[meteorite-list] Re : debat , , monzogabbro /dolerite/ mare basalt/ lunar.
salut zelimir,and bonjour les listoides. about the TKW of nwa 4734 = 477 habibi +895 oumama+ stefan ralew 40 gr or so. total =1412 gr. the stone is complete , so nothing missing, .you can see photo on oumama link. on the pairing 25000km apart they should studies isotope of the two meteorite to see if they have the same ages , in space , and also the same ages in earth. so to do that needs collaboration from the arctic team who ever owned the lap specimen and the nwa4734. two sample from this two stone must be studies and compared to establish the launch-pairing. and here i ask who is doing studies of ages in spaces an earth , is it always dr kisushumi, and for any simple guy ,to see the photo of the two stone you will say they are the same paired. * outside all this fiction , those stone are among the best lunar that i have seen , many collector have slice or sample and they are very pretty and under microscope it's jewelry. so the fact that many scientist didn't arrive to a compromise to give here a name satisfies my curiosity. the first time i have seen this lunar , i sad this is shergotite, than once in my office under microscope i change completely the done. and spent two month dreaming. and i m still dreaming. all the best aziz habibi font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40; face=comic sans mshabibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font - Message d'origine De : Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc : habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé le : Mardi, 22 Janvier 2008, 17h39mn 16s Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] debat , , monzogabbro /dolerite/ mare basalt/ lunar. Hi Aziz, Martin, Very interesting reading! I have a couple of comments/questions though: A) Comments: 1) Among the possible pairings cited in the web reference (and Met. Bull) reported by Aziz, the NWA 773 is a norite and (from the pics in Met. Bull.) has a slightly different texture than NWA 4734 (this latter obviously shows more pronounced/distinct phenoclasts). 2) LAP 02234, also cited as possibly paired, should be wrong (mistyping ?) as it is a LL6 (Met. Bull.) B) My questions concerns the tkw: 1) The tkw as in Met. Bull. is reported as being of 477 g (Aziz's piece). Why the are the 895 g that are with Oumama ignoired in this total ? 2) On the other hand, Martin reported that the tkw of his NWA 4734 (that was offered for sale by end 2007) was of 1439 g, a weight (mass) that does not correspond to the above cumulated total of 1372 g On the other hand, I agree that, before any firther detailed study of the LAP samples, one should neither add their masses to the tkw of NWA 4734, nor should be added those of NWA 032 or NWA 479 that, at least according to the pics, obviously exhibit the very same texture (see pics in Met. Bull.), but the question of the tkw of the sole NWA 4734 still remains open. As noted by the comment of Albert Jambon to Aziz, the most puzzling enigma would be to explain how rocks found 25,000 km apart, that by all means have a quasi identical texture (see the LAP pics in Met. Bull.) can be paired. I foresee an interesting folow-up in the future investigations... Any firther comment or answer ? Thanks and best wishes to all, Zelimir A 14:45 22/01/2008 +0100, Martin Altmann a écrit : Hi Aziz, as shown on the pages of the links, you gave here, the chemistry is more or less identical with the LaPaz-pairing-group and NWA 032/479. And the texture is the very same like the texture of the LAP-Moons. So from my amateurish point of view, I could imagine, that NWA 4734 could end with the same designation fo the type, as the LAP-group has in the Bulletins: Lunar (basalt). However. It's exciting material, isn't it? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von habibi abdelaziz Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Januar 2008 13:56 An: meteorite list Betreff: [meteorite-list] debat , ,monzogabbro /dolerite/ mare basalt/ lunar. hello list members , well , i get just yet an email , about nwa 4734 classification obtain =lunar. not definitive il ya a parler. 1= witch other stone stone is called only lunar,without suite;? 2= first this stone was called monzogabbro than , American scientist call it mare basalt, 3= than there was a proposition for dolerite 4= the nomcom didn't retain any of this for the fact that there is not compromise they say it's a lunar and stop the issue is not finish, 5= American scientist are talking about launch-pairing from ejecta, in other terms a paring from the moon from the crater, with lap 02205-02224-02226-02234-02436-03632 6= http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/nwa4734.htm http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/chemclass/chemclass_lap02205.htm http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/sets/72157602531819147/ 7=i m happy with my half kilos lunar what
[meteorite-list] New Paper on Permian Extinctions
The Journal of Geology has just published a new paper on Permian extinctions. It is: Retallack, G. J., and A. H. Jahren, 2008, Methane Release from Igneous Intrusion of Coal during Late Permian Extinction Events Journal of Geology. vol. 116, no. 1, pp. 1-20. http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/524120 Abstract Unusually large and locally variable carbon isotope excursions coincident with mass extinctions at the end of the Permian Period (253 Ma) and Guadalupian Epoch (260 Ma) can be attributed to methane outbursts to the atmosphere. Methane has isotopic values (δ13C) low enough to reduce to feasible amounts the carbon required for isotopic mass balance. The duration of the carbon isotopic excursions and inferred methane releases are here constrained to 10,000 yr by counting annual varves in lake deposits and by estimating peat accumulation rates. On paleogeographic maps, the most marked carbon isotope excursions form linear arrays back to plausible methane sources: end-Permian Siberian Traps and Longwood-Bluff intrusions of New Zealand and end-Guadalupian Emeishan Traps of China. Intrusion of coal seams by feeder dikes to flood basalts could create successive thermogenic methane outbursts of the observed timing and magnitude, but these are unreasonably short times for replenishment of marine or permafrost sources of methane. Methane released by fracturing and heating of coal during intrusion of large igneous provinces may have been a planetary hazard comparable with bolide impact Yours, Paul Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
Here's what we'll be hearing about from the conspiracy theory nuts for the next couple of decades. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324800,00.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
Hello all Well!! for one opinion, I believe its the Engineer and train wreck parts from the Franconia Strewn Field. Some believe the accident material traveled a great distance. Wayne www.meteoritesrock.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Del and Dustin score at a California Dry Lake bed!
Hi all, A couple of friends of mine had some luck this past weekend in California. Its a great story- take a look. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/delanddustinscore.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
If it's an alien, it's a /very small//alien: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/207495main_Spirit.jpg (you can just make it out bottom left) wayne holmes wrote: Hello all Well!! for one opinion, I believe its the Engineer and train wreck parts from the Franconia Strewn Field. Some believe the accident material traveled a great distance. Wayne -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 4734
Hi Aziz, Martin, list Nice that some of you could confirm that all NWA 4734 fragments belong to one single stone and that the so far known total weight should be indeed around 1412 g (or 1417 or 1422 g, depending if the Heirs' fragment was 40 or 44.5 or 50 g). For the pairing affair, I roughly agree with Aziz and believe that scientists would consider further investigations in that direction as this really seems to be of interest. I also received yesterday night (my time) a mail from Mbark Ait Lakid (also nicknamed Oumama), in French, that I wish to send to the list as such, as per his request, after my most reliable translation (my additional comments or guesses are between brackets): - Dear Zelimir, I am Mbark Ait Lkaid (nicknamed Oumama). Thank you for your interest regarding NWA 4734; let me tell you the real story about this meteorite: I received 477 g (of that stone) that I sold to Habibi. Then I further received another 895 g. Habibi sent 20 g to (Albert) Jambon and its provisional classification (NB: as I understand, performed by Jambon) resulted in the (provisional) name NWA 4683. Jambon knew that I owed the 895 g mass and visited me. I then offered him 20 g for the classification of these 895 g. As it dealt with the very same stone, he (Jambon) made one single classification and named both stones NWA 4734. I was really surprised last week to read that the NomCom reported in Met. Bull. does not mention that this further mass (895 g) was also analyzed, but just stated that several other pieces of the same stone are with M. Oumama in Rissani... The 44.5 g that Chladni's (Heirs) purchased come from another dealer. As a result, 2 big mistakes clearly remain, thus the (officially reported) tkw (477 g instead of 1372 g) and the purchase place (Erfoud versus Rissani). I hope my above statings could clear to some extent this issue. I have no access to the mailing list so please could you inform the meteoritical community about these facts so that they appear more clear to all... Respectfully, Mbark --- I can't add anything else but just note that Mbark's report confirms the statements of Martin and Aziz. Perhaps should one suggest the NomCom (Jeff ?) possibly takes into account these remarks for a future correction of the Met. Bull. text regarding NWA 4734. Best wishes, Zelimir NB: heredown is the original mail received from Mbark Ait Lkaid, in French: - Bonsoir Dr.zelimir, je suis mbark ait lkaid (mon surnom est mbark oumama). merci pour l'interet que vous avez envers la nwa 4734. je vais te raconter l'histoire reelle de cette météorite.: j'ai reçu 477gr que j'ai vendus à Habibi puis j'ai reçu les autres pièces faisant 895gr. Habibi a envoyé 20gr à Jambon et la classification provisoire était sous nwa 4683. Jambon a su que je possède les 895gr et il m'a rendu visite .j'ai lui offert 20gr pour une classification de 895. et puisqu'il s'agit du meme caillou il a fait une seule classification sous la nwa 4734. je suis vraiment surpris la semaine denière quant j'ai vu au MB que la nomcom ne declare pas au titre la masse analysé pourtant ils la glisset entre ligne en utilisant juste mon surnom. les 44.5gr de chladni's est achetés d'un autre marchand. donc deux grandes fautes sont bien claires : la masse (477gr/1372gr) et le lieu de vente(Erfoud/Rissani). j'éspère que j'ai pu eclaicir l'affaire un peu. j'ai pas acccés au mailling list.et je vous demande si vous le voulez bien de renseigner la communauté météoritiques de ces faits pour toous sois claire. respect, mbark - A 06:03 23/01/2008 -0800, habibi abdelaziz a écrit : salut zelimir,and bonjour les listoides. about the TKW of nwa 4734 = 477 habibi +895 oumama+ stefan ralew 40 gr or so. total =1412 gr. the stone is complete , so nothing missing, .you can see photo on oumama link. on the pairing 25000km apart they should studies isotope of the two meteorite to see if they have the same ages , in space , and also the same ages in earth. so to do that needs collaboration from the arctic team who ever owned the lap specimen and the nwa4734. two sample from this two stone must be studies and compared to establish the launch-pairing. and here i ask who is doing studies of ages in spaces an earth , is it always dr kisushumi, and for any simple guy ,to see the photo of the two stone you will say they are the same paired. * outside all this fiction , those stone are among the best lunar that i have seen , many collector have slice or sample and they are very pretty and under microscope it's jewelry. so the fact that many scientist didn't arrive to a compromise to give here a name satisfies my curiosity. the first time i have seen this lunar , i sad this is shergotite, than once in my office under microscope i change completely the done. and spent two month dreaming. and i m still dreaming. all the best aziz habibi font
[meteorite-list] NWA 4734
Sorry if this comes twice... Z --- Hi Aziz, Martin, list Nice that some of you could confirm that all NWA 4734 fragments belong to one single stone and that the so far known total weight should be indeed around 1412 g (or 1417 or 1422 g, depending if the Heirs' fragment was 40 or 44.5 or 50 g). For the pairing affair, I roughly agree with Aziz and believe that scientists would consider further investigations in that direction as this really seems to be of interest. I also received yesterday night (my time) a mail from Mbark Ait Lakid (also nicknamed Oumama), in French, that I wish to send to the list as such, as per his request, after my most reliable translation (my additional comments or guesses are between brackets): - Dear Zelimir, I am Mbark Ait Lkaid (nicknamed Oumama). Thank you for your interest regarding NWA 4734; let me tell you the real story about this meteorite: I received 477 g (of that stone) that I sold to Habibi. Then I further received another 895 g. Habibi sent 20 g to (Albert) Jambon and its provisional classification (NB: as I understand, performed by Jambon) resulted in the (provisional) name NWA 4683. Jambon knew that I owed the 895 g mass and visited me. I then offered him 20 g for the classification of these 895 g. As it dealt with the very same stone, he (Jambon) made one single classification and named both stones NWA 4734. I was really surprised last week to read that the NomCom reported in Met. Bull. does not mention that this further mass (895 g) was also analyzed, but just stated that several other pieces of the same stone are with M. Oumama in Rissani... The 44.5 g that Chladni's (Heirs) purchased come from another dealer. As a result, 2 big mistakes clearly remain, thus the (officially reported) tkw (477 g instead of 1372 g) and the purchase place (Erfoud versus Rissani). I hope my above statings could clear to some extent this issue. I have no access to the mailing list so please could you inform the meteoritical community about these facts so that they appear more clear to all... Respectfully, Mbark --- I can't add anything else but just note that Mbark's report confirms the statements of Martin and Aziz. Perhaps should one suggest the NomCom (Jeff ?) possibly takes into account these remarks for a future correction of the Met. Bull. text regarding NWA 4734. Best wishes, Zelimir NB: heredown is the original mail received from Mbark Ait Lkaid, in French: - Bonsoir Dr.zelimir, je suis mbark ait lkaid (mon surnom est mbark oumama). merci pour l'interet que vous avez envers la nwa 4734. je vais te raconter l'histoire reelle de cette météorite.: j'ai reçu 477gr que j'ai vendus à Habibi puis j'ai reçu les autres pièces faisant 895gr. Habibi a envoyé 20gr à Jambon et la classification provisoire était sous nwa 4683. Jambon a su que je possède les 895gr et il m'a rendu visite .j'ai lui offert 20gr pour une classification de 895. et puisqu'il s'agit du meme caillou il a fait une seule classification sous la nwa 4734. je suis vraiment surpris la semaine denière quant j'ai vu au MB que la nomcom ne declare pas au titre la masse analysé pourtant ils la glisset entre ligne en utilisant juste mon surnom. les 44.5gr de chladni's est achetés d'un autre marchand. donc deux grandes fautes sont bien claires : la masse (477gr/1372gr) et le lieu de vente(Erfoud/Rissani). j'éspère que j'ai pu eclaicir l'affaire un peu. j'ai pas acccés au mailling list.et je vous demande si vous le voulez bien de renseigner la communauté météoritiques de ces faits pour toous sois claire. respect, mbark - A 06:03 23/01/2008 -0800, habibi abdelaziz a écrit : salut zelimir,and bonjour les listoides. about the TKW of nwa 4734 = 477 habibi +895 oumama+ stefan ralew 40 gr or so. total =1412 gr. the stone is complete , so nothing missing, .you can see photo on oumama link. on the pairing 25000km apart they should studies isotope of the two meteorite to see if they have the same ages , in space , and also the same ages in earth. so to do that needs collaboration from the arctic team who ever owned the lap specimen and the nwa4734. two sample from this two stone must be studies and compared to establish the launch-pairing. and here i ask who is doing studies of ages in spaces an earth , is it always dr kisushumi, and for any simple guy ,to see the photo of the two stone you will say they are the same paired. * outside all this fiction , those stone are among the best lunar that i have seen , many collector have slice or sample and they are very pretty and under microscope it's jewelry. so the fact that many scientist didn't arrive to a compromise to give here a name satisfies my curiosity. the first time i have seen this lunar , i sad this is shergotite, than once in my office under microscope i change completely the done. and spent two month dreaming. and i m still dreaming.
Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite????
Hi Pete and all, Perhaps with the Messenger Mission we'll be able to narrow down and know more accurately what a Mercurian Meteorite is made of. While we sample many specimens from the asteroid belt, there is no doubt many more asteroids we don't sample and may represent unique types that we have never seen, seen only once or wait to be discovered. Perhaps left overs from worlds that were forming only to be destroyed by a major impact with another larger body or even planetismo. I am sure, waiting out in various parts of the solar system, are surprises that will boggle scientific minds if and when they are found. In the mean time some of the unique specimens in our collections that don't seem to make sense could be remnants from some of the earliest collisions in our system and who knows if there might not be left overs from first generation stars. I think that Weir's page defines well what to look for as does McSween book Meteorite and their Parent Planets. My best to all. --AL Mitterling Peter A Shugar wrote: So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ending - Pre Tucson Extravaganza Offers - AD
Dear List Members, I am back from a short expedition and have a huge amount of Museum Quality rarities and others starting to end on eBay in just 90 minutes and through the next five hours. They all have the Buy it Now feature, and if that still isn't the deal you are looking for, the opening asking price is a great option to bid on before someone beats you to it waiting for a good last minute bargain, AND if those prices are still not to your wishes, I am considering offers on all of the pieces currently on eBay, so if it does not sell, send me an email with an offer and I will let you know if I can accept it. Don't forget about my offer to provide good payment plan options if needed or desired! To see all that I have listed, click here (Take a look, well worth it even if you are not in the market at this time): http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Be sure to check out my new and TRUE Aubrite NWA 4799. I am offering a 100% Money Back Guarantee on it that it will remain as an Aubrite classification. I feel I must offer this because of the EL3 which at first was classified as an aubrite and then later chondrules were found, making it an EL3. This will not be the case with NWA 4799, it is Northwest Africa's first TRUE aubrite. These will be ending first and the TKW is not much and the very best specimens are currently on eBay. This is one fantastic meteorite and all NWA 4799 pieces can be seen here (be sure to look at all of the other material available also after viewing these): http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1dfsp=1from=R10_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4799%22sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifftrt=1ftrv=1saprclo=saprchi=fsop=1fsoo=1 Here is the list of different specimens that are currently available on eBay in the order they will be ending, with a mingling of others at the end of list: NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite classification, already priced the best I can do!) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces, make that 11 left!!) NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795) NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list) NWA 1068 Shergottite NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left) NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!) NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous) NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!) NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful) NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011) NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking) Mali Bassikounou NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots Unclassified 2-kilo Lots NWA 869 1-kilo lots Amgala (Oum Dreyga) Dhofar 950 Lunar (both eBay pieces sold but I have three more slices available if interested). Gao NWA 3160 Lunar NWA 3171 Shergottite NWA 2995 Lunar (Last but not least, two of the best slices available, one polished!) Thank you to all who have already taken advantage of these fantastic deals! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Original email to List: Dear List Members, I have just re-listed 265 eBay auctions that did not sell after the first round or more. I would like to offer List members an excellent opportunity to get exceptional material at outstanding values. All of the auctions have the Buy it Now feature, so if you see that special something, click and it is yours! If the price you see is just not good enough for you, instead of going behind closed doors to discuss discounts like at the Tucson Show, make me an offer on anything I have, and if not sold in one week, I will consider your offer, especially on the large ticket specimens. You never know, you may end up with your best deal here instead of going all the way to Tucson!! Here is a quick list of what I have listed in order of eBay appearance this week: NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite classification, already priced the best I can do!) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces) NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795) NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list) NWA 1068 Shergottite NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left) NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!) NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous) NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!) NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful) NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011) NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking) Mali Bassikounou NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots Unclassified 2-kilo Lots NWA 869 1-kilo lots Amgala (Oum Dreyga)
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
Consider the source. FOX NEWS, which is no better than the old Soviet News Agency TASS or Al-jazeera for being fair and balanced. Don --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what we'll be hearing about from the conspiracy theory nuts for the next couple of decades. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324800,00.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What Kind Of NWA Is This?
Hi List, I've got an Unclassified NWA that looks different than any other material I have in my collection. This 11 gram piece is very different than the fractured, and common desert varnished cheap stuff that I've seen. Can anyone tell me if this looks familiar? What kind of NWA is this? http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0556.jpg http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0557.jpg http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0558.jpg Thanks, Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:57:35 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Consider the source. FOX NEWS, which is no better than the old Soviet News Agency TASS or Al-jazeera for being fair and balanced. Okay, pick one of the other republishers of the article: http://news.google.com/news?hl=entab=wnned=usie=UTF-8ncl=1126772433 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What Kind Of NWA Is This?
Hello Eric, From the pictures, it's hard to tell, but I would say that it is most likely an ordinary chondrite. That said, the pictures aren't clear enough to tell for certain - to me it almost looks a little bit like a CR2, but I would only be able to tell with a) the stone in my hands or b) pictures of a cut surface. Jason On Jan 23, 2008 12:05 PM, Eric Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, I've got an Unclassified NWA that looks different than any other material I have in my collection. This 11 gram piece is very different than the fractured, and common desert varnished cheap stuff that I've seen. Can anyone tell me if this looks familiar? What kind of NWA is this? http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0556.jpg http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0557.jpg http://www.meteoritewatch.com/images/nwa/DSCN0558.jpg Thanks, Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What kind of NWA is this?
Hi Jason, Eric, List, From the pictures, it's hard to tell, but I would say that it is most likely an ordinary chondrite. That said, the pictures aren't clear enough to tell for certain - to me it almost looks a little bit like a CR2, but I would only be able to tell with the stone in my hands or pictures of a cut surface. Might also be a weathered-looking mesosiderite or a weathered acapulcoite...just a visual guess Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] QMIG Birthday !!!
Listoids Michael reckons I should belatedly announce QMIG's first birthday - website launch 15 Jan 07 from the metlist archives I know - remember to give the link or I'll get more email from Michael saying don't forget the link... http://qmig.org mirror http://qmig.net I had hoped that my website would spawn a new breed of parochially inclined websites showcasing other listoids home states - well maybe this year... Cheers __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2: Major Meteorite Feature Article
Dear Listees: Greetings all. Chilly day here in Tucson. Further to yesterday's post, I am delighted to announce that the main editorial piece in the 2008 Tucson EZ-Guide is a major new meteorite feature, entitled: Tucson is the Meteorite Capital of the World. Written and researched by EZ-Guide staff writer, lifelong Tucson show veteran, and noted Arizona silversmith, Lisa Marie Morrison, this 11-page feature includes brand-new exclusive interviews with the Tucson meteorite dealers: Haag, Killgore, Farmer, and Notkin; a tribute to the late Jim Kriegh; an overview of the Tucson meteorite scene; and many never-before-seen photographs. I believe this to be the most significant magazine feature on meteorites since the Astronomy special back in August of 2006. Here is a preview: http://www.aerolite.org/meteorite-capital.htm The Tucson EZ-Guide will be available, free of charge, at all show venues for the duration of the '08 show, starting next week. I realize that many of you who cannot make it to Tucson collect meteorite articles, and this issue is sure to become an instant collectible. I am therefore offering to mail a free copy of the book to any List members who request one, but the guide is nearly 200 pages so please reimburse me for postage. If you would like a copy, please follow these instructions exactly: (1) PayPal the correct postage amount to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - USA first class: $2.50 - Canada air mail: $4.50 - Rest of the world air mail: $9.00 These books are very expensive to produce, so let's please keep it to one per person, unless you seriously need a second copy. If so, add a couple of extra bucks postage. (2) After you've done the PayPal thing, please send me an email with your full name and mailing address in the body of the email, and FREE TUCSON GUIDE in the subject header. Even if you think I already have your address on file, please do it this way to save me time. This offer is intended for anyone who genuinely wants a copy for their personal collection. I better not see any on eBay : ) Please note: I will be mailing your copy AFTER the 2008 gem show is over. That means late February. Please do not write and bug me and ask where your copy is. We are extremely busy from now until about February 20, and I promise to get them in the mail as soon as I can, after the tents have all gone home. It'll be worth the wait. This is a terrific piece. Finally, I'd like to personally thank Melodie Farmer, Ruben Garcia, Martin Horejsi, and Marvin Killgore, all of whom went out of their way to provide great photos for this feature. And especially Lisa Marie who did a stellar job on the interviews and writing. Sincerely, Geoff N. * Aerolite Meteorites www.aerolite.org www.campometeorites.com Our current meteorite auctions on eBay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZaerolitemeteorites __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
Hi, You'll notice that the Fox piece asks Is it Bigfoot? The humanoid figure does indeed look like a Bigfoot striding along, its long arms swinging. In fact, it looks exactly like a frame (or the figure extracted from a single frame) of the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film of 1967, which purports to be the only film footage of the elusive humanoid. It does not resemble a small rock (a rock with an extended arm?) at all. I suspect a prank of some kind. This is not Mars; this is Spoof Country. How such a prank is carried out is left as an exercise for the student. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars! On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:57:35 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Consider the source. FOX NEWS, which is no better than the old Soviet News Agency TASS or Al-jazeera for being fair and balanced. Okay, pick one of the other republishers of the article: http://news.google.com/news?hl=entab=wnned=usie=UTF-8ncl=1126772433 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seismic Images Show Dinosaur-Killing Meteor Made Bigger Splas
Office of Public Affairs University of Texas at Austin P.O. Box Z Austin, TX 78713 For more information, contact: Marc Airhart, Jackson School of Geosciences 512-471-2241 January 23, 2008 Seismic Images Show Dinosaur-Killing Meteor Made Bigger Splash AUSTIN, Texas -- The most detailed three-dimensional seismic images yet of the Chicxulub crater, a mostly submerged and buried impact crater on the Mexico coast, may modify a theory explaining the extinction of 70 percent of life on Earth 65 million years ago. The Chicxulub crater was formed when an asteroid struck on the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Most scientists agree the impact played a major role in the KT Extinction Event that caused the extinction of most life on Earth, including the dinosaurs. According to Sean Gulick, a research scientist at the Institute for Geophysics at The University of Texas at Austin's Jackson School of Geosciences and principal investigator for the project, the new images reveal the asteroid landed in deeper water than previously assumed and therefore released about 6.5 times more water vapor into the atmosphere. The impact site also contained sulfur-rich sediments called evaporites, which would have reacted with water vapor to produce sulfate aerosols. According to Gulick, an increase in the atmospheric concentration of the compounds could have made the impact deadlier in two ways: by altering climate (sulfate aerosols in the upper atmosphere can have a cooling effect) and by generating acid rain (water vapor can help to flush the lower atmosphere of sulfate aerosols, causing acid rain). Earlier studies had suggested both effects might result from the impact, but to a lesser degree. The greater amount of water vapor and consequent potential increase in sulfate aerosols needs to be taken into account for models of extinction mechanisms, says Gulick. The results appear in the February 2008 print edition of the journal Nature Geosciences. An increase in acid rain might help explain why reef and surface dwelling ocean creatures were affected along with large vertebrates on land and in the sea. As it fell on the water, acid rain could have turned the oceans more acidic. There is some evidence that marine organisms more resistant to a range of pH survived while those more sensitive did not. Gulick says the mass extinction event was probably not caused by just one mechanism, but rather a combination of environmental changes acting on different time scales, in different locations. For example, many large land animals might have been baked to death within hours or days of the impact as ejected material fell from the sky, heating the atmosphere and setting off firestorms. More gradual changes in climate and acidity might have had a larger impact in the oceans. Gulick and collaborators originally set out to learn more about the trajectory of the asteroid. They had hoped the crater's structure in the subsurface would hold a tell-tale signature. Instead, the structure seemed to be most strongly shaped by the pre-impact conditions of the target site. We discovered that the shallow structure of the crater was determined much more by what the impact site was like before impact than by the trajectory of the impactor, says Gulick. If scientists can determine the trajectory, it will tell them where to look for the biggest environmental consequences of impact, because most of the hazardous, shock-heated and fast-moving material would have been thrown out of the crater downrange from the impact. Researchers at Imperial College in London are already using computer models to search for possible signatures in impact craters that could indicate trajectory regardless of the initial surface conditions at the impact site. As someone who simulates impact events using computers, this work provides valuable new constraints on both the pre-impact target structure and the final geometry of the cratered crust at Chicxulub, says Gareth Collins, a research fellow at Imperial College. Collaborators on the project included Gail Christeson of the Institute for Geophysics, Penny Barton at the University of Cambridge, Joanna Morgan and Mike Warner at Imperial College, and several graduate students. Note: The paper Importance of pre-impact crustal structure for the asymmetry of the Chicxulub impact crater can be downloaded online, http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/ngeo103.html Related Sites: * Institute for Geophysics http://www.ig.utexas.edu/ * Jackson School of Geosciences http://www.jsg.utexas.edu/ * Research at The University of Texas at Austin http://www.utexas.edu/research/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2: Major Meteorite Feature Article
Congratulations Geoff and Lisa Marie. It looks like a great article and I can't wait to read it! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 4590 Plutonic Angrite Micrographs are posted Four magnification sets!
Hi List, Paul has posted the micrographs of NWA 4590, a Plutonic Angrite to my Gallery hosted by Meteorite Times. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-class_frame.htm There are 4 sets of images in magnifications of 55, 80, 160 and 400. All were taken in cross polarized light with the addition of a 1/4 wave retardation filter (to draw out more color). They are color correct to what is viewed in the microscope and not Photoshoped. This thin section belongs to Jeff Hodges. You should take the time to check it out. Jeff had this thin made for him and it was polished to 1/4 micron on both sides. It is a polished (uncovered) thin section and is about the highest quality I have ever worked with. What a pleasure on the scope (Who needs TV?). Let me know what you think! Tom Phillips **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
I doubt it's a prank, although there's definitely a stitch line just below the object. Look closely at the full image, however. I don't think we are seeing _a_ rock (with an extended arm), but rather the exposed end of a larger rock, which extends to the right, and may be partially covered with sand. There are lots of other similar rocks in the area that are shaded on the same face (of course, they don't trigger our pattern recognition circuitry so strongly). Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars! Hi, You'll notice that the Fox piece asks Is it Bigfoot? The humanoid figure does indeed look like a Bigfoot striding along, its long arms swinging. In fact, it looks exactly like a frame (or the figure extracted from a single frame) of the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film of 1967, which purports to be the only film footage of the elusive humanoid. It does not resemble a small rock (a rock with an extended arm?) at all. I suspect a prank of some kind. This is not Mars; this is Spoof Country. How such a prank is carried out is left as an exercise for the student. Sterling K. Webb __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Life on Mars!
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:07:54 -0600, you wrote: extended arm?) at all. I suspect a prank of some kind. Only if the prankster is at NASA. Far left of the photo. Just above the damn cool layered rock formations. http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/207495main_Spirit.jpg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4590 Plutonic Angrite Micrographs are posted Four magnification sets!
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-class_frame.htm = Let me know what you think! = I was already on my way to bed because it is almost midnight here but these micrographs leave you breathless, speechless, ... beauty beyond compare!!! Wish we found such pictures in MAPS because all those colorful details are surely of the utmost scientific importance! So beautiful, so very, very beautiful! Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite??? Don't think so
Well, though I'd love angrites to be shown to be from Mercury but I've looked at some of the papers and they sit neatly within the CV3 realm for oxygen isotope and thermal metamorphosing of CV3 seems to give a pretty good approximation of angrites. I suspect angrites are not from Mercury (though angrite Tomassint [sp] gave me enough doubt to make me buy some just in case) Whatever their history, they appear to be the differentiated part of the same body the CV3 meteorites came from. I still have some of the papers saved to my HD so if anyone wants them I'll see if i can find them. Rob Mc --- Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Darren, List A 2007 paper was published in MAPS taking the other side of the Angrite-Mercury hypothesis: Hutson, M.L. and A. Ruzicka (2007) The case against Mercury as the angrite parent body. Meteoritics Planetary Science 42, Abstract #5238 Here are the ones in favor: Unique Angrite, NWA 2999: The Case For Samples From Mercury, A. Irving, S. Keuhner, D. Rumble, T. Bunch, J. Whittke, AGU, 2005 Fall Meeting, Abstract #P51A-0898 S. M. Kuehner, A. J. Irving, T. E. Bunch, J. H. Wittke, G. M. Hupé A. C. Hupé, 2006, Coronas and symplectites in plutonic angrite NWA 2999 and implications for Mercury as the angrite parent body. Abstracts of the 37th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #1344 Debate continues to exist on the matter. The truth is we have no answer at this time, only a notion of what a Mercurian meteorite might contain. One day soon we will be able to compare gasses or even samples and then we'll have a much better model. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Those angerites are pretty mercurial. http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MESSENGER Dances by Matisse
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_23_08.html MESSENGER Mission News January 23, 2008 MESSENGER Dances by Matisse As MESSENGER approached Mercury on January 14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) of the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS) snapped this image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=134 of the crater Matisse. Named for the French artist Henri Matisse, the Matisse crater was imaged during the Mariner 10 mission and is about 210 kilometers (130 miles) in diameter. Matisse crater is in the southern hemisphere and can be seen near the terminator of the planet (the line between the sunlit, day side and the dark, night side) in both the color http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=132 and single-filter, black-and-white http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?page=1gallery_id=2image_id=123 images released previously that show an overview of the entire incoming side of Mercury. On Mercury, craters are named for people, now deceased, who have made contributions to the humanities, such as artists, musicians, painters, and authors. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) oversees the official process of naming new craters and other new features discovered on bodies throughout the solar system. Scientists studying and mapping unnamed features can suggest names for consideration by the IAU. The 1,213 images taken by MESSENGER during its first flyby encounter with Mercury cover a large region of Mercury's surface previously unseen by spacecraft, revealing many new craters and other features that will need to be named. Additional information and features from MESSENGER's first flyby of Mercury are online at http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/mer_flyby1.html. MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery -class mission for NASA. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Del and Dustin score at a California Dry Lake bed!
That's a great story, Ruben! My father was out there with us last month and found this 101 gram beauty, his first meteorite find, within the first half hour...unbelievable! Check out the big smile... http://www.meteoriteassociationofgeorgia.org/Archives.htm#13 Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:51 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Del and Dustin score at a California Dry Lake bed! Hi all, A couple of friends of mine had some luck this past weekend in California. Its a great story- take a look. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/delanddustinscore.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4590 Plutonic Angrite Micrographs are posted Four ma...
Thanks for the nice words Bernd, I really appreciate it! I was just asked if there was any progression visible in the magnification sets. There is one. It is the Big Bertha Driver looking structure. You will see it in all 4 magnification levels. 55X image #2 80X image #11 160X image # 7 400X image #3 Tom In a message dated 1/23/2008 4:58:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-class_frame.htm = Let me know what you think! = I was already on my way to bed because it is almost midnight here but these micrographs leave you breathless, speechless, ... beauty beyond compare!!! Wish we found such pictures in MAPS because all those colorful details are surely of the utmost scientific importance! So beautiful, so very, very beautiful! Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Dances by Matisse
Anyone see any impact chains? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Dances by Matisse http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_23_08.html MESSENGER Mission News January 23, 2008 MESSENGER Dances by Matisse As MESSENGER approached Mercury on January 14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) of the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS) snapped this image http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=134 of the crater Matisse. Named for the French artist Henri Matisse, the Matisse crater was imaged during the Mariner 10 mission and is about 210 kilometers (130 miles) in diameter. Matisse crater is in the southern hemisphere and can be seen near the terminator of the planet (the line between the sunlit, day side and the dark, night side) in both the color http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=132 and single-filter, black-and-white http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?page=1gallery_id=2image_id=123 images released previously that show an overview of the entire incoming side of Mercury. On Mercury, craters are named for people, now deceased, who have made contributions to the humanities, such as artists, musicians, painters, and authors. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) oversees the official process of naming new craters and other new features discovered on bodies throughout the solar system. Scientists studying and mapping unnamed features can suggest names for consideration by the IAU. The 1,213 images taken by MESSENGER during its first flyby encounter with Mercury cover a large region of Mercury's surface previously unseen by spacecraft, revealing many new craters and other features that will need to be named. Additional information and features from MESSENGER's first flyby of Mercury are online at http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/mer_flyby1.html. MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery -class mission for NASA. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Barry Gheesling new find!
Thank you Dave for sharing with us! How happy your Dad looks, I know that smile!!! Happens when one finds a meteorite! ;-) First I thought you found a meteorite in Georgia! I think the last one reported was in 2000. Its also great to see pictures of people we read posts from like Anita Westlake. Happy hunting, and with best regards, Moni PS. I already congratulated Dustin and Dal. Sweet finds! :-) http://www.meteoriteassociationofgeorgia.org/Archives.htm#13 _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barry Gheesling new find!
Hi Dave, I agree with Moni. Great stuff, cool site too!! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite cake recipe request
Hi everyone, Where else can I ask this question but this ever-enterprising list? I read with interest the posting about the Gold Basin cake in Tucson and thought it would be nice to treat my astronomy class to a cake with a few NWAs hidden inside. So how do you cook up meteorites in a cake? I'm assuming you bag the meteorites but do you cook them with cake or push them after it's done? Curious collectors need to know ;-) Thanks for your help Chef Bob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gold Basin Meteorite Data Base Ad
Hello All, To fund my expeditions into the Gold Basin field I have decided to sell my data base. Visit my web site @ http://meteoritesrock.com/database.html Wayne __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite cake recipe request
The Gold Basin cake has been made every year by Cakes by Clara here in Tucson. I will wrap some Gold Basins in aluminum foil and have Clara push a few in here and there after she bakes it but before she frosts it and decorates it per my color photo of the Gold Basin strewn field which I always give her. I make sure she has a rattlesnake by the Gold Basin sign (sign not there any more at the field but the snake may be lurking), a beautiful bright orange sunset over light blue mountains and lots of Joshua trees and little bushes on the ground. Later I add a few of my miniature chocolate truffles that I make to make it look like it did when Jim, John and I first mapped the field and there were GB meteorites all over the place. Yes they really were... Twink Monrad __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite??? Don't think so
Hi Rob, I think you may be confusing NWA 3133 which plots in the CV zone according to oxygen isotope testing, not Angrites. Angrites do not plot anywhere near the CV3s. Best Regards, Adam --- Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, though I'd love angrites to be shown to be from Mercury but I've looked at some of the papers and they sit neatly within the CV3 realm for oxygen isotope and thermal metamorphosing of CV3 seems to give a pretty good approximation of angrites. I suspect angrites are not from Mercury (though angrite Tomassint [sp] gave me enough doubt to make me buy some just in case) Whatever their history, they appear to be the differentiated part of the same body the CV3 meteorites came from. I still have some of the papers saved to my HD so if anyone wants them I'll see if i can find them. Rob Mc --- Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Darren, List A 2007 paper was published in MAPS taking the other side of the Angrite-Mercury hypothesis: Hutson, M.L. and A. Ruzicka (2007) The case against Mercury as the angrite parent body. Meteoritics Planetary Science 42, Abstract #5238 Here are the ones in favor: Unique Angrite, NWA 2999: The Case For Samples From Mercury, A. Irving, S. Keuhner, D. Rumble, T. Bunch, J. Whittke, AGU, 2005 Fall Meeting, Abstract #P51A-0898 S. M. Kuehner, A. J. Irving, T. E. Bunch, J. H. Wittke, G. M. Hupé A. C. Hupé, 2006, Coronas and symplectites in plutonic angrite NWA 2999 and implications for Mercury as the angrite parent body. Abstracts of the 37th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #1344 Debate continues to exist on the matter. The truth is we have no answer at this time, only a notion of what a Mercurian meteorite might contain. One day soon we will be able to compare gasses or even samples and then we'll have a much better model. Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mecurian Meteorite On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0600, you wrote: So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know! Those angerites are pretty mercurial. http://meteoritestudies.com/protected_MERCURY.HTM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
