-17 Thread Adam Hupe
Hello Everybody,

The List sure has been very pleasant lately, a nice change.  About NWA 1879,
I believe it is paired with NWA 1827 and a few others.  Three scientists
came to the same conclusion regarding this Mesosiderite.  It is believed to
be an ultra rare 2C.  This is a very confusing situation because at least
two other Mesosiderites which are not paired to each other have shown up in
the last year and a half.  As a matter of fact the scientists are referring
to them as The Mess of Mesos and are still trying to figure out TKWs and
other pertinent data.  At first it was believed there was 80 kilos of NWA
1827 but the real figure is less because several masses where counted twice.
This happened because they changed ownership and were reported twice.  As
more data becomes available we would be happy to update the List.

All the best,

Adam Hupe







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 Bernhard and others,

 Owning a piece of 1827, and of one similar (still not sure of it's
number),
 the report I have on 1827 from my supplier is that is was classified as a
 diogenite rich mesosiderite (and not a metal-rich diogenite...no such
thing).

 And for those who do not own a piece of it...it is a beauty. One piece was
 cut and sent without a polish, and the other one is polished. Both are
 awesome. I believe that 1879 will also be paired with it. I know Adam has
 some knowledge of this possiblity, but the analysis may not be done yet.
 There may be other numbers involved also...not sure.

 Hope that helps,

 John


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[meteorite-list] New Web Address

2003-10-17 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
I have a new web address along with several new images of my collection.
Hope you enjoy!
Regards,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932 Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South Carolina
29316-7401
USA
Tel: 1-864-578-5188
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html




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