[meteorite-list] Stone cairns on dry lakes
Hi Charlie and List, I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a thesis on The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far West: towards a solution. :-) You're on to me! While I admit to a certain altruism for helping my fellow meteorite hunters by piling up all the offending rocks, my subconscious plan all along has been to build a sort of Kilroy was here legacy with all these cairns. Hard not to be motivated to leave some lasting calling card when you find so many Native American artifacts while searching for meteorites. Unfortunately, Mother Nature does not share my enthusiasm for tagging: it is amazing how quickly these cairns get scattered by water and wind. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - Saddam Hussein Captured
Hello all Saddam Hussein it has been captured this morning to Tikrit Well! Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** Big individuals on Ebay ***
Dear list I have listed some nice and big individuals on ebay of my personnal recovered finds, which includes: Wadi Mellene ( L3.8) , BIG INDIVIDUALS Some of my new finds in the Sahara including a very interesting meteorites: Eucrite ( TI HEDJIRINE ) 2 Carbonaceous chondrites (TECHOUEN C03 and TIOULALOUALENE CV3) Techouen has a ridiculous TKW of 79 g. Take your chance I have little left. Some rare DAG and HaH . Just have a look for fun. Thanks for bidding. Best regards Michel FRANCO Met Soc member and IMCA #3869 member __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ingesting Martians...
HI, And not only did I let Hal, my youngest teeth on an ex-Krinov S-A, my other 2 boys have also eaten tiny frags of Nakhla! They still talk about that to this day, and not to their therapist either! Mmm.spacy! as H. Simpson would retort God, I an really not a fit parent!! What a waste of a classic meteorite, eh? love and lust! dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Consumption
Adam Hupe was right! He predicted the next meteorite craze would be edibles. Bill Kieskowski This could be a new meteorite market bonanza. Eat your meteorites, don't display them. Become part of the universe. Hell with Viagra.. try a slice of Alende and truly see stars. If everyone eats their meteorites , then they become a consumable item. Good for repeat business. Could solve the dilemma that Michael writes about in his columns NWA's become fast food. Esquel is Prime Rib. Zagami is Lobster. I gotta go to bed... CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom aka James Knudson Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:20 PM To: Rob Wesel; Sterling K. Webb; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Consumption Hello Rob and List, All this talk about meteorite consumption, well I had to give it a try! But, I found it depressing! Have any of you meteorite eaters experienced depression afterwards? I can't tell if it is an after effect or that it is that I just ate my favorite 78g Bensour whole? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Consumption I have a 40 gram vial of Camel Donga that is powdered to the consistency of corn starch (for, I believe, refraction studies) that I occasionally break out for eating straight or mixing up a cosmic cocktail. The Moon...no. Vesta...yes. I find it strangely satisfying to commune with the cosmos in such a way. Carcinogenesis aside, I recommend it to anyone to take a nibble and see if it doesn't evoke a greater sense of reverence. I have enjoyed Mbale (do what the Romans do) and Zagami (at the suggestion of fellow list member and friend Dave Harris, who has also eaten Zagami along with his three sons for the sake of Mars appreciation) as well , but found them gritty...go figure. I can also speak for list member Mark Ferguson as we ate some Camel Donga together. And while we are at it, Dave Harris' infant son teethed on a Krinov labeled Sikhote-Alin. We are made from stars to begin with, everything is, and we are what we eat so they say. I will bring some Camel Donga to Tucson for anyone who wants a sprinkle. Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Cutting Meteorites Hi, We're talking here about the bodily incorporation of extra-terrestial material, whether by aspiration or ingestion. On the other hand, when Kim Stanley Robinson, the author of the Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), finished the 12,000 manuscript pages and sent them to the publisher for the final publication, he sat on the roof of his house at dawn and ATE A ZAGAMI! Having metaphorically digested Mars, he thought it appropriate to partially metabolize the actual planet. (It was a small Zagami and it was powdered.) OK, 'fess up! Has anybody on the List taken a tiny nibble of the MOON? Sterling K. Webb -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob - Not Chondrite Lung disease. Just Garden variety lung and nasal cancer. CharlyV - First my geocities site has gremlins, and now Bob M. can't do his hobby in peace without fear of catching some fierce E.T. disease...you're a real hypochondrite, man !! Just joking Charly, for what it's worth I'm a chemist, and CharlyV is right on (Peace). According to the American EPA (see link), it is a linear response relating refinery dust (includes sulfides), if your breathe it chronically you will have one in 10,000 odds, at 0.004 grams per cubic meter of air. That is considered quite large by toxicologists (chemist usually don't read the instructions, so chemists aren't usually of much help...their life spans are on the average 10 years less, too, really, and lets not look at the last years of quality). So it is a recognized human carcinogen. They further say it is a linear cause effect relationship and show some epidimological numbers. Which roughly translate that snorting 0.000146 grams per cubic meter of air for just one day of the year having the same 1 in 10,000 results. Or looked at another way: The average person breathes about 8 cubic meters of air per day. These odds
[meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer
Well well.but probably it has not learned the lesson inasmuch as it continues to put in sale this fakes http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=golfyxinclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=golfyx regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Caliche removal technique wanted !
Dear List I wander if there is a micraculous technique to eliminate calice from meteorites. I have noticed that calice protects well the crust but it is always hard to get totally rid if it. Best regards Michel FRANCO __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Sorry for the type failure, Steve ! Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Chirsian and all: The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the subject line so that list members would be clear that the email contained an ad. I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in particular would say "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 days", etc etc. You get the idea. Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this list which is a much much bigger problem than theoccasional ebay ad announcement. As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they wish to open an "AD" email. Randy From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100 Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question about Schlierenbands in Ataxites
Hello list, I can't find a proper definition of the schlieren bands, nor what causes them to be in ataxites. Not in my books, nor in the web. All what I found, were several semantic explanation or paraphrases in english of the german word Schlieren. Not even helpful... (Schlieren are those stripes and bands, which you detect after you finished to clean the windows, so that you have to start the work again.) Here's an example of schlieren bands in Chinga (sorry for the semi-ad, but I couldn't find a single picture in the web - obviously nobody is etching ataxites?): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2210687242category=3239 or search for: schlieren Thanks in advance! Martin A. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern
[meteorite-list] AD/Sale: 1 x 1 inch boxes and ebay sale
Hello Everyone, First, to address Christian's concerns. BEGIN LEGAL DISCLAIMER: These are just my opinions and mine alone. I do not have any malicious or libelous intentions toward anyone and I am perfectly happy with the knowledge that others do not agree with me. Live and let live, I'm okay, you're okay, one size fitsall, objects in mirror are closer than they appear, do not bend, fold or mutilate, don't eat yellow snow, dry clean only yada, yada, etc..., etc... END LEGAL DISCLAIMER I won't join the yahoo group to post ebay announcements because of two reasons. It is my understanding, and I could be wrong about this,that one has to be an IMCA member in order to post (or at least IMCA membership is preferred), and, for reasons which I will not elaborate,I have no intention of joining the IMCA. Second,the idea of a whole list devoted to ebay auctions sounds awfully silly to me. I know how to get to ebay and how to check for meteorite auctions and I know how to bid and sell on ebay. Everyone else whois reading these wordsknows how to do these tasks as well andI really don't see the need for a separate list devoted to things which Iand others already know how to do. And, well, I guess there is a third reason. Given that somelist members seem to enjoy participating in mud-slinging, libelous posts, threats and accusations, childish behavior and general intolerance of personality/cultural differences among others, Ihave no problem with comparatively innocuous and at least in some way meteorite-related ebay ads. Besides, apparently Art doesn't mind either. Now... I recently got in a bunch of those 1 x 1 inch boxes that some of us use to house micromounts, the ones with the foam pads. I normally sell them for .50 each but for list members they are.35 each, any quantity, plus a small shipping charge. Also, beginning tomorrow evening EST and lasting for several days, I will be selling some meteorites and supplies on ebay. I really don't know what some of what I haveis worth, so I will start all auctions at .01 and let the free market decide. These include a huge 619 gram individual of NWA 869, a 383 gram Odessa, a slice of Valera (the cow killer from Argentina), a crusted Pultusk endpiece, display/storage cases, a lot consisting of 5 meteorite books and 5 meteorites, and a huge collection of maybe 40 or sospecimens, complete with storage box and cases. Maybe even some cutting and polishing equipment (have not decided on that yet). Some auctions are underway already and some won't start until later but they are all only 3 day auctions. This will be the only email concerning this sale :-) Thanks and bis spater, -Walter --www.branchmeteorites.comWalter Branch, Ph.D.Branch MeteoritesPO Box 60492Savannah, GA 31420
[meteorite-list] AD: MetCollector 1.1 Meteorite Database
I have put up MetCollector, my meteorite database for MS Access 2000 and later on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2210654 872 A couple of people from this list are already using it, even with larger collections, and are happy with it. MetCollector comes to you as an email attachment, and if you order it off-ebay, it will only cost you $45, because I save on the ebay fees then. If you are interested, please be sure to read the ebay ad for technical specifications - people having XP or Windows 2000 and Access have no problems using the database (the only exception is Steve A., who can't get it to work - hint: maybe some other owner of the program could step in there and help him, I am quite positive it is NOT incompatibility but some misconception on the human side of the equation). And yes, if you order it off-ebay, I'll gladly accept some meteorite stuff (preferably classified NWA stuff) as compensation. :-) Regards, Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Saddam Hussein Captured
In a message dated 12/14/2003 3:19:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Saddam Hussein it has been captured this morning toTikrit I couldn't believe it when I read the news this morning. I'm as thrilled as a little speckled pup. GeoZay
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Dear all, I did not know about the word "AD" to be added in the subject line and will do it from now on, when I indicate to the List that we have new items for sale on our web site. Sorry for my recent "AD", which wasn't indicated so. Kind regards. Frederic Beroudwww.meteoriteshow.comIMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Chirsian and all: The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the subject line so that list members would be clear that the email contained an ad. I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in particular would say "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 days", etc etc. You get the idea. Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this list which is a much much bigger problem than theoccasional ebay ad announcement. As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they wish to open an "AD" email. Randy From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100 Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
Charlie, Your last comment reminded me of this book: Walter M. Miller's acclaimed SF classic A Canticle for Leibowitz opens with the accidental excavation of a holy artifact: a creased, brittle memo scrawled by the hand of the blessed Saint Leibowitz, that reads: Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels--bring home for Emma Grant Elliott - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake Hi Rob, John, Mark and list Rob wrote: In a given day at Roach, I probably pick up a couple thousand rocks, piling them up in this manner. I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a thesis on The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far West: towards a solution. :-) I was just looking at a copy of Ancient Hunters of the Far West, 1966, by Malcolm Rogers, a former director of the San Diego Museum of Man. Many photos of stone cairns and stone enclosures dubbed sleeping circles in southern California. Apparently these are several thousand years old. Makes me chuckle to think in a millennium or 2, people may scratch their heads over all those meteorite hunter rock piles. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
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Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet To: list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
There is NO list policy banning the announcement of ebay auctions on this list. It was agreed some time ago that the word "ad" should appear in the subject line so that list members not wanting to read advertisements did not have to even open the email. Check the list policies and you see that I am correct. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Just because some list members HATE ebay does not mean they have the power to ban ebay ads. They should direct their efforts to more important list problems such as vulgarity and flame wars. So post away Michel. I would love to know when your ebay ads appear. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michel Franco To: Peter Marmet ; list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet To: list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Frederic, Randy and others, General List Policy # 9 states: If you are posting a URL for a Sale, include 'SALE' in the subject box. This was established by Art Jones. I don't see how discussion on the list can change or modify this to read AD, or the need for AD when SALE works just as well. My best, Thomasmeteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I did not know about the word "AD" to be added in the subject line and will do it from now on, when I indicate to the List that we have new items for sale on our web site. Sorry for my recent "AD", which wasn't indicated so. Kind regards. Frederic Beroudwww.meteoriteshow.comIMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Chirsian and all: The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the subject line so that list members would be clear that the email contained an ad. I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in particular would say "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 days", etc etc. You get the idea. Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this list which is a much much bigger problem than theoccasional ebay ad announcement. As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they wish to open an "AD" email. Randy From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100 Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: [meteorite-list] Weekly eBayMeteorites Invitation.
Steve, My condolences in the death of your Mother. It's never easy even when we know it's coming. I'm glad you were able to speak some good words about her atthe memorial service and as you note,your Mother'sprayers for your recovery were reflected in this action. May God bless you, give you peace and better health during the Christmas season. My best, Thomas H. WebbSteve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all,I would like to invite all to take a look at:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/to see this week's running eBay meteorite auctions.I have not had time to review them and delete theauctions that have ended, as I am currently inClaremont, CA with my family after the memorialservice for my mother.I had to delever a eulogy statement and being that Iam in recovery from ADEM, and disabled, it was verydifficult.But the fact that I am alive now, and able to speakwas a tribute to her prayers, even as she was dying ofcancer, as I myself was on my deathbed in January ofthis year.Steve Schoner/ams__Do you Yahoo!?New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.http://photos.yahoo.com/__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
Hello Grant, Rob, and list Grant wrote: Your last comment reminded me of this book: Walter M. Miller's acclaimed SF classic A Canticle for Leibowitz opens with the accidental excavation of a holy artifact: a creased brittle memo scrawled by the hand of the blessed Saint Leibowitz, that reads: Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels--bring home for Emma. Grant, that is one of my favorite SF novels. As I recall, it's set in what is Utah today, long after our civilization has vanished. And the memo is part of the sacred scripture of a monastic order living in the desert. Deserts and the monastic lifestyle always attracted me and I enjoy the theme of post apocalyptic worlds in the SF genre. Some years ago there was a spoof written of archaeological over-interpretation, the name escapes me, in which a team of future archaeologists excavate a McDonald's and interpret it as a religious temple from our times. Serious message: don't assume you understand the past so well, check your preconceptions at the door. Rob, be a shame if enough of your meteorite hunting reject piles don't survive long enough to keep future archaeologists on their toes. Astronomical alignments among the stone cairns of Roach Dry Lake. A ceremonial cairn complex at Roach Dry Lake. Best of luck finding meteorites and artifacts ( my 2 favorite collectables ). Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Hi Jim, hi list , I don't have a problem with this options. I just wanted to clear this subject. If others post their auctions to the list using AD or SALE option then I will also continue to do so. best regards, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Strope Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:37 PM To: Michel Franco; Peter Marmet; list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group There is NO list policy banning the announcement of ebay auctions on this list. It was agreed some time ago that the word ad should appear in the subject line so that list members not wanting to read advertisements did not have to even open the email. Check the list policies and you see that I am correct. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Just because some list members HATE ebay does not mean they have the power to ban ebay ads. They should direct their efforts to more important list problems such as vulgarity and flame wars. So post away Michel. I would love to know when your ebay ads appear. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michel Franco To: Peter Marmet ; list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet To: list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Thomas.. You are right, of course. As this tread progressed, the word Ad was used and I did not bother to verify the exact wording of the list policy but was only referring to previous email. The spirit of the policy is that advertisements are permitted as long as the subject line clearly states so. Best Wishes to all on this great day for Iraqis Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb To: meteoriteshow Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Frederic, Randy and others, General List Policy # 9 states: If you are posting a URL for a Sale, include 'SALE' in the subject box. This was established by Art Jones. I don't see how discussion on the list can change or modify this to read AD, or the need for AD when SALE works just as well. My best, Thomasmeteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I did not know about the word "AD" to be added in the subject line and will do it from now on, when I indicate to the List that we have new items for sale on our web site. Sorry for my recent "AD", which wasn't indicated so. Kind regards. Frederic Beroudwww.meteoriteshow.comIMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Chirsian and all: The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the subject line so that list members would be clear that the email contained an ad. I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in particular would say "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 days", etc etc. You get the idea. Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this list which is a much much bigger problem than theoccasional ebay ad announcement. As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they wish to open an "AD" email. Randy From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100 Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER
Re: [meteorite-list] Roach Dry Lake
In a message dated 12/14/2003 10:50:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rob, be a shame if enough of your meteorite hunting reject piles don'tsurvive long enough to keep future archaeologists on their toes."Astronomical alignments among the stone cairns of Roach Dry Lake." "Aceremonial cairn complex at Roach Dry Lake." RoachHinge GeoZay
[meteorite-list] ebay ads
Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule.
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Dear List; I agree with Jim! The delete button is what one needs to figure out, Eye to Brain to Finger to Delete button. Fragmenting meteorites to this list, that list,all over the place due to lack of using a delete key fingerand being upset with modern business practicesEGEBAY...is just sour grapes, get a life! I welcome ebay adds to the list most of the time and refuse to shop to a dozen different places to see adds...Hell, I can still find ebay.com and bypass a bunch of lists if that was the direction needed. Old timers should rest prehistoric views. Thanks Jim, Dave Freeman eBay user ID mjwy with non meteorite auctions running. Jim Strope wrote: There is NO list policy banning the announcement of ebay auctions on this list. It was agreed some time ago that the word ad should appear in the subject line so that list members not wanting to read advertisements did not have to even open the email. Check the list policies and you see that I am correct. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Just because some list members HATE ebay does not mean they have the power to ban ebay ads. They should direct their efforts to more important list problems such as vulgarity and flame wars. So post away Michel. I would love to know when your ebay ads appear. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michel Franco mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Peter Marmet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD:Burnwell HH chondrite
Hi all, If anyone would like a small micro of the rare Burnwell HH4 (yes, HH) chondrite that fell September 4, 1990 in Burnwell, KY I have one for sale. It measures 2mm x 1mm and comes with a plastic jewel case. It looks surprisingly nice at 10x and 30x in a stereomicroscope with a fresh black and white crystal-like matrix in which is embedded a white chondrule that takes up about 1/3 of the specimen. How about $25 for this or best offer and I'll pay shipping. Thanks, Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD vs. SALE or AD SALE
Perhaps this can be of some use. Rather than dealing with how to moderate the list, this relates to the actual mechanics of whatever marketing is permitted by the moderator's rules in effect: Assuming the restrictions or lack of them relating to selling, as applicable, it would be helpful to distinguish between SALE and AD in the title. SALE: Items being commercialized at seller determined preferential prices or exclusively (at first) to the list. AD: Items being commercialized in general where listmembers don't have an edge, especially Ads on eBay, a commercial website, etc. (except a commercial website with a real sale exclusive to the list members). This way, the benefit goes two ways for those dealing with sales, which theoretically benefits the the whole list. And ads are easy to sift through as some prefer. A little give and take on both sides could be a healthy business practice that might remove some rusty feelings? thoughts? Saludos Doug Dawn Mexico
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group
Dear all, Just to make the thing progress a bit, Would any of the Ten Group tell us if they saw a significative change in their auctions since they did not AD on the Met List ? I feel happy to comply with any rules, when it is clear and official. Perhaps Art can help us to sort out this tread. Best regards From Chamonix ( no snow so far) Michel FRANCO - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michel Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Dear List; I agree with Jim! The delete button is what one needs to figure out, Eye to Brain to Finger to Delete button. Fragmenting meteorites to this list, that list,all over the place due to lack of using a delete key fingerand being upset with modern business practicesEGEBAY...is just sour grapes, get a life! I welcome ebay adds to the list most of the time and refuse to shop to a dozen different places to see adds...Hell, I can still find ebay.com and bypass a bunch of lists if that was the direction needed. Old timers should rest prehistoric views. Thanks Jim, Dave Freeman eBay user ID mjwy with non meteorite auctions running. Jim Strope wrote: There is NO list policy banning the announcement of ebay auctions on this list. It was agreed some time ago that the word ad should appear in the subject line so that list members not wanting to read advertisements did not have to even open the email. Check the list policies and you see that I am correct. http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Just because some list members HATE ebay does not mean they have the power to ban ebay ads. They should direct their efforts to more important list problems such as vulgarity and flame wars. So post away Michel. I would love to know when your ebay ads appear. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michel Franco mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Peter Marmet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Sorry Chtristian and Peter, I did not read the message related to Ebay. I was very pissed off by many non meteorite related messages that I almost stop reading all. I understand that there should not be any annoucement of Ebay Sales on this list. Just 2 questions: Is it in the list policy ? STeve is probably right. Some times ago I understood that we shoud clearly write ADD ebay on the object so anyone can automatically skip off the messages with the Outlook ( or other ) t messages tools Where should I send my ebay sales adds ? Personnaly I don't care send messages to other lists. Sorry again. BTW I have 23 auctions ending in a couple of hours ! Best regards Michel. - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve schoner's attempt for a new group Christian Anger wrote: ...I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea... Hello list, I like to find all ebay and all other AD's on this very list. Somtimes items are sold within a few minutes and I don't like to check the yahoo list every 5 minutes. I made a couple of very good buys thanks to AD's on this list. For some items I was - unfortunately - too late as they were put on the list when it was 3:30AM in Europe :-( (e.g. 5g of Ensisheim). PS.: I think that Meteorite AD's are much more meteorite related than a lot of other contributions that have recently reached this list! Peter Marmet, Bern __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group
Hi Jim, Thanks for posting the URL to the General List Policies. Maybe all who are concerned will take this opportunity to re-read them and realize that Art has already taken care of the situation and that we don't need any new wording or modification. My best, Thomas Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas.. You are right, of course. As this tread progressed, the word Ad was used and I did not bother to verify the exact wording of the list policy but was only referring to previous email. The spirit of the policy is that advertisements are permitted as long as the subject line clearly states so. Best Wishes to all on this great day for Iraqis Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Webb To: meteoriteshow Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Frederic, Randy and others, General List Policy # 9 states: If you are posting a URL for a Sale, include 'SALE' in the subject box. This was established by Art Jones. I don't see how discussion on the list can change or modify this to read AD, or the need for AD when SALE works just as well. My best, Thomasmeteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I did not know about the word "AD" to be added in the subject line and will do it from now on, when I indicate to the List that we have new items for sale on our web site. Sorry for my recent "AD", which wasn't indicated so. Kind regards. Frederic Beroudwww.meteoriteshow.comIMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:46 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Chirsian and all: The list policy is already clear. Policy#8 states - "Do not post - major advertisement- emails to the list - use a 'sale' link". This policy was later ammended on the list to require the word "AD" in the subject line so that list members would be clear that the email contained an ad. I think the problem arrose when some list members posted their ebay auctions daily, spamming the list. For example one member in particular would say "I have ebay auctions ending in 7 days" then "I have ebay auctions ending in 6 days", then "I have ebay auctions ending in 5 days", etc etc. You get the idea. Members won't even quit fighting and using vulgar language on this list which is a much much bigger problem than theoccasional ebay ad announcement. As long as the word "AD" appears in the subject, I do not see a problem as this allows all list members to decide for themselves if they wish to open an "AD" email. Randy From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay listings, steve choner's attempt for a new group Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:33:17 +0100 Hi list, Hi Steve ! I think the idea to keep ebay announcements off this list has died. Still many members like Michel Franco (sorry Michel but you are just only ONE example for what I want to say becuase you recently did it) have not accepted Steve's idea. So I don't know why I (or the others) should not make any announcements for my (or their) ebay auctions in future again. Nobody cared about except very few members like Mike Farmer, Dean Bessey, Matteo Chinellato, Phillipe Thomas, Me and two or three others, I THINK WE DID NOT REACH A NUMBER OF 10 OF MEMBERS who accepted this and now these members have a disadvantage as they did not post to the list since the ebay-group Steve created exists!! So I don't want to be one of these two who accepts the disadvantage of not posting ebay announcements to the REAL meteorite-list as long as others ignore not posting ebay announcements. We (all the members of this list) should find a solution. To decide if announcements for ebay auctions are possible for ALL or NOT. Maybe somebody has a solution for making a poll to let the members decide. Art Jones, a question to you as first man of the list : Is it possible to make a poll in this subject ? I saw on different yahoo-lists that there are polls possible but I am not aware how to make this here. Could you find a soultion ? I suggest a solution is asked, otherwise everybody makes what he wants. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone cairns on dry lakes
A quick correction to my own mistake before someone else points it out. I came into possession of the letter three or four years ago...it wasn't written then. Best, John At 01:33 PM 12/14/03 -0700, John Gwilliam wrote: Three or four years ago, a letter written by H.H. Nininger himself told the story about the recovery of the Clover Springs, Arizona mesosiderite. In the letter, he stated that the original finder, a cowboy from Strawberry and Camp Verde, had marked the location with a rock cairn. During our trips to the area to hunt form more of the meteorite; Dave Andrews, John Blennert and I must have found thirty or more cairns. Although we didn't find any more of the meteorite, it was always exciting to walk through the forest and come upon one of these stone monuments. Maybe we'll get luck next time. Best, John At 11:43 PM 12/13/03 -0800, Matson, Robert wrote: Hi Charlie and List, I wonder, if in some far distant future, an archaeologist will write a thesis on The stone cairns of Roach and other dry lakes of the Far West: towards a solution. :-) You're on to me! While I admit to a certain altruism for helping my fellow meteorite hunters by piling up all the offending rocks, my subconscious plan all along has been to build a sort of Kilroy was here legacy with all these cairns. Hard not to be motivated to leave some lasting calling card when you find so many Native American artifacts while searching for meteorites. Unfortunately, Mother Nature does not share my enthusiasm for tagging: it is amazing how quickly these cairns get scattered by water and wind. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer
I think it's sickening that people buy from this person just to complain. Any damn fool can see from his adds that this stuff isn't meteoric. Seems like there's more Matteo types out there than I ever suspected. Just plain hateful. Bill Kieskowski Well well.but probably it has not learned the lesson inasmuch as it continues to put in sale this fakes http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=golfyxinclud e=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=golfyx regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer ARE LONG OVER DUE!!!!!!!!!!!1
Dear Bill; Can YOU think of an easier way to shut down the fraudulent SO(?)? I am listening for your GOOD idea! Our friends and regulators at eBay choose not to do anything to police their auctions for fraud . Seems to me to waste my browsing time to have stuff like that on the net to begin with. Case you didn't know it is some teenager in Utah, with too much time on his hands that is looking for some other easier felony to commit following misdimenior interstate computer and US mail fraud. Maybe it could be in your neighborhood next, got credit cards? I hear after he gets your address that he makes a list for a vacation to go car shopping. It's the in thing for junior swindlers from the Utah gangs Dave Freeman, proud owner of a genuine Galaxie crap-level handicraft not nor ever related to meteorites! Yardsale trash! It May show up in Tucson! Best, Dave Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's sickening that people buy from this person just to complain. Any damn fool can see from his adds that this stuff isn't meteoric. Seems like there's more Matteo types out there than I ever suspected. Just plain hateful. Bill Kieskowski Well well.but probably it has not learned the lesson inasmuch as it continues to put in sale this fakes http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=golfyxinclud e=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=golfyx regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer
David, I live a few miles from Park Forest. How could I help but be inspired by that event? I'm here to learn and I've learned a lot in these few months. I also learned a lot in my previous life. My life before meteorites. Maybe I'm too new to realize there is such a thing. Bill Just wondering Bill, why are you on this list? df [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's sickening that people buy from this person just to complain. Any damn fool can see from his adds that this stuff isn't meteoric. Seems like there's more Matteo types out there than I ever suspected. Just plain hateful. Bill Kieskowski Well well.but probably it has not learned the lesson inasmuch as it continues to put in sale this fakes http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=golfyxincl ud e=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=golfyx regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer
Bill, I think you have it backwards. You defend someone who sells fake meteorites in the Meteorite Section of ebay. Then you attempt to label anyone who tries to educate or help others. Even going to the point of belittling the Hupes' meteorite accounts. It appears form my perspective that the " just plain hateful" one is sitting at your computer terminal. I truly hope I am wrong. ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's sickening that people buy from this person just to complain. Any damn fool can see from his adds that this stuff isn't meteoric. Seems like there's more Matteo types out there than I ever suspected. Just plain hateful. Bill Kieskowski > Well well.but probably it has not learned the > lesson inasmuch as it continues to put in sale > this fakes > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=golfyxinclud > e=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 > > http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=golfyx > > regards > > Matteo > > > = > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: > http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 > MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cooking with Meteorites, Tiz the season!
Dear Sick Meteorite Friends, We have lots of flu going around and the weather is rather, well, Christmas-y I have my favorite colds and flu season Chicken soup recipe with meteorite as the secret ingredient for your dining and healthful pleasure. Start with a half pound of carrots clean and slice, throw in pot Chop 1/2 large onion.. throw in pot chop 1/2 cup celeryyou guessed it. any other vegetables, left overs..follow above trend. Throw in a couple pounds of deboned chicken thighs, and let the pot cook for an hour, so the carrots cook good, lots of pepper, little salt, celery seed, garlic powder, a little red pepper, make it hot. Cook slowly for a while. When you get tired of waiting, throw in some whole-wheat egg noodles and start the count down. when noodles are just about done, now's the time to throw in an appropriate amount of Dean's Bessy's little secret spice particles from your favorite desert. Chow down! The garlic and onion have allicin in them, a natural antibiotic that doesn't remove good bacteria that synthetic antibiotics do. The chicken has it's special health attributes as well. Hope you all are not sick but if you arethe soup is good and the meteorites add that festive holiday touch. May be accompanied by my grandmothers favorite onion sandwich for a double whammy on the colds and flu. Get well soon! Dave F. (not proud Tom's cook either) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First negative feedbacks to the Galaxy dealer
I expressed what I consider honest opinions. I'm not going to be baited into an arguement that can only create hard feelings and go nowhere. If you want endless stupidity, talk to Matteo. I respect the Hupes. I'm sorry if I don't express myself in a groveling way. Best regards, Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay ads
Bob and List, Thank you for asking. I like the sales ads. I like the ebay ads. I like crooks being outed. I like hearing from hunters, snarly or not. I like the science discussions. I like Proud Tom. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule.
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay ads
John List, MY vote: Well said John. Concise and to the point! The adds, eBay and otherwise,DO relate to our subject. But there's a miserable bunch of spam that doesn't, and I hate to admit that this email from me is closer to the latter than to the former. Sorry. The problem with the separate Yahoo eBay list is that most of us have inboxes overflowing with garbage (and the meteorite list, junk and all, is some of theGOOD stuff). But I'm not shopping for another site to visit to get the rest of the story; instead, I need a way to simplify the inbox. As for eBay, I go straight to eBay and look at the "closing today" category. (As a result, I miss some "Buy Now" opportunities. I only hear about them on the list). Further, some of us old dogs aren't even looking for new tricks. We feel pretty proud just doing the things we know. I've learned my way around this list, website management, eBay, and even feel like I know some of you that I've neveryet met! I've got no problem with the concept of the eBay list, but I haven't even seriously considered going there. If I represent any significant sector of this readership, THAT may be a problem. Here's my idea: Let's keep the eBay METEORITE announcements here, and all the METEORITE adds, and send the female dog, whine, and personal attack sessions that have no METEORITE info, availability, questions, stories, cautions, etc., to some other location ( I wouldn't even need to know the location--).THAT would simplify my inbox! This list is part of my life. I'm not whiningjust voting. Merry Winter Solstice and a Happy New Orbit to All! Norm (http://TektiteSource.com) - Original Message - From: mary kashuba To: Comcast Mail ; Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Bob and List, Thank you for asking. I like the sales ads. I like the ebay ads. I like crooks being outed. I like hearing from hunters, snarly or not. I like the science discussions. I like Proud Tom. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule.
[meteorite-list] Unwanted posts on the list
Hi John all, I am CONTINUALLY amazed! Just flabbergasted that otherwise intelligent people INSIST on reading postings on threads they dislike! THEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM! I mean REALLY! How kinky can you get? There IS a delet button on every computer I ever saw AND you can just not open the damned things! Did this ever occur to the seeming throngs of discontented list members I don't like LOTS of the stuff on this list. but I just don't read it! OR, I read it to enjoy not liking it! See, there are these little Subject lines that tell you what the post is about. That is how it works. YOU get to decide You don't like ads? DON'T OPEN THEM. You don't like Proud Tom - or don't like what everyone else has to say about Proud Tom - DON'T READ ABOUT HIM. JEEZ! Folks, figure it out, already! Just a friendly reminder from Michael on 12/14/03 5:27 PM, mary kashuba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob and List, Thank you for asking. I like the sales ads. I like the ebay ads. I like crooks being outed. I like hearing from hunters, snarly or not. I like the science discussions. I like Proud Tom. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule. Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Evidence Mounts of Earlier Asteroid Annihilation
http://www.dallasnews.com/texasliving/stories/121503dnlivextinction.1673c.html Evidence mounts of earlier asteroid annihilation Meteorite fragments, metal from Antarctica may boost theory By ALEXANDRA WITZE The Dallas Morning News December 14, 2003 SAN FRANCISCO - Scientists have come up with new evidence that a giant space rock slammed into Earth and killed off most of its species not once in history, but twice. Schoolchildren can relate the story of how the dinosaurs and many other creatures went extinct after an asteroid or comet hit the Earth 65 million years ago. But an even greater die-off occurred 250 million years ago in which as many as 90 percent of all species on Earth were snuffed out. In 2001, a group of researchers made headlines when they argued that this extinction, too, took place when a comet or asteroid smashed into the Earth. Now, the scientists have reported new proof of a cosmic collision - tiny fragments, unearthed in Antarctica, of what they say is the killer rock itself. If confirmed, the finding wouldn't be just the smoking gun linking the mass extinction to an extraterrestrial impact; it would be the bullet itself. The new work, reported last month in Science and elaborated upon last week at an American Geophysical Union meeting, hasn't met with universal acceptance. Other scientists say it's hard to imagine how pieces of a space rock could survive for 250 million years, rather than weathering away as meteorites often do. It's mind-boggling to think that they could have survived 250 million years in those sediments, says Frank Kyte, a geochemist at the University of California, Los Angeles. In 1998, Dr. Kyte reported finding a piece of the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs in a core drilled from the bottom of the North Pacific Ocean. Over time, he has convinced most other specialists that the fragment is, indeed, a chunk of the doomsday rock. Something similar may have just been found in 250 million-year-old rocks from Graphite Peak, Antarctica. Gregory Retallack, a geologist at the University of Oregon, collected the rocks in the early 1990s, looking at the geologic record preserving the boundary between the Permian and Triassic geologic periods. Soon after, Dr. Retallack reported finding quartz grains in those rocks that had been marked by the shock of an extraterrestrial impact. He proposed that a collision had taken place 250 million years ago, but he never convinced many other researchers that he was right. Things changed in 2001, when a team led by Luann Becker, now at the University of California, Santa Barbara, reported finding molecules called buckyballs in 250-million-year-old rocks from Meishan, China. The soccer-ball-shaped buckyballs contained extraterrestrial gases, Dr. Becker's team argued, which suggested that an impact had occurred. Since then, Dr. Becker's team has gathered more evidence to support the impact theory. The recent Science paper describes the discovery of about 40 meteorite fragments from the same Antarctic rocks studied by Dr. Retallack. Chemical studies of the fragments show them to belong to the family of meteorites called chondrites, says Asish Basu, a geochemist at the University of Rochester and lead author on the paper. The scientists also say that blobs of metal found in the rock may have been formed by an extraterrestrial impact. Other researchers have argued that similar blobs found in the Chinese rocks may have condensed out of the vapor of an impact cloud. Finally, at the San Francisco meeting last week, his team introduced a third line of evidence - small glassy drops that also could have been produced during the searing heat of impact. But David Kring, an impact expert at the University of Arizona, says that all three lines of evidence can be explained without invoking an extraterrestrial impact. For instance, the meteorite fragments could have been a sprinkle of small meteorites like those that regularly bombard the planet, a possibility that Dr. Basu says he has ruled out. Why would they be concentrated right where Retallack found shocked quartz? he adds. Perhaps the biggest question is how the meteorite fragments managed to preserve so well over 250 million years.But the Antarctic rocks contain layers of clay that could have encapsulated and preserved the meteorite bits, argues Dr. Basu. There are special geologic circumstances in which they could survive, he says. So far, the team has found no hint of iridium, a relatively rare element that appears in extraterrestrial rocks. Finding a worldwide layer of iridium helped clinch the impact hypothesis for the dinosaur extinction. But the space rock may have been low in iridium, or geologic forces may have churned up the Antarctic rocks enough to dilute the iridium signal, Dr. Basu says. The questions may be resolved relatively soon. Dr. Retallack is in Antarctica now, collecting more
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Illinois field report
Well folks, It was pretty chilly in PK today so I wore my chainmail underwear under my kevlar armour. My riot helmet is specially equipped to keep out stupid things, police calls, boom box music, complaining locals and such. As I lumbered around in all that gear I wanted a breath of fresh air but an instant before I made the mistake of opening my helmet I took a few rounds of sniper fire. Only a flesh wound so I pressed on. Lo and behold! There in the middle of a pothole in the Burger King lot was a 67 gram specimen!! It seems that grease from their grease recycling dumpster covered it right after the fall. No weathering etc. How the heck to I remove the grease? Is this rock permanently and utterly ruined? Oops, I revealed the location of the find prior to a more thorough investigation...darn. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unwanted posts on the list
Jeeez Big Mike! You must've gotten a post from John that I missed. No bitching. No whining, in fact, a breath of fresh air. Did I miss something? Seriously. It happens. There are a bunch of other posts that your response fits, but not John's! (At least the post I have seen that is attached) Norm (Sucked into a dumb exchange not involving Meteorites. So sorry. P.S., show me any computer on earth with a delet (sic) button, kinky or otherwise! ) - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mary kashuba [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Unwanted posts on the list Hi John all, I am CONTINUALLY amazed! Just flabbergasted that otherwise intelligent people INSIST on reading postings on threads they dislike! THEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM! I mean REALLY! How kinky can you get? There IS a delet button on every computer I ever saw AND you can just not open the damned things! Did this ever occur to the seeming throngs of discontented list members I don't like LOTS of the stuff on this list. but I just don't read it! OR, I read it to enjoy not liking it! See, there are these little Subject lines that tell you what the post is about. That is how it works. YOU get to decide You don't like ads? DON'T OPEN THEM. You don't like Proud Tom - or don't like what everyone else has to say about Proud Tom - DON'T READ ABOUT HIM. JEEZ! Folks, figure it out, already! Just a friendly reminder from Michael on 12/14/03 5:27 PM, mary kashuba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob and List, Thank you for asking. I like the sales ads. I like the ebay ads. I like crooks being outed. I like hearing from hunters, snarly or not. I like the science discussions. I like Proud Tom. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule. Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Illinois field report
Go to your local Home Depot. In the paint section, they carry a variety of solvents. See if they carry a product called Stone Meteorite Degreaser. I can't tell you the brand name, but the folks at Home Depot might be able to help you. John At 04:32 AM 12/15/03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well folks, It was pretty chilly in PK today so I wore my chainmail underwear under my kevlar armour. My riot helmet is specially equipped to keep out stupid things, police calls, boom box music, complaining locals and such. As I lumbered around in all that gear I wanted a breath of fresh air but an instant before I made the mistake of opening my helmet I took a few rounds of sniper fire. Only a flesh wound so I pressed on. Lo and behold! There in the middle of a pothole in the Burger King lot was a 67 gram specimen!! It seems that grease from their grease recycling dumpster covered it right after the fall. No weathering etc. How the heck to I remove the grease? Is this rock permanently and utterly ruined? Oops, I revealed the location of the find prior to a more thorough investigation...darn. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Illinois field report
It's a new find but since I already spilled the beans, here's my picture. Bill Kieskowski Is this a joke ( the find ) ? or real? Have any pics? Bob - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Illinois field report Well folks, It was pretty chilly in PK today so I wore my chainmail underwear under my kevlar armour. My riot helmet is specially equipped to keep out stupid things, police calls, boom box music, complaining locals and such. As I lumbered around in all that gear I wanted a breath of fresh air but an instant before I made the mistake of opening my helmet I took a few rounds of sniper fire. Only a flesh wound so I pressed on. Lo and behold! There in the middle of a pothole in the Burger King lot was a 67 gram specimen!! It seems that grease from their grease recycling dumpster covered it right after the fall. No weathering etc. How the heck to I remove the grease? Is this rock permanently and utterly ruined? Oops, I revealed the location of the find prior to a more thorough investigation...darn. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list pkrock.jpg
[meteorite-list] Unwanted posts on the list
Hi Norm, OK, so, I can't spell. This is NOT news to anyone on the list longer than my current email program (which does have spell correct, unlike my original email program. My posts in that system had convinced everyone I was STUPIDER than I are). I have spelling dysperexia - so there. Can you match that? All in fun and nothing to get concerned about. As for my post, I was responding to the theme, not the most recent author. Best wishes, Michael on 12/14/03 8:35 PM, N Lehrman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeeez Big Mike! You must've gotten a post from John that I missed. No bitching. No whining, in fact, a breath of fresh air. Did I miss something? Seriously. It happens. There are a bunch of other posts that your response fits, but not John's! (At least the post I have seen that is attached) Norm (Sucked into a dumb exchange not involving Meteorites. So sorry. P.S., show me any computer on earth with a delet (sic) button, kinky or otherwise! ) - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mary kashuba [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Unwanted posts on the list Hi John all, I am CONTINUALLY amazed! Just flabbergasted that otherwise intelligent people INSIST on reading postings on threads they dislike! THEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM! I mean REALLY! How kinky can you get? There IS a delet button on every computer I ever saw AND you can just not open the damned things! Did this ever occur to the seeming throngs of discontented list members I don't like LOTS of the stuff on this list. but I just don't read it! OR, I read it to enjoy not liking it! See, there are these little Subject lines that tell you what the post is about. That is how it works. YOU get to decide You don't like ads? DON'T OPEN THEM. You don't like Proud Tom - or don't like what everyone else has to say about Proud Tom - DON'T READ ABOUT HIM. JEEZ! Folks, figure it out, already! Just a friendly reminder from Michael on 12/14/03 5:27 PM, mary kashuba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob and List, Thank you for asking. I like the sales ads. I like the ebay ads. I like crooks being outed. I like hearing from hunters, snarly or not. I like the science discussions. I like Proud Tom. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail To: Meteorite list Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay ads Does anyone else think that the debate over technicalities are more annoying than the actual ebay ad posts themselves? Just curious Or lets take a vote How many appreciate the sales ads? How many are against it? Anyone with time to waste please keep track of tallying the votes, and let majority rule. Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock:
