[meteorite-list] [AD] Canyon Diablo 2,7 kg. CHEAP!
Listoids, Canyon Diablo individual 2,7 kg. (cleaned) Offers starting at 900 dollars (+ shipping) will be concidered. Ask for picture off list pls. Best, Jan IMCA 9833 Holland __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geophysics, meteorites, and Electron microscopy
Could someone tell me, in Microscopy 101 language: How is an electron microscope used in the study of meteorites? Using electron microscopy - what differences are apparent between meteorites and terrestrial rocks? For instance what are the microscopy differences between lunar basalt and terrestrial basalt? Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geophysics, meteorites, and Electron microscopy
A scanning electron microscope (SEM) is great for high magnification images that also contain information about the chemical composition of the different minerals in meteorites. SEM is also a quick way to do a qualitative analysis of a sample, say for example, detecting nickel in iron meteorites with energy dispersive spectroscopy (EDS). My instrument of choice for definitive ID of stony meteorites is the electron microprobe. This also has SEM imaging capability. In less the hour, on a calibrated electron microprobe, I can make a definitive ID, although unequilbrated chondrites can take more time to narrow down the possibilities. Some of the key geochemical quantities that help in categorizing are, Fe/Mn of olivines and pyroxenes, the fayalite and ferrosilite content of the olivines and pyroxenes, the anorthite-albite content of plagioclse, and a few other parameters, plus the percent mineralogy and other textural characteristics. So for a simple example lunar olivines usually have higher Fe/Mn than terrestrial basalt olivines. Check out this page's second figure for an overview of Fe/Mn versus plagioclase content of planetary basalts: http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites.htm Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://epswww.unm.edu/iom/pers/agee.html l-- Geophysics, meteorites, and Electron microscopy Barb and Jake Baker bakers5acres at frontiernet.net Tue Sep 6 10:50:46 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] [AD] Canyon Diablo 2,7 kg. CHEAP! Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Could someone tell me, in Microscopy 101 language: How is an electron microscope used in the study of meteorites? Using electron microscopy - what differences are apparent between meteorites and terrestrial rocks? For instance what are the microscopy differences between lunar basalt and terrestrial basalt? Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
For you reading pleasure, a LONG message from Steve Curry to... well... a heck of a lot of people. P.S. I'm not even a member of the IMCA, so I'm not sure how I can tender my resignation. Can I find two members to vouch for me so I can join, just in case I need to resign? Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) From: Steve Curry [mailto:cwhei...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:24 AM To: wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton; mexicod...@aim.com; countde...@earthlink.net; daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list; JoshuaTreeMuseum; yeom...@gmail.com; mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev; Randy L. Korotev; John Wasson; James Wittke; Roger Warin; Ken Newton; Stuart McDaniel; Dr. Michael Zolensky; Dr. Timothy McCoy; Maria Haas; Anne Black; Carl Agee; Chris A. Peterson; Dr. Alex Ruzicka; Tim Stout; Galactic Stone Ironworks; kevin.righter-1; Rainer Newberry; Ted Bunch; onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito; Tomasz Jakubowski; Ian A. Franchi; Zeus Crankypants; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan; Matthew Benjamin; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. You can, also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias, or prejudice. Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair, and honestly! You can trust, too, that the stakes are extremely high! Just for sport, I'm going to name this game, HIGH NOON IN WESTERN COLORADO!..Even though, this dual will be held in the evening. I am giving a meteorite lecture seminar at the Delta County Library, on September 20, 2011, @ 6:00pm. If Mr. Hupe can trust his fellow IMCA member, Blaine Reed, Mr. Hupe is to send a specimen sample of the NWA 5000 to Mr. Reed. Mr. Blain Reed must show up at this lecture, armed with his new toy, as in his XRF hand-held analyzer. I, too, will show up with our XRF hand-held analyzer, which will be operated by an experienced geologist from Western Colorado. Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will conduct XRF analysis on both the NWA 5000, and our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia. Both stones will be analyzed using the Precious Metal Mode, and the Prospector Mode, which will produce elemental percentages, and elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). The results from Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will be recorded by a officer from the Delta County Sheriff's office, which is next door to the library. The analysis will, then, be compared by a jury of 12 men women, in our audience, to those figures obtained from NASA's Apollo Lunar Sample Atlas, and the Lunar
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Sorry, but this is unnacceptable unless The Amazing Randi is somehow involved. This may finally put an end to the meteoritical activities of Chicago Steve! Sorry Steve, I'm just jealous that you were included on the illustrious list. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! For you reading pleasure, a LONG message from Steve Curry to... well... a heck of a lot of people. P.S. I'm not even a member of the IMCA, so I'm not sure how I can tender my resignation. Can I find two members to vouch for me so I can join, just in case I need to resign? Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) From: Steve Curry [mailto:cwhei...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:24 AM To: wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton; mexicod...@aim.com; countde...@earthlink.net; daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list; JoshuaTreeMuseum; yeom...@gmail.com; mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev; Randy L. Korotev; John Wasson; James Wittke; Roger Warin; Ken Newton; Stuart McDaniel; Dr. Michael Zolensky; Dr. Timothy McCoy; Maria Haas; Anne Black; Carl Agee; Chris A. Peterson; Dr. Alex Ruzicka; Tim Stout; Galactic Stone Ironworks; kevin.righter-1; Rainer Newberry; Ted Bunch; onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito; Tomasz Jakubowski; Ian A. Franchi; Zeus Crankypants; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan; Matthew Benjamin; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. You can, also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias, or prejudice. Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair, and honestly! You can trust, too, that the stakes are extremely high! Just for sport, I'm going to name this game, HIGH NOON IN WESTERN COLORADO!..Even though, this dual will be held in the evening. I am giving a meteorite lecture seminar at the Delta County Library, on September 20, 2011, @ 6:00pm. If Mr. Hupe can trust his fellow IMCA member, Blaine Reed, Mr. Hupe is to send a specimen sample of the NWA 5000 to Mr. Reed. Mr. Blain Reed must show up at this lecture, armed with his new toy, as in his XRF hand-held analyzer. I, too, will show up with our XRF hand-held analyzer, which will be operated by an experienced geologist from Western Colorado. Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will conduct XRF analysis on both the NWA 5000, and our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia. Both stones will be analyzed using the Precious Metal Mode,
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
LOL! I find it interesting how if he wins everyone else has to never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as they may live! However, if he loses, all he has to do is apologize... I think that to be fair he should also agree to never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as he lives! And if so many scientists and analysts have said his material is not meteoritic... well, that one paragraph proved to me what a loony that guy is... Clear Skies! Elizabeth On 9/6/2011 12:34 PM, Walter L. Newton wrote: For you reading pleasure, a LONG message from Steve Curry to... well... a heck of a lot of people. From: Steve Curry [mailto:cwhei...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! [snip] Dr. Randy Korotev, WUSTL; Dr. Carl Agee, UNM; Dr. Lawrence Garvie, ASU, Dr. Alex Ruzika, Cascadia Meteorite Lab, Portland State University, Dr. John T. Wasson, UCLA, Dr. Alan Rubin, UCLA, Dr. Michael Zolensky, NASA's JSC, Dr. Timothy McCoy, Smithsonian Institute; Dr. Arthur Elmann, TCU; Dr. Rainer Newberry, UA@Fairbanks; Dr. Chris Peterson, Caltech/Denver Museum of Nature Science; Dr. Theodore Bunch, NAU; Dr. John Wittke, NAU; and Melinda Hutson, Cascadia Meteorite Lab, Portland State University. Should it be found, that our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia does not match, in any way, shape, or form, to Mr. Hupe's NWA 5000, or to that of the Apollo Lunar Samples of Feldspathic Breccias, or meteorites posted with the Lunar Planetary Institute's Lunar Meteorite Compendium, Mr. Curry will, without hesitation, close his Ebay posting of the Uncompahgre Lunar Meteorite, permanently, and forever. Mr. Curry will also initiate a Public Letter of Apology to Mr. Hupe, members of the IMCA, and to above named scientists. [snip] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Bona Petite ?! lol - a perfect ending Or better yet. Bada bada bada that's all folks!' o(;?-D Mark B Vail, AZ From: Steve Curry [mailto:cwhei...@gmail.com] Cheers Bona Petite! Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon!
Hi Steve, One thing I am unsure of after hearing all this. Are you representing that your material (the stuff described by you as Lunar) is *unequivocably Lunar*, or just that it is *either Lunar or Terrestrial but similar to Lunar*? Isn't that the important question to answer? Great to hear your side of this first hand finally! As one who cannot go to Colorado to witness this epic duel, could you kindly comment on what control samples (Earth rocks) will be used during the proposed show-down with the XRF, and exactly what is the hypothesis being tested (i.e., that they are Lunar? or that by picking and choosing your analysis parameters you can make the point that they share some common characteristics ? For example, aluminum and glass both have a density of 2.7 cubic centimeters. If I set up a test saying I will prove aluminum and glass are the same thing by checking their density, I am picking the parameters and if someone says, lets check if it is an electrical conductor or insultor and I say, no!, it's over... then, what is the point and who would participate in such a duel, if all you are willing to define as aluminum is anthing with a density of 2.7 g/cm^3? Why not just submit your specimen to a Meteoritical Society approved scientist (like Hupe did for NWA 5000) and get it scientifically authenticated by just one independent scientist for publication in the Meteoritical Bulletin - this is what every other meteorite finder does. Then you'd be done with it! The MetSoc is independent of the IMCA so there is no conflict there. If for some reason there is a problem with that, can you explain why you don't do that? That is the issue I cannot understand, and which tends to have others question the material's provnance. What will the duel prove scientifically if you determine which parameters and only which parameters are tested, and how they are tested and do not leave the testing open to peer review which is a necessary part of the scientific authentication process? Informally, if you can post a picture of a specimen with obvious fusion crust you could probably gain favor on this list. Do you have such a picture you are willing to post? Kindest wishes and good luck Doug -Original Message- From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com; mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com; countdeiro countde...@earthlink.net; daistiho daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteorites stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteorites raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; yeomega yeom...@gmail.com; mikestang mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collector star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmhupe gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_wray daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60120 stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolotyis axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu; Randy L. Korotev r...@levee.wustl.edu; John Wasson jtwas...@ucla.edu; James Wittke james.wit...@nau.edu; Roger Warin roger.wa...@skynet.be; Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com; Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; Dr. Michael Zolensky michael.e.zolen...@nasa.gov; Dr. Timothy McCoy mcc...@si.edu; Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com; Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Carl Agee a...@unm.edu; Chris A. Peterson pr...@higp.hawaii.edu; Dr. Alex Ruzicka ruzic...@pdx.edu; Tim Stout tim_97...@yahoo.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; kevin.righter-1 kevin.righte...@nasa.gov; Rainer Newberry rjnewbe...@alaska.edu; Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net; ontheroad onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito i...@lpi.usra.edu; Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl; Ian A. Franchi i.a.fran...@open.ac.uk; Zeus Crankypants zeus.crankypa...@yahoo.com; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan corrig...@si.edu; Matthew Benjamin matthew.benja...@colorado.edu; lebofsky lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Hi List, I would suggest deleting Steve C.s emails from now on. Steve got exactly what he was after now that this garbage has been posted to the List. His San Juan breccia has already been studied and denounced by the most qualified laboratories. He refuses to follow the same channels the rest of us have to in order to make meteorites official. For some reason, possibly watching too much television, he thinks that he is better than everybody else, can set his own rules and become an instant millionaire. Sorry, Steve, despite what the voices in your head might be telling you, your gaggle of Moon Rocks is not better than the NASA Apollo returned collection! He now wants more attention with this fake showdown which will accomplish nothing because the results would not be what he wants to hear or believe. He has the nerve to question the integrity of the best planetary scientists in the world in his latest ramblings. He now thinks by comparing his terrestrial rocks to best lunar meteorite in the world that he can gain even more notoriety. He does not deserve any more attention. I will certainly not degrade a piece of real NWA 5K by engaging in this ridiculous High Noon challenge. My challenge to Stevy is how many Denver Death Cookies can he drink at Denver show at Teddy's Bar? Enough of this crap already, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: [COMETS] Berthoud (Colorado) meteorite coin will be auctioned at the COMETS auction at the Denver Show
- Forwarded Message From: Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com To: rockhou...@drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors rockhou...@lists.drizzle.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: cometeoritec...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 8:41:37 AM Subject: [COMETS] Berthoud (Colorado) meteorite coin will be auctioned at the COMETS auction at the Denver Show Hi All! Fred Olsen let me know that we have received the customized Berthoud Eucrite Meteorite coins from the stamper (or whoever does that kind of thing) and we will be auctioning #001 at our annual auction NEXT WEEK! The coin is very cool Please see the following web page for coin details and pictures: http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/articles/berthoud_coin.htm Auction details are on this page: http://www.peaktopeak.com/comets/auction.htm Regards, Bob Loeffler Colorado Meteorite Society (COMETS) _ From: debf...@att.net [mailto:debf...@att.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:26 PM To: b...@peaktopeak.com Subject: meteorite coin and auction Bob, I just got the coins, I do plan on auctioning this #001 coin in our auction. Others will be available on ebay. Also a write up on coin: This 2 inch diameter medal was made to commerate the fall of the Berthoud, Colorado eucrite meteorite at 1:33 pm on October 5th, 2004 . A single 960 gram stone was observed to hit the ground in a horse pen about 100 feet south of the farm house depicted on the coin. Longs Peak, a 14,000 ft tall mountain can be seen to the west in the background. The beautiful glossy black crusted stone was recovered just minutes after it fell. It is just the second Colorado meteorite collected on the day it fell. The other side of the medal shows the incredible image of the asteroid Vesta from the spacecraft DAWN taken on July 24, 2011. Vesta is the presumed parent body of the HED meteorites including the Berthoud eucrite along with the Johnstown diogenite which fell 5 miles east of the Berthoud fall some eighty years earlier. Johnstown is the other meteorite recovered on the day it fell, 4:20 pm on July 6th, 1924. The Colorado Meteorite Society COMETS is working to find a donor or donors to keep the 247g crusted main mass for display in a Colorado Museum. If you want to put this on website OK Regards, Fred _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3872 - Release Date: 09/02/11 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE A bad score is 598. A bad idea is not checking yours, at freecreditscore.com. Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. The only non-awesome part of that email was how I was somehow left off the Thinks Steve Curry is a Moron list. I feel cheated. Cheers, Marc Fries Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List, I would suggest deleting Steve C.s emails from now on. Steve got exactly what he was after now that this garbage has been posted to the List. His San Juan breccia has already been studied and denounced by the most qualified laboratories. He refuses to follow the same channels the rest of us have to in order to make meteorites official. For some reason, possibly watching too much television, he thinks that he is better than everybody else, can set his own rules and become an instant millionaire. Sorry, Steve, despite what the voices in your head might be telling you, your gaggle of Moon Rocks is not better than the NASA Apollo returned collection! He now wants more attention with this fake showdown which will accomplish nothing because the results would not be what he wants to hear or believe. He has the nerve to question the integrity of the best planetary scientists in the world in his latest ramblings. He now thinks by comparing his terrestrial rocks to best lunar meteorite in the world that he can gain even more notoriety. He does not deserve any more attention. I will certainly not degrade a piece of real NWA 5K by engaging in this ridiculous High Noon challenge. My challenge to Stevy is how many Denver Death Cookies can he drink at Denver show at Teddy's Bar? Enough of this crap already, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Hi Gang, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think one simple fact is being overlooked by almost everyone involved here, and this simple criteria is the ultimate litmus test that definitively confirm or deny a terrestrial origin for a given sample... Drumroll please Cosmic ray exposure data. Elemental analysis is fine and dandy, and it can answer many questions, but it cannot definitively confirm or deny the terrestrial (or meteoritic) origin for a sample. It simply states what elements are present in the sample and in what concentrations (within a margin of error) these elements are present. As we all know, some lunar and martian meteorites are very similar in elemental composition to their terrestrial analogs. But, terrestrial rocks have never been exposed to cosmic rays. By contrast, all meteorites have been exposed to cosmic rays during their journey from the parent body to Earth. This exposure leaves tell-tale markers in the material. Of course, I am over-simplifying to some degree, and the cosmic ray exposure clock can be reset by certain events, but those events also leave their own signatures. Simple XRF analysis, and/or visual comparisons will not cut it to make a truly definitive and authoritative judgement on the origins of a rock. Run cosmic ray exposure studies on the material in question - if it was exposed to cosmic rays, then that material has spent time outside of Earth's protective shield. Once that has been established, then the samples can be subjected to SEM (scanning electron microprobe) to determine the composition of the material to a more accurate and specific degree than the XRF will reveal. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 9/6/11, Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu wrote: Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. The only non-awesome part of that email was how I was somehow left off the Thinks Steve Curry is a Moron list. I feel cheated. Cheers, Marc Fries Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List, I would suggest deleting Steve C.s emails from now on. Steve got exactly what he was after now that this garbage has been posted to the List. His San Juan breccia has already been studied and denounced by the most qualified laboratories. He refuses to follow the same channels the rest of us have to in order to make meteorites official. For some reason, possibly watching too much television, he thinks that he is better than everybody else, can set his own rules and become an instant millionaire. Sorry, Steve, despite what the voices in your head might be telling you, your gaggle of Moon Rocks is not better than the NASA Apollo returned collection! He now wants more attention with this fake showdown which will accomplish nothing because the results would not be what he wants to hear or believe. He has the nerve to question the integrity of the best planetary scientists in the world in his latest ramblings. He now thinks by comparing his terrestrial rocks to best lunar meteorite in the world that he can gain even more notoriety. He does not deserve any more attention. I will certainly not degrade a piece of real NWA 5K by engaging in this ridiculous High Noon challenge. My challenge to Stevy is how many Denver Death Cookies can he drink at Denver show at Teddy's Bar? Enough of this crap already, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
John McCutcheon has a great song called The List about Clear Channel, the right-wing owner of many American radio stations. A few years ago they put out a list of songs that their stations weren't allowed to play (by John Lennon, Queen, Bruce Springsteen, Jackson Browne, Van Halen, Kansas, Pink Floyd, Louis Armstrong, James Taylor...) The song isn't directly about Clear Channel, but is McCutcheon's personal lament and feeling of disgrace that he didn't find his own name on the list. That came to mind when I saw the names in Curry's list. If you're a reputable scientist disappointed to have been overlooked by Curry, you should send him an email (I'm guessing that everybody who has ever communicated with him is listed). Maybe it's not to late to make the list! Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 9/6/2011 12:58 PM, Marc Fries wrote: Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. The only non-awesome part of that email was how I was somehow left off the Thinks Steve Curry is a Moron list. I feel cheated. Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Well, sure Mike, why use reason and logic in this 'debate'?!? Where would the world be if we all did that? This 'debate' is why I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows. I have had too many of them come back and ask why I had meteorite-list on my handout of website information for customers. I received so many negative comments/complaints about petty bickering (and NOT so petty!) that I've removed it. I keep asking myself Why do I continue to subscribe? It is getting harder and harder to come up with a valid reason ... just stubborn I guess! Just my two coppers worth ... John -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM To: Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Hi Gang, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think one simple fact is being overlooked by almost everyone involved here, and this simple criteria is the ultimate litmus test that definitively confirm or deny a terrestrial origin for a given sample... Drumroll please Cosmic ray exposure data. Elemental analysis is fine and dandy, and it can answer many questions, but it cannot definitively confirm or deny the terrestrial (or meteoritic) origin for a sample. It simply states what elements are present in the sample and in what concentrations (within a margin of error) these elements are present. As we all know, some lunar and martian meteorites are very similar in elemental composition to their terrestrial analogs. But, terrestrial rocks have never been exposed to cosmic rays. By contrast, all meteorites have been exposed to cosmic rays during their journey from the parent body to Earth. This exposure leaves tell-tale markers in the material. Of course, I am over-simplifying to some degree, and the cosmic ray exposure clock can be reset by certain events, but those events also leave their own signatures. Simple XRF analysis, and/or visual comparisons will not cut it to make a truly definitive and authoritative judgement on the origins of a rock. Run cosmic ray exposure studies on the material in question - if it was exposed to cosmic rays, then that material has spent time outside of Earth's protective shield. Once that has been established, then the samples can be subjected to SEM (scanning electron microprobe) to determine the composition of the material to a more accurate and specific degree than the XRF will reveal. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 9/6/11, Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu wrote: Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. The only non-awesome part of that email was how I was somehow left off the Thinks Steve Curry is a Moron list. I feel cheated. Cheers, Marc Fries Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List, I would suggest deleting Steve C.s emails from now on. Steve got exactly what he was after now that this garbage has been posted to the List. His San Juan breccia has already been studied and denounced by the most qualified laboratories. He refuses to follow the same channels the rest of us have to in order to make meteorites official. For some reason, possibly watching too much television, he thinks that he is better than everybody else, can set his own rules and become an instant millionaire. Sorry, Steve, despite what the voices in your head might be telling you, your gaggle of Moon Rocks is not better than the NASA Apollo returned collection! He now wants more attention with this fake showdown which will accomplish nothing because the results would not be what he wants to hear or believe. He has the nerve to question the integrity of the best planetary scientists in the world in his latest ramblings. He now thinks by comparing his terrestrial rocks to best lunar meteorite in the world that he can gain even more notoriety. He does not deserve any more attention. I will certainly not degrade a piece of real NWA 5K by engaging in this ridiculous High Noon challenge. My challenge to Stevy is how many Denver Death Cookies can he drink at Denver show at Teddy's Bar? Enough of this crap already, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Hi John: Don't let the door hit you in the tuchus on your way out! Phil Whitmer - Original Message - From: John Teague volg...@icx.net To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Well, sure Mike, why use reason and logic in this 'debate'?!? Where would the world be if we all did that? This 'debate' is why I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows. I have had too many of them come back and ask why I had meteorite-list on my handout of website information for customers. I received so many negative comments/complaints about petty bickering (and NOT so petty!) that I've removed it. I keep asking myself Why do I continue to subscribe? It is getting harder and harder to come up with a valid reason ... just stubborn I guess! Just my two coppers worth ... John -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM To: Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Hi Gang, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think one simple fact is being overlooked by almost everyone involved here, and this simple criteria is the ultimate litmus test that definitively confirm or deny a terrestrial origin for a given sample... Drumroll please Cosmic ray exposure data. Elemental analysis is fine and dandy, and it can answer many questions, but it cannot definitively confirm or deny the terrestrial (or meteoritic) origin for a sample. It simply states what elements are present in the sample and in what concentrations (within a margin of error) these elements are present. As we all know, some lunar and martian meteorites are very similar in elemental composition to their terrestrial analogs. But, terrestrial rocks have never been exposed to cosmic rays. By contrast, all meteorites have been exposed to cosmic rays during their journey from the parent body to Earth. This exposure leaves tell-tale markers in the material. Of course, I am over-simplifying to some degree, and the cosmic ray exposure clock can be reset by certain events, but those events also leave their own signatures. Simple XRF analysis, and/or visual comparisons will not cut it to make a truly definitive and authoritative judgement on the origins of a rock. Run cosmic ray exposure studies on the material in question - if it was exposed to cosmic rays, then that material has spent time outside of Earth's protective shield. Once that has been established, then the samples can be subjected to SEM (scanning electron microprobe) to determine the composition of the material to a more accurate and specific degree than the XRF will reveal. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 9/6/11, Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu wrote: Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. The only non-awesome part of that email was how I was somehow left off the Thinks Steve Curry is a Moron list. I feel cheated. Cheers, Marc Fries Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List, I would suggest deleting Steve C.s emails from now on. Steve got exactly what he was after now that this garbage has been posted to the List. His San Juan breccia has already been studied and denounced by the most qualified laboratories. He refuses to follow the same channels the rest of us have to in order to make meteorites official. For some reason, possibly watching too much television, he thinks that he is better than everybody else, can set his own rules and become an instant millionaire. Sorry, Steve, despite what the voices in your head might be telling you, your gaggle of Moon Rocks is not better than the NASA Apollo returned collection! He now wants more attention with this fake showdown which will accomplish nothing because the results would not be what he wants to hear or believe. He has the nerve to question the integrity of the best planetary scientists in the world in his latest ramblings. He now thinks by comparing his terrestrial rocks to best lunar meteorite in the world that he can gain even more notoriety. He does not deserve any more attention. I will certainly not degrade a piece of real NWA 5K by engaging in this ridiculous High Noon challenge. My challenge to Stevy is how many Denver
[meteorite-list] High Noon - Update
Interesting, If Mr. Curry is so sure that his rocks are really lunar, then I wonder why he removed the Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia from his Ebay listings? http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Adam, I think you touched a nerve, Stevie is running scared. Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon - Update
Why is there only a feedback of 1? New name? Reason? -Original Message- From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com Sent: Sep 6, 2011 4:24 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] High Noon - Update Interesting, If Mr. Curry is so sure that his rocks are really lunar, then I wonder why he removed the Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia from his Ebay listings? http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Adam, I think you touched a nerve, Stevie is running scared. Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Was : High Noon! - Suggestion about List relevance to meteorites
Hi John and List, Just like how we flag advertisements to the List with the post prefix AD:, then perhaps we could could flag the serious meteorite discussions (science, new fall-find discussions, etc), could be flagged with a prefix like SCI: - lesser or typical meteorite banter would just fly by without a prefix. List members who only want to see very serious discussions could filter out all List emails without the SCI prefix in the subject line. This would limit their influx to discussion about meteoritics, falls/finds, important news, etc. I know this is probably not very practical, and shouldn't be necessary in a perfect world, but maybe it's something to spark a better idea to accomplish the same goal - a better signal to noise ratio on the List. FWIW, the definitions of noise and signal varies from person to person. Also, the amount of noise that is tolerable to a given person also varies widely. It's going to be impossible to perfectly moderate or filter the List to everyone's satisfaction. AFAIK, Art is the only administrator and moderator and he is a single person with a real life outside of this List. Given the number of List members and the average rate of chatter, it would be a full-time job to screen and moderate the List for content. It's one thing to decline messages from people on a ban list, but it's another thing entirely to read every message in the queue for content and relevancy. And even if he could accomplish that, Art's discretion may or may not make every happy all of the time - because he is human and every member is human. Every rational and intelligent List member is a positive asset to the List, and nobody wants to see a List exodus - even the people I have butted heads with in the past, are still people who make valuable positive contributions to the List (well some of them anyway). Even if a person is not particularly liked by some or all, if that person can intelligently discuss meteorites from time to time, then they are an overall asset in my opinion. On a message board/forum, the discussions are broken down into individual topics to organize the discussions - and make it easier to wade through the noise and find the desired signal. We do not have that ability on a mailing list, so it's up to each member to set the squelch to their desired level and reduce the noise to find the signal. The only alternative is a fully moderated List where each post is screened for content. This would require a single person with no life outside of list moderation, or a team of moderators to shoulder the load. Each moderator would be human and subject to their own discretions and that might produce problems with inconsistency between the moderators when it comes to judgement calls on approving posts to the List. To wrap up this ditty, I see this List the way I see my cable TV line-up. Yes, there is stuff I have no interest in, but buried in the lineup of channels, there is usually something of value that I can learn something from. This List is leagues better than TV in terms of signal to noise ratio. To get back on-topic, why don't we discuss the meteorite-relevant data that will soon come out of the NASA Dawn program to Vesta. :) Best regards, MikeG PS - and the simplest solution to this whole mess and it requires no moderators : use your email client to filter out (block) List emails from members that you cannot tolerate or those whose noise to signal ratio is the highest. I've done that over the years, and my enjoyment of the List has increased. On 9/6/11, John Teague volg...@icx.net wrote: Well, sure Mike, why use reason and logic in this 'debate'?!? Where would the world be if we all did that? This 'debate' is why I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows. I have had too many of them come back and ask why I had meteorite-list on my handout of website information for customers. I received so many negative comments/complaints about petty bickering (and NOT so petty!) that I've removed it. I keep asking myself Why do I continue to subscribe? It is getting harder and harder to come up with a valid reason ... just stubborn I guess! Just my two coppers worth ... John -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM To: Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Hi Gang, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think one simple fact is being overlooked by almost everyone involved here, and this simple criteria is the ultimate litmus test that definitively confirm or deny a terrestrial origin for a given sample... Drumroll please Cosmic ray exposure data. Elemental analysis is fine and dandy, and it can answer many questions, but it cannot definitively confirm or deny the terrestrial (or meteoritic) origin for a sample. It simply states what elements are present in the sample and in what
[meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
You are a very funny guy Paul! Maybe I'll sell everything during the Denver Show!! ;-) Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 9/6/2011 2:48:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, valpar...@aol.com writes: Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon!
Hi Steve, I have a question about your data, which seem highly strabismal : Silver, Gold and Palladium seem to all be listed by you as negative concentrations; could you be kind enough to explain this odd claim / data? Because if there isn't a good explanation, the only conclusion is that the tests you are doing are returning gibberish or instrumental artifacts ... and cannot provide any support for your beliefs in extraterrestrial sources. Kindest wishes, Doug Steve wrote: ...elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ... Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6), Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu (156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310). Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K), Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn (4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151). -Original Message- From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com; mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com; countdeiro countde...@earthlink.net; daistiho daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteorites stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteorites raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; yeomega yeom...@gmail.com; mikestang mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collector star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmhupe gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_wray daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60120 stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolotyis axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu; Randy L. Korotev r...@levee.wustl.edu; John Wasson jtwas...@ucla.edu; James Wittke james.wit...@nau.edu; Roger Warin roger.wa...@skynet.be; Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com; Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; Dr. Michael Zolensky michael.e.zolen...@nasa.gov; Dr. Timothy McCoy mcc...@si.edu; Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com; Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Carl Agee a...@unm.edu; Chris A. Peterson pr...@higp.hawaii.edu; Dr. Alex Ruzicka ruzic...@pdx.edu; Tim Stout tim_97...@yahoo.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; kevin.righter-1 kevin.righte...@nasa.gov; Rainer Newberry rjnewbe...@alaska.edu; Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net; ontheroad onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito i...@lpi.usra.edu; Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl; Ian A. Franchi i.a.fran...@open.ac.uk; Zeus Crankypants zeus.crankypa...@yahoo.com; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan corrig...@si.edu; Matthew Benjamin matthew.benja...@colorado.edu; lebofsky lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. You can, also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias, or prejudice. Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair, and honestly! You can trust, too, that
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
Maybe we can have someone hook up a live feed for this 'Moronathon' at the High Noon corral in Denver, since some of us won't be able to make it. Will there be a dunk tank that onlookers can toss fake lunar rocks at some idiot sitting on a throne atop the heap of terrestrial rocks? Splish, splash, he will be taking a bath... Sounds like a catchy tune that can play during the dunk tank ending! :-) -Original Message- From: impact...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:28 PM To: valpar...@aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! You are a very funny guy Paul! Maybe I'll sell everything during the Denver Show!! ;-) Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 9/6/2011 2:48:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, valpar...@aol.com writes: Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon!
He has an explanation elsewhere in the auction text Keep in mind, too, that the negative symbol merely means less-than. (Example: Ag (-7) means that Ag (Silver) is detected, and there is more than 6ppm, but less than 7ppm). Regards, John On 06/09/2011 16:30, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: Hi Steve, I have a question about your data, which seem highly strabismal : Silver, Gold and Palladium seem to all be listed by you as negative concentrations; could you be kind enough to explain this odd claim / data? Because if there isn't a good explanation, the only conclusion is that the tests you are doing are returning gibberish or instrumental artifacts ... and cannot provide any support for your beliefs in extraterrestrial sources. Kindest wishes, Doug Steve wrote: ...elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ... Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6), Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu (156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310). Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K), Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn (4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151). -Original Message- From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com; mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com; countdeiro countde...@earthlink.net; daistiho daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteorites stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteorites raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; yeomega yeom...@gmail.com; mikestang mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collector star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmhupe gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_wray daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60120 stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolotyis axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu; Randy L. Korotev r...@levee.wustl.edu; John Wasson jtwas...@ucla.edu; James Wittke james.wit...@nau.edu; Roger Warin roger.wa...@skynet.be; Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com; Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; Dr. Michael Zolensky michael.e.zolen...@nasa.gov; Dr. Timothy McCoy mcc...@si.edu; Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com; Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Carl Agee a...@unm.edu; Chris A. Peterson pr...@higp.hawaii.edu; Dr. Alex Ruzicka ruzic...@pdx.edu; Tim Stout tim_97...@yahoo.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; kevin.righter-1 kevin.righte...@nasa.gov; Rainer Newberry rjnewbe...@alaska.edu; Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net; ontheroad onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito i...@lpi.usra.edu; Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl; Ian A. Franchi i.a.fran...@open.ac.uk; Zeus Crankypants zeus.crankypa...@yahoo.com; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan corrig...@si.edu; Matthew Benjamin matthew.benja...@colorado.edu; lebofsky lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions,
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
I have dubs on the Reed's hand-held spectrum analyzer. I have a feeling that Super Duper Stevy Meteorite Man Not thinks the entire Western Hemisphere is dependent on this High Noon showdown thing complete with dueling hand triggered XRF ray guns. Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite! Adam - Original Message - From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
or lunar meteorites! I knew that, I was just in a Lunacy Overload State there for a minute. I'm feeling better now. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Marc Fries fr...@psi.edu wrote: Oh come on, Adam! Clearly the good Sheriff is an expert at identifying Martian meteorites. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon - Update
His wife bought it. :-) Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: John Teague Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:36 PM To: Walter L. Newton ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon - Update Why is there only a feedback of 1? New name? Reason? -Original Message- From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com Sent: Sep 6, 2011 4:24 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] High Noon - Update Interesting, If Mr. Curry is so sure that his “rocks” are really lunar, then I wonder why he removed the Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia from his Ebay listings? http://www.ebay.com/sch/uncometeorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Adam, I think you touched a nerve, Stevie is running scared. Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon!
He has his own system of analysis. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:30 PM To: cwhei...@gmail.com ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] High Noon! Hi Steve, I have a question about your data, which seem highly strabismal : Silver, Gold and Palladium seem to all be listed by you as negative concentrations; could you be kind enough to explain this odd claim / data? Because if there isn't a good explanation, the only conclusion is that the tests you are doing are returning gibberish or instrumental artifacts ... and cannot provide any support for your beliefs in extraterrestrial sources. Kindest wishes, Doug Steve wrote: ...elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ... Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6), Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu (156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310). Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K), Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn (4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151). -Original Message- From: Steve Curry cwhei...@gmail.com To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com; mexicodoug mexicod...@aim.com; countdeiro countde...@earthlink.net; daistiho daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteorites stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteorites raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; yeomega yeom...@gmail.com; mikestang mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collector star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmhupe gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_wray daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60120 stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolotyis axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu; Randy L. Korotev r...@levee.wustl.edu; John Wasson jtwas...@ucla.edu; James Wittke james.wit...@nau.edu; Roger Warin roger.wa...@skynet.be; Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com; Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; Dr. Michael Zolensky michael.e.zolen...@nasa.gov; Dr. Timothy McCoy mcc...@si.edu; Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com; Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Carl Agee a...@unm.edu; Chris A. Peterson pr...@higp.hawaii.edu; Dr. Alex Ruzicka ruzic...@pdx.edu; Tim Stout tim_97...@yahoo.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com; kevin.righter-1 kevin.righte...@nasa.gov; Rainer Newberry rjnewbe...@alaska.edu; Ted Bunch tbe...@cableone.net; ontheroad onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito i...@lpi.usra.edu; Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl; Ian A. Franchi i.a.fran...@open.ac.uk; Zeus Crankypants zeus.crankypa...@yahoo.com; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan corrig...@si.edu; Matthew Benjamin matthew.benja...@colorado.edu; lebofsky lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
That is a great idea!!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Greg Hupé Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:39 PM To: impact...@aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Maybe we can have someone hook up a live feed for this 'Moronathon' at the High Noon corral in Denver, since some of us won't be able to make it. Will there be a dunk tank that onlookers can toss fake lunar rocks at some idiot sitting on a throne atop the heap of terrestrial rocks? Splish, splash, he will be taking a bath... Sounds like a catchy tune that can play during the dunk tank ending! :-) -Original Message- From: impact...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:28 PM To: valpar...@aol.com ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! You are a very funny guy Paul! Maybe I'll sell everything during the Denver Show!! ;-) Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 9/6/2011 2:48:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, valpar...@aol.com writes: Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon!
This is a serious crazy person. By serious I mean SERIOUSLY crazy, and an individual to alert law enforcement about. - Original Message - From: Walter L. Newton new...@acrossthebow.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! For you reading pleasure, a LONG message from Steve Curry to... well... a heck of a lot of people. P.S. I'm not even a member of the IMCA, so I'm not sure how I can tender my resignation. Can I find two members to vouch for me so I can join, just in case I need to resign? Walter L. Newton 303-838-2058 Website http://newton.acrossthebow.com/ Jewelry http://www.etsy.com/shop/hummingbirdcustom Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Never_Promised_You_a_Rose_Garden_(play) From: Steve Curry [mailto:cwhei...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:24 AM To: wahlpe...@aol.com; Walter L. Newton; mexicod...@aim.com; countde...@earthlink.net; daist...@hotmail.com; stlouismeteori...@gmail.com; raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list; JoshuaTreeMuseum; yeom...@gmail.com; mikest...@gmail.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; gmh...@centurylink.net; daniel_w...@comcast.net; sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com; axolot...@gmail.com; Randy Korotev; Randy L. Korotev; John Wasson; James Wittke; Roger Warin; Ken Newton; Stuart McDaniel; Dr. Michael Zolensky; Dr. Timothy McCoy; Maria Haas; Anne Black; Carl Agee; Chris A. Peterson; Dr. Alex Ruzicka; Tim Stout; Galactic Stone Ironworks; kevin.righter-1; Rainer Newberry; Ted Bunch; onther...@usairborne.com; Moto Ito; Tomasz Jakubowski; Ian A. Franchi; Zeus Crankypants; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan; Matthew Benjamin; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!! As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. Each every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, NWA 5000, in comparing our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the NWA 5000 is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, Northwest Africa is by geographical location description, in Public Domain! 5000 is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is considered Public Domain! The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. You can, also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias, or prejudice. Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair, and honestly! You can trust, too, that the stakes are extremely high! Just for sport, I'm going to name this game, HIGH NOON IN WESTERN COLORADO!..Even though, this dual will be held in the evening. I am giving a meteorite lecture seminar at the Delta County Library, on September 20, 2011, @ 6:00pm. If Mr. Hupe can trust his fellow IMCA member, Blaine Reed, Mr. Hupe is to send a specimen sample of the NWA 5000 to Mr. Reed. Mr. Blain Reed must show up at this lecture, armed with his new toy, as in his XRF hand-held analyzer. I, too, will show up with our XRF hand-held analyzer, which will be operated by an experienced geologist from Western Colorado. Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will conduct XRF analysis on both the NWA 5000, and our Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia. Both stones will be analyzed using the Precious Metal Mode, and the Prospector Mode, which will produce elemental percentages, and elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). The results from Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will be
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! And Possible New Fall
G'Day Adam and List I tried to contact Captain Chondrite but he's on vacation. I suppose he deserves it after all these posts. On another note, I've been following this possible fall in Texas. Been getting some good information. Has anybody else followed this possible fall? I'd like to hear more, but I know the avid hunters are already on the ground. Damn, I wish I could move at a moment's notice! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 P.S. Just for those who are curious, I was not on Curry's list. So does that mean I win and get all the meteorites? ;-) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hupe Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:29 PM To: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! I have dubs on the Reed's hand-held spectrum analyzer. I have a feeling that Super Duper Stevy Meteorite Man Not thinks the entire Western Hemisphere is dependent on this High Noon showdown thing complete with dueling hand triggered XRF ray guns. Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite! Adam - Original Message - From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! And Possible New Fall
Your on the list now. LOL!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: John.L.Cabassi Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:24 PM To: 'Adam Hupe' ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! And Possible New Fall G'Day Adam and List I tried to contact Captain Chondrite but he's on vacation. I suppose he deserves it after all these posts. On another note, I've been following this possible fall in Texas. Been getting some good information. Has anybody else followed this possible fall? I'd like to hear more, but I know the avid hunters are already on the ground. Damn, I wish I could move at a moment's notice! Cheers John Cabassi IMCA # 2125 P.S. Just for those who are curious, I was not on Curry's list. So does that mean I win and get all the meteorites? ;-) -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hupe Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:29 PM To: Adam Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! I have dubs on the Reed's hand-held spectrum analyzer. I have a feeling that Super Duper Stevy Meteorite Man Not thinks the entire Western Hemisphere is dependent on this High Noon showdown thing complete with dueling hand triggered XRF ray guns. Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite! Adam - Original Message - From: valpar...@aol.com valpar...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: High Noon! Anne, Can I have your meteorites? Paul Swartz 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] sky and Telescope article about Kenya meteorite
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/129312598.html Might be of more interest than the Colorado nutbag. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] California / Nevada Meteor Indicated 6SEP2011
Dear List, California / Nevada Meteor Indicated 6SEP2011 - seeking confirmation. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/09/mbiq-indicates-meteor-seen-in.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] sky and Telescope article about Kenya meteorite
Thanks for posting the link Mike. Nice article about real meteorites with photos to boot...best post of the day! Frank From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, September 6, 2011 4:10:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] sky and Telescope article about Kenya meteorite http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/129312598.html Might be of more interest than the Colorado nutbag. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] sky and Telescope article about Kenya meteorite
Mike, Thanks for posting the link; good positive reporting on a great witnessed fall. We should all be as fortunate as the woman in the coffee field to experience a stone landing 5 feet from us!! That would actually be plenty close enough for me want since I do not want to become a hammer object. Bob Falls Colorado Springs, CO -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 5:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] sky and Telescope article about Kenya meteorite http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/129312598.html Might be of more interest than the Colorado nutbag. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pierson Barretto gives best amateur site for worldwide evidence for Holocene impacts: Rich Murray 2011.09.06
Pierson Barretto gives best amateur site for worldwide evidence for Holocene impacts: Rich Murray 2011.09.06 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/09/pierson-barretto-gives-best-amateur.html Pierson Barretto, a retired architech and long-time amateur astronomer in Brazil, has completely surpassed Dennis Cox, Rich Murray, Michael Davias, and other amateurs for the most convincing, detailed, and dramatic introduction to worldwide evidence for Holocene impacts. https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/ IMPACT CRATER Scars and Palaeolagoons Under Continuous Construction This site is dedicated to a new approach on solar system astrophysics, archaeology, paleontology, archaeoastronomy, climate studies, water resources and environmental evolution from the End-Pleistocene and Holocene. The site shares some clues about craters, scars, palaeolagoons and their possible cosmic origin... www.cosmictusk.com blog for all point of view, now sharing major progress re mainstream research within mutual service, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com 505-819-7388 Skype audio, video rich.murray11 re my recent geoablation posts with inefficient URLs, here are corrected URLs, focused on evidence: Rich Murray 2011.08.27 10 m broken rock hill with black glazes, W of Rancho Alegre Road, S of Coyote Trail, W of Hwy 14, S of Santa Fe, New Mexico, tour of 50 photos 1 MB size each via DropBox: Rich Murray 2011.07.28 2011.08.03 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/08/10-m-broken-rock-hill-with-black-glazes.html http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/08/35479730-106085926-1865-km-el-top-10-m.html photos 3-5 of 50 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/92 vast geoablation in Argentina, craters from SW to NE -- Cox re Boslough bursts: Rich Murray 2011.07.31 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/07/vast-geoablation-in-argentina-craters.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/91 unique erratic 3 m rock, complex mixed composition, and many possibly related airburst features W of Vaughn, New Mexico: Dennis Cox: Rich Murray 2010.11.26 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/11/unique-erratic-3-m-rock-complex-mixed.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/78 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/11/blog-post_27.html 12 photos of 3 m erratic rock 09-NOV-10 11:10:48 WP128 3 m rock, 34.600080 -105.342566 1.900 km el, just S of SR 60 US 285, 8 km W of SR 54, 15 km W of Vaughn, NM, 57 km E of Laguna Del Perro impact field, unique erratic 3 m rock, complex mixed composition. Richat Structure, Mauritania -- Cox geoablation via Boslough comet fragment air burst directed 6,000 K high pressure directed jets: Rich Murray 2011.08.17 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/08/richat-structure-mauritania-cox.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/93 geoablation may have formed and/or glazed this rise from .405 to .480 km -- any samples of this putative blue-black glaze? 20.942700 -11.574150 Impact melt formation by low-altitude airburst processes, evidence from small terrestrial craters and numerical modeling, H E Newsom amp; MBE Boslough 2008 Mar 2p abstract: Rich Murray 2010.11.17 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/11/impact-melt-formation-by-low-altitude.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/73 3 times more downward energy from directed force of meteor airburst in 3D simulations by Mark B. E. Boslough, Sandia Lab 2007.12.17: Rich Murray 2010.08.30 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/08/3-times-more-downward-energy-from.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/63 expert geologists discuss Spade Ranch crater, 170 km SE of Lubbock, .4 km size, 2 fine Colorado City Record articles with photos: Charles E. Porter: Michael Makowsky: Rich Murray 2010.08.26 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/08/expert-geologists-discuss-spade-ranch.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/61 ground views of over 100 .1-.5 km shallow (ice comet fragment bursts) craters, Bajada del Diablo, Argentina (.78-.13 Ma BP) [42.87 S 67.47 W] Rogelio D Acevedo et al, Geomorphology 2009 Sept: Rich Murray 2010.03.28 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010/03/ground-views-of-over-100-1-5-km-shallow.html http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/47 http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2009/09/11/mega_meteorite_mystery/ 1-3 Bajada del Diablo, AR, Rogelio D Acevedo 2009 608X456 .139 MB 100_2064-thumb-608x456.jpg 1 of 3 photos __ Rich Murray, MA Boston University Graduate School 1967 psychology, BS MIT 1964, history and physics, 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505 rmfor...@gmail.com 505-819-7388 Skype audio, video rich.murray11 http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroDeep/messages http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages group with 118 members, 1,625 posts in a public archive http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/messages
