[meteorite-list] Munich show - hotels
Hi Unfortunatelly all rooms in Ibis Muenchen Messe is full. Sic ! So maybe someone can send info about any other good, cheap places to sleep :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Small slices of Acapulcoite
I have only a few small slices left of a new Acapulcoite from NWA. If interested, please email me. You will like the price! http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/for_sale/nwa2871_4-7.jpg Thanks! -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bowie Knife from Meteorite?
Dear List: A friend from Belgium just emailed this question: The Bowie Knife by Jim Bowie was forged from a nickel-iron meteorite by a Swedish blacksmith. Does anyone know if this is true? Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE:[meteorite-list] Bowie Knife from Meteorite?
The meteorite content is apocryphal. Most knives were sheffield steel at that time. Here's a good synopsis of the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie_knife __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Do you want a rare and important Metachondrite ?
Go here http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Article describing meteorite fall in Jamaica in the year 1700
Dear list, After my recent request for information regarding a possible meteorite fall in 1862, I found one report which apparently has not been collected elsewhere. Source: Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society XXX, No. 357, July-September 1718, pp. 837-838. Article: A letter of the curious naturalist Mr. Henry Barham, R. S. S., to the publisher, giving a relation of a fiery meteor seen by him, in Jamaica, to strike the Earth... Barham describes his observation of a falling fireball in the year 1700, about three miles north-west from St. Fago de la Vega. He approaches a group of people south of the savanna who are admiring the recently broken ground where they have seen a fireball come down. Several deep holes, smell of sulphur, etc. I just thought someone might be interested. Best, Chris __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New meteorite blog, Meteorite Hunters
I came across this during my research. Check it out. http://www.meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 23, 2005
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Looking over Tennessee Valley - sol 606-613, Sept 23, 2005: Spirit completed a campaign of using the tools on its robotic arm to examine the feature Cliffhanger. Spirit scuffed the soil using its wheels in the area around Cliffhanger, and then observed both the scuffed and undisturbed soil. In addition, Spirit imaged the moons Phobos and Deimos at night. Spirit also acquired part one of a stereo panorama. Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 606 (Sept. 16, 2005): Spirit performed untargeted remote sensing and took images overnight of Phobos and Deimos. Sol 607: Spirit performed remote sensing and used the microscopic imager, alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, and Moessbauer spectrometer on the scuff feature of Cliffhanger. Sol 608: Spirit began a long Moessbauer spectrometer campaign on the exterior of Cliffhanger. Sol 609: Spirit continued the Moessbauer spectrometer campaign. Sol 610: Spirit once again continued the Moessbauer spectrometer campaign. The rover also proceeded with a panorama of Tennessee Valley. Sol 611: Spirit used the Moessbauer spectrometer in the interior of Cliffhanger. Spirit then used the microscopic imager and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on the exterior of Cliffhanger. Spirit also took overnight images of the moons. Sols 612 and 613: Spirit is on a two-sol plan, consisting of microscopic imager work and a 2.5-hour drive toward Hillary to obtain a better look over Tennessee Valley. This new drive position will set up Spirit for the second position to create the stereo panorama. Plans for sol 613 call for Spirit to perform untargeted remote sensing. As of the end of sol 613, (Sept. 23, 2005), Spirit has driven 4,949 meters (3.08 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor Shower Scares Villagers in India
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEA20050926000547 Meteor shower scares villagers out of their wits newindpress.com September 26, 2005 KARIMNAGAR: The people of Palugulu of Mahadevapur on the banks of the Godavari in Karimnagar district are a petrified lot after they witnessed a meteorite falling close to their village with big flash of light and a bang. Astonishingly, as many as 10 persons lost consciousness on watching the meteorite falling. According to the eyewitnesses, it fortunately landed in the river. But the villagers, not knowing the exact location of strike, remained awake whole night. The villages in the radius of about 60 km witnessed the heavenly body falling. Mahadevapur MRO Kesava Reddy visited the spot and could not spot any tell tale marks there. Then he concluded that the meteorite might have fallen in the river. He allayed their fears by explaining about meteors. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ESA Selects Targets for Asteroid-Deflecting Mission Don Quijote
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/Pr_41_2005_p_EN.html N° 41-2005: ESA selects targets for asteroid-deflecting mission Don Quijote European Space Agency 26 September 2005 Based on the recommendations of asteroid experts, ESA has selected two target asteroids for its Near-Earth Object deflecting mission, Don Quijote. Don Quijote is an asteroid-deflecting mission currently under study by ESA's Advanced Concepts Team (ACT). Earlier this year the NEO Mission Advisory Panel (NEOMAP), consisting of well-known experts in the field, delivered to ESA a target selection report for Europe's future asteroid mitigation missions, identifying the relevant criteria for selecting a target and picking up two objects that meet most of those criteria. The asteroids' temporary designations are 2002 AT4 and 1989 ML. With this input and the support of ESA's Concurrent Design Facility (CDF) experts, the Advanced Concepts Team has now completed an extensive assessment of suitable mission architectures, launch strategies, propulsion system options and experiments. The current scenario envisages two spacecraft in separate interplanetary trajectories. One spacecraft (Hidalgo) will impact an asteroid, the other (Sancho) will arrive earlier at the target asteroid, rendezvous and orbit the asteroid for several months, observing it before and after the impact to detect any changes in its orbit. Industrial studies are now about to start; it will be down to European experts to propose alternative solutions for the design of the low-cost NEO precursor mission. This will be the first step towards the development of a means to tackle asteroid impacts - one of the few natural disasters that our technology can prevent. A near miss? While the eyes of the world were on the Asian tsunami last Christmas, one group of scientists were watching uneasily for another potential natural disaster - the threat of an asteroid impact. On 19 December 2004 MN4, an asteroid of about 400 m, lost since its discovery six months earlier, was observed again and its orbit was computed. It immediately became clear that the chances that it could hit the Earth during a close encounter in 2029 were unusually high. As the days passed the probability did not decrease and the asteroid became notorious for surpassing all previous records in the Torino and Palermo impact risk scales - scales that measure the risk of an asteroid impact just as the Richter scale quantifies the size of an earthquake. Only after earlier observations of the object were found and a more accurate trajectory was computed did it become clear that it would not impact the Earth - at least not in 2029. Impacts on later dates, though unlikely, have not been totally ruled out. It is extremely difficult to tell what will happen unless we come up with a better way to track this or other NEOs and if necessary take steps to tackle them. Most world experts agree that this capability is now within our reach. A mission like ESA's Don Quijote could provide a means to assess a threatening NEO and take concrete steps to deflect it away from the Earth. But every good performance needs rehearsing and in order to be ready for such a threat, we should try our hardware on a harmless asteroid first. Don Quijote would be the first mission to make such an attempt. The big question was: which asteroid and what should it be like? Looking for the perfect target The NEO population contains a confusing variety of objects, and deciding which physical parameters are most relevant for mitigation considerations is no trivial task. But the NEOMAP experts took on the challenge and in February 2005 provided ESA with their recommendations on the asteroid selection criteria for ESA's deflection rehearsal. People might wonder whether performing a deflection test, such as that planned for Don Quijote, represents any risk to our planet. What if things go wrong? Could we create a problem, rather than learn how to avoid one? Experts world-wide say the answer is no. Even a very dramatic impact of a heavy spacecraft on a small asteroid would only result in a minuscule modification of the object's orbit. In fact the change would be so small that the Don Quijote mission requires two spacecraft - one to monitor the impact of the other. The second spacecraft measures the subtle variation of the object's orbital parameters that would not be noticeable from Earth. Target objects can also be selected so that all possible concerns are avoided altogether, by looking into the way the distance between the asteroid's and the Earth's orbits changes with time. If the target asteroid is not an Earth crosser, as is the case with NEOs in the Amor class (which have orbits with perihelion distance well in excess of 1 AU), testing a deflection manoeuvre represents no risk to the Earth. Other considerations related to the orbit of the target asteroid are also important, especially the change of orbital velocity that is required by the spacecraft to
OT Re: [meteorite-list] : Munich show - hotels
Hi Marcy, list this year the day before the Mineralientage the Systems is ending, a larger IT-fair and parallely to the mineral show there will be a cosmetics fair, so better book as early as possible. There are two possibilities for accomodation: The village Feldkirchen ,closely situated to the fair ground (accessible by bus), where also the Friday evening beer place is, or in the city center around the Central Station, Karlsplatz, Marienplatz, where many cheap hotels and pensions are to be found for those, who will be fed up with the old ugly stones to do some sight seeing and shopping, the tube is going from there directly to the fair (and on Friday evening a suburban train back from Feldkirchen). In general everything around 50Euro or below for a room (note that some charge per person, some by room) with breakfast is cheap for Munich. Let's see. Marcinhho, in the vicinity of your beloved IBIS, there is a Holiday Inn, last year they had some specials at the fair's season below 50Euro. Hmm, but this year not (twin room 59,50 per person, triple 40 per nose). Hyenas they are in that hicksville, living only from the fairs - all other hotels I checked in Feldkirchen 80-120Euro per room. So back to town: Last year I heard some were staying at the hotel Senefelder: http://www.hotel-senefelder.de/index.html Others at he Creatif Hotel Elephant (I guess each elephant would be more creative in finding a better name): http://www.munich-hotels.com/ A voilá, here I found last time the cheapest accomodations in the very city center: http://www.munich-info.de/hotels/lists/zentrum_de.html Sorry it's only in German, search for your own (I'm very buzy), if you have any problems, feel free to contact me. But I'm at home only tomorrow, Friday, Saturday and then gone for 3 weeks - I'm sure, that somebody else, who is German-speaking from the list will assist you too (Svend? Ingo? Hulk starrockers? Hanno? Christian? Alex?) Click on Hotels (= hotels) and Pensionen (pensions). About the quality of the individual places, I don't know nothing, as I'm not wealthy enough to lodge in fancy places of my hometown. Last year I found a pension in last minute, which hadn't even one star, but was o.k. - clean, room with bathtoilet, tv, breakfast buffet - 50Euro. (Ask Razvan, I don't want to tell it here, as he wants to stay there again, but hasn't reserved his room yet). And again, for those, who are coming by plane, don't take a cab to the city center, it's a huge rip-off and will cost more than 50Euro. Take the suburbian (8 stripes from the blue ticket with stripes ~ 8Euro). Much success! Martin PS: Here a preliminary list, who will join the Friday evening (let me know, wheter you'll join too ASAP): Will be there: Serge Afanasjev(cometshop http://www.meteorites21.com/ ) + 1 hunter + 1 hunter Martin Altmann (Buckleboo) Razvan Andrei(oneonly Romanian collector) + wife Christian Anger ( http://www.austromet.com ) Uwe Arendt (German collector) +1 person +1 person Matthias Bärmann(German collector) Dean's Mom's Son (Dean Bessey) Dean's Mom Svend Buhl(www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/ ) Morten Bilet(Norwegian coll.) Bruno (http://www.meteorite.fr/) Carine Marcin Cimala (www.polandmet.com) Nobbet Classen (IMCA, Lunar freak) Manfred Dannapfel (German coll.) Joshua Eisler( http://www.cosmiccutlery.com ) Mike Farmer( http://www.meteoritehunter.com/ ) Olaf Gabel (Chief Impactor Gabelbart, www.gabelbart.de) Erich Haiderer ( http://www.meteorite.com/Erichs ) Sylvia Andi Hulk Gren (www.meteoritenhaus.de ) Mauro Ianeselli(Italian Coll.) Marc Jost (Twannberg-II-finder) + Madeleine Kachalin(Russian dealer) Norbert Kammel(www.rocksonfire.com) + Heike Moritz Karl ( www.sv-meteorites.com ) +1 +1 +1 +1 Hans Koser (Campo-God) Allan Lang( http://www.nyrockman.com/ ) + wife Peter Marmet ( http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ ) + Begleitung Kasimierz Mazurek (Polish coll.) M.A.Mennes(Dutch coll.) Francesco Moser (Italian coll.) Gregor Pacer (twinstar) Vince Pellerin (French dealer) + Gemahlin Stefan Ralew (http://www.sr-meteorites.de) + Svetlana Harald Stehlik (Austrian coll.) Hanno Strufe (http://www.strufe.net/) Edwin Thompson (the eminence) + sister Sigrid Wengert (German coll.) Most probably there will be too: Carsten Gießler (www.gi-po.de ) + Kornelia Ali Hmani Son (Moroccain dealer) Jachymek (Zaklodzie-finder) Jim Strope ( http://www.catchafallingstar.com ) Giorgio Tomerelli (Italian dealer) Thomas Tuchan (German coll) Überraschungspole (Polish surprise guest) Not knowing yet: Bartoschewitz (http://www.Meteorite-Lab.de) Vassiliev (www.sv-meteorites.com) Haberer ( hunter, http://www.haberer-meteorite.de) Not answering to me, sniff: Jan Bartels (Dutch coll.) Les Carions (French pope with sun) Thomas Dehner ( http://www.tektit.com/ ) Peter Kümmel (German dealer) Ahmed Pani ( http://members.chello.at/panimeteorites/ )
[meteorite-list] Thin sections and link for ebay sellers
Hello Meteorite-list, Short note that added some rare thin sections on finmet ebay store... Did anybody used auction tracker? Might be very interesting for ebay sellers: http://www.sellathon.com/?af=0-439 Best regards, finmet on ebayhttp://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=finmet Best regards, Ivan, finmet mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ESA Selects Targets for Asteroid-Deflecting Mission Don Quijote
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:46:08 -0700 (PDT), Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Quijote is an asteroid-deflecting mission currently under study by ESA's Advanced Concepts Team (ACT). Earlier this year the NEO Mission Soo, they spend millions of dollars (or Euros) and give the craft a name firmly associated with insane and hopeless pursuits? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=quixotic Well, at least Starship Titanic was already taken... __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Auctions
Hello everybody, I've some cool meteorites for sale on ebay for a few days. Price of shipment for foreign countries hasn't been written on the auction : Dar Al Gani 1037 (martian), NWA 1777 (eucrite) and NWA 2624 (ureilite) All these auctions (sorry, in french) : http://search.ebay.fr/_W0QQsassZmoky99QQhtZ-1 Price of shipment is 13 euros worldwide with registered package (combined shipment). I also have a small l'Aigle slice (0.6g) for sale for US$150 including registered mail worldwide. (picture : http://www.meteor-center.com/collection/images/collectionperso/laigle0598g.jpg) Also have a look on my website for many meteorites for sale ! Chondrites : http://www.meteor-center.com/avendre/chondrites.asp Achondrites : http://www.meteor-center.com/avendre/achondrites.asp Stony-iron : http://www.meteor-center.com/avendre/mixtes.asp Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Bowie Knife from Meteorite?
Thank you! Still, it must have been a good knife anyway to make it ino the history books ;-))) Axel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Pringle Verzonden: maandag 26 september 2005 17:00 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: RE:[meteorite-list] Bowie Knife from Meteorite? The meteorite content is apocryphal. Most knives were sheffield steel at that time. Here's a good synopsis of the story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie_knife __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New meteorite blog, Meteorite Hunters
Rephrasing your question I understand you're asking Are you the moderator of this most despicable website... but not to worry. It's not me, my approach to the fields I am exploring is somewhat less trivial. I am also not a meteorite dealer or even a specialist in the material. As far as I know have never even touched a rock from space. In fact I was told of the webpage by a colleague on this list while I was searching for information on the social impact and mythology of meteorite falls. It served its purpose, and now I'm just passing on the message. If you sue the moderator, the book I'm writing will suddenly get much more interesting, so please do as you feel is right. Best, Chris On 9/26/05, moni Waiblinger-Seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, What kind of research are you doing? This is the most despicable web site I ever saw! I wish I could sue the person who put it up! I am sure there are others who feel the same way! I can't believe its starting over. Its funny that you found it the day it started over, isn't it? And then you posted it about the same time. Are you by any chance the moderator? Just wondering, Moni http://meteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2005/09/karimnagar-fall.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] US National Hero.......... Was: Crackpot impact theory
Dear Dirk and list, Thank you for the praise and the attention but I would not say that I was left behind with a meek thank you. There was no financial reward but I was rewarded in a number of ways. Please judge for yourselves: I received a personal gift from Captain John Young, one of the (if not the) most seasoned astronauts who went to the moon TWICE. It hangs proudly on my living room wall. In the frame next to it is a personal letter from the Director of the FBI with an earnest and sincere thank you. Next to that hangs a frame with a Belgian flag that has flown in space by space shuttle Atlantis in 1992. An asteroid has been named after me (#15513 - Emmermann). I had the honor of meeting one of the most prominent NASA researchers and leading authority world-wide in the field of life on Mars twice. Dr. Everett Gibson came to Antwerp and gave a speech before my club (Antwerp Mineralogical Society). That is a moment that I, and all the members of our club, cherish for the rest of our lives. Getting to know this friendly and knowledgeable man is perhaps the greatest reward I could wish for. I think I was well treated by NASA A piece of the moon would have been a nice gesture ;-)) but still I think that things like that belong to the public and should not be possessed by one man. Even the brave men that went up there to collect those lunar samples do not have a specimen (although I believe that legislation has been passed to allow them possession of a moon rock. I'm not sure) Your appreciation means very much to me. About the great stress he suffered in this ordeal. Well, the stress will be greater in 2009 when Roberts gets out of prison. Not that I worry a lot. I don't scare easy but still... it makes you wonder ;-))) Axel can provide to the list more information about the article that he wrote, that did not make the newspapers. It is quite a story of cloak and dagger. Especially when you realize that I didn't have all the facts at the time ;-))) That story is the ony writtenfrom my perspective. The FBI is not eager to share inside information about its investigations and a LOT happened behind the screens. I got some of the puzzle pieces in hindsight and from a friend who was involved in the affair. I 'd rather not divulge things like names or organisations that were indirectly involved in the case. People have lives and a right to privacy but otherwise you're free to ask me anything you want to know. Axel should be considered a US National Hero. Now you make me blush ;-))) I've been called that a few times but believe me, I'm not a hero. Just a guy with enough principles to be civilized. Most of us are... It's just that only a few get the chance to show it. Now to get us back on topic: Back in 2001, one of the newspapers (I think it was the London Times) estimated the value of ALH84001, which was among the stolen samples, to more than 30.000.000 US$. Is that anywhere near realistic? Best regards Axel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: drtanuki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 26 september 2005 2:51 Aan: Axel Emmermann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: RE: [meteorite-list] US National Hero.. Was: Crackpot impact theory Dear Axel and List, As some of you may know, Axel Emmermann was the person responsible for aiding in the recovery of the stolen NASA Lunites and other meteorites stolen by Thad Roberts and gang at the JSC. He was never reward by NASA or the US Government with a piece of the moon or much of anything other than maybe a meek thank you. I want to Thank and Reward Axel, on behalf of the meteorite community and this List, for his many hours of hard work and sweat, not to mention the great stress he suffered in this ordeal. I will donate to him some Lunar material. If anyone else wants to follow up with their Lunar Reward please come forward. Thanks to all and especially Axel. Axel can provide to the list more information about the article that he wrote, that did not make the newspapers. It is quite a story of cloak and dagger. Axel should be considered a US National Hero. Thank you. Best Always in LIFE, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] US National Hero.......... Was: Crackpot impacttheory
Axel, I would like to publicly thank you for what you did. You turned what could have been national tragedy into an international success. thanks from all Americans for helping to protect our national heritage from theft and black market sales. I would like to present you with a piece of the moon to mount on the wall, one that I found myself. Contact me for information. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Axel Emmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] US National Hero.. Was: Crackpot impacttheory Dear Dirk and list, Thank you for the praise and the attention but I would not say that I was left behind with a meek thank you. There was no financial reward but I was rewarded in a number of ways. Please judge for yourselves: I received a personal gift from Captain John Young, one of the (if not the) most seasoned astronauts who went to the moon TWICE. It hangs proudly on my living room wall. In the frame next to it is a personal letter from the Director of the FBI with an earnest and sincere thank you. Next to that hangs a frame with a Belgian flag that has flown in space by space shuttle Atlantis in 1992. An asteroid has been named after me (#15513 - Emmermann). I had the honor of meeting one of the most prominent NASA researchers and leading authority world-wide in the field of life on Mars twice. Dr. Everett Gibson came to Antwerp and gave a speech before my club (Antwerp Mineralogical Society). That is a moment that I, and all the members of our club, cherish for the rest of our lives. Getting to know this friendly and knowledgeable man is perhaps the greatest reward I could wish for. I think I was well treated by NASA A piece of the moon would have been a nice gesture ;-)) but still I think that things like that belong to the public and should not be possessed by one man. Even the brave men that went up there to collect those lunar samples do not have a specimen (although I believe that legislation has been passed to allow them possession of a moon rock. I'm not sure) Your appreciation means very much to me. About the great stress he suffered in this ordeal. Well, the stress will be greater in 2009 when Roberts gets out of prison. Not that I worry a lot. I don't scare easy but still... it makes you wonder ;-))) Axel can provide to the list more information about the article that he wrote, that did not make the newspapers. It is quite a story of cloak and dagger. Especially when you realize that I didn't have all the facts at the time ;-))) That story is the ony writtenfrom my perspective. The FBI is not eager to share inside information about its investigations and a LOT happened behind the screens. I got some of the puzzle pieces in hindsight and from a friend who was involved in the affair. I 'd rather not divulge things like names or organisations that were indirectly involved in the case. People have lives and a right to privacy but otherwise you're free to ask me anything you want to know. Axel should be considered a US National Hero. Now you make me blush ;-))) I've been called that a few times but believe me, I'm not a hero. Just a guy with enough principles to be civilized. Most of us are... It's just that only a few get the chance to show it. Now to get us back on topic: Back in 2001, one of the newspapers (I think it was the London Times) estimated the value of ALH84001, which was among the stolen samples, to more than 30.000.000 US$. Is that anywhere near realistic? Best regards Axel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: drtanuki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 26 september 2005 2:51 Aan: Axel Emmermann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: RE: [meteorite-list] US National Hero.. Was: Crackpot impact theory Dear Axel and List, As some of you may know, Axel Emmermann was the person responsible for aiding in the recovery of the stolen NASA Lunites and other meteorites stolen by Thad Roberts and gang at the JSC. He was never reward by NASA or the US Government with a piece of the moon or much of anything other than maybe a meek thank you. I want to Thank and Reward Axel, on behalf of the meteorite community and this List, for his many hours of hard work and sweat, not to mention the great stress he suffered in this ordeal. I will donate to him some Lunar material. If anyone else wants to follow up with their Lunar Reward please come forward. Thanks to all and especially Axel. Axel can provide to the list more information about the article that he wrote, that did not make the newspapers. It is quite a story of cloak and dagger. Axel should be considered a US National Hero. Thank you. Best Always in LIFE, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
RE: [meteorite-list] AD - Do you want a rare and importantMetachondrite ?
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