Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-26 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Sterling,

There were hundreds more, here only a few to add to your list.
No year without war...

1342-1346 Thuringia feud of earls
1360-1365 1st Hanseatic War
1370-1388 War of the Lueneburg Succession
1398-1408 Appenzell Wars
1412Flailers War
1419-1432 Hussitic Wars
1423-1430 1st Venetian-Turkish War
1436-1450 Old Zurich War
1446-1451 Saxonian fratricidal War
1449-1451 1st War of Margraves
1461-1462 Baden-Palatinate War
1463-1479 2nd Venetian-Turkish War
1474-1477 Burgundy Wars
1494-1559 Great Italian Wars
1499 Swabian War
1499-1503 2nd Venetian-Turkish War  
1520-1521 Comuneros Rebellion
1521-1523 Swedish Liberation War
1521-1526 Ottoman-Hungarian War
1522-1523 Palatine Knight Rebellion
1524-1526 German Peasant War
1526-1555 Austro-Venetian-Turkish War
1526-1538 Hungarian Civil War
1531 Swiss Civil War
1534-1536 The Counts' Feud (Denmark)
1546-1547 Schmalkaldian War
1552-1557 2nd War of Margraves
1562-1563 1st Huguenot War
1563-1570 Northern Seven Year's War
1566-1568 2nd Austro-Turkish War
1567-1568 2nd Huguenot War
1568-1570 3rd Huguenot War
1570-1573 5th Ventian-Turkish War
1572-1573 4th Huguenot War
1574-1580 Huguenot Wars #4-#7
1580-1583 Portuguese Civil War
1583-1588 Truchsessian War
1585-1590 8th Huguenot War
1593-1615 3rd Austro-Ottoman War
1595-1597 2nd Austrian Peasant War
1598-1629 1st Swedish-Polish War
1609-1618 1st Russian-Polish War
1611-1613 Kalmar War
1613-1617 Swedish-Russian War
1614-1621 Polish-Turkish War 
1624-1654 Dutch-Portuguese War
1626 Autrian Peasant War
1629-1631 Succession War of Mantua
1632-1634 2nd Russo-Polish War
1635-1639 Pyrenees War
1643-1645 Torstensson War
1645-1669 6th Venetian-Turkish War
1652-1654 1st Anglo-Dutch War
1654-1656 3rd Russo-Polish War
1654-1660 Anglo-Spanish War
1655-1661 Northern Wars
1657-1668 Spanish-Portuguese War
1658-1667 4th Russo-Polish War
1659-1668 Restoration War
1663-1664 4th Austro-Turkish War
1665-1667 2nd Anglo-Dutch War
1671-1676 Polish-Turkish War
1672-1674 3rd Anglo-Dutch War
1672-1678 French-Dutch War
1674-1678 Swedish-Brandenburg Wars
1675-1679 Scanian War
1683-1699 5th Austro-/1st Russo-/ 7th Venetian Turkish War
1688-1697 War of the Grand Alliance
1695-1700 2nd Russo-Turkish War

Well, so I guess we have only to tell to those Taliban on both sides in
Northern-Ireland to go to that hell, they're believing in, to show to the
Basques, that they can proceed with their folklore in peace, as the
Bavarians did, when they were sold to the Prussians, to instruct the few
rassistic idiots on Balkan, not to do it again, and for that Hitler from
Belarus the UN should buy an exile in Switzerland,
And then it will look quite good.

How to get that together with meteorites?
Those endless battles made it very difficult to hunt with detectors in
Europe for meteorites.

Peaceful Weekend!
Martin



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Martin Altmann said:

 There were always wars, wars, wars...
 funny enough, people now ranting about
 the European Union always forget...

1337-1453 Hundred Years' War
1455-1485 Wars of the Roses
1496-1499 Russo-Swedish War of 1496-1499
1522-1559 Habsburg-Valois Wars
1554-1557 Russo-Swedish War of 1554-1557
1558-1583 Livonian War
1568-1648 Eighty Years' War
1590-1595 Russo-Swedish War of 1590-1595
1594-1603 Nine Years' War (Ireland)
1610-1617 Ingrian War
1618-1648 Thirty Years' War
1641-1649 Wars of Castro
1641-1653 Irish Confederate Wars
1642-1651 English Civil War
1644-1650 Scottish Civil War
1656-1658 Russo-Swedish War of 1656-1658
1667-1668 War of Devolution
1667-1683 Great Turkish War
1688-1691 Williamite War in Ireland
1700-1721 Great Northern War
1701-1713 War of the Spanish Succession
1733-1738 War of the Polish Succession
1739-1740 War of Jenkins' Ear
1740-1748 War of the Austrian Succession
1741-1743 Russo-Swedish War of 1741-1743
1756-1763 Seven Years' War
1788-1790 Russo-Swedish War of 1788-1790
1789-1799 French Revolution
1798 Irish Rebellion of 1798
1792-1815 Napoleonic Wars
1808-1809 Finnish War
1848-1866 Italian Independence wars
1848-1849 First Italian Independence War
1859 Second Italian Independence War
1866 Third Italian Independence War
1854-1856 Crimean War
1866-1866 Austro-Prussian War
1870-1871 Franco-Prussian War
1877-1878 Russo-Turkish War
1893-1896 Cod War of 1893
1897 First Greco-Turkish War
1912-1913 Balkan Wars
1914-1918 World War I
1916 Easter Rising
1917-1920 Estonian Liberation War
1918-1919 Czechoslovakia-Hungary War
1918 Finnish Civil War
1918-1920 Russian Civil War
1919-1921 Irish War of Independence
1922-1923 Irish Civil War
1936-1939 Spanish Civil War
1939-1940 Winter War
1939-1945 World War II
1958 First Cod War
1972-1973 Second Cod War
1974 Turkish Invasion of Cyprus
1975-1976 Third Cod War
1994-1996 First Chechen 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-26 Thread Göran Axelsson
Couldn't let this topic pass by without making a post.

One of the most fantastic books in my library is Hector Servadac by 
Jules Verne.
In it a comet is picking up part of the Earth (with some inhabitants) 
and brings it along on a fantastic journey. The interesting thing isn't 
the journey in it self, but the description of the different people that 
went along. All from the great french officers, stubborn brittish and a 
crooked jew. I gives a nice view of what the mindset was among the 
people in Europe late in the 19:th century.

Full text in French : http://jv.gilead.org.il/zydorczak/ser00.htm
... or in English from Project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1353

... kind of explains the many wars we have had in Europe... to connect 
on another topic discussed here.

  :-)

/Göran

MexicoDoug wrote:
 Hello Listees, again,

 ...today, I imagine several cheering their Cheshire grins and feeding their 
 fattened guts...sitting on the sofa and still smacking the lips like the cat 
 that swallowed little Tweety...

 Right or wrong, it's said there's something fulfilling for the man that can 
 do three things before he dies: Have a Son, Write a book, and Plant a 
 tree...(wheew - lot of work left to do)  I'm sure I've missed more books 
 than I've listed  which are fictional novels relating somehow to meteorites, 
 but here are two more (the second one is an online ditty) written by list 
 member which have special reasons not to be left out,

 ADVENTURES OF DIANA: THE UNDERWORLD by Jim Balister
 Popular Action book off the presses recently which follows a plain-Jane girl 
 named Diana loses her job, and while looking for a new one meets the love of 
 her life, David, who happens to be a meteorite collector, among other 
 things.  At one point they spot a fireball and try to recover it.  One day, 
 in this sweet midwestern American boredom, the Earth takes a turn 
 unexpectedly and quake hits, followed by every extraterrestrial, 
 governmental plague and monsterous vermin that can be thrown at its 
 inhabitants, including Diana.  With the help of a geologist, Diana goes down 
 a pit where they find a flying saucer that kidnaps them, one mishap and 
 incredible recovery takes place after another, the upper and lower worlds, 
 with almost all their monsters and creatures facing destruction.  But then 
 Diana meets someone important and she yearns to reestablish her life and 
 settle down with David...

 STAR MONEY by the Bros. Altmann (jeje)
 A short fable summarized by our very favorite Germans, based on the original 
 which was probably much older than the 1803 L'Aigle fall itself.  Gives 
 great insight to cultural fantasies of the significance of meteorites in the 
 deep recesses of human thought.  Interestingly, in an odd twist, it 
 personifies what we all yearn in meteorite hunting in one form or 
 another...READ THE ENGLISH translation free here, no need to buy the book, 
 compiled by the namsake of Chladni's heirs:  Story featured in Nation 
 Geographic:

 http://www.nationalgeographic.com/grimm/star_money2.html

 Best wishes, Doug




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 From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:30 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] List of Meteorite novels for gifts


   
 Hola Listees,

 Thanks very kindly for the meteorite fictional book ideas many of you 
 kindly
 sent in response to my post the other day.

 I thought I would post a summary in case anyone else was looking for gift
 ideas for friends family or loved ones.

 First, I'll tell you the book I decided to get for a special person (just
 received today!!!), followed by a list of other books (for which I owe
 thanks to everyone who helped me out on and off list):

 Winner:  STARDUST, (Spanish Title: Lluvia de Estrellas = Meteor Shower-) 
 by
 Neil Gaiman
 This is a romantic fantasy about the faeries and struck ones in the nicest
 sense.  While it seems like it is written for children, the naughty author
 has the meteorite curse after her painful atmospheric entry, and there is 
 a
 bit of steamy sex to whet some folks appetites... Two cultures somewhere 
 in
 the English countryside are divided by a wall every day except one in 9
 years.  An adventurous young man with an interesting birthright is with 
 the
 prettiest girl in the nondescript human village inside the stone wall.
 Victoria owns his heart, but, she doesn't care much for Tristran.  They 
 gaze
 into the sky when witnessing the ground shaking and thunder accompanying a
 shooting star.  It begins as a small light, but quickly outshines the Moon
 and brilliantly falls somewhere on the other side of the wall, where there
 are enchanted meadows, trees and their inhabitants.  The young man 
 Tristran
 is so blinded by love that he somehow becomes obsessed with the labor to
 recover the fallen star and bring it to her to win her heart and live
 happily ever after.

 Only, he has lots of 

[meteorite-list] Christmas gift for meteorite dealers and collectors

2006-11-26 Thread Ivan Kutyrev
Good day, meteorite lovers!

I made a Christmas gift for meteorite dealers, who are selling
meteorites on eBay.
There were created a lenses on Squidoo site for everyone listed on
my page on the left side.

www.sikhote.com/Meteorites

Please take a minute to see those lenses.
If somebody interested in his lens, I shall add more info to this page.
Just request and sent me by email some additional info:
1. A picture(or few pictures) - it can be your own person, or your
meteorite, or whatever you like to be placed.
2. Your email address if you like insert it. If you do not like share
your email address, please let me know. I'll insert your email and/or
your personal name only if you ask me do that.
3. Some text, better described your interests, or your business, or
you meteorites, or just whatever you like to say people.

When I insert those info to your page, I'll add meta tags to this
page, which are better describe information on this page. After that,
very soon, your page should be find on top pages in search engines
(first of all, in Google).

4. Best of all - I will add your favorite links to other sites, when
you sent me those links and a short description of your favorite
site(s).
That is good for promote your very own site or/and your friends sites,
or just sites that you are like, so, your favorite.
This is good for increase your site page ranking in all search engines.

I add the RSS codes to all of those lenses. This is one of the sample
how to use your own RSS feeds.
But not only a sample. You may insert links to your lens into your own
site, or into eBay About me page, or just into end of your emails
for better promote your own eBay listings.
Non eBay sellers, but eBay buyers may bookmark favorite sellers lenses
for easy watch their auctions.

Please sent me request and info just in email in free form. As soon as
I get it I'll add it to your lens and inform you.

Thanks for looking! And Merry Christmas!

Sincerely yours,
Ivan


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[meteorite-list] Error deleted: Christmas gift for meteorite dealers and collectors

2006-11-26 Thread Ivan Kutyrev
Sorry it was link error in previous email!


Good day, meteorite lovers!

I made a Christmas gift for meteorite dealers, who are selling
meteorites on eBay.
There were created a lenses on Squidoo site for everyone listed on
my page on the left side.

www.sikhote.com/Meteorites.html

Please take a minute to see those lenses.
If somebody interested in his lens, I shall add more info to this page.
Just request and sent me by email some additional info:
1. A picture(or few pictures) - it can be your own person, or your
meteorite, or whatever you like to be placed.
2. Your email address if you like insert it. If you do not like share
your email address, please let me know. I'll insert your email and/or
your personal name only if you ask me do that.
3. Some text, better described your interests, or your business, or
you meteorites, or just whatever you like to say people.

When I insert those info to your page, I'll add meta tags to this
page, which are better describe information on this page. After that,
very soon, your page should be find on top pages in search engines
(first of all, in Google).

4. Best of all - I will add your favorite links to other sites, when
you sent me those links and a short description of your favorite
site(s).
That is good for promote your very own site or/and your friends sites,
or just sites that you are like, so, your favorite.
This is good for increase your site page ranking in all search engines.

I add the RSS codes to all of those lenses. This is one of the sample
how to use your own RSS feeds.
But not only a sample. You may insert links to your lens into your own
site, or into eBay About me page, or just into end of your emails
for better promote your own eBay listings.
Non eBay sellers, but eBay buyers may bookmark favorite sellers lenses
for easy watch their auctions.

Please sent me request and info just in email in free form. As soon as
I get it I'll add it to your lens and inform you.

Thanks for looking! And Merry Christmas!

Sincerely yours,
Ivan


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http://www.sikhote.com/Meteorites.html

Thanks,

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Re: [meteorite-list] website GONE

2006-11-26 Thread almitt
Hi Steve and all,

I once had a wise old teacher at school tell the students that as long 
as what another person does, doesn't effect other people that is his or 
her business. If what that person does, DOES effect other people then it 
becomes their business or in this case the list business.

Had you simply taken a little friendly advise from those people who were 
trying to offer it to you in the very beginning, I think the outcome 
would have been very much different than what it is now. I tried to help 
you out at first so it would save you this trouble and embarrassment and 
you told me you could do what ever you wanted and this was a free 
country and mind my own business. I think it was about a week later that 
several list members sent you the first comments about the sale 
advertisements you were constantly posting and have constantly posted 
until so many people were sending open and private emails to you letting 
you know there feelings about your posts.

You don't seem to understand that if you can constantly post sale ads 
that people have the right to then complain about them (cause and 
effect). Had you abided by the once a week rule, I don't think anyone 
would have said anything to you. Your no better or less better than 
anyone else on the list but you are the one who has generated the 
negative posts from the list by not abiding by the simple rules. You 
can't blame anyone but yourself.

--AL

steve arnold wrote:

Also a HUGE apology to all on
this list for the misgivings of all this posts to
advertise my sales.There is nothing left to sell.The
rest of anything else is on ebay.And just a side
note,I wish anyone who likes to do PUBLIC  attacks on
this list please keep it private.NO ONE LIKES PUBLIC
ATTACKS.For some reason some people think that
everything here needs to be aired.NO MORE!!
  

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[meteorite-list] 70kg monster chondrite for sale

2006-11-26 Thread ¤¤PolandMET¤¤
Hi
Well known moroccan dealer Mr Habibi have a monster size chondrite for sale.
http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa_aziz.htm
If You are interested send him an offer.
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Re: [meteorite-list] 70kg monster chondrite for sale

2006-11-26 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:35:31 +0100, you wrote:

Hi
Well known moroccan dealer Mr Habibi have a monster size chondrite for sale.
http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa_aziz.htm

Wow, this one is nicer than the 70 kilo one:

http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_nwa_aziz/003.htm
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[meteorite-list] unclassifieds

2006-11-26 Thread steve arnold
Hello list.I hope everyone had a great holiday and had
enough room for turkey.I just want to let you know
that I still have 6 freebies of unclassifieds
left.Grab them while you can.Thanks to the first 7 who
chimed in.







steve

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
  Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!



 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector

2006-11-26 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Pardon my comment but  the cheapest is not a very good cryteria for 
picking a new detector If that were the case, we would all be 
swinging radio shack brand detectors.
I have one, it is the White's GM-3 and it suits all my needs since I 
know how to use it.
But then again, maybe Ssteevvveee does need 9 more, one to trade, one to 
sell and switch, one to offer and sell for his wife, one...oh never 
mind, I lost track.

Dave F.

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Steve,  I have around 10 detectors.  You need a different one for each job.  I 
would sugest a Garett Master Hunter!  It is the best for most detecting.  There 
is a place in Fla.  that has the cheapest new detectors. (Calaco)  If you are 
interested I will try to find the address, but that may take a while as most of 
my reference stuff is packed away and I would have to go through about 20 boxes 
of lit.  Jim Balister
 




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Re: [meteorite-list] ACID FOR ETCHING: QUESTION

2006-11-26 Thread Charles Viau
While Ferric Chloride is safer, it is much slower… and it seems (to me
anyway) that the etched definition is much lower….
 
I have found a good source for small quantities of nitric acid to be
jewelers, especially those that plate gold.
They mix hydrochloric with nitric to make aqua regia, an acid powerful
enough to dissolve gold. Very dangerous stuff and certainly not an acid that
you would ever use on a meteorite, unless you want to see it disappear…
however many will sell you a small amount of nitric if you ask. Again, they
use the pure stuff so be real careful… take it home wrapped in lots of paper
in a box.  Dilute it!  Typical is a 5% Nitric solution using 100% denatured
ethyl alcohol  (not the isopropyl type in water) or 1 part pure nitric in 19
parts alcohol. 
Standard chem. 101 safety statement : Add acid into alcohol!, not alcohol
into acid! , wear goggles, use latex gloves and do it in the garage, not the
house…
 
CharlyV
 
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Try Ferric Chloride much better and safer.  - Available from electronics
stores
 
 
 
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Hi to all list members!
 It has been a long time since I have needed a new bottle of nitric
acid.  So long that the last time I bought a bottle, it was at a drug store.
Really!  Short of going 25 miles to a collage chem store, where would be the
best place to get a bottle of acid?  No one around my town has any!  Any
help would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Jim Balister

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[meteorite-list] hi

2006-11-26 Thread Felipe Guajardo

My name is Felipe Gujardo and I would like to stop receiving messages
forwarded to my e-mail.. thankyou in advance
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[meteorite-list] The first moroccan online meteorites shop

2006-11-26 Thread meteorites whole sale
dear list ,
   THE FIRST MOROCCAN ONLINE METEORITES SHOP 
IS GOING TO SATART ON 01/01/07 .
   
  CHONDRITES PROMOTION law prices.
   
  GOOD CHONDRITES STONES : blackglossy
  - 05 kilogramms up to 10kilos   :$200/1kg
  - Over 10kilos  :$150/1kg
  FINE CHONDRITES STONES : black ones :
  - Over 05kilos is ok:$100/kg
  WEATHERED CHONDRITES STONES  :
  -weathered with fusion crust  :$40/kg .
  -weathered with no fusion crust  :$20/kg
   
   
  Achondrites are available but not much as chondrites :
  sepecial offers :
- Eucrites
- howardites
- Tha PAC 
   
  Anyone interested contact me for pictures and more informations at :
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[meteorite-list] Updated my site with lots of new photos.

2006-11-26 Thread Joe
Hello list,

   I have been updating my site a lot in the past few days. I have added quite 
a few new pages and lots of new photos, I finally got a 1cm scale cube so I 
took many new photos. I have a lot of new meteorites that I have added 
recently, I will still be adding more in the next few days.  There are a few 
really nice unique specimens. Thanks for your time and I hope you all enjoy the 
photos, and are invited to join our forum. My collection has been growing 
really fast, I am quite proud of it and would like to share it with you all. 
Thanks Again.
http://illinoismeteorites.com/collection.htm

Thanks,
Joe Kerchner
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[meteorite-list] OT Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-26 Thread Bill
Doug,

It doesn't take a google cowboy, just a little common sense, to understand the 
brutal nature of our species. No nation or people is exempt. I've also heard 
that we have an enormous capacity for good.

Bill



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 Sterling wrote:
 1739-1740 War of Jenkins' Ear
 And [the USA's] certainly never managed to have a war as magnificently
 named as The War of Jenkins' Ear! Now, that's how to name a war! Clear,
 concise, and everybody knows exactly what it's all about.
 
 Hey Sterling,
 
 Hah! remember studies in Western Civ - between Physics and philosophy
 class
 :-) -, really, the USA has darn well so managed to have a war equally
 magnificient in name as the War of Jenkin's Ear.
 
 It was called The War of Jenkin's Ear; Same Jenkins - and it wasn't
 Jenkin's other ear.  Don't forget that Jenkin's ear was supposedly
 severed
 in the Americas, and he was as English as George Washington at the time.
 So
 I'd Argue that not only did the Americans participate in that war - they
 also started it.  Not to mention the USA started the funiest named war of
 all: The Quasi-War as thanks to the French right after the French
 supported the American Independence effort.
 
 That particular Jenkin's Ear war in the 1740's is actually the same war
 that
 was contracted by the European continent and spread to Bohemia and
 resulted
 in the French tossing the Elbogen Iron meteorite down the to the bottom
 of
 the Bohemian well where it rusted for 40 years.  It was a small world
 back
 then, too.  In the USA, in the great American State of Georgia, the
 military
 general who founded Georgia wasted no time to marshal his proud Savannah
 compatriots and adventurous Charlestonians out of South Carolina to
 pillage
 everything from Jacksonville, Florida to St. Augustine, and that was only
 openers.
 
 Oh the United States has had oogles more practically nameless wars than
 you
 give it credit for in those years.  They don't Google easily out of a
 database like your nice European ones, but they were bloodier if Indians
 are
 men considered equal in the eyes of the Creator.  You've got to consider
 that in Europe all those wars were spread among 20-30 countries.  How
 many
 Indian real nations do you think the singular USA trounced in a religious
 ferver to achieve its destiny?  The USA is a nation that was perpetually
 at
 war on its own and its extended frontiers.  There are more Indian wars
 alone, than Indian nations that yielded in defeat against the cleansing
 of
 the continent from Atlantic to Pacific.  Take Florida, which heaped war
 upon
 wars, genocide and forced relocation.  Or maybe Missouri - if the Indians
 had caught on quicker, you might be living in a teepee today, or at least
 your neighbor  :-)
 
 As for the lack of colorful names of wars in the USA even without
 considering who started the War of Jenkin's Ear, does Europe have a
 Battle
 of Little Bighorn, which is a battle the war easily can assume for the
 name, and really was the fight leading to the demise of a race of people?
 If that isn't enough, how about the Gipper's Star Wars, who has one of
 those programs besides George Lucas?  And I am convinced that the US
 participated as a silent partner in the infamous Football War, as
 well...
 
 Best wishes, Doug
 (no slights to any nation, no offense; we are who we are and I can live
 with
 that just fine, until someone else tosses a spectacular iron in a well to
 fester.  Guess the Evian was too depleted in minerals for their taste)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'MexicoDoug'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
 
 
 Martin Altmann said:
 
 There were always wars, wars, wars...
 funny enough, people now ranting about
 the European Union always forget...
 
 1337-1453 Hundred Years' War
 1455-1485 Wars of the Roses
 1496-1499 Russo-Swedish War of 1496-1499
 1522-1559 Habsburg-Valois Wars
 1554-1557 Russo-Swedish War of 1554-1557
 1558-1583 Livonian War
 1568-1648 Eighty Years' War
 1590-1595 Russo-Swedish War of 1590-1595
 1594-1603 Nine Years' War (Ireland)
 1610-1617 Ingrian War
 1618-1648 Thirty Years' War
 1641-1649 Wars of Castro
 1641-1653 Irish Confederate Wars
 1642-1651 English Civil War
 1644-1650 Scottish Civil War
 1656-1658 Russo-Swedish War of 1656-1658
 1667-1668 War of Devolution
 1667-1683 Great Turkish War
 1688-1691 Williamite War in Ireland
 1700-1721 Great Northern War
 1701-1713 War of the Spanish Succession
 1733-1738 War of the Polish Succession
 1739-1740 War of Jenkins' Ear
 1740-1748 War of the Austrian Succession
 1741-1743 Russo-Swedish War of 1741-1743
 1756-1763 Seven Years' War
 1788-1790 

[meteorite-list] What is this?

2006-11-26 Thread Jim Strope
Anybody have any ideas?

Obviously not a meteorite but here is the story.

I have a friend who has what he thinks is a metorite which was disccovered 
near an adena indian burial mound by a grave digger in 1894 and given to a 
doctor for a medical bill. This possible metorite weighs about 75 lbs. and 
is black in color like the one you have for same but it is more symmetrical 
and water melon shaped.

Here is the photo:

http://www.catchafallingstar.com/000.jpg


Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com 

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Re: [meteorite-list] What is this?

2006-11-26 Thread Mark
grind stone for black walnuts?
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] What is this?


 Anybody have any ideas?

 Obviously not a meteorite but here is the story.

 I have a friend who has what he thinks is a metorite which was 
 disccovered
 near an adena indian burial mound by a grave digger in 1894 and given to a
 doctor for a medical bill. This possible metorite weighs about 75 lbs. and
 is black in color like the one you have for same but it is more 
 symmetrical
 and water melon shaped.

 Here is the photo:

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/000.jpg


 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II

2006-11-26 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Doug, Martin, List,

Operating on the principle that the longer I talk,
the more likely my chance to really annoy someone
becomes, I snipped a lot of sentences out of what
I originally wrote.

The history of the USA up until 1900-1910 is best
described as a kind of ongoing conflict, somewhat
short of formal war. I was going to say that, so no
disagreement there. In fact, the history of most nations
can be so described with some accuracy.

Even with Martin's addition of a few hundred more
wars for Europe, there's a background of conflict that
generates them. The Serbian obsession with Kosovo,
its ancient homeland, dates from a conquest late in
the first millennium AD of the people who still live there,
the Illyrians, or rather their descendents, who were there
before the first millennium BC, which makes the Serbian
historical claim look a little silly.

But these ethnic histories solve nothing; one has only
to look at the Middle East to have that demonstrated.
Such arguments over who is exclusively entitled to the
land are endless, unending, and productive of nothing
but carnage, even between folks as completely and
totally indistinguishable as two Irishmen.

United Statesians (so as to avoid the over-broad usage
of Americans) mostly have what is so often called a
naive view: Why doesn't everybody just forget about
settling the score for the past and try to work on solving
the problems that exist NOW?

The scorn of the sophisticated not withstanding, there
is a another name for this: SANITY. If the price of this
mental health is to be achieved by, say, modern Europeans,
acting as if THEY never had a war, being morally superior
to those so backward as to get stuck in conflicts, well,
sanity is worth that. That IS the idea -- to dump the past.
History, said James Joyce a century ago, is a nightmare
I'm trying to wake up from.

 does Europe have a Battle of Little Bighorn, which...
 was the fight leading to the demise of a race of people?

Duh. Yeah! And the Sioux (and all the other tribes
that participated in an INDIAN victory there) still exist,
no thanks to General Custer, just as Jews still exist, no
thanks to... We weren't going to drag up the past,
were we?

 if the Indians had caught on quicker...

American natives caught on right away. They each
and all sat in council about what to do about the odd
newcomers from the very year they first showed up!
Every strategy you can imagine was tried. It's common-
place to present these centuries of native statecraft as
if they all sat there like idiots until the late 1800's, but
that notion is what is really demeaning. A delay of a
potential annihilation for centuries is a major achievement;
there are innumerable spots around the globe where
indigenous peoples have been destroyed in a decade
or three. As for uniting scores, even hundreds, of
nations with no common language, belief, or culture,
ask Tecumseh about how that worked out...

The real war was epidemiological. The Black
Death made its way into North America ahead of the
Europeans, in the 15th century, and was followed
shortly by a flood of new European diseases in the
next century. Europeans, in person, were entering
devastated and de-populated lands everywhere in
the New World, north and south. Not that they
weren't trying to kill the locals, just that their efforts
were puny compared to what the microbes (whose
existence both sides were unaware of) accomplished.
It's hard to slow down an invasion when your own
population is reduced by up to 90%!

I'm sorry you were so upset by General Oglethorpe
and the Battle of Bloody Marsh, Doug, but I will remind
you that it took place after Jerkins carted his ear-in-a-jar
up to the British Parliment and got Walpole to declare
the Ear War. Had the fortunes of war fallen differently,
why, you would be walking the picturesque calles de
Neuvo Atlanta, capitol of Las Floridas del Norte, while
avoiding the camera-toting USian tourists in their garish
shirts and plastic flip-flops...

I would love to kick around the causes of the
five-day Football War with you, Doug, but I think
that it breaks the tenuous chain that links Jenkins' ear
to a wet meteorite in a moat surrounded by mocking
Frenchmen!


Sterling K. Webb
--
And Bill just summed it up in three sentences better
than either of us, I think...
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To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:56 PM
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 Sterling wrote:
 1739-1740 War of Jenkins' Ear
 And [the USA's] certainly never managed to have a war as magnificently 
 named as The War of Jenkins' Ear! Now, that's how to name a war! Clear, 
 concise, and everybody knows exactly what it's all about.

 Hey 

Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester

2006-11-26 Thread Darren Garrison
Interesting note-- I just saw this web site featured on CBS news tonight.
Included a brief interview with the site operator.  It was on because other than
magnets, the site sells radioactive materials, including Palodium 210 (and lists
a few meteorites, but all show as sold)


On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:30:29 -0500, you wrote:

Take a look at the supermagnets near the bottom of the page.  Massive
rare-earth magnets.

http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester

2006-11-26 Thread Dave Carothers
As they say in their web site:  If you're looking for a clean, accurate,
certified radiation sources, here they are...

I think I'm gonna start a new hobby. collecting radioactive isotopes.

Dave

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 Interesting note-- I just saw this web site featured on CBS news tonight.
 Included a brief interview with the site operator.  It was on because
other than
 magnets, the site sells radioactive materials, including Palodium 210 (and
lists
 a few meteorites, but all show as sold)


 On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:30:29 -0500, you wrote:

 Take a look at the supermagnets near the bottom of the page.  Massive
 rare-earth magnets.
 
 http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Is this Libyan Desert Glass?

2006-11-26 Thread dellenit
Hi Ann,

this is wind polished quartzite, i have seen this several times in nature, 
people thinking it is LDG. the reddish tint comes from iron. 

best regards

Harald


- Original von:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In a message dated 11/25/2006 10:09:10 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Norbert Classen kirjoitti:
 Peter  wrote:
 
 the LDG of this seller looks a bit strange. Is it  real or fake?

 What do the experts  think?

  http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcommon_murreQQhtZ-1
 
 I'm  certainly no expert for LDG, but this looks much like hyalithe to me,
  i.e. opal, and not like LDG. The last piece on his list is surely no  LDG,
 either. Adding to that, this is a new seller from the land of fakes  (China)
 with minimal feedback - so buyers beware!
 
  Best,
 Norbert


Also to me the specimens look like Hyalite,  which can be
found in large quantities in Fujian Province,  China.

http://www.mindat.org/loc-21240.html

best, pekka  s
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I have seen quite a few pieces of LDG, and I have some on my site if you  
want to compare.
But I have never seen Pink LDG!!
 
After fake moldavites, now it seems that we have fake LDG!  
Great! :-(

Anne M.  Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
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President, I.M.C.A.  Inc.
www.IMCA.cc
 
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