Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen specimens from Eduardo jawerbaum collection
Hi Al They were stolen not AT Tucson but from my house in Argentina while I was a tucson. I will try to put the photos on a web site too, facebook was the fastest instant way to do it. Thanks Eduardo 2017-02-21 21:11 GMT-03:00 AL Mitorling via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: > Hi Eduardo, > > Wondering if it might be the same thief that took Blaine's item. > > One other comment, not everybody is on facebook. Can you put pictures > somewhere else for those of us not on facebook to look at the stolen > specimens? Thanks! > > --AL Mitterling > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen specimens from Eduardo jawerbaum collection
Hi No, you can see a photo of my specimen here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212891076821851=a.10212891073661772.1073741938.1537830863=3 thanks for answer me! Eduardo 2017-02-21 23:49 GMT-03:00 Galactic Stone & Ironworks < meteoritem...@gmail.com>: > Is this the Kris blade? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-ANTIQUE-ORIGINAL-OLD-JAVA- > INDONESIAN-KERIS-KRIS-DAGGER-METEORITE-BLADE-/162404189918? > hash=item25d00b46de:g:shkAAOSwTuJYrLyC > > > > On 2/20/17, eduardo jawerbaum via Meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > > Hi > > While I was in Tucson, several specimens from my collection were stolen. > > Listed here are the meteorite related ones, but also minerals and > > archaeological items were taken. > > You can see some photos in facebook: > > www.facebook.com/eduardo.jawerbaum/media_set?set=a. > 10212891073661772.1073741938.1537830863 > > > > > > Meteorites Class Weight (g) sizes (mm) Crust% Observations > > > > BINGOL Howardite Individual 8,05 26x18x12 90 ORIENTED shiny glassy > surface > > > > MARJALAHTI PAL PMG sliceP 22.2 50x40x3 > > > > ST. MICHEL L6 Fragment 29.5 40x40x3-13 5- > > > > SYLACAUGA H4 Fragment 0,52 9x8x4 0 > > > > JILIN H5 End Piece 35,76 48x30x15 50 > > > > NEW ORLEANS H5 Fragment 2,287 15x13x9 0 > > > > TAZA Iron Ungr Plessitic Octahedrite End Piece 84.4 80x33x13 w/rad.Kamac. > > needles and large inclusion > > > > NWA 5358 Brachinite slice 5,92 38x27x1,5 25 > > > > NWA 6484 Lodranite slice 4,63 37x28x1,5 90 > > > > NWA 7397 SHE Enriched Permafic Poikilitic Individual 4,53 17x17x8 85 > > > > Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 19,1 30x22x15 graphite nodule > > w/metal > > > > Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 3g 17x14x7? graphite nodule > w/metal > > > > > > Keris. ceremonial knife made of meteorite from Bali. Original 15th > > century. 42x8cm > > > > > > tectites-impactites > > > > Australit v.Lent Individual 0.65 From Hugh Howard collection > > > > Australite v.boat Individual 2.586 31x11x5 oval oriented. Excellent > > > > Australite vFlangedButton Individual 2.536 20x20x7 near perfect 1mm > scratch > > > > Australite vFlangedButton Individual 3.194 21x19x9 incompl. Aprox 80% > > > > Bediasite Individual 5.61 20x14x13 > > > > Moldavite Individual 11.2 50x23x9 100 > > > > Moldavite Individual 13.1 33x27x12 100 > > > > Moldavite Individual 6.5 33x32x8 100 > > > > Moldavite Individual 6.7 80x21x6 100 > > > > Moldavite Individual 1.626 18x16x9 with hole > > > > Moldavite Individual 0,668 18x10x3 with hole > > > > Moldavite Individual 10,77 41x23x7 0 > > > > Moldavite Individual 5,57 31x20x9 with flow lines > > > > Rizalite-Phillipinite Tektite 272 55x55x50 0 excellent deep ribs all > around > > > > Amerikanite/Colombianite pseudotektite Individual 14.1 27x23x18 > > > > Belemnite del Ries Crater impactita Individual 2.77 32x8x6 sliced/melted > > form meteorite impact > > > > Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 9 32x27x10 > > > > Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 2,3 22x12x10 > > > > Tektite v. Batong Anag impactite Individual 49,12 49x33x26 0 "stone from > > the ants > > > > Wabar Pearl of Al'Ad Impactita Individual 0.64 12x9x5 > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 18.3 3x2x2 > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 11.8 about 70mm drop shape > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 67.4 about 70mm plane disc > > > > Indochinite Tektite 87.7 11x3 bone sized > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 23.8 35x25x25 twisted drop shape > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 28 60x30x14 flat striated drop shape > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 30 40x38x25 with gastropod > > impression? > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 12 43x25x9 Muong nong > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 36 39x36x20 round with rare center > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 57 85x40x23 round with rare center > > > > Indochinite Tektite Individual 5,71 45x15x9 remaglipted drop > > > > Indochinite v.Drop Tektite Individual 13.2 58x13x14 > > > > Indochinite v.MUONG NONG Tektite Individual 48.6 65x45x20 layered tektite > > > > Phillipinite Individual 46.7 35x33x28 > > > > Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 17.3 60x30x10 Crystobalite,Schlieren > > > > Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 55 75x42x25 Fl
[meteorite-list] Stolen specimens from Eduardo jawerbaum collection
Hi While I was in Tucson, several specimens from my collection were stolen. Listed here are the meteorite related ones, but also minerals and archaeological items were taken. You can see some photos in facebook: www.facebook.com/eduardo.jawerbaum/media_set?set=a.10212891073661772.1073741938.1537830863 Meteorites Class Weight (g) sizes (mm) Crust% Observations BINGOL Howardite Individual 8,05 26x18x12 90 ORIENTED shiny glassy surface MARJALAHTI PAL PMG sliceP 22.2 50x40x3 ST. MICHEL L6 Fragment 29.5 40x40x3-13 5- SYLACAUGA H4 Fragment 0,52 9x8x4 0 JILIN H5 End Piece 35,76 48x30x15 50 NEW ORLEANS H5 Fragment 2,287 15x13x9 0 TAZA Iron Ungr Plessitic Octahedrite End Piece 84.4 80x33x13 w/rad.Kamac. needles and large inclusion NWA 5358 Brachinite slice 5,92 38x27x1,5 25 NWA 6484 Lodranite slice 4,63 37x28x1,5 90 NWA 7397 SHE Enriched Permafic Poikilitic Individual 4,53 17x17x8 85 Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 19,1 30x22x15 graphite nodule w/metal Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 3g 17x14x7? graphite nodule w/metal Keris. ceremonial knife made of meteorite from Bali. Original 15th century. 42x8cm tectites-impactites Australit v.Lent Individual 0.65 From Hugh Howard collection Australite v.boat Individual 2.586 31x11x5 oval oriented. Excellent Australite vFlangedButton Individual 2.536 20x20x7 near perfect 1mm scratch Australite vFlangedButton Individual 3.194 21x19x9 incompl. Aprox 80% Bediasite Individual 5.61 20x14x13 Moldavite Individual 11.2 50x23x9 100 Moldavite Individual 13.1 33x27x12 100 Moldavite Individual 6.5 33x32x8 100 Moldavite Individual 6.7 80x21x6 100 Moldavite Individual 1.626 18x16x9 with hole Moldavite Individual 0,668 18x10x3 with hole Moldavite Individual 10,77 41x23x7 0 Moldavite Individual 5,57 31x20x9 with flow lines Rizalite-Phillipinite Tektite 272 55x55x50 0 excellent deep ribs all around Amerikanite/Colombianite pseudotektite Individual 14.1 27x23x18 Belemnite del Ries Crater impactita Individual 2.77 32x8x6 sliced/melted form meteorite impact Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 9 32x27x10 Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 2,3 22x12x10 Tektite v. Batong Anag impactite Individual 49,12 49x33x26 0 "stone from the ants Wabar Pearl of Al'Ad Impactita Individual 0.64 12x9x5 Indochinite Tektite Individual 18.3 3x2x2 Indochinite Tektite Individual 11.8 about 70mm drop shape Indochinite Tektite Individual 67.4 about 70mm plane disc Indochinite Tektite 87.7 11x3 bone sized Indochinite Tektite Individual 23.8 35x25x25 twisted drop shape Indochinite Tektite Individual 28 60x30x14 flat striated drop shape Indochinite Tektite Individual 30 40x38x25 with gastropod impression? Indochinite Tektite Individual 12 43x25x9 Muong nong Indochinite Tektite Individual 36 39x36x20 round with rare center Indochinite Tektite Individual 57 85x40x23 round with rare center Indochinite Tektite Individual 5,71 45x15x9 remaglipted drop Indochinite v.Drop Tektite Individual 13.2 58x13x14 Indochinite v.MUONG NONG Tektite Individual 48.6 65x45x20 layered tektite Phillipinite Individual 46.7 35x33x28 Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 17.3 60x30x10 Crystobalite,Schlieren Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 55 75x42x25 Flight Oriented! Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 17 35x20x18 PARK FOREST glass from car impactite" Fragment 0 50x25x4 glass from car broken by Park Forest met. Letter E the following 5 were in one box, with several large photos and a certificate of Jon Larsen (also stolen) MICROMETEORITO 213 Barred Olivine Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO MICROMETEORITO 225 Barred Olivine Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO MICROMETEORITO 227 Turteback Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 fine grained cryptocrystalline MICROMETEORITO 228 Barred Olivine w/Fe/Ni nuget Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO with Fe/ni nugget MICROMETEORITO 241 Barred Olivine w/broken glass bubble and Pt grp Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO w/pt grp nugget & glass bub pseudometeorite Shirokovsky pseudometeorito pseudopallasite slice P 24.1 64x51x2 0 these last three, with almost no commercial value were a nice part of my collection as were "found" in tucson show auction's cakes, still with the aluminium foil, never opened. Gold Basin V.Cake L4-6 Individual 3,684 w/foil 27x20x11 Meteorite auction cake Tucson 2012 FRANCONIA V. Cake H5 Individual 4,04 w/foil 25x16x14 Meteorite auction cake Tucson 2013 NWA 869 V. Cake H5 Individual 1,914 w/foil 31X19X7 Meteorite auction cake Tucson 2014 Thanks for read this. Please let me know if someone offer them or you see any of these specimen for sale. thanks Eduardo Jawerbaum __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Aiquile specimens for sale
Hi I have 6 nice Aiquile specimens for sale. Most of them in the 50g - 160g range, with 40 to 95% FC, but one is a large specimen of over 1.5 kg broken in half. If you are interested contact me for more information and prices. thanks Eduardo IMCA #0645 __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SCAM on e-bay with second offers
Please beware that there is a scammer sending second offers on items I just already sold. One of my customers received one and contacted me to make an offer and that's how we found out that is a scam. The e-mail of the scammer is: jrenv.enginee...@gmail.com I just made a google search on that e-mail and there seem to be other scams from him. Please if any of you received a 2nd offer on any of the smfmeteorites auctions, or get one in the next days, it is not from me. I already sold all the items I had on e-bay. Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Springwater, Millbillillie and over 70 other auctions on e-bay
Hi My auctions are ending in a few hours. Many pieces are still at $0.99, and several high end specimens are currently very very low so go and have fun bidding http://www.ebay.com/sch/smfmeteorites/m.html thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Ad: Springwater, Millbillillie and over 70 other auctions on e-bay
Hi After over a year I just put a new auction on e-bay, this will probably be the only one this year, but you will definitely not want to miss it. Rare falls, museum specimens, wholesaler lots, oriented meteorites, uncommon inclusions, and I'm sure you will find at least one specimen that will fit your collection. ALL STARTING AT $0.99 and WITH NO RESERVE you will find several thousand of $ in amazing specimens including Perfect whole almost 100% crusted 182.5 grams MILLBILLILLIE individual http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216940421 Over 100g SPRINGWATER slice. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216872912 4 specimens of the famous SAHARA'S EH3, from a 9.7g slice to an amazing 462g end piece http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216883186 El Sampal 215g slice with a very big troilite inclusion http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216916271 other uncommon meteorites included are: Abee, Chajari, Talampaya, Arroyo Agiar, Nahuel Niyeu, San Carlos, Mercedes and an excellent selection of Zagami, Gao, Henbury, sikhote-alin, Norton County, Gold Basin, Juancheng and many more you can see them all at: www.ebay.com/sch/smfmeteorites/m.html?item=271216940421 and if you don't to buy them just enjoy the photos! As usual if you have any questions just let me know. thanks Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Springwater, Millbillillie and over 70 other auctions on e-bay
Hi After over a year I just put a new auction on e-bay, this will probably be the only one this year, but you will definitely not want to miss it. Rare falls, museum specimens, wholesaler lots, oriented meteorites, uncommon inclusions, and I'm sure you will find at least one specimen that will fit your collection. ALL STARTING AT $0.99 and WITH NO RESERVE you will find several thousand of $ in amazing specimens including Perfect whole almost 100% crusted 182.5 grams MILLBILLILLIE individual http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216940421 Over 100g SPRINGWATER slice. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216872912 4 specimens of the famous SAHARA'S EH3, from a 9.7g slice to an amazing 462g end piece http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216883186 El Sampal 215g slice with a very big troilite inclusion http://www.ebay.com/itm/271216916271 other uncommon meteorites included are: Abee, Chajari, Talampaya, Arroyo Agiar, Nahuel Niyeu, San Carlos, Mercedes and an excellent selection of Zagami, Gao, Henbury, sikhote-alin, Norton County, Gold Basin, Juancheng and many more you can see them all at: www.ebay.com/sch/smfmeteorites/m.html?item=271216940421 and if you don't to buy them just enjoy the photos! As usual if you have any questions just let me know. thanks Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite shipment stopped in Argentine Customs. Probably Campos
A shipment of 328 meteorites with a weight almost 2.4tons was stopped at Argentine Customs. It was declared as ornamental material, but is is quite obvious that they are Campo del Cielo specimens. Here is one of the multiple newspapers that covered that notice: http://www.lavoz.com.ar/noticias/politica/afip-impidio-exportacion-ilegal-328-piezas-meteoritos Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auction ending in one day. Really low prices.
Hi If you want a good deal just go to my auctions. I can't understand prices like Sikhote Alin under $0.05/g, or Zagami under $4.00/g (not 400/g just 4 per g)! or a Johnstown MM still at $0.99 so go and have fun bidding: http://www.ebay.com/sch/smfmeteorites/m.html Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auction on-line. I'm back!
Hi After a while I had time to set up a new e-bay auction. Over 40 items, several started at 0.99 to choose for. Nice Sikhote-Alin specimens, other falls like Gao-Guenie, Talampaya, Arroyo Aguiar, Zagami, and many more either starting less than $1 or with low reserve. Just visit me at: http://www.ebay.com/sch/smfmeteorites/m.html I'll be waiting you! Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Argentina: impact or natural gas explosion?
It seems to be a gas explosion. the few witnessed are not consistent, speaking of blue fire. Some smell like powder before seing the blue fire. In that area a real fireball big enought to make that crash should have be seen by thousands, even at that hour (2AM) Eduardo 2011/9/26 Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com: Devastation looks more consistent with a natural gas explosion than a meteorite impact... -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rolene Barton Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:42 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] OT Argentina destruction to houses,killing one injuring 6 Wide angle shots at end show a lot of destruction. Reported to be flaming object from the sky. All spoken in spanish.Not sure what is described. http://www.ufodigest.com/article/possible-meteorite-strike-kills-one-des troys-homes-argentina __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay special Auction: Mighei, Esquel, EH3, Troilite in El Sampal
Hi Here is a special auction with some over 50 really nice specimens, I guess you would like to get any of them as christmas presents. Just go to http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html and take a look at: MIGHEI 3.48g yes, not a speck, this is a really nice fragment!, and belive it or not I started it at $0.99 with NO RESERVE ESQUEL Two very nice slices to fit your budget: and 37.6g and 425g. The last one with a very nice large olivine crystals cluster of over on third of the specimen. must see it! EL SAMPAL Over one lb (almost 1/4 KG) very nice slice with a very big (over 3 cm) troilite inclusion. Another must see it specimen. MONZE 14.5 slice with nice vein JOHNSTOWN 92mg of fragments, used to be my personal collection specimen until I upgrade it some time ago. Of course there are also specimens for everyone, Allende, Gao-Guenie, Sikhote-Alin, numbered Saharas (one looks really fresh!), Mercedes, and many many more Just in case you missed the link above, all my auctions can be seen at: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html best wishes Eduardo IMCA 0645 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD e-bay auctions ending in 2 days
Hi Yes!, my $0.99 auctions are back. After a few monthes finally I have 60 auctions ending in 2 days. My usual assortment of meteorites, most with $0.99 base and a few with base, some with best offer. You're welcomed to see them at: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html? Some highlights At $0.99: Krasnojarsk olivine fragments Zagami Allende Juancheng Sikhote Alin and many more Also listed is a very nice Esquel slice, a beautiful 1.6kg oriented sikhote, and many more. Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
My turn to name some of my hobbies: - Collector of Minerals: Systematic, pseudomorphs, fluorescents, micromounts, aesthetic MIN/SCAB sized specimens, localites from Argentina. - Collector of Fossils, especially cephalopods (amonites) and cretaceous and older gastropods - Collector of Meteorites, especially from Argentina and worldwide historical, although I have a systematic collection too. - Rollercoaster rider (118 different until now) - Travel, especially to nature landscapes, geology, archaeology and paleontology places - Reading, especially Science fiction, historical novels. - TV adict especially meteorite men ;-) and other series like The Big Bang Theory, House, Dexter, True Blood to name few) - Fan of Les Luthiers (group of musical humor from Argentina) - Exotic foods tester Former collector of: Archaeology, seashells, stamps (especially of geology, minerals, fossils and meteorites), coins. These mostly while kid but still love looking at them. Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad:Auctions ending soon. Indiano
Hi A new lot of meteorites is ending tomorrow on e-bay. Most started at $0.99, others with Buy It Now prices and Best Offer options, so whatever is prefered style there is something waiting in over 50 auctions including: Chassigny (the last one!) a capsule with 12mg of small pcs/dust. This is your last chance to get it. Huaytiquina 904g end piece of a nice hexahedrite. Even if you don't want to buy it worth a look! Nahuel Niyeu. The only End piece that will be for sale as only one stone was found and I will keep in my collection the main mass including the back of the stone. If you like end pieces, this is the only chance to add it to your collection. Huckita. A great 232g end piece of this strange pallasite And a great selection of irons, chondrites, martians and others. quick look here: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html?_nkw thanks Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Ad:Auctions ending soon. Indianopolis-Chassigny
Hi A new lot of meteorites is ending tomorrow on e-bay. Most started at $0.99, others with Buy It Now prices and Best Offer options, so whatever is prefered style there is something waiting in over 50 auctions including: Chassigny (the last one!) a capsule with 12mg of small pcs/dust. This is your last chance to get it. Indianopolis Rare Iron from Brazil. Never seen on sale before. Also only specimen available. Huaytiquina 904g end piece of a nice hexahedrite. Even if you don't want to buy it worth a look! Nahuel Niyeu. The only End piece that will be for sale as only one stone was found and I will keep in my collection the main mass including the back of the stone. If you like end pieces, this is the only chance to add it to your collection. Huckita. A great 232g end piece of this strange pallasite And a great selection of irons, chondrites, martians and others. quick look here: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html?_nkw thanks Eduardo P.S. sorry if you get this mail twice. Sent it one over ago and still did not see it go through. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina
Hi Stuart and list Written below the photo is that every day there are intrusion of meteorites like the one of the photo. It does not say that the photo is from the new fireball. Also mention the source as elpais.es , which is a newspaper form spain. Now if the neswpaper from Spain had permission to publish that photo, and if the Tucuman (Argentina) newspaper have permission to use that content, who knows... The fireball was real as Dirk said. Eduardo -Original Message- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina Stuart and List, It is a shame people have to start hoaxes like this. The posting of the report about the Argentina fireball was real. SO NOT A HOAX! Yes, they used a photo by Howard Edin in the newspaper in Argentina (most likely without his permission). Dirk Ross..Tokyo --- On Sat, 5/8/10, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 7:35 AM Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the net..I have had this picture on my desktop for months. It was taken in Oklahoma at the Okie-Tex Star Party 9/30/2008 by Howard Edin. Who ever is claiming this picture has obviously cropped off the info from the bottom. See the original here...http://www.howardedin.com/ It is a shame people have to start hoaxes like this. On 5/6/2010 12:04 PM, drtanuki wrote: Dear List, Hot off of the wire: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/05/argentina-large-fireb all-6may2010-just.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina
Hi Actually the law refers to NEW finds and falls, so any meteorite find or found before December 2007 can be exported (with a few exceptions like Campo del Cielo as there is a provincial law that protect Chaco meteorites). About the new one, I was in contact with people from San Juan. It was seen aproaching earth with a Southeast direction near the Sierra de Pie de Palo, but no sound was hear nearby. In case of a confirmed fall in this case, it will be a new fall and so no export will be alowed right now (although I'm still working to try to change this). best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: impact...@aol.com To: countde...@earthlink.net, drtan...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, meteor...@meteorobs.org Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:39:25 EDT Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina Quick reminder: As of January 1, 2008, No meteorite, new fall, old fall, newly found,...etc, may be exported from Argentina. Just ask Eduardo for details. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 5/6/2010 1:28:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, countde...@earthlink.net writes: From what I can translate the Secretary of the Astronomy Society of Argentina said that the meteor was ..the size of a fist traveling from West to East at an altitude of 100 kilometers... It was visible over several hundred square miles. This area has a lot of nice flat accessible farm land and beaucoup people, so if it were larger and produced any meteorites we will hear about it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: May 6, 2010 12:04 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball observed on 6MAY2010 in Argentina Dear List, Hot off of the wire: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/05/argentina-large-fire ball- 6may2010-just.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi I have over 50 auctions ending today. Most of them started at $0.99 quick view at: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html I'm introducing a new Argentine meteorite, Nahuel Niyeu, which I guess will be one of the last available meteorites from my country that will be able to be exported. Although this was published a few monthes ago, as the classification process started before the law I can assure that it's legal to trade. The main mass will remain in my collection and only a few slices will be available for sale. You will find also nice sikhote-alin specimens, Zagami, Allende, Sahara main mases, cherry picked Chergach babies, and several more see you there Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Catamarca Meteorite?
Hi Never read google translations. Standard Olmedo is not a man. Is a literal translation of Norma Olmedo, a woman. She was not struck by a meteorite, the news say that she saw the fireball and then went with his son and found a meteorite. Here are some news with photos and even a video of her with the stone she found. http://www.elvecinalistaweb.com.ar/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=1803Itemid=1 http://www.catamarcactual.com.ar/notas_actual.php?id_nota=52071 http://www.qpasa.com.ar/las-noticias/argentina/2349-meteorito-cae-en- fiambala-y-habria-sido-encontrado-intacto.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3wx7vVv7-c In some of the photos and in the video it seems to be a fusion crusted rock, but it seems too light for a fresh fall to me. I'll try to get more information Eduardo -Original Message- From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:57:13 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Catamarca Meteorite? Anyone know anything about this? Or is this another flaming crater? Google translation of the page. They find a meteorite in Catamarca http://www.eldiario24.com/nota.php?id=158863 [March 10, 2010 09:19] A woman was struck by a stone that had sparkles. It happened in Fiambalá and will be analyzed by specialists. Local residents Fiambalá Catamarca claim to have seen fall during Monday night a meteorite and his remains, which have been found by a woman, will now be analyzed by specialists at the National University of Catamarca. The incident occurred in the District of Fiambalá Juan Manuel Salas, department Tinogasta, located about 350 kilometers west of the provincial capital, where his neighbors say that about 22 of that day fell from the sky a ball fire followed by a luminous trail. The neighbors felt that this is a meteorite and that its size would not be larger than a soccer ball. Standard Olmedo, who lives in that area, said Ancasti told FM that he filmed with his cell phone and managed to drop to locate the stone. Olmedo, who at the time of the phenomenon was with his son, said past the 22 on Monday was struck a bright light that shone from behind. Turning I saw falling from the sky a red ball, trailing light strongly, he said. According to the woman, she arrived with her son to the place of the fall, where they discovered a stone that he still flashes. Meanwhile, this morning it was reported from the National University of Catamarca specialists from this house of studies and the Department of Anthropology will travel to Fiambalá afternoon to prepare a report on the alleged meteorite. Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pre-Tucson sale. 1 day left. Very nice specimens
Hi There is one day left for my pre-Tucson sale. All the specimens have fixed prices and best offer options. If you like any of the specimens and want to make a reasonable offer this is the moment to do it. Take a look at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 still available: Covert 14.5KG MAIN MASS Allende 250g half thin slice Barratta 592 g full slice Ghubara 2.8kg end piece Gibeon. Great specimens up to 9kg. Gao-Guenie 908g 90%fc nice individual Chinga 1255g complete specimen Sahara 98488 374g Mesosiderite from the Labenne early expeditions and many more And of course, if you don't want to buy them just look at the photos. Worth the time! Hope to see you at Tucson show: Executive Inn Hotel, room 136 (at 333w drachman st) Eduardo -Original Message- From: Eduardo i...@mineralesyfosiles.com.ar To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:34:24 -0300 Subject: Pre-Tucson. Huge sale. Hi This year I decided to offer on-line some of the specimens I have in my Tucson room. There are over 30 really amazing specimens including: Covert 14.5KG MAIN MASS Esquel 529g perfect slice (and a couple of smaller specimens) Allende 250g half thin slice Barratta 592 g full slice Ghubara 2.8kg end piece Gibeon. Great specimens up to 9kg. All specimens with fixed Price and best offer option can be seen at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 I will ship them on Feb 1 from Tucson Of course, free shipping if you pick em up from our room at Tucson show from Feb 1 to feb 8: Executive Inn, room 136 (333 w drachman st) hope to see you soon Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pre-Tucson. Huge sale.
Hi This year I decided to offer on-line some of the specimens I have in my Tucson room. There are over 30 really amazing specimens including: Covert 14.5KG MAIN MASS Esquel 529g perfect slice (and a couple of smaller specimens) Allende 250g half thin slice Barratta 592 g full slice Ghubara 2.8kg end piece Gibeon. Great specimens up to 9kg. All specimens with fixed Price and best offer option can be seen at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 I will ship them on Feb 1 from Tucson Of course, free shipping if you pick em up from our room at Tucson show from Feb 1 to feb 8: Executive Inn, room 136 (333 w drachman st) hope to see you soon Eduardo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - ebay auctions ending in 2 days
Hi A new lot of almost 100 auctions is running right now. To see them all just go to http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html Nice photos so you are welcomed to see them even if you don't want to buy As usual a wide variety of meteorites. Some highlights are: COVERT. last available slice (unless you want to buy the main mass) Amerikanite - Colombianite. A nice transparent specimen. These use to be considered tektites but recently tested to be terrestrial so now they are pseudotektites Benguerir. 17.8g fragment with a large crusted area. This came from my collection specimen, It has a natural? fissure and I split it with my hands. Starting at $0.99 I can't believe it still have no bids! Kem Kem 33, another of the very limited numbered Kem Kem. this one splitted by M. Casper over 10 yeras ago, with a nice fusion crust. Both halves included in the auction. Allende, a nice 46g end piece, and also smaller specimens, your choice. Many groups, localities, falls, small, large. You will find something here. Here is the link again: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html see you there Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay ending tomorrow. Very low prices. AD
Hi I think I never seen so low prices the day before one of my auction ends. quick link here: http://shop.ebay.com/smfmeteorites/m.html?_nkw Some extremely rare meteorites this time, only one available so this is your only chance (at least from me): Hinojal, Chajari, Palca de Aparzo, Nogoya, Cuenca del Tiburon, Cat Mountain. Last month there was a discussion about Kem Kem. One of the specimens in the auction is Kem Kem 15. Michael Casper realized that this one was different than other Kem Kem and put a different name on it. Less than 30 Kem Kem meteorites were labelled with a number and most of them are gone, so if you want have a specimen go ahead and bid, is a 47g specimen cut by half so ready to be studied and is still at $0.99!. One more hint to make a good buy here. One of the auctions that did not start at $0.99 was mistakenly priced, next time will be 50% more expensive. I will not say which one. Just find the bargain and get it. If you just want to see the photos, go ahead, and if you want to bid on any of them great!. Eduardo IMCA 0645 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades
Hi Martin and Andre That's not right. The Argentine law specifically mention NEW finds and falls. Until now the only two meteorites involved are Berduc and Santa Lucia (both falls from 2008) A museum can legally export older finds and falls (December 2007) Eduardo -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:01:15 +0200 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hi André, I guess, you have to delete Argentina from your list. I'm not fully sure about, but due to the new legislation, where Argentinean meteorites are handled like artefacts, they aren't allowed to be exported anymore. It is hard for the Argentinean curators and scientists, but I fear, they will have to do without meteorites as consequence of the new law. Or better to say, from now on, they rather have to purchase new material, because the most cost-effective way, the swapping and trading is now blocked. Even if there shall be a possibility to acquire special permits (?), I doubt, that anyone of the main suppliers of important meteorites, not to mention the private collectors, would be willing to occupy himself with all that paperwork. I think this was also the main reason, why so few only gave meteorites on loan to Andrzej's exhibition - cause with the new Polish export prohibition, they weren't sure, whether they would get their pieces back or feared the red tape. Don't know about the actual situation in Poland - we'd love to trade meteorites with Polish museums, like I did sometimes in past and where all were happy - and now we have more amazing material than ever, but I don't know, whether that is still possible at all. Another terrifying aspect, aside the main problem of the breaking down of the number of newly recovered meteorites - how harmful improper laws created without expert knowledge are for meteorite science and the institutional and national collections. Very worrying, the developments of the recent years.. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von André Moutinho Gesendet: Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 05:22 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hello, there anyone here that belongs to a museum in Southern America (Argentina, Peru, Brazil, etc) that may be interest in trades? Regards, André IMCA #2731 http://moutinho.astrodatabase.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades
Hi Martin Campo del Cielo is a special case. There is a provincial law from 1970 that protect all the meteorites from Chaco province. Although some part of the Campo del Cielo strewnfield (about 5%) is in Santiago del Estero province, when you get to customs you have to prove that they were collected in Santiago province before December 2008, or in Chaco province before 1970 something really hard to do. Only the very old Campo specimens already exported before 1970 are OK. About pre-dated new finds, well there is always the chance that you can be caught in the lie. Not exactly a pre-dated, but think in Berduc. Some started to sell them as Arroyo Malo and were disacredited as soon as it was published. I guess a lot of people loose money there as now they can't legally resell them and have in hands illegally exported Berduc meteorites. There are a few Argentine meteorites actually under analysis, really collected before the law (actually their analysis started before Dec. 2008) but any new old find is questionable. On the other hand, a newly found La Criolla specimen can be easily be passed as an old one from that fall. Unless somebody catch the hunter at the moment of find it is hard to prove it was not found 5 or 10 years ago. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:36:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hi Eduardo, does that mean, that e.g. Campos found before the end of 2007 can still be exported from Argentina without permit? If yes, why was Eric Twelker then attacked? And what shall this law prevent, if all further finds, without new observed falls, could be pre-dated by finders... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Eduardo Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2009 16:48 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hi Martin and Andre That's not right. The Argentine law specifically mention NEW finds and falls. Until now the only two meteorites involved are Berduc and Santa Lucia (both falls from 2008) A museum can legally export older finds and falls (December 2007) Eduardo -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:01:15 +0200 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hi André, I guess, you have to delete Argentina from your list. I'm not fully sure about, but due to the new legislation, where Argentinean meteorites are handled like artefacts, they aren't allowed to be exported anymore. It is hard for the Argentinean curators and scientists, but I fear, they will have to do without meteorites as consequence of the new law. Or better to say, from now on, they rather have to purchase new material, because the most cost-effective way, the swapping and trading is now blocked. Even if there shall be a possibility to acquire special permits (?), I doubt, that anyone of the main suppliers of important meteorites, not to mention the private collectors, would be willing to occupy himself with all that paperwork. I think this was also the main reason, why so few only gave meteorites on loan to Andrzej's exhibition - cause with the new Polish export prohibition, they weren't sure, whether they would get their pieces back or feared the red tape. Don't know about the actual situation in Poland - we'd love to trade meteorites with Polish museums, like I did sometimes in past and where all were happy - and now we have more amazing material than ever, but I don't know, whether that is still possible at all. Another terrifying aspect, aside the main problem of the breaking down of the number of newly recovered meteorites - how harmful improper laws created without expert knowledge are for meteorite science and the institutional and national collections. Very worrying, the developments of the recent years.. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von André Moutinho Gesendet: Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 05:22 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Southern America museuns meteorite trades Hello, there anyone here that belongs to a museum in Southern America (Argentina, Peru, Brazil, etc) that may be interest in trades? Regards, André IMCA #2731 http://moutinho.astrodatabase.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite classification quiz!
Great game! My first try, with 10 photos Easy 88 Medium 64 Hard 52 (but I think it should be 58 as I mistake a complete EL specimen with a L) Eduardo -Original Message- From: Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:51:34 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite classification quiz! For your amusement: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/NameThatMeteorite.php Jeff Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New fall in Argentina.
Yesterday, 19:22hs local time a fireball with explosion and Earth shake was seen and felt betweeen Mendoza and La Pampa provinces in Argentina. Please remember the Argentine law about meteorite falls. NO EXPORT IS ALLOWED. If anywone want to came and search for it is OK but you can't take the meteorites out of Argentina. Some news (in spanish sorry): http://www.mdzol.com/mdz/nota/162536-Un-meteorito-cay%C3%B3-en-General- Alvear/ http://radio1alvear.com/ http://www.diariotextual.com/index.php? option=com_contentview=articleid=2779 http://www.mediamza.com/nota/index/id/8850 http://www.laarena.com.ar/la_ciudad-%C2%BFmeteorito_o_basura_espacial_- 39284-115.html Eduardo P.S. 25 years without falls in Argentina and just after the new law 3 falls in less than two years. That's not fair :-( __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auctions ending tomorrow
-Original Message- From: Eduardo i...@mineralesyfosiles.com.ar To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:10:56 -0300 Subject: Ad: Ebay auctions ending tomorrow Hi I have over 65 auctions ending tomorrow. Most of them started at $0.99 adn many still at that price. Take a look at http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Just to mention a few: La Criolla, Covert, Dhofar 007, Tatahouine, Viedma, San Juan, Wiluna, Capot Rey, Tafassasset, Camel Donga, Brenham, Huckitta, Glorieta Mountain, Sikhote Alin, and many more hope to see you there Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question
Answering both Steves at once. The Nuevo Mercurio that meteorite men Steve mention is now in my collection. But it's not 25g, it's a little under 8g. It has a hole about 2x1mm. I also remember a tricky holed meteorite: some D'Orbigny slices/framgments had holes made when gas bubbles were exposed on thin slices or fragments. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:20:17 EDT Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question Dr. King had a Nuevo Mercurio in his collection, about 25 grams in size, that had a hole in it. It was fully crusted, and the hole was big enough to run a fishing line through. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men In a message dated 8/22/2009 10:04:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, anitawestl...@att.net writes: Dear List: I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered Steve's question, but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks. I hope this helps, Anita __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question
Hi again In Argentina there is also a town called Sierra de la Ventana (Hill of the Window). It's name is for a natural terrestrial hole in a nearby Hill. Here are some pages with photos of it: http://www.dondevivimos.com.ar/paginasdv/sierra_ventana.html http://www.panoramio.com/photo/607753 http://www.flickr.com/photos/roswel2/366540074/ http://www.midnightsoret.com.ar/viajes/ventana042003/index.html Eduardo -Original Message- From: John Gwilliam j...@cox.net To: Anita Westlake anitawestl...@att.net, meteorite- l...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:57:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question It took Anita to get me on track. Here's is Arizona's pride and joy - a natural hole in a terrestrials rock! And...just three miles north of Arizona State University, home or a very famous meteorite collection located in the Bateman Natural Science Building. I believe it is holy as there are a number of wedding performed there every year. http://www.gemland.com/holeinrock.htm Thanks to Chicago Ssteve for starting this very informative and provocative thread! Best, John Gwilliam At 08:26 PM 8/22/2009, Anita Westlake wrote: Whoops. Picture didn't come through. Try this link: http://www.theholeintherock.com/ Anita - Original Message From: Anita Westlake anitawestl...@att.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:04:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] To Answer Steve's Question Dear List: I think it would be helpful if someone not only answered Steve's question, but provided proof of the holiness of non-iron rocks. I hope this helps, Anita __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
Hi When buying Casper's inventory there were quite a few specimens marked Kem Kem, but also some single pieces marked Kem Kem # (where # were different numbers up to about 30), most of them cut by half. So my conclusion is that most of the specimens are the original Kem Kem, but when something looked different, it was named differently by Casper. As with all meteorite finds, looking the same does not mean to be the same, but unless you want to test every rock you have to live with this. They were found around the same time of the Saharas 99xxx. I can't be sure that all of them came actually from Kem Kem area, or were transported pre-NWA. Hope this clears up a little this matter. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: Rob Wesel r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:49:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites Hi Rob, Thanks for opining. I was honestly just writing what I was told by several others and did not mean to get into an argument with Dirk, but felt that at this late hour of 12:45am, that I felt Dirk was angry and I apologize to him if I came across as angry or defensive and I will include him in this email to you Rob. Thanks again, Brian Take it easy! - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs,Northwest African meteorites I will opine that Kem Kem did have a bit of the catchall going for it but it did not precede NWA numbering The SA or Sahara numbers were first Other catchalls may include Oum Rokba (NWA400), NWA 869, Franconia, Dho 020 And let's slip in an ad...NWA 001 available here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280383448019 Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs,Northwest African meteorites Dirk, Why are you so angry? Your use of CAPS in INCORRECTLY and rambling on about hippies and food and Berber shave and Burma shave and all kinds of things that sound like you're high or drunk. Are you made at me about something or what has gotten into you? Is it because I asked your opinion on something or that I didn't buy any meteorites from you after asking you if you had certain specimens? I think it's inappropriate that you sent this to the list and went on and on about it. If you were clear headed you would have been able to tell that I wrote in the paragraph I sent that I was 'told' this information and NOT that it was my personal opinion, and I will print it here again: I was 'told' from our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA members for what we now call NWAs Northwest African meteorites. I did NOT state this was my view, nor did I state that this was the gospel from me. I stated, again, That I was told by others on the list, and IMCA members and if you had been reading the posts you would have read those. Everyone has said Kem Kem was a generic name and it seems to have DUG up a lot of old painful memories for you and you seem to be spewing them out here in anger at me. Please calm down and relax and read it again later today or in the evening when you can understand it better without jumping down my throat. There is something more than just my quote here that is angering you and I can't help you with that. Regards and all the best to you. Brian - Original Message - From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite- list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites Dear Brian and List, Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson. Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that a new find out of Morocco- Kem-Kem was Found in August, 1999. Stone. Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco. Casper`s catalogue lists: 22.4g @ $44.80; 26.9g@ $53.80 31.5g@ $63.00 33.5g@ $67.00 41.0g@ $82.00 46.8g@ $93.60 53.2g@ $106.40 58.6g@ $117.20 67.4g@ $134.80 70.0g@ $140.00 83.1g@ $166.20 114.9g@ $229.80
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
Hi When buying Casper's inventory there were quite a few specimens marked Kem Kem, but also some single pieces marked Kem Kem # (where # were different numbers up to about 30), most of them cut by half. So my conclusion is that most of the specimens are the original Kem Kem, but when something looked different, it was named differently by Casper. As with all meteorite finds, looking the same does not mean to be the same, but unless you want to test every rock you have to live with this. They were found around the same time of the Saharas 99xxx. I can't be sure that all of them came actually from Kem Kem area, or were transported pre-NWA. Hope this clears up a little this matter. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: Rob Wesel r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:49:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites Hi Rob, Thanks for opining. I was honestly just writing what I was told by several others and did not mean to get into an argument with Dirk, but felt that at this late hour of 12:45am, that I felt Dirk was angry and I apologize to him if I came across as angry or defensive and I will include him in this email to you Rob. Thanks again, Brian Take it easy! - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs,Northwest African meteorites I will opine that Kem Kem did have a bit of the catchall going for it but it did not precede NWA numbering The SA or Sahara numbers were first Other catchalls may include Oum Rokba (NWA400), NWA 869, Franconia, Dho 020 And let's slip in an ad...NWA 001 available here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280383448019 Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs,Northwest African meteorites Dirk, Why are you so angry? Your use of CAPS in INCORRECTLY and rambling on about hippies and food and Berber shave and Burma shave and all kinds of things that sound like you're high or drunk. Are you made at me about something or what has gotten into you? Is it because I asked your opinion on something or that I didn't buy any meteorites from you after asking you if you had certain specimens? I think it's inappropriate that you sent this to the list and went on and on about it. If you were clear headed you would have been able to tell that I wrote in the paragraph I sent that I was 'told' this information and NOT that it was my personal opinion, and I will print it here again: I was 'told' from our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA members for what we now call NWAs Northwest African meteorites. I did NOT state this was my view, nor did I state that this was the gospel from me. I stated, again, That I was told by others on the list, and IMCA members and if you had been reading the posts you would have read those. Everyone has said Kem Kem was a generic name and it seems to have DUG up a lot of old painful memories for you and you seem to be spewing them out here in anger at me. Please calm down and relax and read it again later today or in the evening when you can understand it better without jumping down my throat. There is something more than just my quote here that is angering you and I can't help you with that. Regards and all the best to you. Brian - Original Message - From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite- list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites Dear Brian and List, Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson. Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that a new find out of Morocco- Kem-Kem was Found in August, 1999. Stone. Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco. Casper`s catalogue lists: 22.4g @ $44.80; 26.9g@ $53.80 31.5g@ $63.00 33.5g@ $67.00 41.0g@ $82.00 46.8g@ $93.60 53.2g@ $106.40 58.6g@ $117.20 67.4g@ $134.80 70.0g@ $140.00 83.1g@ $166.20 114.9g@ $229.80
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Hi I have over 30 auctions ending in a few hours on ebay Some highlights: 633g ORIENTED Sikhote-Alin http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280327423490 0.31g part slice of ENSISHEIM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280327442336 MIGHEI a small but nice fragment of the M of the CM meteorites http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280327443761 A Spectacular ORIENTED CAMEL DONGA baby (5.3g) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280327558044 239g part slice of COVERT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280327443761 Or just take a look a all my acutions here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 thanks Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson show - Room changed
Hi I am finally in ROOM 136 (not 139 as printed in the guides or 146 as had to be). Hotel is the EXECUTIVE INN HOTEL, at Drachman and Main, just a few blocks north from the Innsuites. I will be visiting the InnSuites but my friend Eduardo will be at the room if anyone stop by today. Hope to see many of you this year. Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fun questions, or public FAQs
One I had several times: If a meteorite fell in your head will it kill you? Was somebody ever been killed by a meteorite? (they usually go one after the other) I always show the Park Porest Garza stone kit here. also Were the dinosaurs really been killed by meteorites? (most of the times by kids who love dinosaurs) Eduardo -Original Message- From: Mark Crawford m...@meteorites.cc To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:34:12 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Fun questions, or public FAQs I was reflecting yesterday on the fun I get showing my collection to guests, and talking about meteorites to non-hobbyists. It got me thinking that there are some standard questions which come up time and again. * Where do you get them from? [One of the few opportunities to use the line 'I buy from dealers by the gram' in polite conversation :) ] * How do you know they haven't just gone to the local DIY store and bought a bag of gravel? [or various versions of this] * How do you know it really comes from Mars/the Moon/the asteroids? ...and I suppose if the conversation comes round to it: * HOW much??? :) I wondered if other list members had any fun regular (or occasional) ones to share? Mark -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad. ebay auctions ending in 1 day. Murchison, Tucson, La Criolla
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites...
Argentina is getting harder in meteorites too. Look at this news from 2 days ago (sorry, spanish only): http://www.unoentrerios.com.ar/noticias/nota.php?id=1841 Two Uruguayans were caugth trying to smuggler meteorites from Argentina to Uruguay. They look like Campos. I heard there is an investigation right now the selling of illegal meteorites on-line (Campo del Cielo, Berduc and Santa Lucia), including web pages and auctions. Justice here is slow, very slow, it may take years, but their files don't dissapear. Don't be surprised if we have investigators next Tucson looking for the ones being sold there. By the way, here is an article (also in spanish), made by a lawyer, about the law. page 1 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=160Itemid=70 page 2 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=160Itemid=70limit=1limitstart=1 page 3 http://www.astroentrerios.com.ar/site/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=160Itemid=70limit=1limitstart=2 Eduardo -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:10:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites... I am thinking that there will be a increase in Campo prices due to the new laws. Another illegal meteorite, Berduc... It is widely available for sale on places like Ebay and a few dealers also offer it online. Not too long ago someone from the Metlist offered it in a rather discrete fashion - if anyone tried to save the video clip like I did, you know what Im talking about - it was also offered at the Bonhams auction. I honestly think that the legal status doesnt matter to most private collectors, it only really effects the dealers who would aquire it to sell it. Myself, as mainly a collector feel that nobody would come kicking in my door for owning a sample of this new canadian fall, Berduc or any other meteorite that is not aloowed to be exported... there are too many bigger issues to deal with. --- On Sat, 12/6/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Speaking of illegal Meteorites... To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 6:37 PM Hey Guys, All this talk about meteorites not being able to come out of Canada has me thinking... Argentina is known to come down hard on illegal fossil dealers at Tucson recently. Is there going to be a shortage of Campos this year at Tucson since the new laws came into effect in Argentina? If so, are we going to see a huge spike in their values? I don't know how much Campo material has moved each year for the last decade or so, but it has to be a very large amount. A strong Supply has kept the prices relatively low in the near past, but if all that is all of a sudden cut off, wow... Steve Arnold #1 www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom 0010) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 7, 2008
Hi Michael You mention that the pictured Malotas might be the only complete individual, but actually the main mass of 4712g is an individual which is now in my collection. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: Michael Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 03:38:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 7, 2008 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_7_2008.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Largest fall in the world?
You are missing the largest witnessed fall: Campo del Cielo. The main mass alone is largest than the tkw of Sikhote-Alin. Although pre-historic, it fell in a very populated area. It MUST had been seen by thousands of persons. Although no written documents of the fall (obviously being prehistoric), transmited legends of all the indians of the surrounding areas are consistent with this fact, mentioning falling rocks and fire from the sky. Eduardo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:29:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest fall in the world? Yes, Matt, of all the¨Official meteorite names, Sikhote-Alin represents: 45.9% of the witnessed TKW in Dr. Grossman's Database. Dr. Grossman's database does not include Gao and Monze which were fairly large falls and could slightly adjust that number down a percentage point or two. Bernd, Kunya-Urgench (plus the so-called Official Dashoguz) in your database and not make the cut? For reference when comparing these numbers, the USGS dadabase shows Sikhote Alin as 23 metric tons (over 25 of the American 2000 pounder tons). Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:47 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest fall in the world? Matt is wondering: Am wondering what is the largest fall, in terms of kg, ever witnessed? Was it Sikhote-Alin at 28 tons?? Hi Matt and List, Yes, as far as I can tell ... I had better say as far as my database(s) can tell :-) 1. Sikhote-Alin 2. Jilin 3. Allende 4. Pultusk 5. Norton County Best pre-Xmas wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation
That video was emited on open tv. I was not able to see it but was told about it. It was in 2 parts (the video is only the 1st part) Also was emited the telephone talk. The TV reporter bought a Campo del Cielo to Eric and there is indeed a judicial process going on: http://www.elliberal.com.ar/secciones.php?nombre=homefile=verid_noticia=081121DQ3 click on the links under relacionadas to see more articles about this. Eduardo - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Twelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation G'Day List You might find this interesting. It is in Spanish, but I think you'll get the idea... Here's the link, courtesy of Larense. http://www.tn.com.ar In the search area (top right corner) type in Campo del Cielo and then click on the video. Pretty interesting regardless. This could be the reporter that's looking for Eric. Cheers Johnno - Original Message - From: Eric Twelker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Hello List I thought this might be of some interest . . . Today I was contacted by someone who identified herself as an Argentine TV reporter. She asked questions about my sales of Campos and said I was under investigation in Argentina for violating their meteorite laws. She asked if I would come to Argentina to answer the charges. Having never been to Argentina, I suggested that I hadn't violated their laws--and I certainly wouldn't show up for their inquisition. I'm curious if others have had similar experiences. Eric Twelker http://www.meteoritemarket.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation
Martin The problem is not just a reporter calling, is that there is a judicial process now. And the new law is not to be considered as it is about NEW FINDS AND FALLS only (December 2007). The problem here is that ALL meteorites from Chaco province (including Campo de Cielo) are protected by a provincial law since 1993. So only Campo del Cielo meteorites that left the Chaco province before 1993 can be legally sold. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:39:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Don't worry Eric, ignore. When came the new law into force? In January? They and not you have to prove, whether there was an illicit export and whether it happened this year. Skol Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. November 2008 23:57 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Hello Eric and List, She asked if I would come to Argentina to answer the charges...I certainly wouldn't show up for their inquisition No such experiences here but the best you can do as a citizen of a free country is to simply ignore such b.s., sorry, nonsense. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation
The problem here is: How many LEGAL exports of Campo del Cielo meteorites BEFORE 1993 were done? Maybe a few of specimens to museums a long time ago, but I don't know any one done to dealers. If justice starts investigating deeply on this there will be a real problem here for dealers and collectors Eduardo -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:52:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation I would not worry about it, as a US resident you are covered under US law, and if Im not mistaken the grandfather laws will cover any exports prior to the ban taking effect. It will be interesting to see how this effects the price of Campo meteorites. Glad I have stocked up long time ago on them. --- On Thu, 11/20/08, John.L.Cabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John.L.Cabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 9:49 PM G'Day Jerry That's what I thought also. I was paying more attention to the websites and I thought that was Eric's site. Cheers Johnno - Original Message - From: Jerry Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John.L.Cabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric Twelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation thatr does look like Eric's web page - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Twelker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation G'Day List You might find this interesting. It is in Spanish, but I think you'll get the idea... Here's the link, courtesy of Larense. http://www.tn.com.ar In the search area (top right corner) type in Campo del Cielo and then click on the video. Pretty interesting regardless. This could be the reporter that's looking for Eric. Cheers Johnno - Original Message - From: Eric Twelker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Hello List I thought this might be of some interest . . . Today I was contacted by someone who identified herself as an Argentine TV reporter. She asked questions about my sales of Campos and said I was under investigation in Argentina for violating their meteorite laws. She asked if I would come to Argentina to answer the charges. Having never been to Argentina, I suggested that I hadn't violated their laws--and I certainly wouldn't show up for their inquisition. I'm curious if others have had similar experiences. Eric Twelker http://www.meteoritemarket.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation
Norm There is about 5% of the strewn field on Santiago del Estero province. Not many samples were really recovered there. Of course the ones in my collection are from Santiago del Estero. When you export mineral specimens from Argentina you have to declare province of origin. If a dealer can not trace back a specimen to a legal export of Campo del Cielo form Santiago del Estero province (or one from chaco before 1993), the problem still remains. Maybe Eric will get out of problems saying who sells the specimens to him, but in one part of the chain someone will be in trouble. The new law now covers ALL finds from Argentina, including newly recovered campos from Santiago del Estero province. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Norm Lehrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:25:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Eduardo, Several years ago I was told that the Campo strewn field overlaps the boundary into an adjacent province (Santiago del Estero?) which at that time had no laws regulating export. Hence, there was said to be a legal source outside of Chaco. Is this incorrect? Thanks, Norm --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 3:46 AM Martin The problem is not just a reporter calling, is that there is a judicial process now. And the new law is not to be considered as it is about NEW FINDS AND FALLS only (December 2007). The problem here is that ALL meteorites from Chaco province (including Campo de Cielo) are protected by a provincial law since 1993. So only Campo del Cielo meteorites that left the Chaco province before 1993 can be legally sold. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:39:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Don't worry Eric, ignore. When came the new law into force? In January? They and not you have to prove, whether there was an illicit export and whether it happened this year. Skol Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. November 2008 23:57 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Argentine Campo Investigation Hello Eric and List, She asked if I would come to Argentina to answer the charges...I certainly wouldn't show up for their inquisition No such experiences here but the best you can do as a citizen of a free country is to simply ignore such b.s., sorry, nonsense. Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: 917g superb oriented Sikhote + over 50 ebay auctions
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[meteorite-list] ebay problem. can someone check my auction?
Sorry to bother you but could someone check the following auctions to see if you can see them? I got a message that they are blocked and don't know if its just to my country or to all. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254426018 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254417479 I put here 2 links, but half of my auctions have this problem thanks Eduardo -Original Message- From: Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:18:16 -0300 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions. Wold Cottage, Camel Donga, Zaklodzie, Portales Valley Hi I have a new auction ending in one day. 49 auctions, all starting at $0.99 with special highlights: WOLD COTTAGE 6.21g slice with nice chondrules http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254439019 I can't believe that this is historic meteorite that fell in 1795 is LESS THAN $1/g! CAMEL DONGA 21g Oriented very nice specimen http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254416259 Zaklodzie 2.15g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254439968 Sahara 97210 L/LL3.6 With AMAZING chondrules http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254410364 Zagora 201 gr. Individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254413585 Portales Valley, just 2.3g but with nice metal and fusion crust http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254425359 and 44 auctions more including Gibeon, Sikhote Alin, Henburym, Mundravilla for the iron lovers Gao, Allende, Ragland, Northbranch, Oum Dreyga, Sahara 99597 for the chondrules seekers Zagami, Tatahouine, Norton county, Sahara 98505 Ureilite, DAG 779 Howardite for the Achondrite collectors Some old Sahara main mases never offered before and more you can see here: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/smfmeteorites also remember to check my new web page www.smf.com.ar thanks for stop by Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ebay problem. can someone check my auction?
Hi Jack and list I just contacted ebay live help and they told me that other dealers are having the same problem and they are working on it. I can see some of them, and on others I see: Dear User: Unfortunately, access to this particular item has been blocked due to legal restrictions in some countries. We are blocking your viewing in an effort to prevent restricted items from being displayed. Regrettably, in some cases, we may prevent users from accessing items that are not within the scope of said restrictions because of limitations of existing technology. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause, and we hope you may find other items of interest on eBay. Thank You. At least I know that buyers can bid, even if I can't change anything on them. thanks for your help Eduardo -Original Message- From: Jack Schrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Eduardo.' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:04:52 -0700 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] ebay problem. can someone check my auction? Hi Eduardo. I can see the auctions okaythe links worked fine and I had no trouble viewing your auctions. Jack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo. Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:30 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] ebay problem. can someone check my auction? Sorry to bother you but could someone check the following auctions to see if you can see them? I got a message that they are blocked and don't know if its just to my country or to all. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254426018 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254417479 I put here 2 links, but half of my auctions have this problem thanks Eduardo -Original Message- From: Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:18:16 -0300 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions. Wold Cottage, Camel Donga, Zaklodzie, Portales Valley Hi I have a new auction ending in one day. 49 auctions, all starting at $0.99 with special highlights: WOLD COTTAGE 6.21g slice with nice chondrules http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254439019 I can't believe that this is historic meteorite that fell in 1795 is LESS THAN $1/g! CAMEL DONGA 21g Oriented very nice specimen http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254416259 Zaklodzie 2.15g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254439968 Sahara 97210 L/LL3.6 With AMAZING chondrules http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254410364 Zagora 201 gr. Individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254413585 Portales Valley, just 2.3g but with nice metal and fusion crust http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280254425359 and 44 auctions more including Gibeon, Sikhote Alin, Henburym, Mundravilla for the iron lovers Gao, Allende, Ragland, Northbranch, Oum Dreyga, Sahara 99597 for the chondrules seekers Zagami, Tatahouine, Norton county, Sahara 98505 Ureilite, DAG 779 Howardite for the Achondrite collectors Some old Sahara main mases never offered before and more you can see here: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/smfmeteorites also remember to check my new web page www.smf.com.ar thanks for stop by Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad- ebay auction ending in 2 days
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Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall
Hi Doug and list. Before anyone start packing to fly down to Argentina, be aware that there is a new law (from December 2007) and ALL THE NEW METEORITES ARE NOW ARGENTINE HERITAGE. So they can not be exported without goverment papers. I was not able to see any stones yet (I'm having a hard week). If I have any confirmation I will let you know. Eduardo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:07:41 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall Hi Listees, No one mentioned this? Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces. This earlier article shows the location, and here is a translation of the foreign tongue for Alfonso: http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the agricultural engineer Gabriela Preto told of the recovery of various pieces of black rocks, as if burned, that when scratched expose a metallic and silvered interior. They can't be cut, nor scratched with the finger. They will be analyzed by Mariano Petter, the director of the Enterriana Association of Astronomy, who is investigating this in the area. Best wishes and Great Health, Doug __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall-clarification
It did not hit a well, it was found in a hole. Just wrong translation Eduardo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:42:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall-clarification Addendum, Hi Listees, I got this question privately. As strictly a news messenger, here is what I think: It hit a well? Wow! Actually, the word well is probably best translated as simply a hole (which is well, a natural well). I don't think the human constructed variety, though the other fragment(s) on the roof seems to indicate heavenly target practice. Probably, the 700 g specimen made a small tunnel in the peat or wet soil of the nursury grounds impact hole of the plop in the mud type. Seems the 700 gram piece tunneled a (fore)arm's length into the ground - so probably the hole was made by the rock. But this is tentative news. It could be all wet, and the suspected meteorite probably was, too. Best wishes and Great Health, Doug == OK, but don't you wish you were the 29-year old specialist (this is the word used to describe him in the article), coordinator of the Astronomical Association there? Sorry for my terrible English:  http://www.wikio.es/ciencia/astronomia?wfid=52312711  Armed with a magnet, some flashlights, sample tubes, a GPS locator, a computer, laptop with the land's topography and celestial objects, four members of the Astronomy Association went out without much hope to comb the ground. It's a version much less Hollywoodesque of Agent Mulder of the X-Files, he laughed.  The celestial object that turned night into day last Sunday already has a name: meteorite. We're speaking of a meteoritethe size of a fist, 700 grams, in a well of a nursury in Colonia Berduc., in the Department of Colon, together with another five smaller pieces of three cm that were on the roof and in the shade The confirmation, in a completely informational report came with the excited voice of Mariano Andres Peter on the other end of the phone.  Peter is the coordinator of the Entrerriana Association of Astronomy, the entity responsible for the searching and finding of a heavenly body that fell Sunday night in the Argentine province of Entre Rios. It has to do with a black burnt stone and very pulverized., a rock with a very fragile makeup and iron, that reveal it to be a meteorite for its high level of magnetism, explains Peter. As well, the Entrerriana Astronomical Association will study the fragments in the llaboratory to provide a final verification.  The fragmentation of the celestial body en pieces, the enormous ground to cover, the topography of the swamplands, estuaries, and forests over which it fell make it a huge stroke of luck. We could've taken days, weeks, months or years, Peter realizes.In light of this, he considers that the find in less than 24 hours is a stroke of luck.  The description, according to this 29-year old expert, explains why the incandescent object the size of a car that the locals saw in the sky broke into pieces before arriving on the ground. It is a very fragile material that could've fragmented in hundreds of pieces in different Argentine provinces he suggests.  A judge from the municipality already has found that these meteorites- of some value in the National market- only can be used for investigation and scientific dissemination. So, the helicopters, mass media, and a group of astronomers have already bashed into the the lives of the rural residents of Villa Dominguez, Colon, and San Salvador, frightened by the very odd news.  Best wishes and Great Health, Doug         -Original Message- From: Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:36 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall  Not for me, Doug.  I don´t need translations, since my language is latin, too.  That thing of the allien language was a joke towards the high intelectuality of many of the specialists.:-)  Armando Afonso (no L, please)    - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:07 PM  Subject: [meteorite-list] April 6, 2008 witnessed fall    Hi Listees,    No one mentioned this?    Apparently the meteorite that was reported and fell Sunday night in Argentina is already confirmed by several pieces. This earlier article shows the location, and here is a translation of the foreign tongue for Alfonso:    http://www.clarin.com/diario/2008/04/08/sociedad/s-01646156.htm    Nearby [Entre Rios] is the locality of Berduc, where the agricultural engineer Gabriela
[meteorite-list] Sikhote alin at Meteor Crater: Hexahedrite
Hi After Tucson show, I stop by the Meteor Crater. In the exhibition there is a display with a few iron meteorites which include a Sikhote alin which is labeled as Hexahedrite. I talked with a man from there and I pointed the mistake. He told me that the display was there for several years. Anyone realized about this? I did a search on the web and found another place listing it as Hexahedrite: http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/sikhote-alin.htm maybe was classified before as an Hexahedrite? Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Back in Ebay. Auctions ending tomorrow
Hi After some monthes of incactivity I'm back in the game. 47 items are ending tomorrow on Ebay. Most of them started at $1 and several are still $1! You can find Zagami, Allende, Huckita, Brenham, Thuathe, Gibeon, Sikhote- Alin, Norton County, Lafayette and many more. take a look at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorites.com thanks Eduardo meteorites.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Tucson Show - InnSuites
Keith and List The bad treatment of the InnSuites is not only to meteorite dealers, is to all the dealers that are not friend of the organizers. After the show, I recevied a letter telling that my reservation was cancelled, because the comission didn't like my display and specimens. I talked to some dealers and this happended to many dealers, and not only meteorite related. The show closed one of the hotels and they need the best rooms to put their friends. All the explanation of displays, quality, etc is bullshit. They ask dealers to have the contracts ready one week before the show closes, then confirm it, and then once you are not in town they send a letter by post mail (not a fast e-mail, not a phone call) kicking you off without opportunity to find a new location. I even talk with Marty Zinn the last day in Tucson and he did not mention a word about this!. After some e-mails, they offered to give me a new chance... but in the 2nd floor, which I answer absolutely NOT. So next Tucson, anyone that want great wholesale prices will have to call me to make an appointment and see my specimens. I will give more information close to the show dates. Eduardo www.meteorites.com -Original Message- From: Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, The earth's Memory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:53:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Dates Link help Inns Suites and/or the show organizers has never treated meteorite dealers with any respect, they do this year after year to meteorite dealers, kicking them out, or moving to rooms with less traveled paths. Am I wrong here, what do other dealers at the Tucson show think, also Meteorite dealers have been called traffickers in the press, Let stop this anti-meteorite dissemination! Thanks for your time. Keith Will help for Meteorites Chandler AZ ps. Everyone must come to this years show, we will have a blast and make an impact. - Original Message - From: The earth's Memory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:52 AM Subject: Tucson Show Dates Link Dear Keith, how are you doing ? fine we hope !! we are actually preparing our Tucson show, this year is very bad for us, as some competitors successfully paid the organisation to get us kicked out of our room we were there for 7 years fortunatly with many contact of our network, we finaly forced the organisator to give us a room at the Inn Suites but only second floor. so now we would like to know if we can rent you and some friends to help us bringging our heavy show cases to the first floor. this has to be at the set up and at the break down of the show. of course we will pay you well if you can assist us during this painfull moments... please let us know as we need to prepare our show as soon as possible ! Cheers from France, Bruno Carine La Memoire de la Terre Sarl The Earth's Memory LLC France www.meteorite.fr www.fossile.fr Consider the environment before printing this mail. - Original Message - From: Arizona Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Dates Link Tucson show Start Feb 5 2008, ends 14th Here's a link http://www.tucsongemshowguide.com/ Keith Chandler AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.7/1062 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 17:11 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Campo del Cielo STAMP. First stamp in 3D
Hi There is a new stamp of the Campo del Cielo meteorites. The block has a stamp of the Chaco meteorite, the main mass of Campo del Cielo. Also pictured in the block is a drawing of the Campo del Cielo Fall. The most amazing thing about this stamp is that the Chaco photo is IN 3- D!. THIS IS THE FIRST STAMP IN 3 DIMENSIONS: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/stamp.jpg I have available some sets which include: * the block pictured above * a pair of glasses to see the 3D effect: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/lentes.jpg * a promotional cover for the stamp: http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/folleto1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/folleto1b.jpg * and a booklet with the history and description of Campo del Cielo as good as information of the stamp. This is very nice as some of the photos of the booklet ARE ALSO 3D http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroext1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroext2.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroint1.jpg http://www.meteorites.com/stamp/libroint2.jpg The set is U$S 4 each+sh Shipping cost is U$S 4 for 1 to 4 sets, and $10 for 5 or more sets payment can be done by paypal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that the photo and the other 3d pictures seem to be out of focus as you need the 3d glasses to see the 3 dimensional effect. Eduardo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] showing off your collections
Last February after Tucson show I was able to visit two collections: Bob Cucchiara and Jason Peter Utas. It was an amazing experience. I had a great time in both visits and I would like to thank them and their familes. Each collection is different and to see other's treasures is amazing: Bob and his hundreds of beauty specimens, Jason and Peter with their amazing big Irons and their Californians dry lakes discoveries. I also visited Matt Morgan and Oscar Turone homes in the past and I hope to have the chance to see more collections in the future. About my own collection, I had several visitors, including some well known meteorite friends as Sabine Valange and Zelimir Gabelica. Of course anyone that came down here (Buenos Aires) is invited to see it. Eduardo -Original Message- From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [meteorite-list] showing off your collections Hi rob.That was a great post.I offer this up to anyone who comes thru chicagoland.I will be more than happy to show off my very nice gao collection.In 8 plus years of collecting,I have only seen 2 collections.JASON PHILLIPS and SONNY CLARY.Both very impressive.For jason's,the sheer size of everthing he has and for sonny's,all the nevada finds he has.It would be nice to see other's.I know we have alot of list members in the midwest.It would be nice to throw like a midwest gathering for a day like a saturday.I think that would be fun. steve arnold Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites ___ _ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Hi Moni I taked with Maria a couple of days ago, when she was driving to Holbrook. I wanted to go this year but I was not able to do it so. I am also planning to go next year after the show. It will be great if we make a hunting trip with other collectors. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:21:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Hi Larry and list members, next year - I am going! I am planning on taking off a week so I have time to go searching as well hopefully with you and Maria, maybe David Freeman will come along also. This is a big meteorite! Congratulations It was wonderful to have met you at the auction. Tell Maria and Dave Andrews congratulations also. We should go as a big group next year, that would be super! With best regards, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW! Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:30:42 -0500 Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins __ __ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http: //imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=h mtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
I started collecting stamps and seashells when I was a small kid. Then when I was 12 a friend of my father (a micromounter of minerals) gave me my first fossils and minerals. I was amazed with the fossil seashells and ammonites, as one of my most loved seashells were the nautilus. For several years fossils were my main interest, then I turned to both minerals and fossils. I also like archeology. For the last 20 years Ive been trying to get some representative items of worldwide different cultures. And about 12 years ago I discovered the meteorites. My seashell collection is still at my parents house, but did not add anything in the last 25 years. Stamps collecting was dropped several years ago (except for some related with minerals, fossils, meteorites and mineral collecting/deposits/mining I like). I have a cabinet with about 300 archealogy pieces (rarely add something new here). And now my three main collecting areas are: Minerals, Fossils and Meteorites Lets start with Minerals: I have over 11000 Micromounts with about 2500 different species, a fluorescent collection of 300 specimens with over 150 different minerals, and another 2000 specimens displayed in 12 cabinets including one with about 150 different pseudomorphs. I especially like Sulfides, Fluorites and the Phosphate / Arseniante / Vanadate group. About fossils, I have 7 cabinets with over 600 fossils, and lots of drawers, totaling about 1500 more fossil remains, especially cephalopods (amonites, nautilus, etc). And finally my most recent collection: Meteorites. In the beginning they were included in my mineral collection, and about 6 years ago I start building a separated collection which now consist of about 340 meteorites, with over 300 different ones including 100 different falls and 100 different not sahara/dag/nwa finds. I have them in 3 cabinets in a humidity controlled room. Eduardo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary K. Foote Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:11 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect? As a neophyte collector of meteorites I have amassed about $1K in specimens, all of which I cherish dearly. I am learning about preservation as some of my specimens are beginning to show signs of scaling, kamacite ooze and other such degradations. Interestingly enough, along the way I've also become interested in terrestrial rocks, fossils, impactites and the like. I was just wondering; What else does everyone collect? Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unbelievably late package - my story
Walter Sorry to hear that I was at Denver on 9/11, and had to ship 5 boxes with stones (up to 20kg each) back to Argentina. I was afraid that they will be lost, but fortunately all arrived safe, even more, they were some of the faster shipments I had. They took about 3 weeks for a surface shipment. Normally takes 1.5 monthes to a record of 5 monthes to arrive. This record one arrived 2 monthes after I made a claim, so it seems it was delayed in some of the post offices and when the claim arrived to that office the box was found and sent. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:08:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unbelievably late package - my story Hello Everyone, Not long after the 9/11 attacks here in America, I sent two large irons to Norway and Philedelphia. They never made it. What was I thinking? I was trying to send two large chunks of iron across America and across the Atlantic Ocean. I can only imagine the anxieties the packages must have produced when the x-ray machines were sounding off like crazy. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List of recent falls?
Hi Bjorn and list I checked the Meteorite Database on-line: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php If you select Falls, and in search text put an *, you will get a list of all approved falls up to now. (I recommend to select 2000 lines/page too so you see them all in one page) Last update was 2 Sept 2006 From the 1201 listed meteorite falls, the most recent I found there are Benguerir Official2004 Tensift, Morocco LL6 Maigatari-Danduma Official 2004 Zinder, Niger H5/6 Orlando Official2004 Florida, USA Eucrite Villalbeto de la Peña Official2004 Castilla y Leon, Spain L6 No approved meteorite falls from 2005 and 2006? Eduardo -Original Message- From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:01:04 +0200 Subject: [meteorite-list] List of recent falls? List, If you have 'The Catalogue of Meteorites' or similar resource one can quite esily find the falls (and finds) up to 2000. But what about the most recent falls in later years. Does anyone maintain a list or web-page of recent falls with the most relevant information of each? Would be a most welcomed resource for people like us. Almost tempted to make one my self, but I guess there are something like that out there. I guess the meteoritical bulletin is not in a form which make it very readable for this purpose. Bjørn Sørheim http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/meteor/060714/moss.html About the most recent fall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I hope that this was not one of our meteorite dealers!
Hi They are talking about Rhodo co. Front page in newspapers in Argentina. A couple of links (in spanish) http://www.lanacion.com.ar/EdicionImpresa/informaciongeneral/nota.asp? nota_id=783394 http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/02/24/sociedad/s-04501.htm Eduardo -Original Message- From: Pat Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:11:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] I hope that this was not one of our meteorite dealers! Hi All, The BBC are reporting the arrest of a fossil dealer at the Tuscon show for trying to sell dino eggs belonging the the goverment of Argentina. Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4745752.stm Pat aka crusty __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?
I gave a lecture for my kids school (also at age 8). I started with a nightime story, a kid going to bed, then suddenly in the middle of the night a crash sound, breaking noises and when he turned the light off his room window and ceiling was broken (you have to put some suspense telling it). Then tell the story is true, it happened a couple of years ago in Park forest. Kids loved this starting and start go put a lot of attention (at least in the next minutes) Don't forget to mention mars and the moon meteorites (if you can show them theese meteorites much better). A video of Peekskill (or another fall) is a good idea. If you have a pallasite slice don't forget to bring it (in a membrane box it is safe). Girls love gems from space. And of course, the theories of life caming from space with carbonaceous meteorites, and especially the mass death of the dinosaurs are highlights that can't be missed. At that age kids love to discover things, so they will like anything new. good luck Eduardo -Original Message- From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:01 -0800 Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day
Re: [meteorite-list] Harvey Awards - New Catagory
yes! Eduardo At 11:24 AM 1/24/2006, you wrote: Dear List Members, A month or two ago I posted to the list that I felt that Steve Arnold - IMB and Phil Mani should be nominated for a Harvey Award for their Huge Brenham Main Mass discovery and also Geoff Notkin for his tireless work on behalf of the Hurricane Katrina Fund Raiser among other too-numerous to list meteorite-related activities. I know that Geoff and Steve originally set up the Harvey Awards where they could not nominate themselves for an award. I would like all list members to join me here on the list to nominate these fine gentleman for a Harvey Award an encourage them to make a new category where they could receive an award if enough of us voted YES to this. Maybe they could create a People's Choice award or something along these lines. Everyone in favor, send the list a resounding YES and lets acknowledge their contributions and achievements in public. Consider this my YES vote... Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Term Main Mass +add
I made some internet search and found the following definition of main mass at http://www.meteoritekit.com/glossary/ Main Mass The Main Mass refers to the total pre-atmospheric mass of a meteoroid or the largest known fragment of a meteorite. thats the strangest definiton of main mass I ever read! In my opinion, the main mass is the largest fragment or piece collected after a fall/found of a specific meteorite fall. If you cut it, each of the fragments came from the main mass, and the largest of them is now the main mass... unless a the 2nd larger specimen of that fall/find is larger than all of the fragments, then the main mass is gone forever. So the main mass is the largest fragment of the largest specimen collected if it's still the largest known piece of that fall/find. Going now to desert meteorites, if you are 100% sure that two specimens came from the same strewnfield, and they are paired, then only one of them should have a main mass. In paired DAG's, for example, where you know where they were collected, only one of the pieces should be the main mass (so, several DAG numbers, one main mass). In most of the NWA, as they are bought from nomades this is almost impossible to be told, so each NWA number have it's own main mass. Of course the meaning for a collector of having a main mass from a NWA and one from other locality is not the same. This year I was able to obtain the first main mass from a Fall in my collection (according to my definition). It was a 1.4kg specimen of Arbol Solo, fall on 1954, Sept 11. The TKW until last year was 899g. Now it went to 2.3kg. Now the add, I will have a few specimens taken from the main mass at Tucson. Less than 150g was cut and no more will be cut from it (preserving the main mass in my collection). Most of the rest of this meteorite is locked or lost. If you want to see them just stop at my room. Eduardo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:13:13 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Term Main Mass Since you are collecting opinions I'll give you 2 of them, my 2 cents worth so a penny each. First the cynical one - Buyers like to own main masses, sellers like to sell things. The looser the defination of main mass the more there are to sell. Buyers are happy, sellers are happy. Second my personal defination. If a stone isn't at least 1/2 the total mass recovered from the fall it isn't a main mass. Since the total mass recovered from the fall is unknown for NWA meteorites none of them qualify. That defination eliminates 98% of the so called main masses, Norton County being one of the few qualifiers. Buyers won't like that defination because it makes main masses virtually impossible to own. Sellers won't like it because it removes a sexy selling label. But it makes it easy for me to put together sales pages. I have never owned a main mass by my defination and have therefore never listed a meteorite as a main mass at my web site. It is my personal defination which I don't expect to see adopted in the meteorite community, but it suffices for me. -- Eric Olson ELKK Meteorites http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show
Gary Check the following link to see the Tucson Show Guide with all the shows and dates http://www.tucsonshowguide.com/tsg/ The main show (Tucson Gem and Mineral Show) at the Tucson Convention Center is the only one you have to pay to get in. The rest are free. You don't need to register at most of the shows. Some of the wholesale gem or bead shows require registering, but none of them have meteorites dealers. see you there Eduardo InnSuites # 311 -Original Message- From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:17:45 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show Hi Listers, This will be my first year to the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. It looks like I have to register to buy anything? Or is that only at the expo center. Where else in town are shows/sales going on during the week of Feb 2 - 9? Gary Foote __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back
Hi Al, Harlan and all The biggest auction page from Argentina, www.mercadolibre.com.ar, which is associated with e-bay, developed a much better feedback system. You have 30 days to leave feedback, but the other part can't see the feedback he received until he put his feedback or the 30 days end. So no way of retaliate. Then you can make a comment on the feedback received just as oyu can on e-bay. This system is much better than the one of e-bay. Anyway I don't think that a suggestion to e-bay will make them change their system, especially because they charge when you try to take out the negative feedbacks... Eduardo -Original Message- From: harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:48:13 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back htmldiv style='background-color:'Pi am still trying to develope a bad feedback sniper that will automatically leave feedback (of any type) at the LAST SECOND, so that it times out and the other cannot retaliate. i am still trying to figure out ebay's time engine on such. this would purify ebay. E-E-E-verybody on ebay has good feedback, just from the fear of retaliatory bad feedback!BRBR/PBRBRBR DIVi will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/A /DIV BLOCKQUOTE style=PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0pxFONT style=FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1 From: IMichael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]/IBRTo: IAl Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/IBRSubject: IRe: [meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back/IBRDate: IMon, 03 Oct 2005 11:56:42 -0700/IBRHi Al and all,BR The eBay feedback system is so transparently flawed I giveBRit nearly zero credibility. If someone has multiple complaints,BRonly then does it matter to me. I never use it unless a buyerBRdirectly pleads with me and I don't give a damn if anyone usesBRit with me.BR Since this whole rating thing is based on the whims of a hugeBRpopulation peppered here and there with sickos, I consider anyBRrating over 97%+ excellent and 100% nothing short of miraculous.BR Al, it is clearly unfair that you got dinged but that is theBRnature of this eBay set up. It should always be viewed as generallyBRreflecting the business practices of an individual. Anyone within theBR97%+ range indicates only whackos have a problem with him/her.BR While a perfect 100% is what all dealers should strive for, itBRis unrealistic to believe any of us could maintain it because thereBRARE people who will try to cheat you and when you don't let themBRthey will strike back with a negative feedback.BR Your one defense is a responding feedback - but even then,BReBay screws you again by limiting you to like 25 words! Even so,BRyou can clarify (within obvious limits) what really occurred. Then,BRsince your rating is like 99% anyone looking into the single negativeBRfeedback can trace your response and read it. It ends up hurting theBRoriginal complainer far more than you, as they inevitably have multipleBRcomplaints and you have one. Who's most believable in a such a heBRsaid - she said scenario?BR I know it is frustrating when one works for years attempting toBRbe entirely fair in every way in every deal. You start to take a goodBRdeal of pride in being a 100% honest and fair dealer under everyBRcircumstance. Then comes the time someone tries to cheat youBRand you won't let them - and they ding YOUR reputation! But,BRremember, while pride, when properly aligned can be a good thing, itBRcan also be destructive if we become obsessed.BR So, word your negative feedback carefully and rationally andBRanyone so inclined can trace your negative feedback and checkBRout your response. But, do you think anyone will be concerned if youBRhave a 99.7% positive rating?BR Unfair, yes. Damaging? - not really. Only the most naive peopleBRcould possibly think someone with hundreds of deals should haveBRa perfect rating when the rating is based on the whims of a publicBRthat includes all manor of whackos and deviants.BR It is good you care about your reputation. It wouldn't be goodBRto obsess about it. 99% makes you A # 1 in any sane person's book.BR Best wishes, MichaelBRBRBRBRBRBRBRon 10/3/05 9:57 AM, AL Mitterling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:BRBR List,BR BR I'll only burden the list with this one time then prefer people email meBR in private so we don't take up list space. I have received a negativeBR feedback for the first time out about 450 some transactions.BR BR The negative feed back came as a result of my negative feed back to themBR for not paying for and item they won after four weeks and three days. IBR am interested in sharing the name of this ebay
Re: [meteorite-list] Cubic forms of meteoritic minerals Winners Announced Pt.1
Hi Dirk If you look at your quiz: Quiz: Do cubic forms exist in meteorites and in which minerials? A prize will be rewarded for the most correct and detailed answer. Thank you and cube on, Dirk RossTokyo You are looking for CUBIC FORMS. Most of the minerals listed have a cubic crystalline structure, but that does not mean that the minerals have cubic form in the meteorites. For example, when I mentioned that I found cubic crystals of magnetite in my nantan specimens, that surprised me a lot, as magnetite, although cubic have a cubic structure, usually is found as octahedrons, not cubes. I have terrestrial crystals of magnetite from over 20 locations, but cubic from only 2) Most of the minerals described in meteorites have no crystal form, they are just massive, so no CUBIC FORM. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Bernd [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harald Stehlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:06:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] Cubic forms of meteoritic minerals Winners Announced Pt.1 Dear List, I had many replies from members of this list. Bernd had the most complete list and wins the First Prize. Harald Shehlik wins second prize because he included more information, but his list did not include as many cubic minerals as Bernd. Tom K. wins the Proud Tom prize for his Proud Tom answer that, it depends on how big you cut the meteorite into a cube. Thank you for all that participated!!! First Prize: 50grams of Potter, Nebraska. Second Prize: Special impactite. Proud Tom Prize: a meteorite. I will in Pt.2 send Harald`s answer. Perhaps someone on this list will kindly add these answers to their website ((please cite Bernd Pauli, Harald Stehlik and Dirk Ross (I contributed to three of Bernd`s answers)if used)). Best to all, from Tokyo, Dirk Ross --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 21 Feb 2005 09:39:00 01) cristobalite (SiO2) 02) gold (Au) 03) silver (Ar) 04) copper (Cu) 05) kamacite (alpha-FeNi) 06) pyrite (FeS2) 07) taenite (gamma-FeNi) 09) halite (NaCl) 10) sylvite (KCl) 11) periclase (MgO) 12) perovskite (CaTiO3) 13) diamond (C) 14) haxonite (FeNi)23C6) 15) carlsbergite (CrN) 16) sphalerite (ZnS) 17) daubreelite (FeCr2S4) 18) djerfisherite (K3CuFe12S14) 19) pentlandite (FeNi)9S8) 20) ferromagnesian alabandite (Fe0.2Mg0.3Mn0.5)S 21) magnetite (Fe3O4) 22) wEtite (Fe1-xO) 23) chromite (FeCr2O4) 24) spinel (MgAl2O4) 25) hercynite (FeMg)Al2O4) 26) ulvöspinel (Fe2TiO4) 27) galena (PbS) 28) cliftonite (cliftonitic graphite = C) 29) austenite (face centered cubic austenite)*** 30) cuprite (Cu2O) 31) suessite (Fe3Si) 32) cubic martensite (alpha2-FeNi) 33) melilite (square cross sections / [(Ca,Na)2(Mg,Al)(si,Al)2O7]) 34) gehlenite (square cross sections / [Ca2Al(AlSiO7)]) 35) akermanite (square cross sections) / [(Ca2MgSi2O7)]) 36) sodalite [(Na4(Si3Al3)O12Cl)] 37) roaldite (FeNi)4N 38) osbornite (TiN) Bernd *** My checking indicates that Austenite is the terrestrial form of Taenite. dirk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!!
Hi Dirk and list I have in my collection two Nantan specimens with cubic crystals of Magnetite (I make an x-ray diffraction on them so I'm 100% sure) I had a 300g specimen in my collection for about 7 years, one day after about 2 years, I picked it up and it split in two!, in the fracture, almost 50% of the new surface was covered by very sharp cubic microcristals, some of them somewhat iridiscent. I gave a sample to a friend who made the XRD and confirmed it was magnetite. About 2 - 3 years ago at Tucson show a chinese dealer was selling very rusted nantan specimens, I checked em all and one of the pieces had lots of those cristals on the shale. I don't know if this count for you as they are not in the meteorite itself but in the rusted shale part. But as I consider Hoba shale, and Santa Catharina as meteorites then for me this are cubic crystals in a meteorite. Eduardo -Original Message- From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:07:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: cubes and their history? Contest with Prize!!! List, The NBS (Nationial Bureau of Standards) US maintains the universal standard cubic centimeter as well as all standards, metric and US standards in their very precise, expensive and highly guarded collection. Most likely many other countries have their own Standards collection. The history of the use of a cube dates at least to 4000 B.C.? or earlier in Egyptian culture...in the form of dice? and building blocks; but was not only unique to their culture. Early Chinese also had their standard cube by at least 2000 B.C. The idea of the cube probably came from observing natural cubic pyrite or other minerials with a cubic habit. The first use of the cube associated with meteorites perhaps was by the Japanese in Antartica. Caveat: I may be incorrect. Quiz: Do cubic forms exist in meteorites and in which minerials? A prize will be rewarded for the most correct and detailed answer. Thank you and cube on, Dirk RossTokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham
Michael Please contact me off line regarding your lost package of early last year. I sent 3 e-mails in the last month and did not received any answer. best regards Eduardo -Original Message- From: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:34:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham Hello, Darren, I didn't get those emails, otherwise I would of replied. Anyway, who says every email gets through? I did send your package out and if it does not show up...let me know in another week... After selling about 7000+ meteorites through ebay, about 99.99% make it through Yes, I am slower these days Best Wishes Michael Cottingham - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:51:06 +0100, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus it doesn't matter, if one has to wait sometimes a little longer, does it? Waiting more that two weeks for a shipment from the US, to the US, when other items I bought AFTER then from other people (even other countries) have arrived (sent standard shipping, not Priority Mail)? And then not a word of reply to why there is a problem? ANY reply would have been fine with me. If he had said that he had shipped them two weeks ago, I'd assume that they were lost in the mail, and would eat the loss, as I didn't have it insured. If he said that he had been too busy and hadn't mailed it, I'd forgive him. If he said that he was having personal problems and hadn't mailed it, I'd forgive him. If he said the package was misplaced at home and he hadn't mailed it, I'd forgive him. Ignoring my e-mails, though, means poor customer service and that I most likely will never buy from him again. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2005....here I come
-Original Message- From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 01:36:33 -0600 Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2005here I come If you are a first timer, please come up and say hello to me. And some short advise...stay away from the chicken. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com Hi Mark You should stay away from sushi. Remember the dinner last year... see you there Eduardo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Amazing e-bay auctions ending in less than 2 hours
Hi You have less than two hours left to bid on some amazing specimens: Krasnojarsk 4.41g fragment. Only specimen I have available (this was in my personal collection, I just upgraded it). Millbillillie 15.3g end piece. Very nice! DAG 489 killer 2.36g fragment with polished face. An extremely nice martian shergotite. ... and over 40 auctions more: Zagami, Sahara 97089 (EH3), Thuathe, Allende, Juancheng, Huckitta, Vaca Muerta, Gao-Guenie, sikhote alin (one with a small hole!), Henbury and much more. look for seller meteorites.com on www.ebay.com, or use the following link http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteorites.com Eduardo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] EBay - auctions ending in few hours.
A small note to let you know that a new batch of auctions is ending in a few hours. Our usual stuff plus a nice slice of millbillillie: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=3239item=2272897442rd=1 you can check em at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZmeteoritesQ2ecomQQ or look for seller meteorites.com thanks for the time reading this (and especially for bidding!) Eduardo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] contact Ted Bunch
Hi Anyone has the e-mail or any contact information of Ted Bunch? Please answer me privately. thanks Eduardo Jawerbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Barratta: full slice 474g!! on ebay, also Lemmon, Bereba and more
Hi Great auctions valued thousands of $ are ending this weekend on e-bay. Including an amazing 474g of Baratta: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=3239item=2259344539 Lemmon, Bilanga, Bereba, Thuathe and many many more specimens Important news: We accept paypal now so go and bid! Look at the auctions at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteorites.com or search on e-bay for seller meteorites.com here: http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html Eduardo meteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] q on storing micromounts
Hi Greg Nothing beats the membrane boxes for storing meteorites, especially micromounts. take a look at: http://www.meteorites.com/boxes.html You can see also some photos of my collection (take a look at the labels there) Eduardo -Original Message- From: greg Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:04:27 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] q on storing micromounts Folks What is a good way to store/display meteorites in micromounts? I am interested in having the ability to display some, and the ability to store others while not having them scratech and being easy to read the lables to find ones I might be interested in. A related question, what is a good way to put labels on? Thank you Greg Edwards __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay ad: Bjurbole 231g!!! and lot of stuff ending this weekend
Hi I have a special auction ending this weekend. 231g Bjurbole, 41.9g Miles, 27.2g Springwater, and great specimens of Homestead, Bereba, Thuathe... too many to name all. just look for ebay seller meteorites.com or follow this link: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteorites.com meteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo
Randy This is not actually true. When ebay suspect there is a fraud they suspend the account, then make the investigation and and when they finish it they can reinstate the accoutn. I know as it happened to me too once in the past. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Randy Mils [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:08:27 -0700 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV class=RTE PNice Work Mike./P PYour suspicions were proven to be correct. It does not matter what excuse Matteo uses to defend himself. The fact is Ebay would not have suspended him unless the evidence was 100% clear./P PWe all can be sure now who the TRUE liar is and always has been./P PRandyBRBR/P/DIV DIV/DIVFrom: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVSubject: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo DIV/DIVDate: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:22:38 -0700 DIV/DIV DIV/DIVLunarmeteorite AND MCOMEMETEORITE are BOTH already kicked off, that was fast, it seems that Ebay can move now when fraud is proven. DIV/DIVSEE ya Matteo How does it feel to lose several years of feedback for being an a-hole? DIV/DIVcheck ebay, click on search by bidder and try Lunarmeteorite or Mcomemeteorite, both are now no longer registered users. DIV/DIVMichael Farmer DIV/DIV DIV/DIVAnyone doubt that Matteo is a liar anymore? DIV/DIV__ DIV/DIVMeteorite-list mailing list DIV/DIV[EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list DIV/DIV/divbr clear=allhr a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2743??PS=47575;MSN Movies - Trailers, showtimes, DVD's, and the latest news from Hollywood!/a /html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay pre-Tucson auction. Free shipping to USA
Hi Our ebay pre-Tucson auction is on-line. Free shipping if you pick up your specimens from our room or if you want us to send the items you won from the show to any place in the USA. Check our listings at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteorites.com or just look for seller meteorites.com on www.ebay.com Of course either you win or not any specimens it will be great to see you there. meteorites.com Tucson show: Vagabond Plaza Room 180 1601 N. Oracle rd we'll be open from Jan 30 to Feb 8 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny
Hi The actual price per gram is about $5000/g As I told in when we began to sell it, only a small part of the 16kg will be available for collectors and its already sold out. You can see pieces for sale at Michael Bood and Matt Morgan web pages. Expect the price to go up in the future. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:03:44 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny Hello all- Can anyone with any D'orbigny for sale get back to me with a price per gram. I have only spotted a couple web sites listing it and I was amazed at the swing in price. Just want to weed out the dead links and gain some idea of what it is really worth these days. Thanks in advance and happy holidays, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Collecting Habits
Hi I have different collecting areas. One is a systematic. I try to have different types. This include varieties (i.e in diogenites a green like Tatahouine and a white like Bilanga). On this ones I prefer falls but a rare find is OK too. A second one is a private collection which includes specimens from my country (Argentina), and falls/finds related with my birthday. Of course this make some pieces to be in 2 or 3 areas, like Acapulco which is in the systematic collection but also fall in my 13th birthday. In the two above I prefer end-pieces, if possible with crusted back. A third one is meteorites with history. Examples are Morasko (find when digging in a war), Oued-el-hadjar (broken in a wedding), Winona (found in stone cist), car smashers, killers, and of course the typical historical ones like Ensisheim, L'Aigle, Siena (this one still missing in my collection), etc Finally the odd collection: I like meteorites with natural holes. I have A nice Sikhote-Aline (like many collectors have) but also a Nantan, a Henbury, a Nuevo mercurio individual (from King collection)... and a Moldavite! If you have a different one for trade let me know. (I don't collect not natural holes like the iron slices with holes made by missing troilite inclusion). Eduardo - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: 10/20/2003 6:45:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Collecting Habits Hello Everyone, I have been thinking of the different ways to collect meteorites (e.g., type, class, location, etc.) and I was wondering if anyone would care to describe their collecting specialties or subspecialties. The reason I ask is because I have gotten interested in a sort of unusual specialty area - the find or fall consisting of a single specimen. TKW is not an issue as it would be paired with no other specimen. An image comes to my mind of a single, lonely meteorite, a common chondrite, out on the plains of the midwest US (for example) sitting there for hundreds if not thousands of years, just waiting to be found by anyone. Maybe it was looked and wondered about scores of times by many a passerby or maybe just ignored. Anyone else have this interest? I would be interested in hearing about others collecting interests. Best wishes, -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com Walter Branch, Ph.D. Branch Meteorites PO Box 60492 Savannah, GA 31420 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: ebay auctions ending soon
Hi Over 40 auctions ending in 4-5 hours. Most of them started at $1 with no reserve. Lots of bargains ! Don't miss the oportunity of getting them. follow this link: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=meteorites.com or search for user meteorites.com on www.ebay.com www.meteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
