Re: [meteorite-list] another new argentina fall??
I wrote: So far there are two institutions who want to analyze the meteorite. I think they are: * Centro Austral de Investigaciones Científicas, CONICET, Argentina * Another University group in Spain Just to confirm, that is the correct Argentine group, and the Spanish hoping to convince the Astronomical Association to send samples for analysis is: Instituto de Ciencias del Espacio (CSIC), Barcelona, Spain I mentioned that a famous Uruguayan astronomer ad Solar System dynamicist, Gonzalo Tancredi, [in quotes because he is conqueror of the King of the underworld himself, Pluto - no disrespect intended, but I am ignorant of his positive contributions to real science, which I would need to know to remove the quotes], now wants to go on an expedition and probably wants material for scientific purposes. He pasionately led the successful charge withn the IAU to kick Pluto out of the Planet Club. I should have added that some of his motivation is because he is working on some theory that this new April 6 fall is part of a recurring meteorite shower, and he references a 1959 Czech fall (Obviously the H5 Pribram, 7 April 1959 for which an orbit was determined) and a -18 magnitude 2002 Bavarian-Austrian bolide from 6 April 2002 (Type Classified as H5 at the time, though no specimens had been recovered, by some astronomers based on a similarity of the bolide to Pribram, with the argument that the orbit was determined precisely also and was so similar to Pribram)...but then: Whether you want to take this seriously or think statistics (remember the Birthday Problem?) would argue otherwise, this is actually the theory of Halliday, et. al. and others who have investigated the idea, for example: NEUSCHWANSTEIN AND PRIBRAM: SOLITAIRE METEORITES OR MEMBERS OF A STREAM? Geophysical Research Abstracts, Vol. 5, 11512, 2003 (where D. Heinlein was the third author) [the conclusion of the latter was that Neuschwanstein, the Bavarian (German) meteorite had a sufficiently indistinguishable orbit so that it could be considered the same a member of the same meteoroid stream. Sadly for proponents, Neuschwanstein was classified as an EL6 in the Meteoritical Bulletin, after being recovered finally, so luckily the idea to bolide it as an H5, too ;), lost the earth under it. The idea that there is an April 6-7 meteoroid stream, though, is apparently alive and kicking.] Also: * the Berduc meteorite looks like a relatively friable chondrite with a gray matrix. * the Berduc meteorite witnesses thought it was coming from the Southwest (~225 degrees Azimuth) and heading towards the Northeast (~45 degrees azimuth)with Berduc being nearly the furthest NE along this line. * Other astronomers mention that Tancredi called Neuschwanstein Austrian. While we might frown upon this, in his defense, the view was quite impressive from Austria where observations were taken, as it turns out, just like Berduc from Uruguay... Best wishes and great Health, Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 3:53 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] another new argentina fall?? Hi Sonny, Not that much more news other than I already posted unless this is of help. It is a very large fall though only small fragments are being reported: * These are the approximate coordinates of the 700 gram piece reported by the Agricultural Engineer Gabriela from the Nursury. Sorry if they are off by a couple of meters: 31 Degrees 54'38.68 South 58 Degrees 19'50.76 West * It is clear that hundreds (more like many thousands) of pieces fell in the surrounding population of Berduc in the Entre Rios municipality. Several in Berduc (hundreds of meters from the Nursury where the largest piece was found) complained of their roofs being pelted with a hail of tiny black rocks. * One residence in Berduc spoke about their experience (her name was withheld by the report), I'll paraphrase the woman who had about 25 grams of fragments with fusion crust, for you: We felt an illumination and it surprised us, but, we didn't pay that much attention, it might have been a car to it and kept watching television. But the thing is, a little while later, we felt the piece [hit]. I would say um, one... right away...I'd say about five minutes just after the illumination; we looked out the windows and we didn't see any clouds, no lights, no vehicles, nothing. Like who would throw rocks? We went outside and turned on the outside light. Well, we didn't want to go outside, we stayed inside, one always avoids doing that at night. We thought was was that? but we stayed inside well, kept watching television and we were there along while. Then we left it like that, we didn't hear anything else, we did nothing but we were left with that thought- what could that have been? Well today in the morning right when we got up,
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[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi List! I have a quick question about Meteoritical Society membership. I forked over my $110 to join back on April 6th or 7th, and I got my confirmation email from them on April 8th. I haven't heard anything since then. I emailed the person responsible for membership issues a few days ago, but have heard nothing. Does it usually take this long to process a membership? I'm eager to get access to the online journal and start doing some serious reading up. I've already consumed every meteorite book I could find, so I'm chomping at the bit for the MS to process me. Am I just being impatient? Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Website - http://www.glassthrower.com/meteorites MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Mike, When I joined it took two months to get anything in the mail, so I wouldn't worry. Best, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:55 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi List! I have a quick question about Meteoritical Society membership. I forked over my $110 to join back on April 6th or 7th, and I got my confirmation email from them on April 8th. I haven't heard anything since then. I emailed the person responsible for membership issues a few days ago, but have heard nothing. Does it usually take this long to process a membership? I'm eager to get access to the online journal and start doing some serious reading up. I've already consumed every meteorite book I could find, so I'm chomping at the bit for the MS to process me. Am I just being impatient? Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Website - http://www.glassthrower.com/meteorites MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi Mike, Am I just being impatient? It has only been a few days, so yes you are :-) I would imagine some graduate student somewhere is working on it and well, having been a graduate student myself In my case, when I sent my check a few years back, It was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hope your case doesn't turn into my case :-( -Walter Branch (oh, that reminds me!) - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi List! I have a quick question about Meteoritical Society membership. I forked over my $110 to join back on April 6th or 7th, and I got my confirmation email from them on April 8th. I haven't heard anything since then. I emailed the person responsible for membership issues a few days ago, but have heard nothing. Does it usually take this long to process a membership? I'm eager to get access to the online journal and start doing some serious reading up. I've already consumed every meteorite book I could find, so I'm chomping at the bit for the MS to process me. Am I just being impatient? Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Website - http://www.glassthrower.com/meteorites MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Ad: Astronaut Autographs
Hello Everyone, Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are some on the list who would be interested. Besides, the more money I have, the more meteorites I can buy from you dealers! I am selling some of my Apollo era astronaut autographed photos. These are Authentic autographs and photos using archival quality paper. All have buy-it-now prices If interested, click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbranchmeteorites Free shipping to list members Thanks, -Walter Branch __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Ad: Astronaut Autographs
All sold. Thanks (you know who you are)! -Walter - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Ad: Astronaut Autographs Hello Everyone, Sorry for the off topic post but I know there are some on the list who would be interested. Besides, the more money I have, the more meteorites I can buy from you dealers! I am selling some of my Apollo era astronaut autographed photos. These are Authentic autographs and photos using archival quality paper. All have buy-it-now prices If interested, click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbranchmeteorites Free shipping to list members Thanks, -Walter Branch __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi Mike M., Hi Mike T., and All, Oups, now I hope that you didn't get my email wrong - I actually enjoy MPS (Meteorites and Planetary Science) more than any other publication, and I'm sure Bernd and Walter are feeling the same. Each and every issue is like a high-class book on meteorites, and related subjects. Sure, these are scientific articles, and I don't get everything what is written in there. But it's the very best publication out there, and it's just a bit sad that MPS is some issues behind, right now (and that's not allways the case!). Now imagine, 12 great books on meteorites and planetary science each year, plus some specials - that's not that bad for their modest annual dues, if you ask me! Mike T.: you will have to wait one full year until the most recent MPS articles are freely accessible online. If you think that this is a reasonable timeframe you're surely not as impatient as I am ,-)) Mike M.: Besides the subscription of MPS which is included in the annual dues for Meteoritical Society membership there are quite a few other reasons why you might want to join. The MetSoc is responsible for naming meteorites, and for publishing the Meteoritical Bulletin, for example, something we really all should be supporting if it's within our budgets. Actually, what would our hobby be without the very existence of the Meteoritical Society? It's the science which makes meteorites interesting - without that science they would be just, ehm, ordinary rocks that have fallen from the sky, and we hardly couldn't tell a lunar from a HED, or a chondrite from a desert varnished wrong... Some good reasons to consider joining and supporting the Meteoritical Society, right? All the best, Norbert (Member of the Meteoritical Society since 2006) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteoritical Society Membership
Mike M. wrote: Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? Hello Mike, The Meteoritical Society is the society founded by Nininger and Leonard and publishes scientific journals, including as a footnote, the Meteoritical Bulletin. The MB is where meteorite classifications are approved by the Nomenclature committee of the Meteoritical Society. The former head of the NomCom is on the list (Dr. Grossman), and many list members are also members of the Met Soc. The benefits of joining? You get MAPS, the journal of Meteoritics and reduces rates on another. As for 'representatives' on the list, well some are here, check out their website on www.meteoriticalsociety.org and you can see who ... Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:01 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
What Norbert said. -Walter - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mike Miller' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'tett' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Mike M., Hi Mike T., and All, Oups, now I hope that you didn't get my email wrong - I actually enjoy MPS (Meteorites and Planetary Science) more than any other publication, and I'm sure Bernd and Walter are feeling the same. Each and every issue is like a high-class book on meteorites, and related subjects. Sure, these are scientific articles, and I don't get everything what is written in there. But it's the very best publication out there, and it's just a bit sad that MPS is some issues behind, right now (and that's not allways the case!). Now imagine, 12 great books on meteorites and planetary science each year, plus some specials - that's not that bad for their modest annual dues, if you ask me! Mike T.: you will have to wait one full year until the most recent MPS articles are freely accessible online. If you think that this is a reasonable timeframe you're surely not as impatient as I am ,-)) Mike M.: Besides the subscription of MPS which is included in the annual dues for Meteoritical Society membership there are quite a few other reasons why you might want to join. The MetSoc is responsible for naming meteorites, and for publishing the Meteoritical Bulletin, for example, something we really all should be supporting if it's within our budgets. Actually, what would our hobby be without the very existence of the Meteoritical Society? It's the science which makes meteorites interesting - without that science they would be just, ehm, ordinary rocks that have fallen from the sky, and we hardly couldn't tell a lunar from a HED, or a chondrite from a desert varnished wrong... Some good reasons to consider joining and supporting the Meteoritical Society, right? All the best, Norbert (Member of the Meteoritical Society since 2006) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi Folks, I was just being impatient it seems! :) I got my confirmation and membership number today! :) One word describes how I feel right now - GEEKJOY! LOL! Aaaahh, now I get to dive in (completely over my head), into the harder science of meteoritics! (If I'm not back in 6 months, call out the National Guard to look for me!) After reading some of the quaint theories present in the dated (but wonderful) Out of the Sky by Nininger, I am thirsty for some newer and more sound theory. For example, one of the theories presented in Out of the Sky (not Nininger's theory, he was merely reporting it), is that the craters on the moon were not formed from meteorite impacts, but from gas bubbles escaping from below the lunar surface, and the craters are solidified remains of the bursting bubbles - left in a plastic-like surface that has since hardened! ;) Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Website - http://www.glassthrower.com/meteorites MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Cool beans, Mike! Not to steal any of your thunder, but I just got notified that I am now a member of the IMCA! So, if anyone has any complaints about an IMCA member.. Don't send them to me!!! -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Folks, I was just being impatient it seems! :) I got my confirmation and membership number today! :) One word describes how I feel right now - GEEKJOY! LOL! Aaaahh, now I get to dive in (completely over my head), into the harder science of meteoritics! (If I'm not back in 6 months, call out the National Guard to look for me!) After reading some of the quaint theories present in the dated (but wonderful) Out of the Sky by Nininger, I am thirsty for some newer and more sound theory. For example, one of the theories presented in Out of the Sky (not Nininger's theory, he was merely reporting it), is that the craters on the moon were not formed from meteorite impacts, but from gas bubbles escaping from below the lunar surface, and the craters are solidified remains of the bursting bubbles - left in a plastic-like surface that has since hardened! ;) Regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Website - http://www.glassthrower.com/meteorites MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale .. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteoritical Society Membership
I'm one who took advantage of the meeting in Tucson last August and the incredible field trips that were available through the Society. Check out my article in the latest issue of Meteorite. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteoritical Society Membership Mike M. wrote: Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? Hello Mike, The Meteoritical Society is the society founded by Nininger and Leonard and publishes scientific journals, including as a footnote, the Meteoritical Bulletin. The MB is where meteorite classifications are approved by the Nomenclature committee of the Meteoritical Society. The former head of the NomCom is on the list (Dr. Grossman), and many list members are also members of the Met Soc. The benefits of joining? You get MAPS, the journal of Meteoritics and reduces rates on another. As for 'representatives' on the list, well some are here, check out their website on www.meteoriticalsociety.org and you can see who ... Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:01 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Hi Mike: There are probably many members of the MetSoc on this listserv (I for one). Larry On Sat, April 19, 2008 9:01 am, Mike Miller wrote: Hi everyone, I guess I have completely missed this organization. What are the benefits of joining? I am guessing they don't have a representative here on the list? On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership
Mike: As an editor and one who reviews articles for a number of journals, yes, it is not always possible to get journals out on time, especially, like MAPS where articles have to be reviewes (and re-reviewed) befor they are published. Larry Mike, did you do something bad? My server does not like sending to you. The last person who I could not send to was Sterling who used naughty (not really) words in an email to me! On Sat, April 19, 2008 8:54 am, tett wrote: Well, I was just saying to myself the other day that I should investigate joining. Now I am not so sure ;( Why join if you can't get quick access to their online journals and get their publications in a reasonable time frame. To add someone to a mailing list and grant access to the online journals should not be a monumental task. I will wait and see what others have to say about joining the Meteoritical Society Mike Tettenborn - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society Membership Hi Bernd, Walter, and All, The same here Bernd - but's that's probably just because they want to raise our appetite for the first 4 issues of 2008 ,-) Joking aside: being in the publishing business since many years I know how hard it is to complete such volumoneous issues in a timely manner, and I'm sure all the people at the MetSoc and at MPS are doing their very best to provide us with their publications. Personally, I'm not concerned as all the best things often take a while... So, just be patient; I'm sure that the December issue 2007 will be on its way, soon. And some of you thought Meteorite Magazine, Meteorite-Times or IMCA Insights were slow ,-? Patiently Yours, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Walter writes: when I sent my check a few years back, it was nearly a year and only after several emails did I my membership actually become official. Hello All, .. and while we are at it, my latest issue of MAPS is November 2007 !!! :-( :-( :-( Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Call for Articles for the August issue of Meteorite magazine
Hello Again: Thank you to everyone who responded to our question about the Meteorite magazine DVD. I have responded to a few of you, but owe many others personal responses. We are hoping to get to work on this over the summer when our copy person, Richard, is out of school and has more free time. We are just finishing the proofs of the May issue of Meteorite and that means we are starting to compile our list of authors for the August issue. However, we still need more articles! A number of you have promised articles, so it is now time to uphold your promises. Our deadline is May 19, just a month away. If this is too soon, there is always mid-August for the November issue! Just let us know. As we said in our last Call, articles should be on the order of 1,000 to 2,500 words (longer ones may end up as 2-parters) with 4 or 5 pictures. Also, don't forget, if you have read a relatively new (less than about 2 years old) book, think about writing a review article about it. Thank you for your continued support of YOUR magazine. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky Editors, Meteorite magazine __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Participation on the List
Hello Everyone, I have noticed that recently, we seem to be getting an increase in posts from meteoriticists, the scientists who study and provide us with information about these rocks we love so much. In fact, I can't remember a time, perhaps many years ago, when scientists participation in list discussions was greater. I would like to say thank-you to those scientists who have contributed to list discussions. I am sure (at least on this issue) that I can safely speak for us non-scientists list members when I say we really appreciate your contributions here on the meteorite central list server. Hope to see more (gentle nudge) posts from the scientists in the future! -Walter Branch __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list