[meteorite-list] Kamil Crater Discovery: New Video

2011-01-18 Thread py...@libero.it
Approaching the second anniversary of the Kamil Crater Discovery (19 February 
2009) I put online a new video about this important finding:

http://www.zerzuraclub.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=120%
3Ail-kamil-cratercatid=35Itemid=72
http://www.zerzuraclub.org/images/stories/kamilweb/kamil_find_20090219.mov

Giancarlo Negro
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[meteorite-list] Correction - Kamil Crater Discovery: New Video

2011-01-18 Thread py...@libero.it
Sorry.

Please use this link http://tinyurl.com/kamilcraterzerzura instead of the 
broken one in the previous post

Thanks,
Giancarlo Negro


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[meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
  It appears that this is not Weston as labeled;maybe not even a meteorite?  

http://www.thedailyweston.com/news/weston-meteor-was-almost-lost-science

Comments anyone?  

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread mafer
wrong image by an uninformed reporter who took lots of photos?
Doubt that is an H4

On 11:58:41 am 01/18/11 drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,
   It appears that this is not Weston as labeled;maybe not even a
 meteorite?
 http://www.thedailyweston.com/news/weston-meteor-was-almost-lost-scien
 ce

 Comments anyone?

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[meteorite-list] OT Trying to Contact Eric Haiderer- Any Help?

2011-01-18 Thread Larry Atkins

List,

I've tried to contact him on several occassions with no luck. Does 
anyone know how I can get a hold of him, pronto?



Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
 
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Ebay alienrockfarm
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting the Cargo Muchacho Mts pics link

2011-01-18 Thread wahlperry

Hi Scott,

Thanks the great story and pictures.

Sonny


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link



 Here is link to Cargo M hunt 
picshttp://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=48553id=10097188302l=9bf9
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[meteorite-list] AD - Excellent Auctions Ending - Check Them Out!

2011-01-18 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

Just a quick note to let you know I have 56  auctions ending tonight. All were  
started at just 99 cents with no reserve. There are many great  pieces listed 
including some larger thin slices of planetary material.  I will be listing 
different pieces from  old stock as I run out of other items so there will be 
material that  has not been available for a long time so you may want to check  
these auctions out.

Link to all auctions:
http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html


Thank   you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


Best   Regards,

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[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread valparint
I sent two inquiries recently via the meteoritesusa web site and received 
canned responses along the lines of 'thank you for your email' but nothing 
about the specific issue, which was the issues I haven't received, which is all 
but the first one. So, WTFooey with the extra copies for the gem show?!?

paul swartz

 Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via snail 
 mail beyond the premier July issue?
 
 My inquiring mind wants to know.
 
 Thanks,
 Ed
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread actionshooting
I paid back at the first of November and for the $39.95 deal/package and have 
not seen anything yet. I got an email saying they were shipping the goodies but 
I have yet to see them either. That was several weeks ago. I am starting to get 
worried.



 Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: 
 OK, now I'm totally confused.  Quote from email below regarding MHC 
 magazine:
 
 Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have
  them at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or 
  the Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for 
  *$10* each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!)
 
 I subscribed and so far I have only received the July issue via snail mail. 
 AFAIK the Sept and Nov issues never materialized (delays, etc.)  Now, back 
 issues of the Sept and November issues are being offered for sale at Tucson 
 by having extra copies printed?  And January's issue is coming fast?
 
 Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via snail 
 mail beyond the premier July issue?
 
 My inquiring mind wants to know.
 
 Thanks,
 Ed
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:32 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines
 
 
  Meteorites For Sale: Having a large sale from now until the Tucson Show. 
  Order over $250 get 10% off. See details on my meteorites for sale page.
  http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/
 
  Check out the Meteorite Auctions: Many items starting at 99 cents!
  http://shop.ebay.com/freel3orn/m.html
 
  Subscribe to Meteorite Hunting  Collecting Magazine: 25% Off Until The 
  Tucson Show!
  http://www.mhcmagazine.com/subscribe/
 
  Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have them 
  at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or the 
  Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for *$10* 
  each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!) 
  Everyone will start receiving their magazines direct from our printer in 
  the coming weeks! Please let me know when you start receiving them. 
  EVERYONE's orders with their collectibles are still shipping in the order 
  they were received.
 
  January Issue UPDATE: Also, just a heads up on the January issue! It's 
  coming fast, this issue will be on Planetary Defense, our beloved 
  meteorites, and their relationship to the science of protecting our planet 
  from those pesky 1/km+ sized asteroids. In addition there are some great 
  aticles about meteorite hunting here in the USA, and a special article 
  about how many meteorites actually fall on this planet each day. It's NOT 
  what you would think. Is it more? Less? You'll just have to get a 
  subscription to find out.
 
  Enjoy...
 
  Email or Call 760-522-2152 to order.
 
  Regards,
  Eric
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread Frank Cressy






Hello,

Definitely Weston.  The photo is the Smithsonian's specimen.  The facts in 
the 

article are a bit out of wack but the basic story is correct.  The stone in the 
Gibb's collection was 36.5 pounds that went to the Peabody Museum.  It was the 
only one of the seven stones that wasn't smashed on landing or in search for 
treasure.  


Still have doubts?  The following link is to the Smithsonian specimen.  It's 
up-side-down to the newspaper photo.

http://collections.nmnh.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/pages/common/imagedisplay.php?irn=1000955reftable=enmnhrefirn=1022304



Cheers,

Frank




From: ma...@imagineopals.com ma...@imagineopals.com
To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 4:59:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

wrong image by an uninformed reporter who took lots of photos?
Doubt that is an H4

On 11:58:41 am 01/18/11 drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,
  It appears that this is not Weston as labeled;maybe not even a
 meteorite?
 http://www.thedailyweston.com/news/weston-meteor-was-almost-lost-scien
 ce

 Comments anyone?

 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Dirk, All,
That specimen is typical of larger pieces of the Weston H-breccia.
I've seen photos of other larger pieces and they all look like that,
give or take.
Yale has a larger piece:

http://www.peabody.yale.edu/collections/met/met_weston.html

Aaaand Frank just found another photo.  Good enough for me.
If anyone has any larger pieces of Weston available, I'm looking for one.
Regards,
Jason


On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:58 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear List,
  It appears that this is not Weston as labeled;maybe not even a meteorite?

 http://www.thedailyweston.com/news/weston-meteor-was-almost-lost-science

 Comments anyone?

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[meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bandli
There is a new book out:

http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=37_167
products_id=2027

I'll be reading it this week and hope to give a review soon. Looks like it
will be good!

(Thanks to R. Wesel for the gift!)

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread Count Deiro
List,

Paul asked Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue 
via snail mail beyond the premier July issue?

I haven't and my unsolicited opinion is that we probably will not receive 
any in the future. Publishing and distributing niche periodicals is a daunting 
and costly endeavour requiring one to to purchase paper stock, edit copy, 
select and caption photos, layout, print and pay postage for snail mail. Were 
talking high four figures a month without paying any salaries, or profit. 

When I saw the excellent (expensive) first issue I said to myself...This ain't 
gonna last as the publisher would have to maintain a paid subscription base in 
the thousands to just break even. 

Online only might pencil out. Mailing hard copies is a brutal nut to crack.

I wish the publisher all the good luck in the world and my compliments on the 
quality of the first issue.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 


-Original Message-
From: valpar...@aol.com
Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:57 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines

I sent two inquiries recently via the meteoritesusa web site and received 
canned responses along the lines of 'thank you for your email' but nothing 
about the specific issue, which was the issues I haven't received, which is 
all but the first one. So, WTFooey with the extra copies for the gem show?!?

paul swartz

 Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via snail 
 mail beyond the premier July issue?
 
 My inquiring mind wants to know.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread csaconn
Count,

 I agree with you but if what you suggest is true, it's not fair to let someone 
mislead this list by soliciting future subscriptions. I thought that the 
November issue was at the press back in December and to print the November 
issue before the September one makes no sense at all! And to have all the 
missing issues available in two weeks in Tucson? I've asked about my missing 
issues several times and the answer is always 2 weeks!

 Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 List,
 
 Paul asked Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue 
 via snail mail beyond the premier July issue?
 
 I haven't and my unsolicited opinion is that we probably will not receive 
 any in the future. Publishing and distributing niche periodicals is a 
 daunting and costly endeavour requiring one to to purchase paper stock, edit 
 copy, select and caption photos, layout, print and pay postage for snail 
 mail. Were talking high four figures a month without paying any salaries, or 
 profit. 
 
 When I saw the excellent (expensive) first issue I said to myself...This 
 ain't gonna last as the publisher would have to maintain a paid subscription 
 base in the thousands to just break even. 
 
 Online only might pencil out. Mailing hard copies is a brutal nut to crack.
 
 I wish the publisher all the good luck in the world and my compliments on the 
 quality of the first issue.
 
 Count Deiro
 IMCA 3536 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: valpar...@aol.com
 Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:57 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines
 
 I sent two inquiries recently via the meteoritesusa web site and received 
 canned responses along the lines of 'thank you for your email' but nothing 
 about the specific issue, which was the issues I haven't received, which is 
 all but the first one. So, WTFooey with the extra copies for the gem show?!?
 
 paul swartz
 
  Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via 
  snail 
  mail beyond the premier July issue?
  
  My inquiring mind wants to know.
  
  Thanks,
  Ed
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread drtanuki
Dear Jason and All that replied,
  Thank you for clearing things up for me about the photo of the Weston.  I 
have only seen it in broken form in the 50 some grams that I bought from 
Michael Cottingham several years ago.  Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo


--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!
 To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 1:57 AM
 Hello Dirk, All,
 That specimen is typical of larger pieces of the Weston
 H-breccia.
 I've seen photos of other larger pieces and they all look
 like that,
 give or take.
 Yale has a larger piece:
 
 http://www.peabody.yale.edu/collections/met/met_weston.html
 
 Aaaand Frank just found another photo.  Good enough
 for me.
 If anyone has any larger pieces of Weston available, I'm
 looking for one.
 Regards,
 Jason
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:58 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Dear List,
   It appears that this is not Weston as labeled;maybe
 not even a meteorite?
 
  http://www.thedailyweston.com/news/weston-meteor-was-almost-lost-science
 
  Comments anyone?
 
  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Spratt

The link broke. Can you provide book title.

Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Fujihara
Chris, all, try this: http://tinyurl.com/4nct7xl

gary

On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Chris Spratt wrote:

 The link broke. Can you provide book title.
 
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[meteorite-list] The Tents are going up!

2011-01-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
The buzz in Tucson is already growing and the tents are going up!
No question those of us that live here are getting excited too. Just 9 more 
days before the official start of the first show. Some wheeling and dealing has 
already started.

A quick weather update, it's going to be about 80F  sunny here today.
I just looked at the long term forecasts and it looks like it should be sunny 
for most of the shows, even if it'll be a little cool. Forecast highs during 
the show are around 70F.

Looking forward to seeing all of our friends again soon!


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread Dennis Miller

Me To!  Eric, My man, Pal, If you are out there, Suggestion! I would
expect you to satisfy your publication back with your subscribers before
trying to sell additional inventory in Tucson Seems you have given us
all the same story about the printer holding up completion. What's Up???
Dennis Miller
 


 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:23:02 -0500
 From: csac...@triad.rr.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; valpar...@aol.com; 
 countde...@earthlink.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines
 
 Count,
 
 I agree with you but if what you suggest is true, it's not fair to let 
 someone mislead this list by soliciting future subscriptions. I thought that 
 the November issue was at the press back in December and to print the 
 November issue before the September one makes no sense at all! And to have 
 all the missing issues available in two weeks in Tucson? I've asked about my 
 missing issues several times and the answer is always 2 weeks!
 
  Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: 
  List,
  
  Paul asked Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other 
  issue via snail mail beyond the premier July issue?
  
  I haven't and my unsolicited opinion is that we probably will not 
  receive any in the future. Publishing and distributing niche periodicals is 
  a daunting and costly endeavour requiring one to to purchase paper stock, 
  edit copy, select and caption photos, layout, print and pay postage for 
  snail mail. Were talking high four figures a month without paying any 
  salaries, or profit. 
  
  When I saw the excellent (expensive) first issue I said to myself...This 
  ain't gonna last as the publisher would have to maintain a paid 
  subscription base in the thousands to just break even. 
  
  Online only might pencil out. Mailing hard copies is a brutal nut to crack.
  
  I wish the publisher all the good luck in the world and my compliments on 
  the quality of the first issue.
  
  Count Deiro
  IMCA 3536 
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: valpar...@aol.com
  Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:57 AM
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines
  
  I sent two inquiries recently via the meteoritesusa web site and received 
  canned responses along the lines of 'thank you for your email' but nothing 
  about the specific issue, which was the issues I haven't received, which 
  is all but the first one. So, WTFooey with the extra copies for the gem 
  show?!?
  
  paul swartz
  
   Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via 
   snail 
   mail beyond the premier July issue?
   
   My inquiring mind wants to know.
   
   Thanks,
   Ed
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Tents are going up!

2011-01-18 Thread Gary Fujihara
Thanks for the update Richard.  I know I'm catching the buzz!  Loading up the 
outrigger canoe (with meteorites and beer), and looking forward to seeing all 
my meteorite compatriots in a few days.  A hui hou!

gary

On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

 The buzz in Tucson is already growing and the tents are going up!
 No question those of us that live here are getting excited too. Just 9 more 
 days before the official start of the first show. Some wheeling and dealing 
 has already started.
 
 A quick weather update, it's going to be about 80F  sunny here today.
 I just looked at the long term forecasts and it looks like it should be sunny 
 for most of the shows, even if it'll be a little cool. Forecast highs during 
 the show are around 70F.
 
 Looking forward to seeing all of our friends again soon!
 
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] (OT) GPS POI files for Tucson and Southern Arizona

2011-01-18 Thread Richard Kowalski
Apologies for this cross posting this semi off topic message, but I know there 
are people on each of these lists that might have an interest in this, but they 
are not on more than one of the lists I'm sending this to, so this seemed most 
efficient...


For those of you who will be attending the Gem, Fossil  Mineral shows here in 
Tucson starting next week, I have created a Point of Interest file for use in 
personal GPS devices that has the location for each of the 40 plus shows, broken 
down by both show name and location name.


For those coming for their first show, I think you'll this file will 
indispensable to help you find your way around to the various shows. If you are 
a show regular, you may find that the file is still useful helping you find this 
year's brand new show locations, or find those more obscure shows you haven't 
been to before.


This file, Tucson Gem, Mineral  Fossil Showcase can be found on the excellent 
site POI-Factory at: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/24678



In addition to this file, I have also created several others that may be of 
interest to those of you who visit Tucson for business and pleasure. One is for 
those interested in Astronomy and others are of a more general interest.


Optical Valley- Tucson, Arizona is the astronomy specific file. It contains 
the locations and descriptions of every professional telescope in the Tucson and 
Southern Arizona as well as a few locations on the University of Arizona campus. 
(No amateur sites or commercial telescopes are included)


Lastly, I've created a few files that can be used by general visitors and 
residents alike.


Optical Valley - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/17651
Tucson  Southern Arizona Attractions - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31932
Saguaro National Park East  West - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/17355

All of these files may be downloaded for free as can most of the other files on 
that site.
Most of my files are generated in the Garmin GPX format, but there are a number 
of software programs that can make a conversion for you if your unit does not 
handle the GPX format.


I've created several more Tucson files and there are many created by others 
that could be useful for people visiting the area, so be sure try more than just 
my files.


I'm in no way associated with the Poi-Factory website, but it is a friendly, 
helpful site that is free and has NO advertising on it. I real rarity in this 
day and age.



--
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Catalina Sky Survey
Lunar and Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Tents are going up!

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Hupe

Hey Gary,

Don't overload that canoe with beer, wouldn't want to get the meteorites wet 
and plus you can bring more stones!! Still trying to get my friend to fly 
over to Hawaii and pick up the inventory of brew from you to take to 
Tucson!! ;-)


I'll be in Tucson a week from today, looking forward to seeing y'all there!

Best Regards,
Greg


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-Original Message- 
From: Gary Fujihara

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:53 PM
To: Richard Kowalski
Cc: meteorite list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Tents are going up!

Thanks for the update Richard.  I know I'm catching the buzz!  Loading up 
the outrigger canoe (with meteorites and beer), and looking forward to 
seeing all my meteorite compatriots in a few days.  A hui hou!


gary

On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Richard Kowalski wrote:


The buzz in Tucson is already growing and the tents are going up!
No question those of us that live here are getting excited too. Just 9 
more days before the official start of the first show. Some wheeling and 
dealing has already started.


A quick weather update, it's going to be about 80F  sunny here today.
I just looked at the long term forecasts and it looks like it should be 
sunny for most of the shows, even if it'll be a little cool. Forecast 
highs during the show are around 70F.


Looking forward to seeing all of our friends again soon!


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081



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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: NWA 6349 prov. - a PRIME Brachinite at a low preferential price

2011-01-18 Thread Chladnis Heirs

Dear meteorite friends,

As a starter for our new meteoritical year, we chose for our Special a truly
especially convincing offer:

An excellent brachinite.


The class of the brachinites comprises quite heterogeneous members and their
genesis and the kind and history of their possible parent body isn't fully
understood yet, which makes that type so thrilling for the actual research.

To avoid iteration of former discussions and explanations on the
brachinite-group here on the list and in our specials and in fully
recognizing, that no one could better present the different types in such an
up-to-date and comprehensive manner than him, we recommend to consult David
Weir's famous meteorite studies homepage to get an insight into the
brachinite-topic.

With NWA 6349 today an attractive and very elegant representative of its
class climbs in the ring.

As you see already on the pictures, NWA 6349 lacks the brownish tint and
color, which other brachinites commonly share and which you connect with
that type, remembering the illustrations in the books of the classic one,
Eagles Nest.

It is, because NWA 6349 isn't so weathered like the others, but of a still
good freshness.


With several new numbers in the recent 2-3 years - and also the Bulletin
database not yet fully updated with the newer ones, (but also the holders of
samples of them being somewhat scrooge in loading up photos of their
specimens in the EoM), the situation with the brachinites is currently still
somewhat opaque.

We personally believe to see actually  4 complexes:

- NWA 3151, highlighted as the first true BRA from NWA + pairings.
- NWA 5471  possible pairings
- The stones around NWA 4882  NWA 5969, the latter the freshest of all
- And let us add, although no brachinites, the recent brachinite-like
numbers NWA 5400 et seqq.


There are indications, that our NWA 6349 with its 730g tkw may be a pairing
of NWA 4882.


Here are coming now the slices, as always with one polished side:

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa6349.html


Despite the recent numbers and nevertheless, a glimpse in the Bulletin
Database shows, how shockingly rare that type is (and of what for a crucial
importance the NWA finds are for research);

The quality of the NWA 6349 material is evident, the price of the alleged
possible pairings maybe here and there in the back of your mind, so that we
finally think, 
that our pricing of 40$ a gram
will make NWA 6349 for the collector  curator 
to an especially joyful brachinite.

With our best wishes,

Stefan  Martin

Chladni's Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science  Collectors 

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com




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[meteorite-list] AD: Special: NWA 6349 prov. - a PRIME Brachinite at a low preferential price

2011-01-18 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear meteorite friends,

As a starter for our new meteoritical year, we chose for our Special a truly
especially convincing offer:

An excellent brachinite.


The class of the brachinites comprises quite heterogeneous members and their
genesis and the kind and history of their possible parent body isn't fully
understood yet, which makes that type so thrilling for the actual research.

To avoid iteration of former discussions and explanations on the
brachinite-group here on the list and in our specials and in fully
recognizing, that no one could better present the different types in such an
up-to-date and comprehensive manner than him, we recommend to consult David
Weir's famous meteorite studies homepage to get an insight into the
brachinite-topic.

With NWA 6349 today an attractive and very elegant representative of its
class climbs in the ring.

As you see already on the pictures, NWA 6349 lacks the brownish tint and
color, which other brachinites commonly share and which you connect with
that type, remembering the illustrations in the books of the classic one,
Eagles Nest.

It is, because NWA 6349 isn't so weathered like the others, but of a still
good freshness.


With several new numbers in the recent 2-3 years - and also the Bulletin
database not yet fully updated with the newer ones, (but also the holders of
samples of them being somewhat scrooge in loading up photos of their
specimens in the EoM), the situation with the brachinites is currently still
somewhat opaque.

We personally believe to see actually  4 complexes:

- NWA 3151, highlighted as the first true BRA from NWA + pairings.
- NWA 5471  possible pairings
- The stones around NWA 4882  NWA 5969, the latter the freshest of all
- And let us add, although no brachinites, the recent brachinite-like
numbers NWA 5400 et seqq.


There are indications, that our NWA 6349 with its 730g tkw may be a pairing
of NWA 4882.


Here are coming now the slices, as always with one polished side:

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa6349.html


Despite the recent numbers and nevertheless, a glimpse in the Bulletin
Database shows, how shockingly rare that type is (and of what for a crucial
importance the NWA finds are for research);

The quality of the NWA 6349 material is evident, the price of the alleged
possible pairings maybe here and there in the back of your mind, so that we
finally think, 
that our pricing of 40$ a gram
will make NWA 6349 for the collector  curator 
to an especially joyful brachinite.

With our best wishes,

Stefan  Martin

Chladni's Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science  Collectors 

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com



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Re: [meteorite-list] (OT) GPS POI files for Tucson and Southern Arizona

2011-01-18 Thread John Teague
If you don't want to do this, go to the on-line sites, get the addresses for 
the show, program them into your GPS BEFORE you head to Tucson and you're good 
to go.  I've done that and it sure saves time going to shows that you've never 
been to before.

And, risking the wrath of the list, I, too, program in the address for 
restaurants that I want to visit.  This really saves time at night!

John Teague
Knoxville, Tennessee


-Original Message-
From: Richard Kowalski kowal...@lpl.arizona.edu
Sent: Jan 18, 2011 2:57 PM
To: MPML m...@yahoogroups.com, Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, IMCA Mailing List i...@imcamail.de
Subject: [meteorite-list] (OT) GPS POI files for Tucson and Southern Arizona

Apologies for this cross posting this semi off topic message, but I know there 
are people on each of these lists that might have an interest in this, but 
they 
are not on more than one of the lists I'm sending this to, so this seemed most 
efficient...

For those of you who will be attending the Gem, Fossil  Mineral shows here in 
Tucson starting next week, I have created a Point of Interest file for use in 
personal GPS devices that has the location for each of the 40 plus shows, 
broken 
down by both show name and location name.

For those coming for their first show, I think you'll this file will 
indispensable to help you find your way around to the various shows. If you 
are 
a show regular, you may find that the file is still useful helping you find 
this 
year's brand new show locations, or find those more obscure shows you haven't 
been to before.

This file, Tucson Gem, Mineral  Fossil Showcase can be found on the 
excellent 
site POI-Factory at: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/24678


In addition to this file, I have also created several others that may be of 
interest to those of you who visit Tucson for business and pleasure. One is 
for 
those interested in Astronomy and others are of a more general interest.

Optical Valley- Tucson, Arizona is the astronomy specific file. It contains 
the locations and descriptions of every professional telescope in the Tucson 
and 
Southern Arizona as well as a few locations on the University of Arizona 
campus. 
(No amateur sites or commercial telescopes are included)

Lastly, I've created a few files that can be used by general visitors and 
residents alike.

Optical Valley - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/17651
Tucson  Southern Arizona Attractions - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31932
Saguaro National Park East  West - http://www.poi-factory.com/node/17355

All of these files may be downloaded for free as can most of the other files 
on 
that site.
Most of my files are generated in the Garmin GPX format, but there are a 
number 
of software programs that can make a conversion for you if your unit does not 
handle the GPX format.

I've created several more Tucson files and there are many created by others 
that could be useful for people visiting the area, so be sure try more than 
just 
my files.

I'm in no way associated with the Poi-Factory website, but it is a friendly, 
helpful site that is free and has NO advertising on it. I real rarity in this 
day and age.


-- 
Richard Kowalski
Catalina Sky Survey
Lunar and Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/css/
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: NWA 6349 prov. - a PRIME Brachiniteat a low preferential price

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello Martin and List,

Congrats, Martin, on your Brachinite pairing to NWA 4882. It is such a nice 
meteorite, can't believe it has been about three years ago that I first got 
NWA 4882 and STILL haven't offered any publicly. Time flies by too fast... 
Some many meteorites, so little time!! :-)


Best Regards,
Greg


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NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@centurylink.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

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-Original Message- 
From: Martin Altmann

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:23 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: NWA 6349 prov. - a PRIME Brachiniteat 
a low preferential price


Dear meteorite friends,

As a starter for our new meteoritical year, we chose for our Special a truly
especially convincing offer:

An excellent brachinite.


The class of the brachinites comprises quite heterogeneous members and their
genesis and the kind and history of their possible parent body isn't fully
understood yet, which makes that type so thrilling for the actual research.

To avoid iteration of former discussions and explanations on the
brachinite-group here on the list and in our specials and in fully
recognizing, that no one could better present the different types in such an
up-to-date and comprehensive manner than him, we recommend to consult David
Weir's famous meteorite studies homepage to get an insight into the
brachinite-topic.

With NWA 6349 today an attractive and very elegant representative of its
class climbs in the ring.

As you see already on the pictures, NWA 6349 lacks the brownish tint and
color, which other brachinites commonly share and which you connect with
that type, remembering the illustrations in the books of the classic one,
Eagles Nest.

It is, because NWA 6349 isn't so weathered like the others, but of a still
good freshness.


With several new numbers in the recent 2-3 years - and also the Bulletin
database not yet fully updated with the newer ones, (but also the holders of
samples of them being somewhat scrooge in loading up photos of their
specimens in the EoM), the situation with the brachinites is currently still
somewhat opaque.

We personally believe to see actually  4 complexes:

- NWA 3151, highlighted as the first true BRA from NWA + pairings.
- NWA 5471  possible pairings
- The stones around NWA 4882  NWA 5969, the latter the freshest of all
- And let us add, although no brachinites, the recent brachinite-like
numbers NWA 5400 et seqq.


There are indications, that our NWA 6349 with its 730g tkw may be a pairing
of NWA 4882.


Here are coming now the slices, as always with one polished side:

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa6349.html


Despite the recent numbers and nevertheless, a glimpse in the Bulletin
Database shows, how shockingly rare that type is (and of what for a crucial
importance the NWA finds are for research);

The quality of the NWA 6349 material is evident, the price of the alleged
possible pairings maybe here and there in the back of your mind, so that we
finally think,
that our pricing of 40$ a gram
will make NWA 6349 for the collector  curator
to an especially joyful brachinite.

With our best wishes,

Stefan  Martin

Chladni's Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science  Collectors

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com



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Re: [meteorite-list] (OT) GPS POI files for Tucson and Southern Arizona

2011-01-18 Thread Richard Kowalski

On 1/18/2011 1:39 PM, John Teague wrote:

If you don't want to do this, go to the on-line sites, get the addresses for 
the show, program them into your GPS BEFORE you head to Tucson and you're good 
to go.  I've done that and it sure saves time going to shows that you've never 
been to before.

And, risking the wrath of the list, I, too, program in the address for 
restaurants that I want to visit.  This really saves time at night!

John Teague
Knoxville, Tennessee



Hi John,
Yep, that's a perfectly viable way to enter locations. There are a number of 
ways to do this. By loading the POIs I've cited you'll have several hundred 
locations loaded to your unit in just a few minutes.


I agree about finding good restaurants too. If you explore that POI-Factory 
website you'll find dozens if not hundreds of poi files for restaurants 
containing thousands of locations. I heartily recommend the restaurants in the 
Diners, Drive-Ins  Dives files. For those unfamiliar with the program of the 
same name on the Food Network here in the States, they highlight mom  pop 
places with funky atmosphere's and toe curlingly great food. (Personal experiences)


I got my first consumer automotive GPS unit a few years ago when I started 
photographing real estate. Today I couldn't imagine traveling without it. They 
are awesome when you are in unfamiliar territory.


Cheers

Richard

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[meteorite-list] ASU/Tucson Gem Show Questions

2011-01-18 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,
 
Looks like the Gem show is already on its way in Tucson, I wonder what will be 
the hit this year at the show, only time will tell unless some Listers have a 
hunch? As for the shows I am wondering will ASU be par taking in the Tucson Gem 
activities and who's the Curator or in charge of the meteorite department, if 
anyone knows please let me know :)
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: NWA 6349 prov. - a PRIME Brachinite at a low preferential price

2011-01-18 Thread cdtucson
Martin,
Beautiful material. Would you be so kind as to post pictures of the whole stone 
including the fusion crust. 
Thanks,
Carl
--
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Meteoritemax


 Chladnis Heirs n...@chladnis-heirs.com wrote: 
 
 Dear meteorite friends,
 
 As a starter for our new meteoritical year, we chose for our Special a truly
 especially convincing offer:
 
 An excellent brachinite.
 
 
 The class of the brachinites comprises quite heterogeneous members and their
 genesis and the kind and history of their possible parent body isn't fully
 understood yet, which makes that type so thrilling for the actual research.
 
 To avoid iteration of former discussions and explanations on the
 brachinite-group here on the list and in our specials and in fully
 recognizing, that no one could better present the different types in such an
 up-to-date and comprehensive manner than him, we recommend to consult David
 Weir's famous meteorite studies homepage to get an insight into the
 brachinite-topic.
 
 With NWA 6349 today an attractive and very elegant representative of its
 class climbs in the ring.
 
 As you see already on the pictures, NWA 6349 lacks the brownish tint and
 color, which other brachinites commonly share and which you connect with
 that type, remembering the illustrations in the books of the classic one,
 Eagles Nest.
 
 It is, because NWA 6349 isn't so weathered like the others, but of a still
 good freshness.
 
 
 With several new numbers in the recent 2-3 years - and also the Bulletin
 database not yet fully updated with the newer ones, (but also the holders of
 samples of them being somewhat scrooge in loading up photos of their
 specimens in the EoM), the situation with the brachinites is currently still
 somewhat opaque.
 
 We personally believe to see actually  4 complexes:
 
 - NWA 3151, highlighted as the first true BRA from NWA + pairings.
 - NWA 5471  possible pairings
 - The stones around NWA 4882  NWA 5969, the latter the freshest of all
 - And let us add, although no brachinites, the recent brachinite-like
 numbers NWA 5400 et seqq.
 
 
 There are indications, that our NWA 6349 with its 730g tkw may be a pairing
 of NWA 4882.
 
 
 Here are coming now the slices, as always with one polished side:
 
 http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa6349.html
 
 
 Despite the recent numbers and nevertheless, a glimpse in the Bulletin
 Database shows, how shockingly rare that type is (and of what for a crucial
 importance the NWA finds are for research);
 
 The quality of the NWA 6349 material is evident, the price of the alleged
 possible pairings maybe here and there in the back of your mind, so that we
 finally think, 
 that our pricing of 40$ a gram
 will make NWA 6349 for the collector  curator 
 to an especially joyful brachinite.
 
 With our best wishes,
 
 Stefan  Martin
 
 Chladni's Heirs
 Munich - Berlin
 Fine Meteorites for Science  Collectors 
 
 http://www.chladnis-heirs.com
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] AD - Park Forest, Buck Mountain, SaW 005, And More!!

2011-01-18 Thread Larry Atkins


Hello List,

I have some great items ending now including a part slice of an L 
chondrite from Franconia that I found.  Sacramento Wash 005 that I 
found some years back, which may be the worlds 4th smallest oriented 
iron! (I guess that could be debatable!) I also have 4 Park Forest 
pieces from my brothers spectacular 638 gram specimen that he found, 
weighing at about a gram or less each, that are still at about  $1.00.  
There's a piece of my big Holbrook, a piece of Mifflin (not from my 
find) and a big chunk of the paleo EL chondrite.  Oh yea, a whole 
Franconia stone I found with pic's and coord's. There's another one or 
two as well.


http://shop.ebay.com/alienrockfarm/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1

Thanks for looking, and good luck if you bid!

Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
 
IMCA # 1941
Ebay alienrockfarm
 
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[meteorite-list] Seeking Impact Materials

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Beauford
Dear friends,
I would like to put together an educational collection of impact materials.  I 
need examples of a variety of impactites.  I've got tektites and moldavite, but 
would like partial melts, highly shocked materials, breccias, suevites, and so 
on, with their crater of origin (and preferably location in relation to the 
crater).  I particularly need materials that will show microscopic shock 
alteration features in thin section.  I recently collected a quantity of really 
nice coherent samples of KT boundary material from the legendary outcrops near 
Trinidad, in Southern Colorado, and would be happy to send a provenanced piece 
of this, along with my sincere thanks, to anyone that is willing to send me 
nice, labeled materials that I can use.

Please reply off list, and I will supply my personal mailing address and get 
yours (if you are interested in the KT material in return).
Thank you, in advance, for your assistance.
-Robert Beauford


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines

2011-01-18 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Here is the message I got on Jan 
5th.


-Original Message- 
From: cont...@mhcmagazine.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:04 PM
To: cont...@mhcmagazine.com
Subject: NOTICE: To All Current Subscribers!

We're going to print this week. Everyone will get the magazines this month, 
and into the first part of February. Just in time for the TUCSON SHOW!


If you ordered the package deal. The goodies/collectibles (free meteorite, 
gemstone vial, meteorite poster) are all being shipped in the order they 
were received.


If you're already subscribed and you'd like a second subscription (read one 
collect one) There is 24 Hours Left on the New Years Sale!


1 Year of Meteorite Hunting  Collecting Magazine for only $25
http://www.mhcmagazine.com/promotions/
BONUS: Comes with FREE Signed Meteorite Men Collectible

Thanks to YOU ALL for the support for our brand new magazine!

Regards,
Eric





-Original Message- 
From: Ed Deckert

Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:16 PM
To: Meteorites USA ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines

OK, now I'm totally confused.  Quote from email below regarding MHC
magazine:

Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have
them at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or 
the Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for 
*$10* each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!)


I subscribed and so far I have only received the July issue via snail mail.
AFAIK the Sept and Nov issues never materialized (delays, etc.)  Now, back
issues of the Sept and November issues are being offered for sale at Tucson
by having extra copies printed?  And January's issue is coming fast?

Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via snail
mail beyond the premier July issue?

My inquiring mind wants to know.

Thanks,
Ed

- Original Message - 
From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com

To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites  Magazines


Meteorites For Sale: Having a large sale from now until the Tucson Show. 
Order over $250 get 10% off. See details on my meteorites for sale page.

http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/

Check out the Meteorite Auctions: Many items starting at 99 cents!
http://shop.ebay.com/freel3orn/m.html

Subscribe to Meteorite Hunting  Collecting Magazine: 25% Off Until The 
Tucson Show!

http://www.mhcmagazine.com/subscribe/

Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have them 
at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or the 
Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for *$10* 
each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!) 
Everyone will start receiving their magazines direct from our printer in 
the coming weeks! Please let me know when you start receiving them. 
EVERYONE's orders with their collectibles are still shipping in the order 
they were received.


January Issue UPDATE: Also, just a heads up on the January issue! It's 
coming fast, this issue will be on Planetary Defense, our beloved 
meteorites, and their relationship to the science of protecting our planet 
from those pesky 1/km+ sized asteroids. In addition there are some great 
aticles about meteorite hunting here in the USA, and a special article 
about how many meteorites actually fall on this planet each day. It's NOT 
what you would think. Is it more? Less? You'll just have to get a 
subscription to find out.


Enjoy...

Email or Call 760-522-2152 to order.

Regards,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Blast From The Past Sorry For Double Post Forgot to Mention.. AD - Park Forest, Buck Mountain, SaW 005, And More!!

2011-01-18 Thread Larry Atkins

List,

Sorry for the double AD post but I forgot to mention that you should 
look at the oriented SaW 005 wash ad and click the link to the 
Smallest Oriented Meteorite Contest. I'm sure there are quite a few 
of you that will remember this and quite a few new people that have 
never seen this. There are some amazing meteorites to see here. Be sure 
to click photo's to enlarge and get a good look at these truly amazing 
meteorites.


Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
 
IMCA # 1941
Ebay alienrockfarm
 


-Original Message-
From: Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 6:47 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Park Forest, Buck Mountain, SaW 005, And 
More!!



Hello List, 
 
I have some great items ending now including a part slice of an L 
chondrite from Franconia that I found. Sacramento Wash 005 that I found 
some years back, which may be the worlds 4th smallest oriented iron! (I 
guess that could be debatable!) I also have 4 Park Forest pieces from 
my brothers spectacular 638 gram specimen that he found, weighing at 
about a gram or less each, that are still at about $1.00. There's a 
piece of my big Holbrook, a piece of Mifflin (not from my find) and a 
big chunk of the paleo EL chondrite. Oh yea, a whole Franconia stone I 
found with pic's and coord's. There's another one or two as well. 

 
http://shop.ebay.com/alienrockfarm/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 
 
Thanks for looking, and good luck if you bid! 
 
Sincerely, 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Grossman
I just took a quick look as some of the reviews of this book that were 
written by CT newspapers, and I will have to read the book to determine the 
accuracy of some of the statements.


1.  As far as the birth of American science - science-oriented statesman 
Benjamin Franklin preceded Benjamin Silliman in giving American science a 
name abroad.  He was held in the highest respect as a scientist just as much 
as a statesman in Europe for his electrical investigations, and attended the 
salon of the Lavoisiers in Paris regularly.


2. What happened to mention of James Woodhouse of Philadelphia (1770-1809), 
who had a laboratory in Philadelphia that Joseph Priestly, the discover of 
oxygen, used to visit?  Woodhouse also analyzed the Weston stone, but 
off-hand, I don't know who has priority.  I hope the book mentions 
Woodhouse.


3.  Weston - the first scientific investigation that proved that meteorites 
came from outer space?  What happened to mention of Edward Howard, L'Aigle, 
Chladni, etc.?


Again, I haven't read the book yet, so perhaps the reporting is inaccurate. 
But if there is any truth to reviews that I have seen, this book is headed 
for trouble.


I would be interested in any comments from those who have already had a 
chance to read or peruse the book.


Thanks.

Mark


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Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...



There is a new book out:

http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=37_167
products_id=2027

I'll be reading it this week and hope to give a review soon. Looks like it
will be good!

(Thanks to R. Wesel for the gift!)

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: [meteorite-list] Seeking Impact Materials

2011-01-18 Thread Ted Bunch
You ask a lot - there are good impactites offered at the Tucson show and on
the internet. If you collected in the Raton Pass/ S of Trinidad road cuts
along the Interstate or outlier sites from the Interstate in the region, I
hope you had a knowledgeable field guide with you. Most of these exposures
are slumped over. If you collected elsewhere in the region at a clean
site, the fireball layer is difficult to resolve even if you are a trained
geologist and even then, it is a ball buster to recognize the K/T layer.
Clay layer look-a likes are intercalated with thinly bedded carbonaceous
shales and coal seams and this sequence is typically meters thick on either
side of the boundary.

Good luck,

Ted Bunch



On 1/18/11 5:42 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends,
 I would like to put together an educational collection of impact materials.  I
 need examples of a variety of impactites.  I've got tektites and moldavite,
 but would like partial melts, highly shocked materials, breccias, suevites,
 and so on, with their crater of origin (and preferably location in relation to
 the crater).  I particularly need materials that will show microscopic shock
 alteration features in thin section.  I recently collected a quantity of
 really nice coherent samples of KT boundary material from the legendary
 outcrops near Trinidad, in Southern Colorado, and would be happy to send a
 provenanced piece of this, along with my sincere thanks, to anyone that is
 willing to send me nice, labeled materials that I can use.
 
 Please reply off list, and I will supply my personal mailing address and get
 yours (if you are interested in the KT material in return).
 Thank you, in advance, for your assistance.
 -Robert Beauford
 
 
   
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[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 6292 (NWA 5400 paired) thin sections 4 available

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Catterton
I am finally back online. Been a very crazy few weeks. Sorry to all I have not 
caught up with. Will be in touch soon, I have many emails to go over.
That said,
I need to raise some cash.

I have 4 thin sections (uncovered) of NWA 6292 which as we all know is paired 
with the famous NWA 5400.

These are huge, thumbprint sized sections of a hand picked slice. You simple 
wont find better quality sections anywhere else of this material at this price.

I am asking only $300 per section and can provide pics on request. I dont 
expect these to last long, whats left will go onto ebay at $350.00 when I get 
to listing many new meteorites tonight.

I also have one available for loan - but considering the value and material, I 
wish to only offer to those that can make use of these for research and study.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] Seeking Impact Materials

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Beauford
Ted,
Yes.  It was no small process to collect the samples.  Weeks of research went 
in to preparing for the trip, and even at that I did not feel confident enough 
in what I initially collected along the highway to reliably call it KT boundary 
material, for exactly the reasons you point out,... though I did spend quite a 
while squatting precariously on a very uncomfortably steep slope over the cut 
above the access road.  I did finally locate the iconic layer in a good clear 
exposure outside nearby Cokedale, a location that has been decribed as one of 
the best in the world.  After collecting, I followed the exposure for a half 
mile or so down the railroad tracks there... a truly memorable walk.  If I 
didn't have hundreds of hours of experience tracing subtle difference in 
dolomite and slight variations in sand or silt content in limestone for miles 
through the valleys of the Ozarks, I don't know that I would have found it.
As it is, it was one of my more enjoyable outings.  
-Robert Beauford

--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net wrote:

 From: Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Seeking Impact Materials
 To: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com, 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:20 AM
 You ask a lot - there are good
 impactites offered at the Tucson show and on
 the internet. If you collected in the Raton Pass/ S of
 Trinidad road cuts
 along the Interstate or outlier sites from the Interstate
 in the region, I
 hope you had a knowledgeable field guide with you. Most of
 these exposures
 are slumped over. If you collected elsewhere in the region
 at a clean
 site, the fireball layer is difficult to resolve even if
 you are a trained
 geologist and even then, it is a ball buster to recognize
 the K/T layer.
 Clay layer look-a likes are intercalated with thinly bedded
 carbonaceous
 shales and coal seams and this sequence is typically meters
 thick on either
 side of the boundary.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Ted Bunch
 
 
 
 On 1/18/11 5:42 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear friends,
  I would like to put together an educational collection
 of impact materials.  I
  need examples of a variety of impactites.  I've
 got tektites and moldavite,
  but would like partial melts, highly shocked
 materials, breccias, suevites,
  and so on, with their crater of origin (and preferably
 location in relation to
  the crater).  I particularly need materials that
 will show microscopic shock
  alteration features in thin section.  I recently
 collected a quantity of
  really nice coherent samples of KT boundary material
 from the legendary
  outcrops near Trinidad, in Southern Colorado, and
 would be happy to send a
  provenanced piece of this, along with my sincere
 thanks, to anyone that is
  willing to send me nice, labeled materials that I can
 use.
  
  Please reply off list, and I will supply my personal
 mailing address and get
  yours (if you are interested in the KT material in
 return).
  Thank you, in advance, for your assistance.
  -Robert Beauford
  
  
        
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bandli
Hello Mark,

I'm now half way through the book and can report that Prince does explain
and relate everyone in your #2. I think the reader will find Silliman's and
Woodhouse's relationship to the Weston fall quite interesting.

As for #1, I think perhaps Turning Point would have been a better choice
and less controversial than Birth. She has made a strong case so far,
though, as it pertains to the general state of science in America at the
time.

I haven't found anything yet that confirms the wild review claim in your #3,
but I still have half a book to go. I did find myself having to re-read
several paragraphs after thinking That's not true!, only to realize that
it was prefixed with ...the first *American* to... You'll see that Prince
is very careful with her wording in some places and it seems to me that, at
times, this can pump up Silliman's accomplishments. She does write that
Silliman drew on the work of Chladni and discusses other falls and figures
later in the book, but really tries to stay within the parameters of
American figures, events, and milestones.

There are a couple of glaring errors related to meteorite history that do
stick out. I'll see if others pick up on them as well.

So far it is a solid book. The accounts of the Weston fall are particularly
fun and Prince does a good job painting an image of early life and hardship
in Weston and the fall as described by the residents.

I'll finish the rest tomorrow.

Time for bed...

Cheers,

Mike
 
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Grossman [mailto:mar...@westnet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:00 PM
To: Mike Bandli; 'Jason Utas'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

I just took a quick look as some of the reviews of this book that were 
written by CT newspapers, and I will have to read the book to determine the 
accuracy of some of the statements.

1.  As far as the birth of American science - science-oriented statesman 
Benjamin Franklin preceded Benjamin Silliman in giving American science a 
name abroad.  He was held in the highest respect as a scientist just as much

as a statesman in Europe for his electrical investigations, and attended the

salon of the Lavoisiers in Paris regularly.

2. What happened to mention of James Woodhouse of Philadelphia (1770-1809), 
who had a laboratory in Philadelphia that Joseph Priestly, the discover of 
oxygen, used to visit?  Woodhouse also analyzed the Weston stone, but 
off-hand, I don't know who has priority.  I hope the book mentions 
Woodhouse.

3.  Weston - the first scientific investigation that proved that meteorites 
came from outer space?  What happened to mention of Edward Howard, L'Aigle, 
Chladni, etc.?

Again, I haven't read the book yet, so perhaps the reporting is inaccurate. 
But if there is any truth to reviews that I have seen, this book is headed 
for trouble.

I would be interested in any comments from those who have already had a 
chance to read or peruse the book.

Thanks.

Mark


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From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net
To: 'Jason Utas' meteorite...@gmail.com; 'Meteorite-list' 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:29 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...


 There is a new book out:


http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=37_167
 products_id=2027

 I'll be reading it this week and hope to give a review soon. Looks like it
 will be good!

 (Thanks to R. Wesel for the gift!)

 Cheers,

 Mike

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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

2011-01-18 Thread Mark Grossman

Hi Mike,

I just ordered my copy online, so it will take me a few days to get the 
book.


But Franklin was a real scientist - a respected one at that in Europe.  So 
I'll have to see what the book says for myself.


Regarding Woodhouse, Silliman seems to have had a bad relationship with him 
and would not show him his manuscript on the Weston meteorite when he went 
to visit Woodhouse in Philadelphia.  It should also be pointed out that 
Woodhouse was Silliman's chemistry teacher, and died soon after the Weston 
meteorite literature was published, so he didn't really get a chance to 
discuss it.  But he did conduct an analysis of the Weston stone, perhaps 
before Silliman - I am in the process of obtaining the original papers.  The 
question is how good the analyses were.


So, you have the advantage on me since you have the book!  :-)  I'll have to 
take a wait and see attitude until I have a chance to read it.


But anyone who says that the Weston meteorite was the birth of American 
science in light of the accomplishments of Franklin and Woodhouse, is going 
to get strange looks from me without providing a pretty good explanation! 
As noted in Burke, both Silliman and Woodhouse were familiar with foreign 
chemical analyses, and knew that they should be looking for nickel.


It's more likely that Silliman's real contribution to American science was 
the establishment of the American Journal of Science in 1818, and not the 
analysis of the Weston meteorite.  Sounds like an exaggerated title for the 
book.


Then again, my impressions have been made from the book reviews, and not the 
book, so we'll see!


Thanks for you initial thoughts, Mike!

Mark


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net
To: 'Mark Grossman' mar...@westnet.com; 'Jason Utas' 
meteorite...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:08 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...



Hello Mark,

I'm now half way through the book and can report that Prince does explain
and relate everyone in your #2. I think the reader will find Silliman's 
and

Woodhouse's relationship to the Weston fall quite interesting.

As for #1, I think perhaps Turning Point would have been a better choice
and less controversial than Birth. She has made a strong case so far,
though, as it pertains to the general state of science in America at the
time.

I haven't found anything yet that confirms the wild review claim in your 
#3,

but I still have half a book to go. I did find myself having to re-read
several paragraphs after thinking That's not true!, only to realize that
it was prefixed with ...the first *American* to... You'll see that 
Prince
is very careful with her wording in some places and it seems to me that, 
at

times, this can pump up Silliman's accomplishments. She does write that
Silliman drew on the work of Chladni and discusses other falls and figures
later in the book, but really tries to stay within the parameters of
American figures, events, and milestones.

There are a couple of glaring errors related to meteorite history that do
stick out. I'll see if others pick up on them as well.

So far it is a solid book. The accounts of the Weston fall are 
particularly
fun and Prince does a good job painting an image of early life and 
hardship

in Weston and the fall as described by the residents.

I'll finish the rest tomorrow.

Time for bed...

Cheers,

Mike

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-Original Message-
From: Mark Grossman [mailto:mar...@westnet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:00 PM
To: Mike Bandli; 'Jason Utas'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Weston...

I just took a quick look as some of the reviews of this book that were
written by CT newspapers, and I will have to read the book to determine 
the

accuracy of some of the statements.

1.  As far as the birth of American science - science-oriented statesman
Benjamin Franklin preceded Benjamin Silliman in giving American science a
name abroad.  He was held in the highest respect as a scientist just as 
much


as a statesman in Europe for his electrical investigations, and attended 
the


salon of the Lavoisiers in Paris regularly.

2. What happened to mention of James Woodhouse of Philadelphia 
(1770-1809),

who had a laboratory in Philadelphia that Joseph Priestly, the discover of
oxygen, used to visit?  Woodhouse also analyzed the Weston stone, but
off-hand, I don't know who has priority.  I hope the book mentions
Woodhouse.

3.  Weston - the first scientific investigation that proved that 
meteorites
came from outer space?  What happened to mention of Edward Howard, 
L'Aigle,

Chladni, etc.?

Again, I haven't read the book yet, so perhaps the reporting is