[meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Cause, Old Nay-Sayer, Paul wrote to the Corinthians, 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Thats, why you can buy this fall now for almost nothing, what do you guess. Much success in reselling. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von steve arnold Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007 14:27 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WG: price per gram on mali
My apologize, I shouldn't have written that, was inordinate, sorry. I was disappointed, cause I was thinking, that now after the uncomely struggles about Carancas were finally settled, Steve starts again to bomb the list with his mails... But he was quiet for a long time, so it was unfair to react so harshly. Trouncing please in private mails, keep the list clean. Martin (Corinthians aren't only a football team...) PS: Indeed like almost all Maghreb falls, that new one is extraordinary nice and theoretically, seen the superb pieces, can't express it else: dirt cheap. A good buy for the beginner as well as for the classicist, also regarding the long run. Perhaps one should wait a little, until more will be available, to pick out the very best specimens - but not too long, as the very best museum pieces will sell first - remember that nowadays you won't find cheap large and excellent Bensours, clean Zags and the very best of the best Amgalas anymore (or at least not so cheap), and in my eyes, it really doesn't matter, whether the most excellent examples of such a fall cost 1.5$ or 3$/g, as they will be among the best specimens of one's collection, your whole life long, and it is simply impossible to get such fine stones of any other falls in other countries for such little money. No, we haven't any for sale. That's no AD. __ - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Cause, Old Nay-Sayer, Paul wrote to the Corinthians, 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. That's, why you can buy this fall now for almost nothing, what do you guess. Much success in reselling. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von steve arnold Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007 14:27 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re. Munich Show 2007 TRIP PLAN
Hello To make Our life easier I have prepared "trip plan" for incoming Munich Show. There are 3 pages of hall A4, A5 and A6 with dealers name that have (or they should have) meteorites or related items that is in our interest. It is easy to print in Internet Explorer or in Your text editor like MS Word (I tested it in OpenOffice 2.2 only) http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a4.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a5.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a6.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/munich.zip There is plan of each hall with marked tables of each dealer who declared that he have meteorites for sale. I use search engine for Meteorite word from links that Martin send before. I hope this will help. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Show info: http://www.mineralientage.de/?lang=en Here you can search for meteorites offerors: http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=angebot and here you can mark them in the plans of the three halls: http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=lageplan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re. Munich Show 2007 TRIP PLAN
Thanks Marcin, that's what I call a service! Have to make some remarks. Don't expect to much, meteorites came to attention as sellable goods in the recent years, so that also such dealers, who have only 2 or 3 specimens or only indochinites, listed meteorites in their assortment, when they registered for the show. In worst case, they are some esoteric dealers, with some Mekong River irons or some Campo-pendants at 10fold prices. Another observation I made is, that many dealers from Morocco are bringing only a very few selected nicer pieces with them and not the loads and boxes like 3 or 4 years before. Not only because the supply shortened, but also because the normal chondrites sell worse than their fossils and minerals. Last year I saw the first Moroccan selling not NWA, but Sikhote :-) On the other hand, several well known meteorite people are sharing their tables with other dealers and are not listed in the dealer's directory. Please hand in your booth number to Marcin, that he can add you to the plans! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von PolandMET Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007 15:36 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] re. Munich Show 2007 TRIP PLAN Hello To make Our life easier I have prepared "trip plan" for incoming Munich Show. There are 3 pages of hall A4, A5 and A6 with dealers name that have (or they should have) meteorites or related items that is in our interest. It is easy to print in Internet Explorer or in Your text editor like MS Word (I tested it in OpenOffice 2.2 only) http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a4.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a5.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a6.htm http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/munich.zip There is plan of each hall with marked tables of each dealer who declared that he have meteorites for sale. I use search engine for Meteorite word from links that Martin send before. I hope this will help. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Show info: http://www.mineralientage.de/?lang=en Here you can search for meteorites offerors: http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=angebot and here you can mark them in the plans of the three halls: http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=lageplan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas, Peru Meteorite Could Be 10 Tons
and what they waith to recover? I have just received my piece of Carancas, I am under polishing with sand machine Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One Gram Carancas Meteorite - only $50- shipping
Item #300161908737 if the link does not work. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300161908737 Don Don Rawlings Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas, Peru Meteorite Could Be 10 Tons
Matteo, they have no plans to recover the meteorite. It sits, today one month and one day under sewage water. What do you think a fragile high-metal meteorite will look like after that? Peru is a disgrace. I offered to fund the excavation, I was ridiculed, called a thief (by the same police who sold me pieces then robbed me) and a scam artist and had to flee the country. Carancas will not be dug up in time to save it, the few puny pieces my friends and I and a few others managed to save are all that is out there. This meteorite has already been classified, and submitted to the nomcom, and expect information shortly when it is released for me to provide. The Carancas fall will go down in history as a disgrace for Peru, since they trashed their first confirmed meteorite fall, leaving it in dirty water now for months. Their scientists are more concerned about their own notoriety, not the meteorite. The government and police all want their hand in the money-pie, that is why they stopped us from excavating and trying to save the meteorite, they were being cut out of the potential profit to be made from it by the locals. It is surely one of the most corrupt places I have been, sad to say, but I have never been squeezed nearly this hard even in more than 40 trips to Africa. Most of the time, money demands in Africa, Burkina Faso, Lesotho, etc were $10 or $20.00 not the thousands demanded of me in Peru. Michael Farmer Check out the link to the Lonely Planet thorn tree, where travelers post advice and complete, read how corrupt the police are in Desaguadero. http://search.lonelyplanet.com/search.do?Ntt=desaguadero&x=10&y=13 come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and what they waith to recover? > I have just received my piece of Carancas, I am > under > polishing with sand machine > > Matteo > > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, > ITALY > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > > ___ > L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con > la nuova Yahoo! Mail: > http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MIT boffins plan for asteroidal doom
MIT boffins plan for asteroidal doom, Register, UK -Oct 15, 2007 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/15/mit_asteroid/ Yours, Paul H. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Hello Steve and List, Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being offering for such a good price ("...starting so low"). Easy, I (for one) was able to obtain it for an very fair price from my long time sources and can offer that to collectors. It is as simple as that. Good luck getting that special piece for your collection. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re. Munich Show 2007 TRIP PLAN
Martin, I can't wait, finally an escape from Tucson's never-ending heat this year. Of course, I have seen only a few days of it, but that is enough, I long for Sweden's cool 24 hour days! I will be in Munich, sharing some space with Moritz and Achim Karl. Expect to see a few goodies, not much, but I can bring things to order. The strenght of the Euro vs the pathetic state of the US$$ will make my goods very cheap I think! We will be bringing Lunar and Martian meteorite coins, anyone can pick your number pairs right now, and we can hand deliver in Munich. Anyone else wanting anything in particular, now is the time to email me so I can prepare it. Michael Farmer --- Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Marcin, > > that's what I call a service! > > Have to make some remarks. > Don't expect to much, meteorites came to attention > as sellable goods in the > recent years, so that also such dealers, who have > only 2 or 3 specimens or > only indochinites, listed meteorites in their > assortment, when they > registered for the show. In worst case, they are > some esoteric dealers, with > some Mekong River irons or some Campo-pendants at > 10fold prices. > > Another observation I made is, that many dealers > from Morocco are bringing > only a very few selected nicer pieces with them and > not the loads and boxes > like 3 or 4 years before. Not only because the > supply shortened, but also > because the normal chondrites sell worse than their > fossils and minerals. > Last year I saw the first Moroccan selling not NWA, > but Sikhote :-) > > On the other hand, several well known meteorite > people are sharing their > tables with other dealers and are not listed in the > dealer's directory. > > Please hand in your booth number to Marcin, that he > can add you to the > plans! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Best! > Martin > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Im Auftrag von > PolandMET > Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2007 15:36 > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Betreff: [meteorite-list] re. Munich Show 2007 TRIP > PLAN > > Hello > To make Our life easier I have prepared "trip plan" > for incoming Munich > Show. > There are 3 pages of hall A4, A5 and A6 with dealers > name that have (or they > > should have) meteorites or related items that is in > our interest. > It is easy to print in Internet Explorer or in Your > text editor like MS Word > > (I tested it in OpenOffice 2.2 only) > > http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a4.htm > http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a5.htm > http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/a6.htm > http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/munich.zip > > There is plan of each hall with marked tables of > each dealer who declared > that he have meteorites for sale. > I use search engine for Meteorite word from links > that Martin send before. > I hope this will help. > > -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- > http://www.Meteoryt.net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 > [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society > ] > > > > Show info: > http://www.mineralientage.de/?lang=en > > Here you can search for meteorites offerors: > http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=angebot > > and here you can mark them in the plans of the three > halls: > http://www.mineralientage.de/index.php?kat=68&typ=lageplan > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
I would say that the fact that there is more than 100 kilos and every Moroccan has some helps. I know that many kilos will be in Munich, my friends are bringing hundreds of stones. I can't wait to see them, then perhaps can see the difference between them and Bassikounou that photos can not show. Michael Farmer I guess no French-speaking list members found any information in Mali or Algerian newspapers? --- Greg Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Steve and List, > > Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being > offering for such a good > price ("...starting so low"). Easy, I (for one) was > able to obtain it for an > very fair price from my long time sources and can > offer that to collectors. > It is as simple as that. > > Good luck getting that special piece for your > collection. > > Best regards, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > > > - Original Message - > From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM > Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali > > > > Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali > > fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers > on > > both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on > > this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls > start > > out high and go thru the roof in the > > beginning.Everyone is out to get it right > away,than as > > time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this > fall > > is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 > per > > gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But > the > > question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has > not > > even been determined yet what it is.Again any > thoughts > > from the list? > > > > > > > > > > > > steve arnold,chicago > > > > Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! > > The Asteroid Belt! > > Chicagometeorites.net > > Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 > > Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > Preview the hottest > > shows on Yahoo! TV. > > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Hi all, Sorry but I am travelling at the moment and unfortunately do not have time to make a search about this Mali meteorite. I will try asap and should I find anything I will inform the List. Best wishes, Frederic www.meteoriteshow.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali > I would say that the fact that there is more than 100 > kilos and every Moroccan has some helps. I know that > many kilos will be in Munich, my friends are bringing > hundreds of stones. I can't wait to see them, then > perhaps can see the difference between them and > Bassikounou that photos can not show. > Michael Farmer > I guess no French-speaking list members found any > information in Mali or Algerian newspapers? > > --- Greg Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello Steve and List, > > > > Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being > > offering for such a good > > price ("...starting so low"). Easy, I (for one) was > > able to obtain it for an > > very fair price from my long time sources and can > > offer that to collectors. > > It is as simple as that. > > > > Good luck getting that special piece for your > > collection. > > > > Best regards, > > Greg > > > > > > Greg Hupe > > The Hupe Collection > > NaturesVault (eBay) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.LunarRock.com > > IMCA 3163 > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM > > Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali > > > > > > > Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali > > > fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers > > on > > > both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on > > > this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls > > start > > > out high and go thru the roof in the > > > beginning.Everyone is out to get it right > > away,than as > > > time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this > > fall > > > is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 > > per > > > gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But > > the > > > question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has > > not > > > even been determined yet what it is.Again any > > thoughts > > > from the list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > steve arnold,chicago > > > > > > Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! > > > The Asteroid Belt! > > > Chicagometeorites.net > > > Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 > > > Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > > Preview the hottest > > > shows on Yahoo! TV. > > > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Hello Mike and List, The crust is very similar, but after cutting the different ones at the same time Friday (photo I posted showing all three together), There are some major and not so major differences. You would have to see a polished face in person by hand and a microscope. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali I would say that the fact that there is more than 100 kilos and every Moroccan has some helps. I know that many kilos will be in Munich, my friends are bringing hundreds of stones. I can't wait to see them, then perhaps can see the difference between them and Bassikounou that photos can not show. Michael Farmer I guess no French-speaking list members found any information in Mali or Algerian newspapers? --- Greg Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Steve and List, Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being offering for such a good price ("...starting so low"). Easy, I (for one) was able to obtain it for an very fair price from my long time sources and can offer that to collectors. It is as simple as that. Good luck getting that special piece for your collection. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali > Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali > fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on > both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on > this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start > out high and go thru the roof in the > beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as > time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall > is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per > gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the > question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not > even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts > from the list? > > > > > > steve arnold,chicago > > Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! > The Asteroid Belt! > Chicagometeorites.net > Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 > Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites > > > > > > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest > shows on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
steve wrote Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts ... . well steve , if the price of te new fall continue in this trend than the limit of f(X), goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new mali falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi de suite, etc so steve you should wait and in a week not more , morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos ( - 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the new fall and some money . every body should wait. but it's not my cases. i take you for your words someone offered you the new fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; so here you have a chance steve to make some money. please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are this stones ;.. so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the photo of this meteorite.and what was offered to you for this price. im waiting aziz habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research
Hello List, After repeatedly scrutinizing the available crater pictures of the Carancas crater and trying to find out what is so exciting about it, I've come to the conclusion that it looks pretty much like the terraced walls of several lunar craters - for example: Tycho or Copernicus. While it would be (or: would have been) extremely important to retrieve the main mass at the bottom of the crater as quickly as possible, it may also be a serious mistake not to document, study and examine each and every detail of this "crater-forming" event! Carancassically, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or a find!!!!!
Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say no! Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what about the weathering grade? is this fresher than some gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices are shown in the begenning together with the larger ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did you discover it ? Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and share the results with us? I saw you used the name of CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location is correct? Mali or Algeria ? something wrong is going on here, try to find out a solution to this puzzle. That's ma thinking, Thanks Aziz --- habibi abdelaziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > steve wrote > Everyone is out to get it right away,than as > time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this > fall > is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 > per > gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But > the > > question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has > not > > even been determined yet what it is.Again any > thoughts > ... > . > > well steve , > if the price of te new fall continue in this trend > than the limit of f(X), > goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new > mali > falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi > de > suite, etc > so steve you should wait and in a week not more , > morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos ( > - > 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the new > fall and some money . > every body should wait. > but it's not my cases. > i take you for your words someone offered you the > new > fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; > so here you have a chance steve to make some money. > please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. > can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are > this > stones ;.. > so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the photo > of > this meteorite.and what was offered to you for this > price. > im waiting > aziz > > > > > > > > habibi aziz > box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco > phone. 21235576145 > fax.21235576170 > > > > _ > > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez > vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or a find!!!!!
Hence my advice to Steve to wait until these questions are resolved. Less than 10 kilos of Carancas made it out of the crater unspoiled. The rest, up to 10 tons by scientific calculations, it under sewer water for more than one month, meaning DESTROYED for most purposes, and Peru wants it as a tourist attraction, so I would not hold my breath waiting to see the main mass of Carancas on ebay anytime soon. Michael Farmer --- Abdelaziz Alhyane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everybody, > Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is > selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this > is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from > space, do not talk about crater smoke This new > (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is > selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? > why > to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or > just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not > try try to correct a mistake and say anything in > order > to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper > from > a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his > 1000 boxes. > A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, > and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( > Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say > no! > Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what > about the weathering grade? is this fresher than > some > gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices > are shown in the begenning together with the larger > ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. > For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you > that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did > you > discover it ? > Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and > share > the results with us? I saw you used the name of > CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location > is correct? Mali or Algeria ? > something wrong is going on here, try to find out a > solution to this puzzle. > That's ma thinking, > Thanks > Aziz > > > > > > > --- habibi abdelaziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > steve wrote > > Everyone is out to get it right away,than as > > time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this > > fall > > is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 > > per > > gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But > > the > > > > question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has > > not > > > > even been determined yet what it is.Again any > > thoughts > > ... > > . > > > > well steve , > > if the price of te new fall continue in this trend > > than the limit of f(X), > > goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new > > mali > > falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi > > de > > suite, etc > > so steve you should wait and in a week not more , > > morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos > ( > > - > > 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the > new > > fall and some money . > > every body should wait. > > but it's not my cases. > > i take you for your words someone offered you the > > new > > fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; > > so here you have a chance steve to make some > money. > > please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. > > can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are > > this > > stones ;.. > > so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the > photo > > of > > this meteorite.and what was offered to you for > this > > price. > > im waiting > > aziz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > habibi aziz > > box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco > > phone. 21235576145 > > fax.21235576170 > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez > > vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small > Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind!!!!!
Hello Aziz, I have heard the two different names referring to the Mali material also. Is the material found in both "regions" or was it seen entering the atmosphere in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "habibi abdelaziz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind! Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say no! Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what about the weathering grade? is this fresher than some gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices are shown in the begenning together with the larger ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did you discover it ? Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and share the results with us? I saw you used the name of CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location is correct? Mali or Algeria ? something wrong is going on here, try to find out a solution to this puzzle. That's ma thinking, Thanks Aziz --- habibi abdelaziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: steve wrote Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts ... . well steve , if the price of te new fall continue in this trend than the limit of f(X), goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new mali falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi de suite, etc so steve you should wait and in a week not more , morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos ( - 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the new fall and some money . every body should wait. but it's not my cases. i take you for your words someone offered you the new fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; so here you have a chance steve to make some money. please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are this stones ;.. so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the photo of this meteorite.and what was offered to you for this price. im waiting aziz habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com h
[meteorite-list] Digital microscopy on the cheap
Having not been able to find reviews of USB digital microscopes like this one: http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/usb-digital-microscope-with-13-m-pixel-resolution-video-clips/ I decided to bite the bullet and buy one and do my own testing. Mine arrived today, and I have just started to play with it. The results are, as expected, not comparable with what you would get spending several hundred to a few thousand on a mid- to high end microscope and CCD camera, but they are pretty good for something costing just 70 bucks. Here are a couple of samples. Some or all of them have had some post-processing work done in an image editing application. This chondrule is in an NWA 869, and seems to have had an eventful history. First it became what I call a "Pac-Man" chondrule, which might have been caused by collision with another chondrule while still soft, or might have been caused by a blob of metal accumulatiing in a drop and then seperating. Then it became bullseye chondrule. Then, at some point after that, it seems to have been distorted or broken again, displacing the two edges of the bleached rim. This photo is the best I've managed before, the full resolution of my flatbed scanner at 1600 dpi: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/chondrule_flatbed.jpg This is the USB microscope at the mid-range of it's magnification: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/chondrule_partmagnification.jpg And this is the full range of the magnification: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/chondrule_fullmagnification.jpg This is just one of many chondrules that I plan on visiting in my slice of NWA 987: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/chondrule7_tweaked.jpg More photos to come later. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Digital microscopy on the cheap
Thanks for sharing, Darren! This chondrule is definitely worth revisiting! http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/usbmicro/chondrule7_tweaked.jpg .. a whole lot of things going on within! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research
Hi, Bernd, List, You are right about the "terraced" look of the Carancas crater! It seems to show best in the earliest photos; I suspect some dirt from the rim has cascaded down the walls in the intervening days. True "terracing" only occurs in large impact craters. After formation, the walls of the crater become unstable (because they're so steep), and gravity causes them to collapse. These landslides create a "blocky" appearance, forming steps down to the crater floor. It's more common in large older craters. I believe the "terraced" appearance of the walls of the Carancas crater is due to the rocky strata in the soil being broken by the explosive excavation of the crater. The "terraces" seem to "step back" at the 30 degree angle of the crater walls. The INGEMMET summary characterizes the geology of the region as Cenozoic limestone and mentions relatively weak stones: "sedimentary rocks (molasses or red beds: siltstones, shales and slates)" There appear to be some "blocky" stones in the pictures of the fresh ejecta blanket. Mike Farmer talked about "blocks" of hard dirt landing on rooves. It's possible the two are the same (weak stone, hard dirt). Mike thinks there's a one-ton stone in the crater and the Canadian scientist Peter Brown is talking about "a ten-ton monster," while I really doubt that there's anything much to be found in the crater. I've been told by someone who was there that the Carancas stones are extremely weak, that by "pressing two together in one hand, you can crush [them] to dust." That does not sound like material that would survive any substantial impact force. Whether the event was equivalent to 1 ton of TNT, 5 tons (seismic reading), or 15-20 tons (as Peter Brown suggests) doesn't matter if they're that weak. Yes, this IS a crater worthy of study. And with every passing day, that seems less and less likely to happen. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research Hello List, After repeatedly scrutinizing the available crater pictures of the Carancas crater and trying to find out what is so exciting about it, I've come to the conclusion that it looks pretty much like the terraced walls of several lunar craters - for example: Tycho or Copernicus. While it would be (or: would have been) extremely important to retrieve the main mass at the bottom of the crater as quickly as possible, it may also be a serious mistake not to document, study and examine each and every detail of this "crater-forming" event! Carancassically, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research
Sterling wrote: "That does not sound like material that would survive any substantial impact force." Yes, that may "unfortunately" be right. Much or most of it may have been vaporized or been reduced to dust and what has been collected may be comparable to what has been found around Barringer Crater (Coone Butte) where any search for the main mass down in the crater has so far remained futile! .. sayeth Bernd who meanwhile owns two small but representative pieces of that noteworthy meteorite ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind!!!!!
Hi Greg, because in an earlier email you had stated that you or >someone you referred to had sent the sample in. Your not going to borrow someone else's NWA number, are you? Sorry, just had to ask :-) -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hello Aziz, I have heard the two different names referring to the Mali material also. Is the material found in both "regions" or was it seen entering the atmosphere in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "habibi abdelaziz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind! Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say no! Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what about the weathering grade? is this fresher than some gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices are shown in the begenning together with the larger ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did you discover it ? Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and share the results with us? I saw you used the name of CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location is correct? Mali or Algeria ? something wrong is going on here, try to find out a solution to this puzzle. That's ma thinking, Thanks Aziz --- habibi abdelaziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: steve wrote Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts ... . well steve , if the price of te new fall continue in this trend than the limit of f(X), goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new mali falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi de suite, etc so steve you should wait and in a week not more , morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos ( - 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the new fall and some money . every body should wait. but it's not my cases. i take you for your words someone offered you the new fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; so here you have a chance steve to make some money. please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are this stones ;.. so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the photo of this meteorite.and what was offered to you for this price. im waiting aziz habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NM feature is a bomb crater
List, Thank you all that offered to help check out the NM "crater" feature. It was checked out today on the ground by a list member (who wishes not to be named) and I have learned that it was caused by an accidental military bomb release. I appreciate all that offered to check. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind!!!!!
In a message dated 10/16/2007 2:57:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg There really is no reason for Moroccan (or north African) meteorites to come on the market without having been studied and classified. Not anymore. Dr. Hassna Chennaoui of the University of Casablanca is fully qualified and accredited to do that. I am sure it would be very simple and easy for anyone in Morocco to send a sample to her, and, since this service is not very well-known yet, she will probably give you a response much faster than the Musee d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris or any of the Labs in the US. Maybe you should contact her: Universite Hassan II Casablanca, Faculte des Sciences, Department de Geologie: http://www.fsac.ac.ma/depart/geo/index.html. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind!!!!!
Hi Walter, There would be no borrowing of "numbers" since it would have a name assigned. The Moroccans who post to this List and have offered some of this material to members have indicated they had sent in a sample. As Anne stated, this is the most perfect time for the Moroccans to step up and contribute to science. I can't think of a better thing to do instead of leaving it to us foreigners to do it for them. They have the resources now, I strongly suggest they use them for the good of science and themselves. Respectfully, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hi Greg, because in an earlier email you had stated that you or >someone you referred to had sent the sample in. Your not going to borrow someone else's NWA number, are you? Sorry, just had to ask :-) -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hello Aziz, I have heard the two different names referring to the Mali material also. Is the material found in both "regions" or was it seen entering the atmosphere in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "habibi abdelaziz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind! Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say no! Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what about the weathering grade? is this fresher than some gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices are shown in the begenning together with the larger ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did you discover it ? Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and share the results with us? I saw you used the name of CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location is correct? Mali or Algeria ? something wrong is going on here, try to find out a solution to this puzzle. That's ma thinking, Thanks Aziz --- habibi abdelaziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: steve wrote Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts ... . well steve , if the price of te new fall continue in this trend than the limit of f(X), goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new mali falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi de suite, etc so steve you should wait and in a week not more , morrocan dealer will give you the stone for m
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind!!!!!
Hi Everybody, Yes, The sample was sent and the classification will be done and shared, but no that fast. no matter where one gets a meteorite identified, but the result is the most important. Regards Aziz --- Greg Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Walter, > > There would be no borrowing of "numbers" since it > would have a name > assigned. The Moroccans who post to this List and > have offered some of this > material to members have indicated they had sent in > a sample. As Anne > stated, this is the most perfect time for the > Moroccans to step up and > contribute to science. I can't think of a better > thing to do instead of > leaving it to us foreigners to do it for them. They > have the resources now, > I strongly suggest they use them for the good of > science and themselves. > > Respectfully, > Greg > > > Greg Hupe > The Hupe Collection > NaturesVault (eBay) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.LunarRock.com > IMCA 3163 > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Abdelaziz > Alhyane" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:03 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali > or Algeria a fall > orafind! > > > > Hi Greg, > > > >>because in an earlier email you had stated that > you or >someone you > >>referred to had sent the sample in. > > > > Your not going to borrow someone else's NWA > number, are you? > > > > Sorry, just had to ask :-) > > > > -Walter Branch > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on > mali or Algeria a fall > > orafind! > > > > > > Hello Aziz, > > > > I have heard the two different names referring to > the Mali material also. > > Is > > the material found in both "regions" or was it > seen entering the > > atmosphere > > in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala > was first named, and then > > another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, > this happened because > > the > > material was found in both of those areas and that > is why you will find > > Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for > that one. > > > > As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite > in, the answer is no > > because in an earlier email you had stated that > you or someone you > > referred > > to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited > amount of material and all > > was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut > for comparison reason > > to > > show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece > for their collection so > > I > > accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type > sample so we can expect > > the results. > > > > Thank you, > > Greg > > > > > > Greg Hupe > > The Hupe Collection > > NaturesVault (eBay) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.LunarRock.com > > IMCA 3163 > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Abdelaziz Alhyane" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "habibi abdelaziz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on > mali or Algeria a fall or > > afind! > > > > > > Hello Everybody, > > Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is > > selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, > this > > is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from > > space, do not talk about crater smoke This > new > > (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which > is > > selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? > why > > to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or > > just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do > not > > try try to correct a mistake and say anything in > order > > to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper > from > > a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his > > 1000 boxes. > > A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw > it, > > and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( > > Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say > no! > > Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! > what > > about the weathering grade? is this fresher than > some > > gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small > peices > > are shown in the begenning together with the > larger > > ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. > > For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told > you > > that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did > you > > discover it ? > > Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and > share > > the results with us? I saw you used the name of > > CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which > location > > is correct? Mali or Algeria ? > > something wrong is going on here, try to find out > a > > solution to this puzzle. > > That's ma thinking, > > T
[meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca Meteoorite fall in Peru????
Good evening, Mr. Gregory, I did receive the two photos you sent me following my winning bid of your eBay auction. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=300159255522&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI) I would note that the second photo you sentthe one which shows you climbing out of the crater with a few plastic bags for your "photo op"; and which you have posted to your latest auctionis disconcerting, to say the least. That crater has been the recipient of human waste, among other things--if I am properly informed. The fact that you climbed down into the crater-waste without appropriate protection speaks volumes about your professionalism in the science of meteoritics.not to mention your omnipotence. The photo of the crater you forwarded; which coincidentally you have apparently unilaterally named ("Lake Titicaca"), is not as advertised. The optical quality is quite poor, in fact--I find it difficult to believe that it is 1,200 dpi(one thousand, two hundred dpi) as I requested and, which is significantly less than the quality you advertised as possible to send. In all honesty, my three year old, 5 meg., camera would have taken a cleaner picture. Further, your eBay ad's suggestion that the photo you ultimately e-mailed me was removed from your original eBay ad (yes, I saw the ad before you removed the photoapparently concerned that some "ingenious" person might actually copy the photo) in order to maximize it's quality with your Photoshop software, is falling on deaf ears. Yes, I won your auction for next to nothing..unfortunately, was worth even less.So, to respond to your e-mail inquiry: Do I like the photos? I'm not fluent in enough languages to tell you that "NO, I AM NOT HAPPY, I FEEL TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND YES RANDY, I AM A LAWYER...FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH." No worries my friend, I'm not going to sue youOn the contrary, I happen to respect the Meteorite List members with whom you were fighting before you did us all the favor, and resigned your subscription. So NO, anticipating your next query...I will NOT represent you! PS The idea that you would charge $50.00 shipping, for a one gram specimen of any meteorite you might sell on eBay, is truly repugnant. Shame on you, Sir. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia, USA In a message dated 10/16/2007 12:27:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Let me know if you like them. Notice the trash in the crater. I waded in and cleaned it. Are you an attorney? -- Sincerely, Randall Gregory ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research
Hi, All, The notion that an impactor survives somehow to lurk beneath the floor of a crater is a pervasive and common notion that seems to have "the power to cloud men's minds" and keep them digging and drilling. Daniel Moreau Barringer, owner of the Meteor Crater, exhausted his life on the crusade to "mine" the meteorite, drilling as deep as 1400 feet into the floor of the crater. A piece on the remarkable drilling efforts Barringer undertook in the crater, by James Tobin: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~afs/feb97_1.html "The work at the Arizona crater would continue for more than two decades, even beyond Barringer's death in 1929. But, even by the time of his 1909 paper there had already been 28 holes drilled into the floor of the crater. Fourteen of these revealed nickel iron oxide material at various depths below 450 feet. At the same time the numbered shafts at the crater had already reached into the forties. Add to this the dozens of trenches and pits being dug almost constantly into the ejecta blanket and this becomes a staggering project." It's a long and fascinating article. Tobin himself is convinced that some meteoritic masses remain below the crater floor. In another fascinating article: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/February/Jims_Fragments.htm "...it is clear only a few percent of the original mass remains. Most of the asteroid was indeed vaporized, later condensing to form the billions of small spheres found in the soil around the crater. Barringer and Tilghman knew about the spheres from the beginning of their work. But, thought them to be tiny droplets that streamed from the burning asteroid as it plunged through the atmosphere. Even as evidence mounted that the asteroid could not have survived intact, Barringer found ways to think it was there." In 1938, even Time magazine had an opinion on the formation of Meteor Crater! Here's a fascinating look at how little was known of craters, meteorites, and impacts back then: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,931100,00.html Here's what they thought the mechanism of crater formation was: "the monstrous cluster [of meteors] plunged into the desert, converted underground water into steam, hurled huge gobs of earth and stone skyward to fall back into the crater." This in an article about investors that were still scheming to recover the "millions of tons" of precious meteorite buried under the crater. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Scientific Value of Carancas Crater Research Sterling wrote: "That does not sound like material that would survive any substantial impact force." Yes, that may "unfortunately" be right. Much or most of it may have been vaporized or been reduced to dust and what has been collected may be comparable to what has been found around Barringer Crater (Coone Butte) where any search for the main mass down in the crater has so far remained futile! .. sayeth Bernd who meanwhile owns two small but representative pieces of that noteworthy meteorite ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Peru Again!! Ubinas, Peru volcanic bomb block crater- Smithsonian Institution-INGEMMET study
Hi List, Thought some of you might be interested in seeing another crater in Peru. Take a look at the photo page at least! Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Main Page: http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/bulletin/contents.cfm?issue=3110&display=complete Photo: http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcanoes/region15/peru/ubinas/3110ubi7.jpg Figure 14. Ubinas eruptions in May 2006 ejected volcanic bombs, seen here in their impact craters. A 2-m-diameter bomb (top), struck ~ 200 m from the crater. A crater containing a large, partly buried, smooth-faced bomb is seen in the bottom photo. Numerous bucket-sized angular blocks appear on the far side of the impact crater. Two geologists stand adjacent a ~ 2-m-long block that ended up on the impact crater's rim. The bomb fragments were of andesitic composition. Top photo from Salazar and others (2006); bottom photo from INGEMMET website. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Auctions Ending Tomorrow, Check out the highlighted Ones!
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:19 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Auctions Ending Tomorrow, Check out the highlighted Ones! Hello, I think I have put out some nice items this week for auction. Please check out the highlights below. Also, a small sale running inside my ebay store. Go to: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History With Only 43.1 grams (TKW) this Australian Meteorite is a rarity, check out the LAUNDRY EAST Specimen up for Auction. More in my store too! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703798 Rare Witnessed Fall, BARWELL, England. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703802 A very Rare Achondrite, NWA 2635, 4.13 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703853 NWA 4300, H5, A 129.80 gram Specimen, still inexpensive! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703860 Super Rare, and an excellent slice with incredible features! A 13.6 gram inspiration. NWA 978, R3.8 ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161710004 The American Mesosiderite ESTHERVILLE, A really, really nice slice! Also, A Witnessed Fall! 5.14 grams. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161708135 A Galaxy of Chondrules and inclusions in this 25.28 gram slice of SAU 001. One of the coolest from this meteorite. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703882 Look at this metal nodule in this Mesosiderite specimen! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703871 A porous and chondrule rich LL5, NWA 2380, 51.31 gram slice. Worth having a look! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161719853 A Howardite Classic, NWA 2696, 5.52 gram slice, check out the inclusion. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703829 A nice Eucrite Slice, NWA 2690, 4.65 gram. I love this meteorite! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200161703818 Also many, many other great items Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peru Again!! Ubinas, Peru volcanic bomb block crater- Smithsonian Institution-INGEMMETstudy
Hi, Dirk, List, The picture of the 2-meter "bomb" shows there no distinction between an impact pit (which is what this is) and a true crater, formed by an explosion. The shape (but not the size) is the same for both. The object's mass is up to 10 tons, but the velocity was low, probably no more than 100 m/sec (depends on how high it was tossed out of the volacano). A "pit" is a low-energy event; a crater is not, but the shape's the same. The geometry of the pit or crater is very close to that perfect conical shape of the mathematical crater models with their 3:1 width-to-depth. But since it's the energy that determines the crater, you could have gotten the same crater that was produced by ten tons at 100 m/sec with 100 kilos at 1000 m/sec, or 1 kilo at 10,000 m/sec. It's a picture like this that demonstrates the true silliness of the idea that a "ten-ton monster" is hiding in the Carancas crater. The URL's a picture of a ten-meter crater (OK, pit) with a ten ton impactor sitting in it. Does it look to you like it's hiding? I think we'd have noticed a ten-monster in Carancas... if it was intact! Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Peru Again!! Ubinas,Peru volcanic bomb block crater- Smithsonian Institution-INGEMMETstudy Hi List, Thought some of you might be interested in seeing another crater in Peru. Take a look at the photo page at least! Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Main Page: http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/bulletin/contents.cfm?issue=3110&display=complete Photo: http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcanoes/region15/peru/ubinas/3110ubi7.jpg Figure 14. Ubinas eruptions in May 2006 ejected volcanic bombs, seen here in their impact craters. A 2-m-diameter bomb (top), struck ~ 200 m from the crater. A crater containing a large, partly buried, smooth-faced bomb is seen in the bottom photo. Numerous bucket-sized angular blocks appear on the far side of the impact crater. Two geologists stand adjacent a ~ 2-m-long block that ended up on the impact crater's rim. The bomb fragments were of andesitic composition. Top photo from Salazar and others (2006); bottom photo from INGEMMET website. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] the mali meteorite
Well with all the discussion going on about this new meteorite,it is nice to see the ball rolling finally.It was stated that it takes time to classify a meteorite?Most of the time it is true.But I remember park forest being classified in less than 2 months.But with all these kilo's arriving on everyones door step worldwide,it will be interesting to see what it really is.Like I saw in an earlier post,I guess at Munich alot will be cleared up about this new fall.I also decided to save my pennies on this till we know more.After great advice from many listee's (and thanks).I decided to buy a 286 gram sikote-alin from jim strope instead.By far the best SA'S out there.Thanks again jim on a great deal.But once the smoke clears,I look forward on getting a piece of this new stone. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peru Again!! Ubinas, Peru volcanic bomb block crater- Smithsonian Institution-INGEMMETstudy
Hi Sterling and List, Sterling has hit the nail exactly on the head! No or little impactor was left in the crater. They will still finishing messing up the Carancas impact crater anyway or the rain will finish it off, either way it is likely gone Happy always to read your posts. I was lucky to just find these photos tonight while searching for HE bomb craters in Osaka. No satellite imagery data has been located of the Carancas impact crater following the event, too bad. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Dirk, List, > > The picture of the 2-meter "bomb" shows there > no distinction between an impact pit (which is what > this is) and a true crater, formed by an explosion. > The shape (but not the size) is the same for both. > The object's mass is up to 10 tons, but the velocity > was low, probably no more than 100 m/sec (depends > on how high it was tossed out of the volacano). A > "pit" is a low-energy event; a crater is not, but > the > shape's the same. > > The geometry of the pit or crater is very close > to that perfect conical shape of the mathematical > crater models with their 3:1 width-to-depth. But > since > it's the energy that determines the crater, you > could > have gotten the same crater that was produced by > ten tons at 100 m/sec with 100 kilos at 1000 m/sec, > or 1 kilo at 10,000 m/sec. > > It's a picture like this that demonstrates the > true > silliness of the idea that a "ten-ton monster" is > hiding > in the Carancas crater. The URL's a picture of a > ten-meter crater (OK, pit) with a ten ton impactor > sitting in it. Does it look to you like it's hiding? > I think > we'd have noticed a ten-monster in Carancas... if it > was intact! > > > Sterling K. Webb > - > - Original Message - > From: "drtanuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:01 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Peru Again!! Ubinas,Peru > volcanic bomb block > crater- Smithsonian Institution-INGEMMETstudy > > > Hi List, > Thought some of you might be interested in seeing > another crater in Peru. Take a look at the photo > page > at least! Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo > > > Main Page: > http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/bulletin/contents.cfm?issue=3110&display=complete > > > Photo: > > http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcanoes/region15/peru/ubinas/3110ubi7.jpg > > Figure 14. Ubinas eruptions in May 2006 ejected > volcanic bombs, seen here in their impact craters. A > 2-m-diameter bomb (top), struck ~ 200 m from the > crater. A crater containing a large, partly buried, > smooth-faced bomb is seen in the bottom photo. > Numerous bucket-sized angular blocks appear on the > far > side of the impact crater. Two geologists stand > adjacent a ~ 2-m-long block that ended up on the > impact crater's rim. The bomb fragments were of > andesitic composition. Top photo from Salazar and > others (2006); bottom photo from INGEMMET website. > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Urget request for gas studies for Mali/Algeria and other 2007 falls fast results-(one -twomonths)s
List, Please contact me as soon as possible; URGENT. Full classification can also be done quickly in Japan by Univ and government institutional labs.. Please contact me ASAP,so that lab time can be quickly arranged. Thank you. Please wrap in Aluminum and place in sealed container ASAP. If you require more info for samples sizes please kindly contact me. Best Regards, dirk ross...Tokyo Planetary Data, Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca Meteoorite fall in Peru????
If you had any clue as to the horrible emails this guy was sending me, you would not get involved with this crackpot. I have received more than 10 to 15 emails per day for the last two weeks, either threats, insults, or invites to be his friend and work with him. There are definitely some screws loose up there. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Good evening, Mr. Gregory, > > I did receive the two photos you sent me following > my winning bid of your > eBay auction. > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=300159255522&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI) > > I would note that the second photo you sentthe > one which shows you > climbing out of the crater with a few plastic bags > for your "photo op"; and which > you have posted to your latest auctionis > disconcerting, to say the least. > That crater has been the recipient of human waste, > among other things--if I > am properly informed. The fact that you climbed > down into the crater-waste > without appropriate protection speaks volumes about > your professionalism in > the science of meteoritics.not to mention your > omnipotence. > > The photo of the crater you forwarded; which > coincidentally you have > apparently unilaterally named ("Lake Titicaca"), is > not as advertised. The optical > quality is quite poor, in fact--I find it difficult > to believe that it is > 1,200 dpi(one thousand, two hundred dpi) as I > requested and, which is > significantly less than the quality you advertised > as possible to send. In all > honesty, my three year old, 5 meg., camera would > have taken a cleaner picture. > > Further, your eBay ad's suggestion that the photo > you ultimately e-mailed me > was removed from your original eBay ad (yes, I saw > the ad before you removed > the photoapparently concerned that some > "ingenious" person might > actually copy the photo) in order to maximize it's > quality with your Photoshop > software, is falling on deaf ears. > > Yes, I won your auction for next to > nothing..unfortunately, was worth > even less.So, to respond to your e-mail inquiry: > Do I like the photos? I'm > not fluent in enough languages to tell you that > "NO, I AM NOT HAPPY, I FEEL > TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND YES RANDY, I AM A > LAWYER...FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH." > > No worries my friend, I'm not going to sue > youOn the contrary, I happen > to respect the Meteorite List members with whom you > were fighting before you > did us all the favor, and resigned your > subscription. So NO, anticipating > your next query...I will NOT represent you! > > PS The idea that you would charge $50.00 shipping, > for a one gram specimen > of any meteorite you might sell on eBay, is truly > repugnant. Shame on you, > Sir. > > Best regards, > > Paul Martyn > Savannah, Georgia, USA > > > In a message dated 10/16/2007 12:27:00 P.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Hi, > > Let me know if you like them. Notice the trash in > the crater. I waded in and > cleaned it. > > > Are you an attorney? > > -- > Sincerely, > > Randall Gregory > > > > > > > ** See what's > new at http://www.aol.com > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Carancas vs. Canyon Diablo?
Hi Sterling, I am little perplexed why you persist in comparing the Peru event to Meteor[ite] Crater, when the two events share very little in common other than an extraterrestrial origin. The energies involved are many orders of magnitude apart; without pulling out a hand calculator I would guess that Park Forest was a closer match to Carancas than Canyon Diablo. For me, there is nothing about the dimensions of the impact pit (I refuse to call it a crater) that precludes a significant mass of meteoritic material buried within. Yes, this mass is likely in many pieces, but I don't see how the collective can avoid weighing less than a metric ton. You seem to believe that hitting the ground was somehow more stressful to this meteoroid than hitting the upper atmosphere. If so, that would be a first. Best wishes, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list