[meteorite-list] (NWA 4884)Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October3, 2008
Hi Jerry and List, Jerry wrote in regards to the October 3rd Picture of the Day: Greg, what a special find (NWA 4884 Lunar). Thanks Jerry. For such a small stone at just 42 grams, it does pack an impressive display, and the fact that it is unpaired is cool too! It was found nearly two years ago! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jerry Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October3, 2008 Greg, what a special find. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 5:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - October 3, 2008 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/October_3_2008.html **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Glorieta - Best Offers - AD
Dear List Members, I recently acquired several Glorieta Pallasite and Siderite individuals from the finders and would like to share the photos, and/or consider any 'best' offers. They are pretty difficult to photograph and are much better in person. Many still display the fresh blue-steel color of the fusion crust. Here are the details, enjoy! Pallasites: 58g - Large crystal with some flow lines and lip over. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc1.jpg 37.1g - Several crystals and most original crust. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc3.jpg 31.8g - Many crystals and lots of crust. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc5.jpg 22.5g - Many crystals. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc7.jpg 13.7g - Gorgeous Piece (currently on eBay) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=350104442553 13.5g - ORIENTED - Small crystal, covered in flow lines, melt spatter and excellent lip over. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00017.jpg 10.9g - ORIENTED - Several crystals, flow lines, crust, much better in person! http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc9.jpg 8.6 - Nice crystal, some nice flow lines and crust. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00011.jpg 8.3g - A few crystals and flow lines. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00013.jpg 6.2g - Small crystal, can see flat plane where larger crystal popped out, most likely during flight. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00015.jpg Siderites: 26.7g - Nice overall shape. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00019.jpg 26.6g - Nice shape (unsold eBay auction) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEUSX:ITitem=170265930378 16.2g - Good for any collection. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00021.jpg 14.2g - ORIENTED Spicule - Excellent piece with flow lines, lip over, original crust. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00023.jpg 13g - Lots of flow lines, some lip over and crust. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00025.jpg 8.4g - ORIENTED - Some areas of excellent flow lines, lip over. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/glorieta10-2-2008/dsc00027.jpg I hope you enjoy the photos! Best regards, Greg P.S. I loaded some excellent eBay auctions last night! Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay Daze - Great Deals - AD
Dear List Members, After a quick 5-day meteorite data gathering/hunting trip to a couple locals in New Mexico, I see several of my weekly eBay items are still at just 99 cents. These end today (Wednesday, October 1st) under my seller name, NaturesVault. There may only be a small amount of items, but they have a big impact :-) All 18 items can be seen here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Here is a nice little Glorieta siderite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=170265930378 .. a beautifully etched Muonionalusta slice at just 10 cents per gram!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=170265931612 ... how about a 60% fusion crusted Martian Individual currently at $47.00 per gram!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=170265926610 Be sure to check out the lunars, Martians, super are achondrites and the other goodies going so cheap, you'll be dazed and dazzled! Best regards and Thank You for bidding, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Great Values - eBay Ending - AD
Dear List Members, Looks like there will be some excellent deals to be had on eBay this week under my seller name, NaturesVault. I have 30 auctions ending tomorrow, most are still at just 99 cents. All auctions can be seen here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault You will find Lunar, Martian, Angrites, Brachinites and other rarities just waiting for someone to win a great value. There is even a complete slice of Muonionalusta at a steal of a deal. Thank you for the bids, and Good Luck winning the one you are after! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fantastic Auctions Ending - AD
Dear List Members, I would like to take this opportunity to let all who are interested in fantastic meteorites know that I have nearly 200 eBay auctions ending tomorrow (Wednesday, September 17th) throughout the day and night. Many are the last that are available of each. All can be seen by clicking this link to seller, NaturesVault: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Here is the Quick List in order offered on eBay: NWA 1878 Mesosiderite (Only 5 Slices) NWA 1879 Mesosiderite Slices (Last 9 Specimens) NWA 2932 Mesosiderite Slices (Excellent!) Chergach H5-IMB (MUST SEE) NWA 2952 CK4 (Last 8 Slices) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Interesting Nice) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (One of the Freshest Saharan Martians!) NWA 4529 Lodranite (ONLY 2 Specimens Left!) NWA 4587 (The LARGEST of the rare NWA 011 Pairings) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Awe-Inspiring, a Dazzler!) NWA 4799 Authentic Aubrite (Check This One Out) NWA 4800 CK5 (Just 8 Pieces Left) NWA 4801 Angrite (Super Fresh!! Largest pieces) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Lunar-like!) NWA 4934 Brecciated Howardite (GORGEOUS, Only 4 Slices Available) NWA 869 L4-6 Individuals and 1-kilo Lots (Excellent Stones) Unclassified Saharan 2-kilo Lots (As Cheap as They Get!) If you are interested in any of these, this may be your last chance to acquire it for your collection. Good Luck!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Many Goodies Offered - AD
Dear List Members, In an attempt to get caught up on offering new meteorites, I have loaded about 200 eBay auctions, most with Buy it Now under my seller name, NaturesVault. Some have been offered earlier this year or last, but for any newer List members, and those who have not seen these before, you are in for a treat! There are Planetary, Achondrites, Chondrites, Individuals Meso's and 1 or 2-kilo Lots available, something for every collector! All can be seen by clicking here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Here is the Quick List in order offered on eBay: NWA 1878 Mesosiderite (Large Areas of Metal) NWA 1879 Mesosiderite Slices (Great Preparation) NWA 2932 Mesosiderite Slices (Excellent!) Chergach H5-IMB (A Variety of slices and Great Individuals) NWA 2952 CK4 (All that is Available) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Interesting Nice) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (One of the Freshest Saharan Martians!) NWA 4529 Lodranite (Very Low TKW, All that is Available) NWA 4587 (The LARGEST of the rare NWA 011 Pairings!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Awe-Inspiring, a Dazzler!) NWA 4799 Authentic Aubrite (A Beauty!!) NWA 4800 CK5 (All there is) NWA 4801 Angrite (Super Fresh!! Largest pieces) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Lunar-like!) NWA 4934 Brecciated Howardite (GORGEOUS, loaded the Last few Pieces) NWA 869 L4-6 Individuals and 1-kilo Lots (Excellent Stones) Unclassified Saharan 2-kilo Lots (As Cheap as They Get!) Have fun checking out the photos, and if you are bidding, Good Luck and Thank You!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meso's Muonio Slices - AD
/dsc00038.jpg 65.2g end cut http://www.lunarrock.com/muonionalusta/dsc00039.jpg As with all meteorites, these are difficult to photograph so they look MUCH better in person!!! SHIPPING: I will quote postage on a case-by-case basis, depending on where they are shipped. Thank you looking and/or collecting some of these beauties from me, I appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Peep Show - Tit for Tat
Dear List Members, To go along with today's Picture of The Day, graciously hosted by Michael Johnson, here are some additional photos of the younger, healthier sister to the Venus Stone: Tit for Tat The younger, healthier sister squaring off to the Venus Stone (replica shown). A 2413-gram Saharan chondrite displaying subtle, yet stunning flow lines cresting over to the back side of this remarkable center-piece. http://www.lunarrock.com/6-25-2008/tit-4-tat.jpg Side View http://www.lunarrock.com/6-25-2008/dsc00010.jpg Left View http://www.lunarrock.com/6-25-2008/dsc7.jpg Right View http://www.lunarrock.com/6-25-2008/dsc00012.jpg I think the younger sister needs a name. Pamela has been suggested, any other names you may have in mind? Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chergach H5-IMB 2 Lithologies Photos
Dear List Members, I just returned from Morocco and Western Sahara a couple days ago. Of the few meteorites worth getting, I did get a single 362-gram Chergach H5-IMB stone which I cut and polished yesterday - AMAZING!! Here are some links to photos which show a distinct, shocked vein dividing the two different lithologies of H5 and Impact Melt Breccia (IMB). 39.9g cs http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc1.jpg 38.9g cs http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc2.jpg 38.3g cs http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc3.jpg 31.3g ec http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc4.jpg 26.1g ps http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc5.jpg 16.9g ps (Breccia lith. with part of shock vein) http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc6.jpg 14.6g ps http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc7.jpg 5.2g ps (H5 lith. with shock vein) http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc8.jpg 2.2g ps http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc9.jpg 1.6g ps http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc00010.jpg 92.1g Complete with 99% crust http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc00011.jpg 64.1g Complete with 100% crust http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/dsc00012.jpg cs-Complete Slice ps-Part Slice ec-End Cut I also got two excellent complete stones with fantastic fusion crust, one with a 15mm gunblue metal blob with flowlines protruding from the black crust. These weigh between 400-500 grams each. I traded my large scale while in Morocco so I can not get the exact weights until later this week. Here are the photos of these two beauties: Chergach #1 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/chergach1.jpg Chergach #2 http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/6-23/chergach2.jpg Let me know what you think! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????
Hi Tom, Pete and List, Tom has been doing a fantastic job with his studies and I thank him for his tireless efforts and for sharing with us. Before the realization that NWA 2828, Al Haggounia and the other pairings to NWA 2828 were found to be an EL3 and NOT an aubrite, I spent many trips to Morocco buying up the Blue material. Needless to say, I have several kilos of the Blue EL3 material, one of the lucky first-in buyers, not price-wise but material-wise :-) Here are some additional photo links of NWA 2828 Blue, most have seen these as they are the ones I have with my eBay description of NWA 2828. Photograph of a 24.9g NWA 2828 slice with rhyolite pebble (image 1): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg Photograph of magnified radial pyroxene chondrule (image 2): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828chondrule.jpg Photograph of magnified whitish enstatite-rich clast (image 3): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828clast.jpg Photograph of a 14.3g complete slice of NWA 2828 (image 4): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828slice.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION?? Hi Pete, IF you are looking for an affordable sample check out Al Hagounia. It matches your criteria and it is an Enstatite. NAU recently posted a paper on their web site that nicely covers what it is, the terrestrial alteration it has undergone, and it's location in the layers of sediment. http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Al_Haggounia.html The stuff is ugly on the outside but I have cut quite a few slices and it is interesting when cut. It takes a polish quite nicely. When you happen to cut into a large radial chondrule it is beautiful. A sea of fine grain brown with only one big fan shaped chondrule. Those polished examples make a nice display. Some times you get a Blue one! The Blue phase, NWA 2828 is an example, can be found mixed with the brown in the same slice. That is not common so it is fun when you find one. The best part is it is cheap because there is plenty to go around. Tom Phillips In a message dated 5/4/2008 1:09:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: List, Maybe this has been asked and answered (sounds like a lawer thing) and maybe not. Since I am relatively new to collecting and certainly not an Expert in any area of meteorite study (with the exception of magnetisum (from the sky magnetic VS made a magnet by processes here on earth). Here's my question: A geologist digs in an area that he thinks there will be the likelyhood of finding a fossil. Maybe he gets lucky and maybe finds bunches of them. Has anyone ever found a meteorite buried deep in a layer that is thousands or even millions of years old? Years ago--long before I became an obsessed, crazed, meteorite addict, while teaching a series on earthquakes, I had found a video of a scientist standing with one foot on the Pacific plate and the other foot on the North Americian plate, ie astraddle of the San Andreas fault line. In back of him was a small vertical clift of maybe 10 feet and you could plainly see the shift (approx 15 inches) in the layers of sediment. Now I've got to thinking (some say this is my problem--Thinking) that these meteorites have a tremendous terestial age. If the earth is bombarded by these meteorites throughout the aeons, then there should be a record, ie evidence in the form of buried craters (see the Odessa,Tx crater) -- Approx 100 to 110 feet deep that has been filled in till it is only 25 to 30 feet deep now due to wind blown sand (mostly). I've got a pamplet of Occasional Papers of the Strecker Museum from Baylor University showing a neat cross section of the Odessa Crater. How much investigation into the cross section structure of the sediment layers, looking for evidence of craters has been done? Has there ever been an accidential discovery of a buried crater in a clift side. Lots of these erroded mesa exist out west. Maybe evidence is visable there. Surely Valeria is not the only animal killer out there. Maybe another animal drilled by a passing meteorite with the coresponding meteorite near the body. Maybe there's no body but the meteorite is still there buried in the deeper layers of sediment. Maybe tektites are the only surviving evidence. In a nutshell, has there ever been a meteorite found at a depth of sediment that is plainly very old? Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????
Hi Tom, You asked, What did you think when the first blue meteorite (NWA 2828) was cut? I thought, What the heck is this stuff?! I had first purchased a very small amount of this material, cut it, and thought it was the strangest meteorite I had seen to date, if it was a meteorite at all. I then sent the type sample to the University of Washington for analysis, and if a meteorite, classification. The original 20 gram sample did not have any of the chondrules so it was classified as an aubrite. During the next 6-12 months of going to Morocco (maybe 5 or 6 trips), I kept my eye out for more of this material. I thought I had a coup on this new aubrite so I traveled to Morocco more often during that time and bought up as much as I could find. It wasn't until I started to cut and polish this material to start to offer it to collectors that the first chondrules started to present themselves. They were not the typical chondrules like in OC's so I sent additional type samples with these features to the scientists (eventually more samples and 80 grams later). Lab results..., Chondrules! DAMN, was the next thought. Thank goodness I had not offered any of this material publicly as I would have had a real problem on my hands. :-/ So many months had passed by that the first abstract stating the aubrite classification had made itself to the Internet and it was from this information that another overseas dealer who had some of this material had it up on his web site (without sending in a type sample) and started selling it as NWA 2828. I thought How embarrassing for this person who did not want to send in his own sample and get his own NWA number! (this time it bit him in the butt!). Eventually, and over time and with many people's help, the riddle of NWA 2828 (and its pairings 'Al Haggounia', and other NWA numbers) were revealed. It is still a very interesting meteorite with a great story behind its discovery and eventual classification. Now if we could just get Dr. Jambon to acknowledge the hard work of his peers Proving once and for all, Al Haggounia (the pairing to NWA 2828) is NOT AN AUBRITE!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION?? Thanks Greg, Beautiful photos! Every one interested in this material should check them out. I like the slice of Blue with an attached rhyolite pebble. http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg It is one thing to look at this material now with the knowledge of what it is. I can only call it astonishment when you cut into one like is shown in Greg's image. But Greg, what was it like to cut into a blue meteorite when it was new! I'm sure you had ideas of what it was but this was before any classification/analysis had been done. What did you think when the first blue meteorite was cut? Tom Phillips In a message dated 5/4/2008 9:14:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Tom, Pete and List, Tom has been doing a fantastic job with his studies and I thank him for his tireless efforts and for sharing with us. Before the realization that NWA 2828, Al Haggounia and the other pairings to NWA 2828 were found to be an EL3 and NOT an aubrite, I spent many trips to Morocco buying up the Blue material. Needless to say, I have several kilos of the Blue EL3 material, one of the lucky first-in buyers, not price-wise but material-wise :-) Here are some additional photo links of NWA 2828 Blue, most have seen these as they are the ones I have with my eBay description of NWA 2828. Photograph of a 24.9g NWA 2828 slice with rhyolite pebble (image 1): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg Photograph of magnified radial pyroxene chondrule (image 2): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828chondrule.jpg Photograph of magnified whitish enstatite-rich clast (image 3): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828clast.jpg Photograph of a 14.3g complete slice of NWA 2828 (image 4): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828slice.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION?? Hi Pete, IF you are looking for an affordable sample check out Al Hagounia. It matches your criteria
[meteorite-list] GimmiCK Sale - Kind of Gimmick Joke
Hi Steve and GimmiCK Lovers, How about this for a real GimmiCK sale: I had the last few pieces of my new CK5 (NWA 4800) auctions end yesterday on eBay, some went unsold. I propose that anyone who wants one of the last CK slices for opening price, I will throw in the Gimmi for FREE!!! How's that for a true GimmiCK?! ;-) Best regards and Have a Great Day! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay sale tonight. In a message dated 5/1/2008 12:48:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello again, it is that day of the week, EBAY day! Ebay Day??? Gimmick http://www.meteorite.com/farmer/ See the link above linking all of my auctions from both of my ebay usernames. Two Ebay Names??? Gimmick I have some wonderful pieces ending this week, many goodies, take a look, many are still at one cent. Wonderful, many goodies, take a look, many are still at one cent Gimmick, gimmick, gimmick, gimmick! Michael Farmer ;-) Steve Arnold #1 P.S. For those of you that are humor-challenged, that ;-) wink at the end, indicated a joke. This email was a joke. See, Mike called my desire to sell on Ebay as a gimmick the other day, so I thought it would be funny to respond to his email with the same thing, although as you can see I tastefully left out the personal bent in my post. If people fail to find the humor in this, I will next time put WARNING JOKE INCLOSED in the subject line so you will all be forewarned. But I am hoping most of you will have seen the humor in the post without even the need for this lengthy postscript. **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on??
Ruben wrote: Next thing you know Notkin and Haag are gonna square off in the octagon! Whats next? I say we make it a cage fight and throw in some raw chicken and a shot of Tequila, maybe a starving pitbull for good measure! Sounds like the good old popcorn days I think we all know that all of this is nothing, just some good old fashioned joking and jabbing. At least that is how I perceived it. OK, back to finishing the chores so I can throw that raw chicken on the grill! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on?? Geezz! I'm slow, so maybe I missed something but Did we run out of reasons to stop bashing Steve Arnold (Chicago)? Or Bob Evans or other such screw-ups? I hate to see Farmer, Arnold#1 and Paul Harris in the cross hairs of each others scopes... First, because they are very knowledgeable and highly respected. Second, cause they are my Friends. Next thing you know Notkin and Haag are gonna square off in the octagon! Whats next? No More Dudes! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GimmiCK Sale - WARNING Joke enclosed!!!!!!!!!
Hi Steve and all Gimmickers, I think we need to have a contest on this List, heck both Lists so we can receive them twice, to see who can come up with the best, silliest, most-lame, or otherwise Gimmick to offer, sell, trade, parade, give, show, whatever... I say we start this new contest on May 6th and let it run for a couple weeks (I will be away from a computer during this time!! ;-) another 'gimmick' joke, he he. As far as my GimmiCK sale, it was just a joke, albeit a clever one if I don't say so myself ;-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Re:GimmiCK Sale - WARNING Joke enclosed! *WARNING, JOKE BELOW ***ATTENTION: JOKE COMING*** HEAR YE, HEAR YE, HEAR YE: JOKETH APPROACHETH This is test of the Humorous Broadcast Network. This is a joke, and only a joke. If this were a real insult, you would have been informed by private email, and not via the M-list. Again, this is only a joke... Greg, It sounds like your GimmiCK offer (below) is just a gimmick to me! ;-) Did EVERYONE notice the wink above??? This was a sign that I was only joking. Of course I don't think Greg's GimmiCK offer is a gimmick. I was only trying to use humor. In advance, I apologize to anyone and everyone that I may have offended, especially but not limited to Greg Hupe. This concludes this test of the Humorous Broadcast Network, we will now return you to the serious posts on the M-list. Thank You, Steve #1 In a message dated 5/1/2008 2:27:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Steve and GimmiCK Lovers, How about this for a real GimmiCK sale: I had the last few pieces of my new CK5 (NWA 4800) auctions end yesterday on eBay, some went unsold. I propose that anyone who wants one of the last CK slices for opening price, I will throw in the Gimmi for FREE!!! How's that for a true GimmiCK?! ;-) Best regards and Have a Great Day! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trade offer, Hoodia Gordonii plants for meteorites or meteorite stuff.
Hi Sonny, Outstanding! I have a few gallons of meteorite cutting dust we can plant... those plants in and see what kind of crazy morph they grow into. Maybe one of those flesh eating plants from that movieoh crud, can't remember the name but Rick Moranis was in it, Feed me Seymore, feed me!! Maybe then we can feed those flesh eating birds that befriended Robert down south! Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trade offer,Hoodia Gordonii plants for meteorites or meteorite stuff. Hi All, I have a few Hoodia Gordonii plants that I would like to trade for meteorites or meteorite stuff. The plants are in 1 and 5 gallon pots. They would be shipped bare root or you could pick up. email off list for pictures. Or I could do a reverse sale. Just teasing. Sonny __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah
The science is in ruin! - Original Message - From: Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah What? He doesn`t sell on ebay? It is lost to science, then. - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=8245978nav=menu554_2_3 Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah Associated Press - April 29, 2008 6:25 PM ET SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A man who found a meteorite in Utah is giving it to the public. The 18-pound Gunlock Meteorite is the size of a bowling ball and now on display at the Utah Department of Natural Resources in Salt Lake City. Don Adair of Boise, Idaho, found it near Gunlock, a southern Utah town, in 1982. He says the black color made it stand out like a big bandage on a sore thumb. He sawed it in half and gave a portion to the American Museum of Natural History in New York. Adair recently decided to give the other half to Utah. Utah officials believe it could be billions of years old. Meteorites originate from comets, asteroids or other planets. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah
The science is in ruin! - Original Message - From: Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah What? He doesn`t sell on ebay? It is lost to science, then. - Original Message - From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=8245978nav=menu554_2_3 Idaho man gives meteorite to Utah Associated Press - April 29, 2008 6:25 PM ET SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - A man who found a meteorite in Utah is giving it to the public. The 18-pound Gunlock Meteorite is the size of a bowling ball and now on display at the Utah Department of Natural Resources in Salt Lake City. Don Adair of Boise, Idaho, found it near Gunlock, a southern Utah town, in 1982. He says the black color made it stand out like a big bandage on a sore thumb. He sawed it in half and gave a portion to the American Museum of Natural History in New York. Adair recently decided to give the other half to Utah. Utah officials believe it could be billions of years old. Meteorites originate from comets, asteroids or other planets. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on??
HI Bob, No. No!! The cage fight is for Notkin and Haag. I think they will be playing some rock-n-roll to get the juice flowing!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What the heck is going on?? Still here Ruben, Do you have something to say about me ? or just general BS ? I cant wait to see you and all my friends in Tucson 09. -- Original message -- From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geezz! I'm slow, so maybe I missed something but Did we run out of reasons to stop bashing Steve Arnold (Chicago)? Or Bob Evans or other such screw-ups? I hate to see Farmer, Arnold#1 and Paul Harris in the cross hairs of each others scopes... First, because they are very knowledgeable and highly respected. Second, cause they are my Friends. Next thing you know Notkin and Haag are gonna square off in the octagon! Whats next? No More Dudes! Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Excellent Auctions Ending Today - AD
Dear List Members, Starting in about four hours (12:00 noon EST) my auctions for the Berduc, Argentina newspapers will end, and then starting at about 4:30 PM EST the rest of my auctions will start to end. These include THREE NEW meteorites; CK5 (NWA 4800, just 12 specimens available), Lodranite (NWA 4529, only 11 left) and Brecciated Howardite (NWA 4934, last 5 slices available). Also up for grabs are several 1-kilo Individual lots of NWA 869 and 2-kilo lots of Unclassified Saharan meteorites. Get 'em while they're hot!! Thank you for bidding and/or looking!! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2nd Try - Excellent Auctions Ending Today - AD
Dear List Members, Sorry for the double post, here is the post with link to auctions. Starting in about four hours (12:00 noon EST) my auctions for the Berduc, Argentina newspapers will end, and then starting at about 4:30 PM EST the rest of my auctions will start to end. These include THREE NEW meteorites; CK5 (NWA 4800, just 12 specimens available), Lodranite (NWA 4529, only 11 left) and Brecciated Howardite (NWA 4934, last 5 slices available). Also up for grabs are several 1-kilo Individual lots of NWA 869 and 2-kilo lots of Unclassified Saharan meteorites. To see all that are available, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Get 'em while they're hot!! Thank you for bidding and/or looking!! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW CK5, LOD, HOW - AD
Dear List Members, I would like to introduce a new CK5, NWA 4800, I loaded on eBay on Wednesday. I put all that is available up. Here are other new meteorite auctions that are ending this Wednesday in order as listed: 1) Berduc, Argentina meteorite fall newspapers (2 different dates and still at JUST 99 cents!) 2) NWA 4800 CK5 (only 14 specimens left) 3) NWA 4529 Lodranite (Unpaired with just 11 specimens left) 4) NWA 4934 Brecciated Howardite (Beautiful material and only 5 slices left) 5) NWA 869 1-kilo lots (nice individuals in all lots) 6) 2-kilo Unclassified lots (never know what you will find) 7) NWA 869 Whole Individuals (great selection) To see all of these, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Best regards and Thank You for bidding!! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Berduc for Sale - (newspapers)
Dear List Members, I have up for auction two newspapers covering the Berduc, Argentina meteorite which fell April 6, 2008. Each one comes with a FREE ROCK and an Argentina coin. This is a must have for collectors who like meteorite fall documentation!! Here are the auction links: Auction #1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170213138173ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Auction #2 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170213139214ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Berduc, Argentina Fall Expedition
Hi Robert, Thanks for the congrats, it was a thrill to chase this one down. It had its pitfalls; venomous snakes, heat, harpoon-like thorns, closed airport due to out of control brush fires, flesh-eating birds, etc. but I wouldn't have wanted easy street! With the lack of comments, I was beginning to think everyone sold their computers to pay their taxes! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Berduc, Argentina Fall Expedition Hi Greg, Mike, and Robert, Thanks so much for the post, guys. Fantastic photos, and what fun those finds must have been! Thanks for letting the rest of us share in (albeit vicariously) the thrill of the hunt. Congrats to all of you. At least those beautiful stones were spared from just weathering away. Best wishes, Robert Woolard Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Italian Customs Policy
Dear List Members, Italian customs has adopted a new policy for accepting foreign packages. They no longer will accept parcels unless a detailed description on Customs Form CN 22 (the small green form) is written in French or in another language, comprehensible in the destination country. Here is a link to the form letter I received with a returned package. The contents, including meteorite ID card were inspected and all returned intact. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/italy-customs-form/italycustomsform.jpg Due to this new Italian policy, I will no longer ship to Italy. I will cancel any eBay bids from Italian bidders. I do not speak French or Italian, and certainly can not write in those languages. If we have to write a detailed listing of the contents instead on requested Mineral Sample For Study then this opens the doors even wider for customs thefts. I apologize to my Italian customers for this new forced policy. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Italian Customs Policy
Hello Matteo, I include the customs form (CN 22, small green one) on every package I ship to any foreign country whether it needs it or not. This is not the problem I am having since I include the form. The new problem is Italian customs and their new policy (new to me anyway). It is pretty sad that this has happened. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Italian Customs Policy this is totaly ridiculus, I receive every day packs from USA and all is arrive with any problems. The Roserio custom is well know here in Italy why is full of idiots works in this custom and they lost many packs or the ship this after 1-2 months to the buyer after have control what is present in the pack. Every pack arrive to me have the green label form, if you not put this is normaly this return back, why the custom no accept packs where is not write what is present into. Put the label and the problems endeasy. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] New Italian Customs Policy Data : Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:13:02 -0400 Dear List Members, Italian customs has adopted a new policy for accepting foreign packages. They no longer will accept parcels unless a detailed description on Customs Form CN 22 (the small green form) is written in French or in another language, comprehensible in the destination country. Here is a link to the form letter I received with a returned package. The contents, including meteorite ID card were inspected and all returned intact. http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/italy-customs-form/italycustomsform.jpg Due to this new Italian policy, I will no longer ship to Italy. I will cancel any eBay bids from Italian bidders. I do not speak French or Italian, and certainly can not write in those languages. If we have to write a detailed listing of the contents instead on requested Mineral Sample For Study then this opens the doors even wider for customs thefts. I apologize to my Italian customers for this new forced policy. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Berduc, Argentina Fall Expedition
Dear List Members, Mike Farmer asked me to forward his email to the List in regards to our recent expedition to investigate the Berduc, Argentina meteorite fall. At the bottom are links to his web pages he built describing it. Enjoy! Greg Hello list members Robert Ward, Greg Hupe and I have just returned from an expedition to Entre-Rios Argentina, where we investigated the Berduc meteorite fall. We were there for a week, studying the strewnfield, searching for meteorites, teaching the locals about strewnfields etc. We endured eating pig intestines, heat, thorns stabbing every part of the body you can imagine and snakes! Did I mention the snakes? We saw them every day, lots of them, just google the Yarara snake, and learn about the most common inhabitant of the Berduc meteorite strewnfield. If you are scared of snakes, this was not the trip for you. If you are tired of the crappy newspaper accounts of the fall, then check out the webpages I put together with information and photos from our trip. http://meteoriteguy.com/berducfall1.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/berducfall2.htm Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Lodranite Howardite - AD
Dear List Members, Last week I announced two NEW UNPAIRED meteorites. These eBay auctions will end tomorrow (Wednesday, April 9th), all under seller, NaturesVault. The first is NWA 4529, a low TKW Lodranite (just 60 grams!!) and second is NWA 4934, a gorgeous Brecciated Howardite (Just 307g TKW). The Main Masses and some of the largest pieces are already in others' collections. There are currently only 17 specimens available of NWA 4529 Lodranite and only 10 pieces of NWA 4934 Howardite. To see all of these, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault If you are interested in any of these, do not hesitate because once they are gone, there is no more to be had! Best regards and Thanks for bidding! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Dear Michael and List, Michael wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Hi Mark, Mark wrote: We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) We definately appreciate it!! Thank you! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) Greg Hupe wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day - April 6, 2008: NWA 2651 Ureilite
Hello Jeff, Bernd and List, Here are two photos of an excellent NWA 2624 slice displaying these large and awesome phenocrysts: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2624/nwa2624a.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2624/nwa2624b.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day - April 6,2008: NWA 2651 Ureilite Hi Bernd and all. This pic of the day prompted me to take a look at my NWA 2624 slice again. Stunning meteorite! http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2624.html Does anyone know if any other Ureilites have been found with pyroxene megacrysts like this? Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day - April 6,2008: NWA 2651 Ureilite http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_6_2008.html Hello John, Anne and List, Beautiful thin section picture! Gorgeous colors! NWA 2651 is described as being similar to NWA 2624, which I can definitely confirm. When the Hupés offered this ureilite with its large and translucent pigeonite grains, I found them so fascinating that I decided to buy three slices (3 + 3.8 + 4 grams) and I am glad I did! Of course, after receiving my slices, I immediately put one of these under my microscope and took a photo of the large, limpid gem-like pigeonites at 16x magnification and was surprised when I detected what is described as olivine is highly fractured with closely spaced, subparallel fractures. These subparallel, grayish stripes are easily recognizable and even those saw-tooth grain edges are readily visible at 16x. Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW Lodranite Howardite - AD
Dear List Members, Today I would like to introduce two NEW achondrites. 1) The first is an unpaired Lodranite, NWA 4529 with a very low TKW of just 60 grams! The scientists worked on this one for nearly two years before confirming its classification. After placing the Main Mass and the largest slices in prominent collections, there is ONLY 8.2 grams available to collectors. After these last 19 specimens currently on eBay are gone, there is absolutely no more, so if you are interested in a NEW and UNPAIRED Lodranite, you do not want to wait! 2) The second offering for today is an awesome Brecciated Howardite, NWA 4934. This, too, has a low TKW of 307 grams. I have loaded all that is available of these on eBay under my seller name, NaturesVault, and most have the Buy it Now option. In addition to these, you will find a huge selection of auctions, many still at just 99 cents!! Here are the direct links to today's special announcements which end April 9th: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1catref=C6rd=0frpp=50satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080309dfts=2dfe=20080309dfte=12saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1%26fsoo%3D1 Here is a link to all auctions ending today, most started at just 99 cents. Also ending today are the last specimens of Brecciated Lodranite NWA 4478, a great selection of AUTHENTIC Brecciated Aubrite NWA 4799 and WHOLESALE lots of other interesting material: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvaultQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 To see all current auctions including everything mentioned above, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Thank you for bidding!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay Member Threats SCAM??
Dear List Members, I have received threat emails from a Chinese eBayer (or at least his name) and wanted to see if others are receiving these as well. I talked to my eBay rep and he said this sounds like it may be a type of scam where they harass you in order to get a response from you to get information. He said he has not heard of one this bad and threatening before. He asked if I could see if other meteorite eBayers have received the threats so he could open this case. Here is the threat from today from gem*rock: good morning, it looks you works hard, it looks eBay is also important to you like us, just a remind, after we stop to sell these meteorites which you called suspect, if you still do harm to our business with our clients, you will meet the worse problem, and if you do too absolutely to make us out of business/eBay, only 50$ is enough to make you and yours. I will stop to sell them, for us and for other sellers, regards, gem*rock I did not do a direct reply to this email as I did not know yet if it truly originated from eBay and that is what we are trying to establish here. I guess eBay can look up the email headers to see if they went through eBay, and if so, boot these scumbags! Thank you for your help. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market trends - a critical note
Hi Sterling, Does something like this come to mind: http://www.lunarrock.com/BobHaag/BobHaag.jpg Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market trends - a critical note Al wrote: ...meteorites by the truck load. (How much would it cost to go to an asteroid and harvest a truck load, or tons and bring it back, it may be that meteorites are a whole lot cheaper than we think!! For any object smaller than a kilometer or so, it's likely more cost effective just to move the asteroid to Earth-Moon space, in orbit around one or the other. I suspect lunar orbit would be the preferred option as folks get nervous about asteroids headed toward Earth. Of course, it'll be a mining claim, but souvenirs are always good publicity. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market trends - a critical note Hi Doug and all, Doug, I didn't know that I was giving Darren and Walter moral criticism. You seem to be speaking or interpreting for me in a way that my message wasn't meant. I don't blame Darren for wanting cheap specimens and he is certainly entitled to wish for what he wants but I see it as a unrealistic and it is at this time. I simply disagree with with him. The _market_ determines the price along with many factors. Posting messages here on the list it seems someone will always twist things around in ways you never thought they could. Seems like you have to think of every scenario and qualify your post with far more words than you should, so as not to be misunderstood. Is that even possible?? It is also a part of the fun. I am very glad that the NWA's came along and I have many fine examples in my own collection. Any specimen that is found and documented is a good thing and provides new interesting specimens. Because of these specimens many people can collect nice pieces at very low prices. Trades brought about other historic specimens that hadn't been seen on the market for sometime. I am sure that some people want NWA's even cheaper than they can buy them in the past and now. I personally want everyone who desires to own a meteorite, the ability to own one and at little cost as possible. There are specimens that will always have more people wanting them, than there is material and the price of those will always be higher. Some people won't even spend a dollar at the shows I do to buy a meteorite and I personally think if they won't spend the money then they deserve none. Some exceptions are to the many kids I have given a space rocks to because they showed me a genuine interest and earned the specimen. I'll walk you through my thoughts on what I was trying to say. Darren, wants to be able to buy meteorites by the truck load. I compared that to my desire to be able to buy automobiles cheaper than they are now as an example. Nothing wrong with that in either respect, except I don't think either is realistic based on the efforts of car makers to make cars, materials, labor, parts, energy, buildings and all efforts to build the item and so forth. I may want the car of my desire for 10 cents on the dollar but because there will be millions of other people who will offer more than the 10 cents on the dollar, I don't have a chance to buy at that price. Because there are hundreds of others who will pay more for a meteorite means that Darren is going to have to wait a long time to buy meteorites by the truck load. (How much would it cost to go to an asteroid and harvest a truck load, or tons and bring it back, it may be that meteorites are a whole lot cheaper than we think!! Not to mention you get a truck load of virtually the same thing unless you did deep for more metamorphosed types or make multipal stops. Who would be paying for the asteroid collector's time effort and labor??) Meteorites are an investment. Just like a car is an investment in transportation. Most people buying them for what they represent and I doubt are worried too much about loosing a little or gaining a little. We are the current caretakers of these rocks which will/should outlast us (as long as someone doesn't atomize them) and will past into hands of others in the future. I think it would be real nice and realistic to see most of my time, effort and money out of what I own when it comes time to part with them. It use to be common that you could see about
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Garza Ending Auctions - AD
Dear List Members, Tomorrow, March 26th, is the 5-year anniversary of the Park Forest meteorite fall so I have loaded on eBay the best Garza Meteorite Impact Artifact kits that we have. Included are #1-5 of the 200 series, these five have the largest fragments from the Garza stone of the 200 kits, larger artifact pieces and nearly all of the 200 kits have already been sold. I saved the BEST FIVE for a special occasion, and figured five years was a good time! In addition to these, I loaded nine newspapers covering the Park Forest meteorite event from 2003 on a couple of 1-year Anniversary issues from 2004. All of these can be seen under my seller name, NaturesVault, or by clicking here to see these and all of the current auctions I have: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Later today I have 42 meteorite auctions ending, many still at just 99 cents! These include: * Lunars * Martians * Anomalous * Angrites * Brachinite * Brecciated Lodranite * Other Achondrites * Chondrites * NWA 3161 LL3.7 (several to choose from) * NWA 2952 CK4 (All that are available) Currently all of the material are at below cost values, so if you are in the market for an AWESOME BUY, check out what I have, you will not be disappointed!! Thank you for your continued support and bids, I appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Correction - Park Forest Garza Ending Auctions - AD
Dear List Members, Correction: In my Park Forest Garza... post, I stated Later today I have 42 auctions ending... This should read, Later TOMORROW (Wednesday, March 26th)... I apologize for my typo. Happy bidding! Greg Dear List Members, Tomorrow, March 26th, is the 5-year anniversary of the Park Forest meteorite fall so I have loaded on eBay the best Garza Meteorite Impact Artifact kits that we have. Included are #1-5 of the 200 series, these five have the largest fragments from the Garza stone of the 200 kits, larger artifact pieces and nearly all of the 200 kits have already been sold. I saved the BEST FIVE for a special occasion, and figured five years was a good time! In addition to these, I loaded nine newspapers covering the Park Forest meteorite event from 2003 on a couple of 1-year Anniversary issues from 2004. All of these can be seen under my seller name, NaturesVault, or by clicking here to see these and all of the current auctions I have: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Later today I have 42 meteorite auctions ending, many still at just 99 cents! These include: * Lunars * Martians * Anomalous * Angrites * Brachinite * Brecciated Lodranite * Other Achondrites * Chondrites * NWA 3161 LL3.7 (several to choose from) * NWA 2952 CK4 (All that are available) Currently all of the material are at below cost values, so if you are in the market for an AWESOME BUY, check out what I have, you will not be disappointed!! Thank you for your continued support and bids, I appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
Hi Ted, I was only the delivery boy, the cosmos glued (or should I say 'accreted') this cosmic masterpiece into existence! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI Greg - I have to agree with you after 30 years of CAI observations. (I really think that you glued those suckers on there). Ted On 3/23/08 8:50 AM, Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom0 00301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
Hi Larry, I agree! Those are a couple of examples one regrets parting with afterwards, but then again, if I were to hog up all that I have found, purchased or traded for over the years, I wouldn't get the joy for sharing. To me, that is just as important as collecting! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI Greg, List, This is a perfect example of the difference between people like me who sell the occasional meteorite to support my collecting habit, and a true dealer. How you ever parted with that CAI capped jewel is beyond me, I doubt I would have ever been able to sell it! That is truly one of the most unique features I've ever seen. -Larry In a message dated 3/23/2008 10:51:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
Hi Bob, You never know when something like this will come along, you just have to keep a keen eye on my auctions or special announcements! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI Greg, Anytime you feel like experiencing some of that joy , just go ahead and share some of your meteorites w/ me. I will happily accept. Thanks, Bob -- Original message -- From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Larry, I agree! Those are a couple of examples one regrets parting with afterwards, but then again, if I were to hog up all that I have found, purchased or traded for over the years, I wouldn't get the joy for sharing. To me, that is just as important as collecting! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI Greg, List, This is a perfect example of the difference between people like me who sell the occasional meteorite to support my collecting habit, and a true dealer. How you ever parted with that CAI capped jewel is beyond me, I doubt I would have ever been able to sell it! That is truly one of the most unique features I've ever seen. -Larry In a message dated 3/23/2008 10:51:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030 1) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home
Re: [meteorite-list] The all-time meteorite doo-dad
Hi Paul, You never know where the cutting dust ends up. An interesting application for the NWA 482 and NWA 1195 cutting dust the seller of the pipe purchased from Adam. It looks like he may have glued the dust to the glass eyes?? Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] The all-time meteorite doo-dad Check out this ebay auction and note the pedigree. http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-MEMENTO-MORI-SKULL-PIPE-MOON-MARS-METEORITE_W0QQitemZ330219460322QQihZ014QQcategoryZ156519QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Paul __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rare 5-Day Extravaganza - AD
Dear List members, Over the next five days, I have different sets of excellent auctions ending, totaling 151 specimens. To make it easier to see the different sets ending on the particular days, I have made links to just those days worth of material. They are: 1) Today (Wednesday) - 59 items, most started at 99 cents (MANY low prices will be realized today!!), ending in about seven hours (Be sure to check both pages). http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1catref=C6rd=0frpp=50satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080219dfts=14dfe=20080219dfte=24price=1saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1%26fsoo%3D1fgtp= 2) Friday - 18 items, The HUGE selection of LARGE Planetary specimens, including the World's Largest Granulitic Lunar!!! http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1catref=C6rd=0frpp=50satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080221dfts=14dfe=20080221dfte=24saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1%26fsoo%3D1fgtp= 3) Sunday - 14 items, a dozen 2-kilo Lots of Saharan Unclassified stones and 3 more smaller Planetary meteorites. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1catref=C6rd=0frpp=50satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080223dfts=10dfe=20080223dfte=24saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1fsoo=1 4) Monday - 60 items, Angrites, Angrites, Maskelynite-rich Eucrite and MORE Planetary choices (Be sure to check both pages)! http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1catref=C6rd=0frpp=50satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080224dfts=10dfe=20080224dfte=24saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1%26fsoo%3D1 To see all 151 items I currently have available on one link, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault I appreciate all who bid with me, and if you do not like to bid, contact me Off List to let me know of anything you are interested in. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar Curators Wanted - AD
Dear List Members, I am looking for a few Lunar Curators from museums or private collections who are interested in obtaining some of the most sought after lunar meteorites on the planet! I loaded a few key specimens on eBay, more or less as an awareness campaign where one could obtain such rare objects from the moon. This of course followed the closing hours of the 39th Lunar Planetary Science Conference in Houston on Friday. I do not expect most of these to sell on eBay but am willing to entertain serious offers for the larger specimens that do not sell. These belong in a museum for all to enjoy! To see these 19 awesome specimens, click here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1fcl=3frpp=50ftid=2fcd=2fccl=0rd=0satitle=sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifdff=1dfs=20080221dfts=14dfe=20080221dfte=24saprclo=saprchi=seller=1sass=naturesvaultfsop=1%26fsoo%3D1fgtp= To see the above 19 and all of the other meteorites, including some more lunar meteorites in smaller sizes, that I currently have on eBay, click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Thank you for your interest, and if you are not interested in bidding, please enjoy the photos! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ANOTHER Interesting eBay auction
Hi Michael, I was tempted to click the 99 cents buy-in button but wanted to see if anyone REALLY needed to Win-it/you-Now sp I held back. Pretty funny stuff! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ANOTHER Interesting eBay auction Here's another interesting one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110234305503 Best wishes, Michael on 3/16/08 11:30 AM, Darren Garrison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:02:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Not entirely off-topic http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110233496850 For the people who can't afford this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250221082811 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oriented Taza's
Dear Oriented Meteorite Fans, Seems that oriented meteorites are all the rage right now so I thought I would photograph a few Taza's for you to enjoy. Here they are with photo links: Taza Button #1 - 4.818g http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc1.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc2.jpg Taza Button #2 - 10.9g http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc3.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc4.jpg Taza Tornado - 6.7g http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc5.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc6.jpg Taza The Bolide - 41.8g http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc7.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc8.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ebay/taza-oriented/dsc9.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Excellent Deals on Ending Auctions - AD
Dear List Members, In about 12 hours I have 18 very nice auctions ending, all of which started out at just 99 cents, no reserves, no games, just excellent meteorites at fantastic values! All can be seen under my eBay seller name, NaturesVault, http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Here are the direct links to 16 meteorite auctions: NWA 482 Lunar Slice with CRUST! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=350033428704ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=022 NWA 998 Martian Nakhlite (still at 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=350033429225ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=022 NWA 1068 Martian Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=350033429898ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=022 NWA 1195 Martian Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=350033430414ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=022 NWA 2708 CK4 Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199459876ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2776 SUPER DUPER H5 Pieces, still at just 99 cents, amazing ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=350033431490ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=022 NWA 2921 R3.8 Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199460789ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3133 Anomalous Achondrite Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199461130ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3136 Lunar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199461479ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3143 Diogenite Slice NICE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199461788ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3149 Howardite Slice SUPER THIN CUT - AWESOME!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199462071ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3163 Lunar Granulite Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199462322ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4473 Polymict Diogenite Breccia Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199462702ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite - The First!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199463255ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite - From Mercury? The debate continues at the Lunar Planetary Conference in Houston TODAY!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199463576ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NEA 001 Lunar Anorthositic Regolith http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170199464063ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Now that I have supplied the auction links, go out there and grab your self an awesome deal!!! Thank you for bidding! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] '869?
Hello Don, I did not see any at the Tucson Show but I do have a good supply of Best Quality individuals anywhere from 1 gram up to larger. Of course the smaller individuals are the most complete. I usually offer some on eBay in individual form or in 1-kilo lots. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Don Rawlings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] '869? 5 to 10 cents a gram for NWA869? Maybe a couple of years ago, but not any more. I heard that there was virtually none to be bought at the Tucson show. Can attendees confirm this? Don --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:56:45 EDT, you wrote: Hello List, Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's just that I've never seen this litho. Comments appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I donno, looks like something old and rotten to me. 5 or 10 cents a gram seems about the right price for it. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Don Rawlings Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adrar morocco meteorite?
Hi Matt, I personally have never heard of such a meteorite from Morocco. Is this supposed to be a new fall, an old one or ?? according to your Moroccan? Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Adrar morocco meteorite? I recently purchased a few hundred grams of nicely crusted and pretty fresh individuals from a Moroccan dealer. He said they were called Adrar and there was already info on the circumstances of the fall/find but I have been unable to verify this. Does anyone have information about the Adrar meteorite? Thanks Matt -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Alcohol, meteorite-related, and a bit more...
Hi Alex, Germany:... Lets not forget the best Apple Wine I ever encountered, Thanks to all who I tipped a few cups with in Germany last year!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Alcohol, meteorite-related, and a bit more... No problem about what to get here and there and everywhere... U.S.:[x] guns and weapons [ ] high percentage alcohol (..meteorite-related, of course :-)) [ ] pornography [x] bigotry [x] death penalty [x] cheap gas, big fridges, low energy cost [x] you have to wait to be seated in restaurants [ ] affordable health system [ ] comparably strong trade unions [ ] comparably good dismissal protection [x] easy tax system, favoring private enterprise [ ] good politicians, far-sighted [x] comparably low postage rates and fees [x] many meteorites, preferably from RENOWNED dealers!! Germany: [ ] guns and weapons [x] high percentage alcohol (..meteorite-related, of course :-)) [x] pornography [x?]...we´re generelly not *that* religious a society... [ ] death penalty [ ] cheap gas, big fridges, low energy cost [ ] you have to wait to be seated in restaurants [x?]...not so sure, still good, but steeply increasing costs... [x] comparably strong trade unions [x] comparably good dismissal protection [ ] easy tax system (well, in fact, just the opposite is true!) [ ] good politicians, far sighted [ ] comparably low postage rates and fees [x] many meteorites, preferably from RENOWNED dealers!! Well, of course this was meant as nothing but an on-topic message on postage rates and meteorites alone, with just a tiny little bit of deviation... :-) Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 13 Planetary and More Ending Today - AD
! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 13 Planetary Meteorites AND More...
Dear List Members, It has been a while since I have offered anything on eBay, but I have finally put up a great selection of meteorites with no less than 13 DIFFERENT Planetary choices (more if you include Angrites), most starting at just 99 cents!! These can all be found by me - NaturesVault. There seems to be a run on NWA 869 material as of late with many requests from collectors and dealers over the last two weeks, so I started out with a selection of 869 individuals and 1-kilo lots. My offerings then go into other great material with Buy it Now options and then goes into 99-cent starting points beginning with NWA 482. To see all 94 current auctions, most of which start at just 99 cents, click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Thank you for looking, bidding and/or just saying Hi, I truly appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sure is quiet
Sometimes silence is Golden :-) Now that the NASCAR race has started, I have left the building! Have a nice day! Greg - Original Message - From: David Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sure is quiet Where did everyone go? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an online forumformat?
Hi Geoff and List, I agree with Geoff whole heartedly!! Art's List is just fine the way it is. Even though the Delete key gets a work out from time to time, it is no worse for wear from the regular SPAM I have to delete. I choose not to use my Spam filters because occasionally an email I want gets sent to the AntiSpam folder. I don't want to have to search that folder and the In Box, the same way I prefer not to use Forums, too much looking around and then no time to accomplish anything! This whole discussion started from a FORUM and leaked over to Art's List, this is what I find annoying. Now we have even more emails to delete, although some interesting info (or thoughts) has/have been gleaned from it. I'd say, lets no longer discuss the discussion group on the List when it should go back to where it started, the Forum from where this discussion originated and should be discussed. Whew, say that ten times fast ;-) Geoff, The Paleolist sounds interesting, I will have to go check it out! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What doesn't this list use an online forumformat? Dear Listees: I find it bizarre and somewhat annoying that every so often someone joins the M-List and then tries to change it. Why isn't it this way or that way? you ask. The M-List, along with Meteorite Times, are the cornerstones of the international meteorite collecting community and the List works great just the way it is. If you don't want to read the as it happens news, subscribe to the daily digest. Very easy. The List has been around for 11 (?) years. I've been a member for more than ten, and I also run a large international fossil discussion group -- The Paleolist -- which employs exactly the same excellent Mailman software which Art Jones uses to run the M-List. In fact, I modelled the Paleolist after the M-List in some respects (thank you Art), because it does work so very well. I've also been a web professional for more than ten years and in my experience, forums are difficult and inefficient to use, have security and reliability issues, and -- please! -- the suggestion about moving to Yahoo Groups? That is the WORST available discussion format -- loaded with cheap ads and with Yahoo's tacky, antiquated and user-unfriendly features slapped on top. The M-List is the biggest and best meteorite discussion group out there, and I'm quite sure it always will be. Love it or leave it : ) Respectfully, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.campometeorites.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NLSI acronym meaning
Hi Jerry, Are you looking for LPSC - Lunar Planetary Science Conference or LPI - Lunar Planetary Institute? http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/lpsc20082nd.shtml Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NLSI acronym meaning Lunar Science Conference help?? I beg ignorance [again] NLSI lunar science [national?] [Institute] national?? how provincial??? Jerry Flaherty __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse
Hi Robert, Greg and List, I just walked outside my front door at 8:00 PM EST and front row seat in front of me is a perfectly clear full moon. I hope the clouds stay away for the big show starting in less than an hour. Best regards, Greg Florida Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse Greg, Thanks a lot for the link for all of us. Very nicely done! (The anchor for that news station better keep an eye out for you. ;-) Best wishes, Robert Woolard --- Greg Redfern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I hope you don't mind but I invite you to look at the link - http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5814119 to get some information of the 2-20-08 total lunar eclipse. All times are EST. Enjoy this great sky show as it is the last until 12-21-10. Let me know how it looks to you. All the best, Greg Greg Redfern NASA JPL Solar System Ambassador http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/index.html WHAT'S UP?: THE SPACE PLACE http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=600113nid=421 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse
Hello sky gazers, Pre eclipse sky - 100% clear. During 1st quarter, half and 3rd quarter phases - Off and on clouds creating an eerie look to the moon appearing and disappearing through the binoculars. Final 1/8th or so - 100% clear skies, awesome!!! After Total Eclipse - Mostly cloudy. I was able to watch it all from a chair on my front porch, not too bad :-) I snapped a few photos in hi-res fully zoomed mode and will try to click a few during the moon's rebirth. In fact, the color of orange the moon looks with the last rays of sun beaming upon it reminded me of when you put a light behind an egg to see the inside. I do not think my digital camera will do much good but worth the try. If they are somewhat decent I will post a link to the List. Can't wait to see some of the photos from the pros out there. Sorry to hear of those who had unfavorable cloud conditions. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteoritelist Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse you think that might be from atmospheric conditions? - Original Message - From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse Clear Skies here in Chi Town. Almost completely eclipsed right now. Sorry about you guys in cloudy Tucson :-( And red too :-) - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wed Total Lunar Eclipse Michael Farmer wrote: I just looked, it is pretty cloudy here. Yeah, where did they come from all of a sudden? It was clear as a bell thirty minutes ago. That's why we move to Tucson, for the cloudy skies: ) Geoff N. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Angrite Front Runners and Abstracts
Dear List Members and Angrite Collectors, Pete asks: Of the three (angrites) listed (NWA 2999, NWA 4590 Tamassint, NWA 4801), Greg, which would you consider as the front runner? I hope it's NWA 2999 as that's the only one I have of those three that you've listed. Pete Pete, I consider all three of the angrites I have brought to the scientific and collecting world, with help from the nomadic finders and my Moroccan partners, as front runners. If it were not these angrites, many analytical testing may not have been considered. Take for instance the abstract titled Magnetism On The Angrite Parent Body by Dr. Benjamin Weiss of MIT in Boston. I and my most recent angrite, NWA 4931 (new 2140 gram main mass paired to NWA 2999) were flown up to MIT to have a core sample taken from this large stone. This was important because Dr. Weiss could then perform clean magnetism testing from a sample that was hopefully not subjected to Moroccan or other's magnets. This is a very time consuming testing process and the coring took place in October 2007. Here is Dr. Weiss's abstract, which does not include NWA 4931 because it was not yet discovered during his initial testing: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/2143.pdf Here is an abstract presented by Drs Amelin and Irving reporting ages of angrites NWA 2999, NWA 4590 Tamassint and NWA 4801: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metchron2007/pdf/4061.pdf Here is another interesting abstract discussing constraints for existence of a core on the APB: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1936.pdf I hope this helps you decide which is the front runner, which may be in the scientific data each reveals or simply a matter of beauty as seen by each individual collector. All three are completely different in appearance. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Pete Shugar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mecurian meteorites Of the three listed, Greg, which would you consider as the front runner? I hope it's NWA 2999 as that's the only one I have of those three that you've listed. Pete __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Angrites - Meteorites from Mercury...
Hi Darren and fans of Mercury and/or its likely meteorites, Three strong candidates come to mind ;-) NWA 2999 NWA 4590 Tamassint NWA 4801 Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites from Mercury? Meteorites from Mercury? February 15, 2008 by Ken Croswell Meteorites from the Moon and Mars give earthbound scientists free rock samples from other worlds. Now Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British Columbia, Vancouver) say we should expect a few meteorites from Mercury too. Gladman and Coffey conducted computer simulations of what happens after asteroids and comets slam into the innermost planet and kick debris into space. Past studies assumed that rocks knocked off Mercury weren't getting away with much more than its escape velocity of 2.6 miles (4.2 km) per second. That's too slow to climb away from the Sun and make it out to Earth. But some previous assumptions were wrong, says Gladman, because the collisional circumstances at Mercury are very different than anywhere else. The Sun's innermost planet speeds through space with a mean velocity of 30 miles (48 km) per second. Furthermore, asteroids and comets crossing Mercury's orbit also travel fast. So impactors strike the planet at speeds 5 to 15 times its escape velocity, and ejecta can rocket off the surface traveling much faster than had been assumed. The new study, which has been submitted to Meteoritics and Planetary Science, concludes that up to 5% of this high-speed debris from Mercury reaches Earth - a third to a half of the delivery rate of meteorites from Mars. Gladman notes that roughly a half dozen samples of Mercury should already be sitting in meteorite collections worldwide. But how would an interplanetary prospector recognize that a stone really is from the innermost planet? Some planetary geologists think a rare class of meteorites called angrites might be good candidates, though others disagree. Gladman cautions, Until you have some kind of ground truth, it's very difficult to make those claims. He says scientists need more information about the composition of Mercury's surface to find matches with suspicious meteorites. Fortunately, the Messenger spacecraft has begun exploring the planet. Messenger flew past Mercury in January and will go into orbit in 2011. It should provide the data that will confirm or refute candidate meteorites from Mercury. Ken Croswell is the author of Ten Worlds: Everything That Orbits the Sun (Boyds Mills Press, 2006). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paleo Meteorite
Hi Steve and List, NWA 2828 has the pebbles that helped to classify this Paleometeorite. Here is a link to one of the slices I had that illustrates this occurrence including a few other photos of NWA 2828: NWA 2828 EL3: Photograph of a 24.9g NWA 2828 slice with rhyolite pebble (image 1): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg Photograph of magnified radial pyroxene chondrule (image 2): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828chondrule.jpg Photograph of magnified whitish enstatite-rich clast (image 3): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828clast.jpg Photograph of a 14.3g complete slice of NWA 2828 (image 4): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828slice.jpg I have plenty of the Blue material, a List member in the recent past posted that this may be aubrite material but chondrules were found there too, sorry. So far, NWA 4799 is the first and only true aubrite from Northwest Africa! Here are some links to this Truly amazing Aubrite. Do not forget that when I announced NWA 4799 that I also offered a 100% Money Back Guarantee that it will remain classified as an Aubrite. I believe this is important because of the NWA 2828 reclassification to EL3 and the beliefs of some who think the pairings to NWA 2828 are aubrites: NWA 4799 True Aubrite: Image of 26.7 gram polished half of largest stone: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799a.jpg Image of large whitish enstatite grains at 26x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799c.jpg Image of large enstatite grain and veins of goethite from alteration of metal at 20x magnification (lower left shows small metal grain): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799d.jpg Image of large enstatite grains at 32x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799e.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] paleo meteorite Hi list.Which of the paleo meteorite has the pebbles in them?To me that one is the coolest. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! http://chicagometeorites.net/ Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Real Aubrite - NWA 4799
Hello All who love Aubrites, NWA 4799 - The first TRUE Aubrite from Northwest Africa. Even though I have previously announced NWA 4799, here are some great photos of this beauty: Image of 26.7 gram polished half of largest stone: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799a.jpg Image of large whitish enstatite grains at 26x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799c.jpg Image of large enstatite grain and veins of goethite from alteration of metal at 20x magnification (lower left shows small metal grain): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799d.jpg Image of large enstatite grains at 32x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799e.jpg Here is a link to some eBay auctions which ended January 23rd (I do not currently have any eBay auctions running): http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=sosbrftog=1dfsp=1from=R10_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4799%22sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insiffis=2ftrt=1ftrv=1saprclo=saprchi=fsop=1fsoo=1 I'll let the meteorite speak for itself, simply awesome!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Not an Aubrite This is ridiculous: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ160205758255 Obviously not an Aubrite as advertised. Not even Murchison (looks like CV3). And what is 'Space Research Corporation?' The only info I can find is of a notorious arms smuggling company. I emailed the seller and told him that it is not an aubrite and that he would be ripping off some poor new meteorite collector if it sells. The seller doesn't believe me because he has a 'COA' and claims that he has received dozens of offers to end his auction early for $400. Come on! Scam... By the way... COA is usually an acronym for: FAKE. Bored and waiting for my plane, Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ending - Pre Tucson Extravaganza Offers - AD
Dear List Members, I am back from a short expedition and have a huge amount of Museum Quality rarities and others starting to end on eBay in just 90 minutes and through the next five hours. They all have the Buy it Now feature, and if that still isn't the deal you are looking for, the opening asking price is a great option to bid on before someone beats you to it waiting for a good last minute bargain, AND if those prices are still not to your wishes, I am considering offers on all of the pieces currently on eBay, so if it does not sell, send me an email with an offer and I will let you know if I can accept it. Don't forget about my offer to provide good payment plan options if needed or desired! To see all that I have listed, click here (Take a look, well worth it even if you are not in the market at this time): http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Be sure to check out my new and TRUE Aubrite NWA 4799. I am offering a 100% Money Back Guarantee on it that it will remain as an Aubrite classification. I feel I must offer this because of the EL3 which at first was classified as an aubrite and then later chondrules were found, making it an EL3. This will not be the case with NWA 4799, it is Northwest Africa's first TRUE aubrite. These will be ending first and the TKW is not much and the very best specimens are currently on eBay. This is one fantastic meteorite and all NWA 4799 pieces can be seen here (be sure to look at all of the other material available also after viewing these): http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1dfsp=1from=R10_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4799%22sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2sadis=200fpos=33852sabfmts=1saobfmts=insifftrt=1ftrv=1saprclo=saprchi=fsop=1fsoo=1 Here is the list of different specimens that are currently available on eBay in the order they will be ending, with a mingling of others at the end of list: NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite classification, already priced the best I can do!) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces, make that 11 left!!) NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795) NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list) NWA 1068 Shergottite NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left) NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!) NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous) NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!) NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful) NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011) NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking) Mali Bassikounou NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots Unclassified 2-kilo Lots NWA 869 1-kilo lots Amgala (Oum Dreyga) Dhofar 950 Lunar (both eBay pieces sold but I have three more slices available if interested). Gao NWA 3160 Lunar NWA 3171 Shergottite NWA 2995 Lunar (Last but not least, two of the best slices available, one polished!) Thank you to all who have already taken advantage of these fantastic deals! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Original email to List: Dear List Members, I have just re-listed 265 eBay auctions that did not sell after the first round or more. I would like to offer List members an excellent opportunity to get exceptional material at outstanding values. All of the auctions have the Buy it Now feature, so if you see that special something, click and it is yours! If the price you see is just not good enough for you, instead of going behind closed doors to discuss discounts like at the Tucson Show, make me an offer on anything I have, and if not sold in one week, I will consider your offer, especially on the large ticket specimens. You never know, you may end up with your best deal here instead of going all the way to Tucson!! Here is a quick list of what I have listed in order of eBay appearance this week: NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite classification, already priced the best I can do!) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces) NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795) NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list) NWA 1068 Shergottite NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left) NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!) NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous) NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!) NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful) NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011) NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking) Mali Bassikounou NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots Unclassified 2-kilo Lots NWA 869 1-kilo lots Amgala (Oum Dreyga
[meteorite-list] Pre Tucson Extravaganza Offers - AD
Dear List Members, I have just re-listed 265 eBay auctions that did not sell after the first round or more. I would like to offer List members an excellent opportunity to get exceptional material at outstanding values. All of the auctions have the Buy it Now feature, so if you see that special something, click and it is yours! If the price you see is just not good enough for you, instead of going behind closed doors to discuss discounts like at the Tucson Show, make me an offer on anything I have, and if not sold in one week, I will consider your offer, especially on the large ticket specimens. You never know, you may end up with your best deal here instead of going all the way to Tucson!! To see all that I have listed, click here (Take a look, well worth it even if you are not in the market at this time): http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Here is a quick list of what I have listed in order of eBay appearance this week: NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite classification, already priced the best I can do!) NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces) NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795) NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list) NWA 1068 Shergottite NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left) NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces) NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!) NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous) NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!) NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated) NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!) NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful) NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011) NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking) Mali Bassikounou NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots Unclassified 2-kilo Lots NWA 869 1-kilo lots Amgala (Oum Dreyga) Dhofar 950 Lunar Gao NWA 3160 Lunar NWA 3171 Shergottite NWA 2995 Lunar (Last but not least, two of the best slices available, one polished!) Don't be shy with your offers, you never know how nice I will be ;-) In some cases the listed price is the best I can do because of high acquisition costs. In these cases, if you see what you must have, bid and win so you don't hesitate and lose it to another collector. I will be out of town on a short expedition from Thursday 17th through the 22nd so I will not be able to answer any questions during that time. If you see what you like and feel the price is right, click it quick as someone else may want it also. I will consider all offers when I get back and answer all emails. If you need to make special payment plan arrangements for the more expensive items, let me know what you have in mind and I may be able to accommodate you. Best regards and Thank You for looking and/or bidding! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial
Hi Bob, Bob wrote: Actually, the initial weight would need to be 112.5g if the current weight is 90g and if 20% was removed for testing. Excellent point. That is why I chase down and just offer the rarities and other meteorites, leaving the number crunching to the scientists. :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Bob Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Actually, the initial weight would need to be 112.5g if the current weight is 90g and if 20% was removed for testing. Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:49 PM To: Timothy Heitz Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Hi Tim, My point is that Aziz is advertising a 90g Lodranite Breccia for sale. I asked simple questions that had nothing to do with the broad NWA unclassified market. How does he know it is a Lodranite? What lab classified it? Did he (Aziz) submit the proper type sample (18 grams in this case)? Respectfully, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Should all NWA's be classified? Should have all the pieces of NWA 869 been classified? I'm sure there are many NWA's on e-bay right now that are not classified. Best Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Hello Aziz, I see you are offering what appear to be classified meteorites for sale. You claim specific classification information like 90g Lodranite Breccia. What are the assigned NWA numbers and what laboratory did you send the 18-gram type sample (20% of 90 grams) to in order to have this classification? This is no place for self classifying! This is a typical Moroccan practice to offer material they have as the same as other classified material. Best regards, Greg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial
Hello Aziz, I see you are offering what appear to be classified meteorites for sale. You claim specific classification information like 90g Lodranite Breccia. What are the assigned NWA numbers and what laboratory did you send the 18-gram type sample (20% of 90 grams) to in order to have this classification? This is no place for self classifying! This is a typical Moroccan practice to offer material they have as the same as other classified material. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Hello List members I'm back from my vacation, and I have some amazing material to sell out : - 14kg Excellent nwa Iron - 200g winonaite - Another excellent 90g Lodranite breccia - The freshest black CK available at NWA market, only 673g - Very beautiful and fresh complete Ureilite 278g And more rarities to recognize and start the offerings. Best Regards Aziz Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Carrying idiots to Newcastle (and back)
Hello Michael and List, Michael asks, Would you two (Jason and E.P.) please write each other OFF LIST. I would be grateful. Anyone else be grateful? Best wishes, Michael It would have been too much to ask if we did not have any more Mammoth Stew vomit waiting for us after a nice Christmas holiday. When asked to take it off List, nope, even on Christmas day, more overflowing stew (I guess that was the new keyboard Santa dropped off). Lets hope for a happy New Years!!!...!!!...!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carrying idiots to Newcastle (and back) Would you two please write each other OFF LIST. I would be grateful. Anyone else be grateful? Best wishes, Michael on 12/26/07 2:19 AM, Jason Utas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E.P., I said I wouldn't argue the point anymore, but this is just insulting - after I say I'm to leave, you repeatedly bash me? You're going into overkill here - one might almost think you're compensating for your own beliefs with this little romp-around. Sterling himself just told you that the neutron release from an impact would be negligible compared to the levels about which you've been talking. He's the one disagreeing with you at this point; I've already told you that I've had enough of this idiotic discussion; as Darren (not 'Darryl,' as you incorrectly noted) put it, it's nothing but a waste of time to try to explain to you what the concept of 'proof' means, so there's no point in perpetuating your idiocy for all to read. I had enough of this BS - if you want more of my end, by all means, try to draw me out, but, to be perfectly frank, I feel much less inclined to keep this argument even remotely civil given what you've just said. At this point, it's clear; the only person here who knows less than impacts (out of the three of us) than me, is you, and I'm sure that if anyone else saw any insanity in my so-called ravings, etc, etc, I'm sure they'd tell me - they've certainly known me for long enough. Whereas I admitted that my knowledge was limited, and based on my understanding of Physics B (no calculus involved, though I'm learning that in another class), you failed to provide any mathematical or otherwise relevant credentials on your part when confronted with the question, ignoring it completely, as I'm sure you will again should you reply to this message (though now that I've said this, you might actually deal with it - who knows?). Though I'm glad you saw the need to apologize...even if you did it for the wrong person. I'll round this off with two quotes I think you should actually read, whether or not you decide to read whatever else I've written over the past week in the near future. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC) I'd say this is it for me, but if you continue with your...I have no other way of describing it other than 'immature' - messages (there's a reason no one is standing up and agreeing with you on any point you've so far put forth, in case you might not have noticed this *fact*), I probably will reply, seeing as we've left the arena of scientific discussion and you've now successfully, as I'm sure you wanted, brought it to blows. Jason On Dec 25, 2007 10:26 PM, E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - For those trying to work out the pathology of Jason's mental defect, consider his claim here: And you call me biasedmaybe to the 'theory' that KE = 1/2mv^2, I suppose. I've only been arguing based on impact dynamics and known facts. You know and I know and (nearly) everyone else here knows that Jason's understanding of impact dynamics is nil, zero, zip, nada. Sterling has been through them with him again and again and again and again and again, and they still don't sink in - as for some strange reason Jason thinks that he already knows them. As Jason's obliviousness extends to the hard data, I give up. Not another minute of my time. As Jason's ravings are not only interfering with the Arctic Iron search, but have also taken away important space for commercial notices, my apologies not only to the hunters but to the dealers here as well. good hunting, and a prosperous new year to all, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas _ ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [meteorite-list] Theories, facts, and personal attacks
Hi John and other irritated receivers of the Stew-age, John wrote: You guys remind me of the PortaPotties at a Rock Concert...on the fourth day! Give it a rest and go take (this applies to both/all of you) your dog for a long walk. If I had to think of a visual to describe the Mammoth barf thread, I would think of a puppy whose balls just dropped and it felt like it had to bark and attack others around it to be one of the big dogs. Too much personal barking to remain on the List!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Theories, facts, and personal attacks You guys remind me of the PortaPotties at a Rock Concert...on the fourth day! Give it a rest and go take (this applies to both/all of you) your dog for a long walk. John At 04:59 PM 12/26/2007, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Bob - E.P. and List, I see no reason to lower the bar on this discussion by resorting to personal attacks against Jason. You evidently have never met this young man, or you might be embarrassed by your treatment of him here. All I know of Jason is his behaviour in his recent posts, and his failure to learn anything despite Sterling's repeated attempts to point him in the right directions. What I personally find irritating is his repeated attributions to me of mentions of airbursts, and his repeated confusions of the 10,900 BCE events and the 31,000 impact event. I've known Jason for many years, and have found him to be among the more articulate, educated, and scientifically-minded of individuals -- not just among his age-group, but even when compared to people many years his senior. He is among the best of our young people? Great Spirit help us! Are you really so sure that his understanding of impact dynamics is any worse than your own? Yes. (Yes, E.P., you have latched on to some very curious notions about what is and is not possible during a NEO impact.) Do share your wisdom, then, Bob - I've made some real blunders over the years, but thankfully I've had those here who gently would try to point me in the right direction. As for a comet impact in 10,900 BCE being a fact as opposed to a theory or a hypothesis, it has not been demonstrated (at least not to my satisfaction) that the *effects* you attribute to a comet impact are ~uniquely~ explained by such. If you have any other explanation for the impactites which have been found, do share it. Mega-fauna die off can be caused by many things; True; but not so abruptly and widely. even if a die-off is demonstrated to temporally coincide with evidence of a large impact, coincidence is not proof of causation. Argue causation with me after you don't eat for three or four months. It's certainly strongly ~suggestive~, but it does not rise to the level of fact. And frankly I see no reason (other than hubris) to elevate the language from theory to fact, when theory is a perfectly fine way of describing the level of understanding. Dismissing the impactite layer as theory does not strike me as being scientific, and it isn't really hubris either, its simply that the mind has trouble accepting that you, your loved ones, everyone you ever knew and everything you ever did can be blown off the face of the Earth in an instant without any warning. If you have any other explanation for it, then please share it. Theory gets such a bum rap these days, e.g. it's only a theory. Theories are great! General relativity, evolution, the Big Bang -- theories all of them. Yeah. Right now one of my working theories is that hyper-velocity impacts are releasing high energy neutrons and protons. Another working theory of mine is that earlier iron impacts can be used as models to try and find more data from other large iron impacts. --Rob E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas -Original Message- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial
Hi Tim, My point is that Aziz is advertising a 90g Lodranite Breccia for sale. I asked simple questions that had nothing to do with the broad NWA unclassified market. How does he know it is a Lodranite? What lab classified it? Did he (Aziz) submit the proper type sample (18 grams in this case)? Respectfully, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Should all NWA's be classified? Should have all the pieces of NWA 869 been classified? I'm sure there are many NWA's on e-bay right now that are not classified. Best Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Hello Aziz, I see you are offering what appear to be classified meteorites for sale. You claim specific classification information like 90g Lodranite Breccia. What are the assigned NWA numbers and what laboratory did you send the 18-gram type sample (20% of 90 grams) to in order to have this classification? This is no place for self classifying! This is a typical Moroccan practice to offer material they have as the same as other classified material. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD ; NWA matrial Hello List members I'm back from my vacation, and I have some amazing material to sell out : - 14kg Excellent nwa Iron - 200g winonaite - Another excellent 90g Lodranite breccia - The freshest black CK available at NWA market, only 673g - Very beautiful and fresh complete Ureilite 278g And more rarities to recognize and start the offerings. Best Regards Aziz Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] True Aubrite (NWA 4799) Auctions Ending
Dear List Members and Aubrite Enthusiasts, Last week I announced a New and True classified Aubrite, NWA 4799. I have 30 eBay auctions ending tomorrow (Thursday) and they represent the largest pieces I have available. This meteorite is awesome when viewed with an eye loop and especially under a microscope. Check out the micro images on the description in my eBay offerings. Here is a link to all that are currently available: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4799%22category0= Also ending tomorrow are the very last 16 specimens of the amazing new Maskelynite-rich Eucrite Breccia, NWA 4883. Many List members can attest to the beauty and complexity of this one! Please click this link to see all that are available (these also have nice close-up photo links in the eBay description): http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4883%22 Thank you to all who have purchased these from me, I very much appreciate it. I wish everyone warm holiday cheer, it's getting closer to 2008, one never knows what meteoritic goodies are in store for the new year... ;-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Attacks
Dear List, Lets say for conversation sake that the asteroid does hit Mars. Would there be a Rover Extinction, and if so, should we name it Rover Ratatouille, keeping in line with the recent Mammoth Stew thread? On a more serious side, lets say that the asteroid does hit, when would the next closest Earth/Mars orbit paths be, and would it be close enough for earth's gravity to pull in some Martian debris? If that did happen, I am ready for my bowl of Chassigny Casserole! ;-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Monitor Asteroid to Pass Near Mars Grey Hautaluoma Headquarters, Washington 202-358-0668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D.C. Agle Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-393-9011 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec. 21, 2007 RELEASE : 07-284 Astronomers Monitor Asteroid to Pass Near Mars WASHINGTON - Astronomers funded by NASA are monitoring the trajectory of an asteroid estimated to be 164-feet wide that is expected to cross Mars' orbital path early next year. Observations provided by the astronomers and analyzed by NASA's Near-Earth Object Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., indicate the object may pass within 30,000 miles of Mars at about 6 a.m. EST on Jan. 30, 2008. Right now asteroid 2007 WD5 is about half-way between the Earth and Mars and closing the distance at a speed of about 27,900 miles per hour, said Don Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Office at JPL. Over the next five weeks, we hope to gather more information from observatories so we can further refine the asteroid's trajectory. NASA detects and tracks asteroids and comets passing close to Earth. The Near Earth Object Observation Program, commonly called Spaceguard, plots the orbits of these objects to determine if any could be potentially hazardous to our planet. Asteroid 2007 WD5 was first discovered on Nov. 20, 2007, by the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey and put on a watch list because its orbit passes near the Earth. Further observations from both the NASA-funded Spacewatch at Kitt Peak, Ariz., and the Magdalena Ridge Observatory in New Mexico gave scientists enough data to determine that the asteroid was not a danger to Earth, but could potentially impact Mars. This makes it a member of an interesting class of small objects that are both Near Earth Objects and Mars crossers. Because of current uncertainties about the asteroid's exact orbit, there is a 1-in-75 chance of 2007 WD5 impacting Mars. If this unlikely event were to occur, it would be somewhere within a broad swath across the planet north of where the Opportunity rover is. We estimate such impacts occur on Mars every thousand years or so, said Steve Chesley, a scientist at JPL. If 2007 WD5 were to thump Mars on Jan. 30, we calculate it would hit at about 30,000 miles per hour and might create a crater more than half-a-mile wide. The Mars Rover Opportunity is currently exploring a crater approximately this size. Such a collision could release about three megatons of energy. Scientists believe an event of comparable magnitude occurred here on Earth in 1908 in Tunguska, Siberia, but no crater was created. The object was disintegrated by Earth's thicker atmosphere before it hit the ground, although the air blast devastated a large area of unpopulated forest. NASA and its partners will continue to track asteroid 2007 WD5. For more information, visit: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ - end - __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew - Over Done
Anyone else out there also had enough Mammoth Stew? If any more of this is served, I think I will throw up! Give it a rest and take it off List you guys, otherwise your tummies will be too full and sore to eat a nice Christmas dinner. If you are good for the next 3 days, Santa might bring you new keyboards since your others must certainly be worn out by now (I know mine is, or at least the 'Delete' key). Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jason Utas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mammoth Stew - let leg simmer on fire in skin E.P., All, To be perfectly frank, I've had enough of you, but I do like getting the last word in, so here you go. Why do I have this feeling that this will not be the last word we hear from Jason? Probably because we've not seen the last of you either; you're doing the same thing ;) Notice how no one else is agreeing with you. Yeah, I noticed that Sterling and a few others have already responded to Jason's multiple misconceptions about impact processes, but Jason seems to have fixated on me. Now if he only had tits... Sterling and I have come to a sort of agreement, in case you've missed it, but I really included the gist of it in my last email - in any case, it should be below, if you included my entire post in your response. Damn straight - I'm so hot even middle-aged guys wish I had tits. Hmmm, this is getting awkward At least everyone else can see what a fool you're making of yourself... Apparently Jason has not bothered to consider the alternative hypothesis that it might be the other way around. Well I've had a few messages of support from list members as well as an email from a world-renowned expert on meteorites, stating that I was being too generous with my critiques, so I think you're mistaken here - as much as elsewhere. Go read Darren's post if you don't believe me. The only person in denial here is you, who refuses to accept the fact that he can't possibly know with any certainty what sort of cosmic cataclysms caused either dust layer. Apparently Jason ignored the Native American's memories of the Holocene Start Impacts which I posted here a while back. Ahhh, right. You go believe that. Darren's post sums up just about everyone else's opinion of that as well. Legends are not science. They tend to have somewhat historical roots, but we're talking about science here, not a picture book about native american storytelling. And in this post, Jason once again demonstrates his complete inability to differentiate between the holocene start impacts and the mammoth pepperer. What you have is a lack of proof for any known impact process, and you seem to want to attribute that to an airburst. In science, we just don't do that. In science, we don't mistate evidence in order to invalidate a hypothesis; we also don't mistate hyposthesis in order to invalidate them. You're not saying anything here. The point is that you have no evidence. No evidence =/= airburst. It doesn't matter what you say if there's nothing behind it. You keep saying that you have evidence for an airburst; what is your definitive evidence? By all means, tell us all right now... Why is Jason reading what he wants to believe, instead of what is actually written? Denial. Well, besides that fact that I've come to understand that what you write tends to be quite akin in quality (scientifically speaking) to the children's book rather aptly named 'Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs,' I think you're going to find it hard to get me to believe much of what you say - especially when the sole things that my beliefs are grounded in are logic, the laws of science, and mathematics. Which means that you expect a large, thirty-thousand year old crater to exist somewhere on the continent. Sterling gave Jason a few minutes of his time and went through ice impact with him, but that seems to have gone in one of Jason's ears and out the other, with nothing there to stop it. I have acknowledged multiple times that I see the ice impact as a (an albeit unlikely) possible explanation for the geologic evidence that has been found. You accuse me of misinterpreting what you wrote; why don't you try reading the emails that I've sent you to begin with? I repeatedly state that the ice impact is a possibility - you're the one who expected to find a crater given the evidence already discovered. You failed to include above the quote that clearly stated that you believed that a crater exists to be found. Maybe you've changed your point of view; I don't know, but you clearly stated that you believed that a crater exists to be found
[meteorite-list] New and True Aubrite - NWA 4799 - AD
Dear List Members, For my final Rare and Special offering of 2007, but certainly not the least, I would like to introduce NWA 4799. It is Northwest Africa's first and only true Aubrite. This meteorite finally puts to rest to what a true NWA aubrite should look like, I am even offering a 100% Money Back Guarantee that the classification will remain as aubrite. I feel I must spell this out in writing from the start because of all of the EL3 confusion. Click on the link below to read the entire classification and see what is available. Here are a couple of links to close-up views of some of the enstatite grains which NWA 4799 is almost entirely made up of: 26x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799c.jpg 20x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799d.jpg 32x magnification: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4799/nwa4799e.jpg Here is the direct eBay link to the largest available pieces of NWA 4799, some are polished, some are complete individuals (awesome when viewed under a microscope!!): http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4799%22category0= I forgot to include meteorite in the subject line of these eBay auctions so you need to type NWA 4799 in quotes in order to see just them when you search from eBay, otherwise just click the above link. Thank you for a great year, I hope to be able to bring more rare and exotic meteorites to you next year. Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Greg Hupé's gorgeous NWA 4883 eucrite ...
Hi Bernd, Jim, Michael and all who love exotic meteorites, Thank you Bernd for your great observations of NWA 4883, a fantastically gorgeous maskelynite-rich eucrite. The pools of maskelynite are awesome to look at through a microscope along with the rest of this beauty. Michael asked where one could see photos, click at this link and you will see the only remaining 20 pieces left with links to slices and micro close-ups: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4883%22category0= Thank you all who have purchased this truly fun meteorite from me. Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Greg Hupé's gorgeous NWA 4883 eucrite ... Any chance you might share a pic or two? Sounds interesting. Michael Murray micro hunter of SW Colorado __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Greg Hupé's gorgeous NWA 4883 eucrite ...
Hi Bernd, Jim, Michael and all who love exotic meteorites, Thank you Bernd for your great observations of NWA 4883, a fantastically gorgeous maskelynite-rich eucrite. The pools of maskelynite are awesome to look at through a microscope along with the rest of this beauty. Michael asked where one could see photos, click at this link and you will see the only remaining 20 pieces left with links to slices and micro close-ups: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4883%22category0= Thank you all who have purchased this truly fun meteorite from me. Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Greg Hupé's gorgeous NWA 4883 eucrite ... Any chance you might share a pic or two? Sounds interesting. Michael Murray micro hunter of SW Colorado __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Maskelynite-rich Eucrite Breccia NWA 4883 - AD
Dear List Members, I would like to let you know that my new Maskelynite-rich Polymict Eucrite, NWA 4883, eBay auctions will be ending late tomorrow night. There are about 29 specimens left, and when they are gone, I do not have any more. Most of the auctions have the Buy it Now feature so do not hesitate if you are interested in one. Here is the link to what is available: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4883%22 Here are links to photos of two different NWA 4883 slices: #1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/dsc4.jpg #2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/dsc00015.jpg NWA 4883 Images from a polished slice, magnification level indicated on lower left of photos: Possible vesicle or where metal has eroded away: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883ves.jpg Close-up of a eucritic clast next to matrix, interesting crystal structure: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag1.jpg High resolution of a different eucritic clast: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag2.jpg General matrix, could spend days exploring under a microscope! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag3.jpg In addition to this very special offering, I have several other auctions ending as well and can be seen at this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Happy Holidays! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 4883 Close-up Photos
Dear List and Maskelynite-rich eucrite lovers, In my busy week, and after writing the description for my new Maskelynite-rich Polymict Breccia Eucrite, NWA 4883, I forgot I had earlier taken some very close-up photos of interesting features on a slice. Here they are and worth a look: NWA 4883 Images from a polished slice, magnification level indicated on lower left of photos: Possible vesicle or where metal has eroded away: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883ves.jpg Close-up of a eucritic clast next to matrix, interesting crystal structure: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag1.jpg High resolution of a different eucritic clast: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag2.jpg General matrix, could spend days exploring under a microscope! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/nwa4883mag3.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Maskelynite-rich Eucrite Breccia NWA 4883 - AD
Dear List Members, I would like to announce a new and unique Maskelynite-rich Polymict Eucrite Breccia, NWA 4883. It is a highly shocked eucrite that was first thought to be paired to a known lunar meteorite and even looked lunar once cut and the slices held next to two other known lunar meteorite samples. It has clearish crystals popping out of the exterior, along with whitish clasts to really fool the eye into thinking it has to be lunar. I should name NWA 4883 The Chameleon because of the way it seems to mimic the characteristics of true lunars! Here are links to photos of two different NWA 4883 slices: #1 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/dsc4.jpg #2 http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4883/dsc00015.jpg I have loaded all that there is available of NWA 4883 on eBay late last night, most with Buy it Now. This one won't last because of its beauty and odd classification. Here is a direct link to just the NWA 4883 eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40_trksid=m37satitle=%22nwa+4883%22 In addition to this very special offering, I have many other auctions ending later this afternoon and can be seen at this link along with The Chameleon: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault There are too many excellent auctions to highlight here, but it is worth your time to check them out and pick up a great deal on a rare meteorite or even 1-kilo or 500-gram lots! Best regards and Thank You for looking at and/or bidding on my auctions. Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] holy grail of martian meteorites
Hello Steve and List, I would have to say NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite would be my own personal Holy Grail of Martian meteorites, not only because it is so fresh and beautiful, but because of the pure hell I had to go through to retrieve it from Western Sahara. You can read the story in the November 2006 issue of Meteorite Magazine, image on the cover as well :-) Click here for a 3D video 7MB (may take a couple minutes to load on your player): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Click here for a photo of a full slice: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] holy grail of martian meteorites Hi again list.With all the martain meteorites out there,I was wondering.What is the holy grail of all martain meteorites?ZAGAMI?LAFAYETTE?Any of the NWA'S?The DAG'S?DHOFARS?ALH 84001?I thought this might be a good thread to start.While I was at the bank last week,I was organizing my other collection and I was wondering what is the holy grail of martains?I have a 6.3 gram slice of D. A. G. 476 as my only martain.So it brought the above question.Any comments will be excitingly awaited. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another holy grail of martian meteorites
Hi List, To add to the fun, lets not forget one of my first trips to the Sahara to retrieve another favorite Martian, NWA 1195. An article I wrote about its recovery can be found in the August 2002 issue of Meteorite Magazine (page 20 with color photos!). Nice photo of NWA 1195 with the main masses of NWA 482 and NWA 998. Too many planetaries, too little time... Ah heck, bring 'em on and hopefully add more to our growing collection!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] holy grail of martian meteorites Hi again list.With all the martain meteorites out there,I was wondering.What is the holy grail of all martain meteorites?ZAGAMI?LAFAYETTE?Any of the NWA'S?The DAG'S?DHOFARS?ALH 84001?I thought this might be a good thread to start.While I was at the bank last week,I was organizing my other collection and I was wondering what is the holy grail of martains?I have a 6.3 gram slice of D. A. G. 476 as my only martain.So it brought the above question.Any comments will be excitingly awaited. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW LL3.7 - NWA 3161
Dear List Members, I would like to announce a new and gorgeous LL3.7, NWA 3161. I've had this for two years but am just now getting around to offering it. I listed 36 pieces on eBay yesterday and several have already sold. Look under my seller name, NaturesVault, and then scroll down to NWA 3161 LL3.7 to see what is available. There are six whole stones first and then the slices. Click here for my current eBay auctions to see these and all that I have to offer this week: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault I have auctions ending Wednesday, nearly half still at just 99 cents. I have larger planetary and other rarities started at just 99 cents with no reserve so this will be an early Christmas for many lucky bidders. Here are some highlights: NWA 4930 Martian Individuals at great values! (too many to list here, loaded after NWA 3161) NWA 482 Lunar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174205490ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 998 Nakhlite 512mg (Give yourself a present) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174205886ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1068 Martian http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174206299ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 Replica (Almost Out) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174206626ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 Martian Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174206977ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1877 Olivine Diogenite 14.1 grams http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174208349ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2828 EL3 Fossil (Infamous Meteorite still at 99 cents!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174212650ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2921 R3.8 (Giveaway Price) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174213955ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2999 Angrite (Still at 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174214479ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3136 Lunar Slice (Largest Piece I have Left) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174215438ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3151 Brachinite 468mg (Still at 99 Cents, just about FREE) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170174216475ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 I getting writer's cramp! There are many. many more great deals at nearly FREE prices, so be sure to check out all that I have by clicking here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Good luck winning that special something for your collection, or as a gift for a friend. Happy Holidays! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE)
Dear Jeff, Philippe and Martin, Thank you all for your contributions to this discussion regarding NWA 2828 EL3 (Aubrite?) and all of its pairings (named or otherwise). I can certainly see where all of the confusion lays with this one, I was directly involved from the beginning and was in Layounne myself. What I do not get is when a scientist is offered supporting, or non-supporting data but completely ignores it from the other scientists who have spend much time on it. If this meteorite was a breccia and part of it appears to be an aubrite and the other part(s) appear to be EL/3, can it be classified as an Aubrite/EL3-6 or something like that? If the name Al Haggnounia 001 has been officially accepted for this material, shouldn't all of the NWA assignments then also be called the same since scientific data (GPS, etc.) were obtained? I am only trying to understand this whole mess with this one. I have plenty as well as many others so that is not the issue. This is one occurrence where the world-wide classifying scientists need to cooperate with each other and get it done. There is not a national pride issue going on, or at least I do not think so. I know the US scientists offered the others the data but it was refused for one reason or another. I do not think refusal of help is any way to accomplish the end result here. This could very well be one of the most important (or at least interesting) finds, asreroidly-speaking. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Philippe Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE) Dear Greg and all, It is not usual for me to participate in the debates because by experience often these remain sterile and my level of English does not allow me to make me understood completely. Here is that I have to say as comment of this meteorite: First, all the Moroccan having a relationship with the business of meteorites know Al Haggounia's strewnfield (Western Sahara not Algeria) for a long time before that you and I let us be dealers of meteorites. At this time, nobody was certain that he can involve a meteorite, the knowledge of Moroccan were not the one from now and it is necessary to say that first sight has it is not evident to recognize a meteorite in this material. The first analyzed pieces and declared numbers were classified EL6, E6 and the first one which has been classified as an aubrite was the NWA 2736. This classification launched a new rush on Al Haggounia, and hundreds of kilos of this material met itself has Erfoud. In April, 2006, when I met my Moroccan partner in Erfoud, he showed me several hundreds of kilos of this material in bags which had just arrived from Western Sahara. In these hundreds of kilos, I chose carefully several kilos of all the representative parts of this meteorite to give them later to Albert Jambon. As well as Fred Beroud, Ali Hmani and Ait Ouzrou, who agreed to make a common declaration rather than multiply the numbers NWA, supplied a big quantity of material to Albert Jambon. I think that Albert Jambon is the most qualified person to describe this meteorite. Before subjecting his declaration he went up an expedition to go on the spot in association with the other French and Moroccan scientists. The strewnfield as described by Albert Jambon and others scientists who participated in the expedition is a classic strewnfield, an ellipse 40 km long with the also classic distribution of the big and small pieces. On the strewnfield the geologists make the dating of the ground and all the analyses to describe the strewnfield. They found themselves several pieces of this meteorite. In Laayoune, Albert Jambon also saw several hundreds of kilos of this meteorite with Moroccan involved in the search on the strewnfield. What gives approximately 3 tons for this meteorite if we add the various pairings. There is no doubt, and I believe that everybody agrees, that all this material NWA and Al Haggounia 001 with different results of analysis is the same. It was classified EL6, E6, aubrite, EL6 / 7, EL3... Three different laboratories have classified this meteorite as an aubrite. For the owners of a part of this meteorite which supplied the typical sample has a scientist so that he made the analysis, there is no reason for not believing the scientist in question whom he has to trust in the quality of his work it is a question of respect. In this case, in which we are certain that it is about the same meteorite, the various classifications raise naturally a problem. The important
[meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (NOT AUBRITE)
Dear Frederic, Matteo and List Members, Al Haggounia 001(NWA 4420), NWA 2828 and the other Fossil EL3's are NOT, I repeat, NOT aubrites. I wish they were, I have many, many kilos of NWA 2828. At first when just the type sample was tested, it came back as an aubrite, no chondrules were found. After cutting more of the NWA 2828 material I had, I began to find these funny round things and I thought, Oh no, these are chondrules, this can not be an aubrite. I then sent more sample material in to have tested and sure enough, they WERE chondrules. Unfortunately I had not cut the material for sale until the classification and abstract were approved. After the chondrules were found and confirmed by several US scientists, a revised classification and abstract were submitted. The abstract was approved, see here: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K but the NWA 2828 classification was not changed by the Meteoritical Society in the bulletin (not sure why this is, any one out there who can address this?). The classifying scientist who studied NWA 4420 Al Haggounia, Dr. Jambon, refused scientific data supporting the EL3 classification from the US scientists and classified the sample he had as an aubrite. This material IS THE SAME AS NWA 2828, the now infamous EL3 Fossil (Paleo) meteorite! I do not know if Al Haggnounia is trying to be wished into being an aubrite, but IT IS NOT!!! Those who have sent Dr. Jambon sample material need to send him and other scientists more samples that show the true makeup of this meteorite. In other words, send samples with those funny round things so the classification can be made correctly. When new data and evidence is presented, it is up to the dealers AND the scientists to do the right thing. To error is OK as long as a correction is made as in the case of NWA 2828, hence the title of the revised abstract, EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) Northwest Africa 2828: An Unusual Paleo-meteorite Occurring as Cobbles in a Terrestrial Conglomerate. See here: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K I wish NWA 2828 was an aubrite, but an EL3 Fossil meteorite is pretty cool too. Anyone want an excellent deal on some nice and clean NWA 2828 stones? Respectfully, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: meteoriteshow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (AUBRITE) Dear Listees, Sorry, the links where cut in my previous post. So please just find them (I hope this time uncut) hereunder: 1/ Al Haggounia 001 / Meteoritical Society: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?sfor=namescateg=Aubritesmblist=92 2/ Al Haggounia 001 for sale on Meteoriteshow web site: http://meteoriteshow.free.fr/meteoriteshow%20fra/pages%20navigation/pieces_en_vente-fra.htm#NWA4420 kind regards, Frederic Beroud IMCA #2491 www.meteoriteshow.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanksgiving and Thank You
Dear List Members, I would like to offer a very Happy Thanksgiving to all of our American collectors. Thanksgiving may be an American holiday, but I would like to extend to all of my friends and clients throughout the world a hearty Thanks for all of your past , present and future business with me. I truly appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Giveaway Prices - Auctions Ending - AD
Dear List Members, Tomorrow I have many excellent eBay auctions ending at giveaway values, many still at just 99 cents, including some angrite and even planetary specimens. I only have 62 auctions currently running so it will be easy to find that special present for yourself. They can all be seen under my seller name, NaturesVault, or by clicking here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault This is a great chance to pick up a nice rarity for pennies on the dollar!! Best regards and Thank You for bidding and/or looking! Greg P.S. Happy Thanksgiving!! Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Plenty of Planetary ending Today - AD
-kilo Lots, NWA 4528 500-gram Lots, Unclassified 2-kilo Lots. Too many to list, go check 'em out under, NaturesVault. If you are bidding, Good Luck, and if you are not, enjoy the photos!! Best regards and Thank You for bidding with me, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Plenty of Planetary - AD
Dear List Members, I have just loaded many eBay auctions, plenty of them being planetary. Of special notice are two complete slices of NWA 2995, a gorgeous lunar breccia. I polished one of the slices I had and have made it, another complete slice and a couple other smaller pieces available on eBay. I do not believe there are any other polished slices available due to the large amount of polishing losses. This is a must-see, and even more of a Must-Have! Here are direct eBay links to these and several others, all of which are available by me under seller name, NaturesVault, and will end either with Buy it Now or next Wednesday. Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault NWA 2995 Feldspathic Breccia Lunar: 12.9 gram POLISHED Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167063973ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 17.4 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167066218ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 170mg Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167067666ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 16mg Pieces (started at 99 cents) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167068352ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite: 1.388 gram End Cut http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167069823ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 526mg Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167070571ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1068 Picritic Shergottite: 5.322 gram Complete Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167071419ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4527 Shergottite (Only 2 Left!): 298mg Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167104500ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 248mg Part Slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167104760ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 482 - Small but from the Moon! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167072009ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 998 Nakhlite - Small but from Mars! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167072871ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 Martian 186mg http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167073294ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 Replica (Very few left!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167074134ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2200 Lunar Breccia 1.046g (LAST ONE!!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167076608ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3136 Lunar (Low TKW, running out) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167083694ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3160 Olivine-Phyric-Mare-Basalt Lunar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167087316ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3163 Feldspathic Granulite Lunar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167087939ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3171 Martian 136mg http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167088448ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167089332ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Dhofar 019 Part Slice 360mg http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167094511ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NEA 001 Anorthositic Regolith Lunar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167094917ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Angrites - Maybe from Mercury, the Jury is Out: NWA 2999 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167082152ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4590 Tamassint http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167092448ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4801 Plutonic 354mg http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170167092631ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 In addition to these fantastic planetary meteorites, I have loaded everything else under the meteoritic rainbow including; NWA 2952 CK4 Slices, Bassikounou Individuals, Mali Stone (only 2 left), NWA 869 1-kilo Lots, NWA 4528 500-gram Lots, Unclassified 2-kilo Lots. Too many to list, go check 'em out under, NaturesVault. If you are bidding, Good Luck, and if you are not, enjoy the photos!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Impact Items, Must See !! - AD
Dear List Members, After seeing the Claxton Mailbox sell for over $82,000.00 (buyer's premium added) minus the door, we felt there may be some collector interest in other man-made items struck by a meteorite. My brother, Adam and I mainly collect by rare type so these impacted items do not really fit our collection purposes although they are awesome. This being said, we decided to make a few items available to those who invest in such items. Not to worry, although these items were extremely difficult to acquire, we will accept any reasonable offer on the two items listed below. Please keep in mind that the Claxton mailbox demonstrates that sometimes these investments can pay off handsomely. First Item: A well-documented complete Civilizations game with all of the contents still in the box from the Navarro household that was hammered during the Park Forest fall. It is ironic that the meteorite would strike a new game called Civilizations since many believe that a meteorite impact cleared the way for humankind by wiping out the dinosaurs. The meteorite shower also hit a heavily civilized area that many referred to as the urban strewn-field. There is nothing in the world impacted by a meteorite like this! Image of room showing meteorite impact aftermath. Note the game on the floor next to filing cabinet: http://themeteoritesite.com/Room.jpg The Game: Civilizations game: http://themeteoritesite.com/Gamebox.jpg Close up of Civilizations game box showing evidence of the impact in way of skid marks: http://themeteoritesite.com/GameBoxCloseUp.JPG Item two: Here are some images of the roof shingle with a hole punched clean through from the Navarro house. This would make a great addition to any Hammer Stone collection: http://themeteoritesite.com/NavarroShingle.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/NavarroShingleCloseup.JPG In addition to these two wonderful hammer items, I have my weekly eBay auctions ending tomorrow, many still at just 99 cents. Here are just a few of the most special choices: NWA 482 Lunar VERY Shocked 770mg Slice (AWESOME, AWESOME - MUST SEE!!!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162317516ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 Martian (Going for Pennies!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162321039ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3136 Lunar Slice (Give-Away Price) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162331771ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3151 Brachinite Slice (Still at a Buck!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162334758ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3163 Lunar (Nearly FREE) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162336733ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3171 Martian (LOW LOW) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162337093ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4587 - Paired to NWA 011 (Still at 99 cents!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162339960ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4590 Tamassint (Almost a Donation) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162340254ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Last 2 Mali Meteorites: 601 gram Individual (Great Features) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162194594ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 257 gram Individual (The Start of Orientation) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162194958ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 There are much more still at just 99 cents and some very choice pieces of Bassikounou. Click here to see all that I currently have available: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault I will not be loading new auctions tomorrow since I will be out of town hitting the Treasure Coast where I found my Spanish doubloon and dozens of silver coins three years ago from the 1715 Treasure Fleet. Tropical storm Noel is already causing much beach erosion, perfect for finding the elusive booty hidden deep under the sand. I will not be able to answer any emails for a day or two but will answer any as quick as I can. Good luck with your bidding and I look forward to any offers for the amazing Park Forest impact hammer items. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for Jim Schwade
Good afternoon List, I am looking for Jim Schwade's email address. Can anyone send me his email address off List? I appreciate your help. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - Delete
Testing, please delete. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lodranite vs ACAP
Dear List, Not trying to put a damper on the flowing champagne, but I am hearing conflicting thoughts from different scientists regarding the rules of whether a meteorite should be classified as an ACAP or a Lodranite. I know it is grain size, but this is where I am hearing different references. Does anyone, Jeff Grossman, Bernd, or others have scientific documents that are accepted by the NomCom that clearly show the rules and guidelines? The more the better to see if there are discrepancies in what has been adopted. What is the average grain size for the ACAP grouping being discussed: NWA 2656 NWA 2699 NWA 2714 NWA 2866 NWA 2871 NWA 2989 NWA 4399 and others. Thank you for any light that can be shed on this subject. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the new Lodranite confusion
Hello Martin, Zelimir and List, Your efforts with the ACAP (Lodranite?) new classification is appreciated by all I am sure. I can say that NWA 4478, the Brecciated Lodranite I have, is not paired to the large list of re-classified ACAPs you have put together. First, NWA 4478 is a low metal type and brecciated. A quick comparison to the NWA 4236 photos you posted for Andi: 1) www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Acapulco1.jpg 2) www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Acapulco2.jpg NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (Easily not paired to the large ACAP 'Lodranite?' grouping): http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4478/nwa4478slice.jpg Sentence from NWA 4478 classification:, The modal abundance of metal (+ limonite after primary metal) measured by BSE imaging on a large polished slice is 5 vol.%. I think it is imperative to have Ted Bunch at NAU re-examine all of the ACAPs in the grouping and do a side-by-side study, this would truly be the best way to determine pairings and if they are lodranites. I hope this helps a little. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Zelimir Gabelica' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] the new Lodranite confusion Hi Zelimir, that almost all those Acaps and now lodranites (yippie) belong together, we reconstructed all together here on the list a while back, guess 1-2 years ago. (Also finding out, that it's quite unlikely compared to the very few Antarctic Acap-groups, the fall stats and the find stats, that there suddenly should appear a dozen different ACAPs from Sahara). Therefore I invited now all involved, that we should try to set the pieces of the puzzle together as far as we can - hopefully without animosities, as the collectors, dealers, maybe scientists would profit all. As you mentioned, Zelimir, those ACAPs with low shock level and weathering degrees of W3,W3-4 are concerned, which often appeared within a shorter time frame from desert paradise. NWA 2656 Oakes.Bulletin: has 356g, broken from a larger mass of 7.5kg NWA 2714 Birdsell/Oakes. 1656g Bulletin: Paired with 2565, stems also according the owners from the same 7.5kg mass. NWA 2699 owner unknown 1294g Bulletin: Paired with NWA 2656 NWA 2866 owner not mentioned 213g Bulletin: paired with NWA 2656 NWA 2871 Reed 3467g Bulletin: Paired with NWA 2656, according Turecki, part of the 7.5kg mass. NWA 2989 Hupe 77g believed by the owner to be paired with NWA 2656 NWA 2775 ReedTurecki 222g nothing known, some say it's the same, some not. NWA 4399 Ralew 210g Bulletin: May be paired with NWA 2627 There we are sure, that it's the same stuff as 2656/2714/2871.. and cause we have some slices left, it should be no problem to get it fixed. NWA 2627 Strope/Farmer 68g nothing known Jim/Mike help! Hence so far, I guess we can say: Officially paired are: NWA 2656, NWA 2699, NWA 2714, NWA 2866, NWA 2871 type specimens of all at NAU (Bunch,Wittke) NWA 2989 is still listed as provisional, no big deal to check the pairing, because type specimen is at Bunch, says data base. Owner says probably paired. NWA 2775 there also the type specimen is at NAU, so a pairing, if exist, could be established there. Here we can be happy, that Blaine owns a part, as Turecki went into hiding, leaving many dealers unpaid. NWA 2627 also at NAU, so... NWA 4399 - there we a sure, the type specimens are in Berlin, but we will take care, that it gets officialized. Others: NWA 1052 and 1054, do not belong to that group, they are much more fresh and fine-grained. NWA 2235 Fectay 64g is definitely to fresh with W1 --- Finally left to be excluded or added to the big main pairing group, where I don't know nothing about, respectively others will know more and better: NWA 725 Fectay 3824g NWA 1617 Oakes 21g (UWS) NWA 3008 Burkhard 157g (Hamburg) NWA 4236 Herkstroeter 24g (Hamburg) NWA 4478 Hupe 444g (UWS) Four of the holders are here on the list, so please help all together! The data I took from the Bulletin database, the other information from the discussion last year, so please, no choler necessary, we all only want to pot Humpty together again and to clear the number mess. (Uhh if one thinks, that the new Martians now around will get almost a dozen numbers...). And, if the last not yet checked for a pairing will have been compared and com-paired, then we will all hope, that it will be added to the Bulletins. Cheers! Martin PS: Zelimir, we checked it back, with the chondrite, you must have mixed something up. It's an L6, still under classification and not ready yet. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
[meteorite-list] Moroccan Influence or Pairings
Hi Dirk and List, A lot of the pairing problems originate directly from the Moroccan dealers. Case in point, the Martian material paired to NWA 2975. They distributed the material inmasse during the Ensisheim Show to a lot of people. If the original Moroccan dealers (Aziz Habibi and Mohamed Sabai) waited and submitted a full type sample, received an NWA number, then the could have offered it under a single correct number. Another example of which I am directly aware of is a 5 or 6 kilo single stone ureilite I received a sample from, had analyzed, and then personally saw while in Morocco last year. I was not interested in it due to price and let it go. Next time I saw it again was at the Tucson Show where it had been smashed into a half dozen pieces by a Moroccan and offered to several US dealers/collectors. That stone was a beautifully clean and shaped ureilite, what a waste! The more the Moroccans get involved in direct sales to collectors, I feel they need to abide by the NomCom rules and moral high standards of what meteorite science and collecting is all about. Unfortunately, most Moroccans consider these stones as a meal ticket. In some cases, like the nomads who actually find them, this is the case, but once they arrive in Morocco's dealership row, there are no excuses since they often send samples to us and some scientists for analysis. These are a few of my observations, thoughts and complaints of Moroccan behavior. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault .Yeah, wait until the mess/mass of NWA martian classification numbers and pairing that will be done after this recent find of fresh NWA Martians. In my opinion it is a waste of scientific resource to have each holder/buyer/seller submit under a separate NWA# and then pairing has to be done. Pair the things then assign one official number all at the same lab with the same scientist and don`t pass off extra material that you cannot sell without a number so that someone else is left to have it classified again with an additional NWA #. I am not saying that anyone has done this...it is purely my opinion that number games need to cease and that priority should be given to supporting the scientists to get proper information, so that timely classification and recording in the MetBull can be completed within months and not years. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] morrocan and americain influence on pairing
Hello Habibi, You asked why I purchased some of the Martian material from you in Ensisheim. Simple, I wanted some for my collection and to offer some to others. I will have an NWA number for all of my pieces soon and then I will offer some. As far as the Moroccan influence in pairing issues, if you waited until you received an NWA number for your batch of Martian material than a dozen people would not have to get a dozen different NWA numbers. You have the chance to do things right as far as this goes so why create such a problem. Adam offered his material to a world market but all his material has one NWA number, not a dozen like in the Moroccan marketing plan. There is a big difference. I am not blaming you or trying to start an argument, I am simply trying to point out to you and other Moroccans what should be done since Moroccans are going after the collector market. This brings up another point, if the Moroccans want to keep their long-term largest wholesale customers, they should not play both sides of the fence by selling to dealers and then turning right around and selling directly to dealer's same customers. You will lose big time buyers with this kind of behavior. Again, not picking on you directly, just pointing out the obvious. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: morrocan and americain influence on pairing hello list memeber and greg. concerning the problem of pairing, 1=it's not a morrocan problem , it's a world problem. 2= see here your brother adam hupe is sellling this martian you are talking about without nwa number too, he have submited a type sample excelent ,but he has not an nwa number so why is he selling without nwa number.no offense greg this is just to show you that also americain dealer can do the same. 3= you bought from me 10.88 gr from this martian in enseshiem, if you thing it's not good behaviourismes why you did bought from me than.at the time you didn't think to the moral.you did think offer and demande. 4= see here an email posted in this list from your brother selling this martian without nwa number. on the 13/08/2007. i know he get an nwa number later , but at the time he didn't have it, so why he didn't wait. so he did behave like i did . 5= with all my respect to the collector and dealers . the problem is depending on how fast you can get an nwa number,and how fast you can sell. there was many nwa dealers and world dealer selling in this show without nwa number. i think we should stop here more exaplanation are not always good. this is not a personnal problem but it's a structural problem.that concern labs and scientists behaviourismes.formel and informel. i would like to sell all the time with nwa number but it's not always easy , because we are whole sale dealers and i sell to many dealer and colletors that want to have there name on lunar and martian classification , i respect that; i do not like to discuss more on the subject. because i do not want to answer each email that might concern me or concern morroco. but i completly agree that each meteorite must be sold with an nwa numbers. and The more the Moroccans get involved in direct sales to collectors , the more the collectors they get good deals and cheap deals. so the problem is in the near futur many world dealers will not be able to make money enough dealing with morroco , than morrocan dealers will supply the market directly, we can't help it , its the market . sincerly aziz the habibi adam hupe wrote the 13/08/2007. ORIENTED MARTAIN SHERGOTTITE - 32.3 gram nearly completed crusted individual with flow-lines. This is part of the recent discovery that has been on the market lately. Unlike most dealers, this piece has been confirmed along with 34 other very small individuals in my collection by the University of Washington, a type specimen has been deposited and a unique number will be assigned when all of the scientists return from Tucson. In the long run, official stones are worth far more and it is very expensive doing the right thing by donating 20% to science. Please keep this in mind when making an offer. I have only seen one other oriented stone from this fall ever offered and it is very difficult to come up with a complete stone not a fragment. I will accept the first offer over $400.00 a gram! http://themeteoritesite.com/Martian-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/Martian-b.jpg Thank you for looking. habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 _ Ne
[meteorite-list] Great Deals ending Today - AD
Dear List Members, Starting in about four hours I have many excellent auctions ending, including the best priced Bassikounou individuals. These and more can be found under my eBay seller name, NaturesVault, or click here for a listing of all that I currently have available: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault List of some outstanding deals: Bassikounou Individuals (Best Prices!!) - Too many to list here. NWA 869 1-kilo Lots - Too many to list here. NWA 2952 CK4 Slices (starting to go fast) - Too many to list here. NWA 4527 H5 500-gram Lots - Too many to list here. Mali Meteorite (Last 3 Individuals - Best Prices) 601g Individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162194594ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 519g Individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162194750ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 257g Individual http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170162194958ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces): 1) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159926267ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 2) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159926517ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 998 Nakhlite 414mg (Give-away price) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159982435ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 999 Eucrite (LAST ONE) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159983432ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 1195 310mg (Such a LOW price!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159984222ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2200 Lunar 1.046g (LAST ONE) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159986400ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 2999 202mg (Almost FREE!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159990694ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3136 Lunar 160mg (Running Out) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159992103ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3151 Brachinite 336mg (Way Low) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159993597ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3160 Lunar (Low Low) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159994878ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3163 Lunar (Give-away Price) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159995519ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 3171 Martian 364mg (Almost Out) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159995871ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4468 Martian (Almost FREE) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159996498ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4481 Ureilite (Last Two Pieces) 1) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159997262ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 2) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159997487ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4587 Ungrouped - Paired to NWA 011 (Cool Meteorite) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159998418ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (A Great Value) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159998748ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Dhofar 908 Lunar 2.99g (Buy it Now) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=170159998748ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 Dhofar 1085 Lunar 2.03g (Buy it Now) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=17015914ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 NEA 001 Lunar (Pennies on the Dollar!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=17016229ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=007 There are many more excellent deals to be had, too many to list in this email. It is truly a buyer's market. Click here for a listing of all that I currently have available: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault Thank you for bidding with me, I appreciate it! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ...mali or Algeria ...
Hi Doug and List, I believe I read in one of the bulletins, ...'Amgala' and its synonym, Oum Dreyga If someone can find that, it would show that the MetSoc does accept these occurrences in names. Amgala was adapted first because that is where the fall was first discovered and I think it is where it started to fall, the larger pieces being found towards Oum Dreyga. So, should a fall be named for where it started falling or where the majority of material was collected? Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] ...mali or Algeria ... Greg wrote: Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. Hi Greg, List, Oum Dreyga is an interesting sounding name. Does anyone know what it means? As an amateur astronomer I would guess, The Mother of the Dragon. I am confused by Greg's comment which strongly supports the continuing usage of the accepted name Amgala. Does the Meteoritical Society agree in having two official names for any named fall or find for that matter? (They don't according to the MetSoc/USGS online database) Or do you mean accepted in the sense of, e.g., calling Brenham the Haviland meteorite just because some fell in Haviland too? This is not a Gao-Guenie situation as both of those names were published due to poor field documentation and later officially merged to straighten out the perplexing research situation. In that case, they may be called Gao the way I rationalize this, as a shorthand for the full name for those that have some sentimental attachment to them: like Greg for Gregory or Doug for Douglas. I just looked at an attractive, representative fully crusted specimen of Amgala at http://chicagometeorites.net/id48.html , and chided the enthusiastic owner about the name (he courteously obliged by adding Oum Dreyga in parens). I now remembered this post you made recently to Aziz. Honestly, I'm now confused after rereading it when I thought I was ok before. I have two beautiful Amgala stones I got from The Hupé Collection. Googling Amgala I find many sites where collectors and hunters are going to lenghts to explain that this is the same meteorite, and often Amgala is bolder with Oum Dreyga in parenthesis or below in the text. Is that meteoritically cool? I vaugely remember the Hupé Collection Team was among the first to research this meteorite and mentioned Amgala was only a provisional working name that was subject to change and therefore should not be used until it was properly documented. If I am remembering correctly great, anyways, I totally agree with that regarding the change. Certainly some casual collectors will have both Oum Dreyga and Amgala specimens and think they have two different falls. Is there any special reason all serious collectors shouldn't strive to lose these unofficial synonyms, as our useful contributions to meteoritics, which includes taxonomy, or at least mention that they are unofficial synonyms, outdated, products of premature marketing (by everyone in the rythm of today's world), or just unofficial marketing names for Oum Dreyga? If Carancas turns out to be Huanocollo, or Desaguadero; Mali becomes Algeria, etc., I think we all have a proud responsability to support proper nomenclature for authentic specimens. I would appreciate your thoughtful opinion on the best way to keep the nomenclature under control in the collectors' arena - and to help clean up what I personally perceive as a bad precedent in progress. Thanks kindly and best wishes, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hi Martin, You wrote, We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. I simply stated do not use my numbers and to get your own numbers before stating pairings. Just keepin' it real. Best regards, Greg P.S I have plenty of NWA 4473, cut/polished and individuals. I supplied Michael Cottingham with his 4473. Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473
Hello Martin, Must be a show coming up soon (Munich), otherwise, why all the targeted talk of pairings? Maybe you have something else paired to one of mine that you are itching to announce? For fun, with some of my own 'new' classifications, maybe you will have a new goal to try and find a pairing to them. That would be a good thing since what I will be announcing soon enough would be very, very nice for your collection. I should consider your posturing as a form of flattery, so that is how I will take it. Go get 'em, tiger! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Greg Hupe' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 In our case it was different, as we always had our own numbers and are no selfpairers. So if it's no problem any longer, we can state known pairings again. Best, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Greg Hupe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Oktober 2007 23:27 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Martin, You wrote, We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. I simply stated do not use my numbers and to get your own numbers before stating pairings. Just keepin' it real. Best regards, Greg P.S I have plenty of NWA 4473, cut/polished and individuals. I supplied Michael Cottingham with his 4473. Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hi Bernd, I can confirm, that NWA 4808 and 4473 are paired (were classified at the same place). We didn't know, how to act correctly, as the owner of 4473, insisted in spring, that he wished, that we never should mention paired material in his possession or his name in our Ads. Like he seems to do too, when he has material for sale paired with ours, if I look here and there into ebay. NWA 4808 isn't listed in the Bulletin yet, therefore that little dilemma. Anyway it is fascinating material. Additionally to the observations you made, this meteorite has some more unusual aspects. So no eucritic components were found in those stones, but fragments of three different diogenitic precursors. Therefore it must have a somewhat unusual impact history. Our special was sold out the same day, we found a few more slices in our stock, now only 3 or 4 small ones are left. As small as NWA 4808 was, it was quite heterogeneous, macroscopically the slices were quite different from each other. If someone is looking for larger surfaces, I saw Mike Cottingham having NWA 4473 on ebay some weeks ago, perhaps he has some left. Am I the only one, who can't await, that Dawn will arrive at Vesta? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 20:07 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 4808 Diogenite Breccia and NWA 4473 Hello again, I just see that my piece of the NWA 4473 polymict diogenite that I purchased from Greg Hupé has some resemblance to NWA 4808 and both diogenites may possibly be paired. The only difference is that the crystal faces of the orthopyroxene mineral clasts in NWA 4473 are less well developed (in my piece!). In oher words, most pyroxene cystals in my NWA 4473 piece are anhedral and a few are subhedral. Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New 360* images of some crazy stuff
Hi Marcin, Nice videos! I can say with 100% certainty that your number MC 046 is paired to my Plutonic Eucrite Breccia I had a couple years ago, NWA 3159. It is one of my favorite meteorites. Great find! See photo of mine here: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3159/nwa3159.jpg Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New 360* images of some crazy stuff Hi I play tooday again with my meteorites and digital camera. I made some new, larger 360* images. Each around 1MB so be patient when downloading. News include * Murchison * NWA 4560 LL3.1 * MC 044 - new, crazy LL3, unique, but I will not show it yet. * MC 046 - plutonic eucrite, something that You never seen before. * MC 047 - 26g fresh mars sample and now hidden Google AD :) I have new mars specimens complete and cut samples. But this time much more and this material is under classification, so You not buy NWA xxx but fully classified material (soon). 360* Photos: comments, opinions, bug reports highly recommended. http://www.PolandMET.com -- new submenu from left-bottom -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind!!!!!
Hey Walter, If, and when, this is determined to be a fall (they all are, aren't they), there will be no borrowing of names, numbers or otherwise. Is everyone borrowing other names like Park Forest (fall), Amgala (fall), Gold Basin (find), Canyon Diablo (find), Mounionalusta (find), etc. etc. Please get off my back on this and wait for the results. I have been contacted by those close to this and the research by non-Moroccans is under way. Yes, it is real scientific work so please drop whatever crusade you are doing here. Respectfully (again), Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! There would be no borrowing of numbers since it would have a name assigned. Okay, would you borrow someone else's name? -Walter - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hi Walter, There would be no borrowing of numbers since it would have a name assigned. The Moroccans who post to this List and have offered some of this material to members have indicated they had sent in a sample. As Anne stated, this is the most perfect time for the Moroccans to step up and contribute to science. I can't think of a better thing to do instead of leaving it to us foreigners to do it for them. They have the resources now, I strongly suggest they use them for the good of science and themselves. Respectfully, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hi Greg, because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. Your not going to borrow someone else's NWA number, are you? Sorry, just had to ask :-) -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall orafind! Hello Aziz, I have heard the two different names referring to the Mali material also. Is the material found in both regions or was it seen entering the atmosphere in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind! Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Hello Steve and List, Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being offering for such a good price (...starting so low). Easy, I (for one) was able to obtain it for an very fair price from my long time sources and can offer that to collectors. It is as simple as that. Good luck getting that special piece for your collection. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali
Hello Mike and List, The crust is very similar, but after cutting the different ones at the same time Friday (photo I posted showing all three together), There are some major and not so major differences. You would have to see a polished face in person by hand and a microscope. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali I would say that the fact that there is more than 100 kilos and every Moroccan has some helps. I know that many kilos will be in Munich, my friends are bringing hundreds of stones. I can't wait to see them, then perhaps can see the difference between them and Bassikounou that photos can not show. Michael Farmer I guess no French-speaking list members found any information in Mali or Algerian newspapers? --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Steve and List, Steve asks why this new Mali fall material is being offering for such a good price (...starting so low). Easy, I (for one) was able to obtain it for an very fair price from my long time sources and can offer that to collectors. It is as simple as that. Good luck getting that special piece for your collection. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali Good morning list.Just a thought on this new mali fall.I have seen thru different meteorite dealers on both sides of the ocean,that the price per gram on this new fall is really low.Uusally new falls start out high and go thru the roof in the beginning.Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts from the list? steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! The Asteroid Belt! Chicagometeorites.net Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/199 Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind!!!!!
Hello Aziz, I have heard the two different names referring to the Mali material also. Is the material found in both regions or was it seen entering the atmosphere in both areas (the bolide)? Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one. As far as sending a sample of the Mali meteorite in, the answer is no because in an earlier email you had stated that you or someone you referred to had sent the sample in. I only had a limited amount of material and all was too nice to cut except the smaller piece I cut for comparison reason to show List members. Someone asked to buy that piece for their collection so I accommodated them. Which Moroccan sent in the type sample so we can expect the results. Thank you, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Abdelaziz Alhyane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] price per gram on mali or Algeria a fall or afind! Hello Everybody, Something wrong is going on here, I guess who is selling cheaper will regret how much he missed, this is a great meteorite if we talk about a rock from space, do not talk about crater smoke This new (fall/find) is better than for ex carancas which is selling for $100, does anybody here knows the TKW? why to say 100 or 100t, do someone here weighed it? Or just talk blablabla, (there's more than 100k )do not try try to correct a mistake and say anything in order to get a smile, or do not lie to get very cheaper from a person who is really poor and afraid to lose his 1000 boxes. A meteorite fell on July; june... 2007, who saw it, and where is the huge fire ball passed over adrar( Algeria) last year, you'd say , Bassikounou, I say no! Bassi didn't take this way, Maybe this one ??!! what about the weathering grade? is this fresher than some gorgeous Bassi's peices ? no. the very small peices are shown in the begenning together with the larger ones, that not happened with Bassi and Amgala. For you steve, Tell me the fact please, who told you that this meteorite is similar to Bassi ? when did you discover it ? Greg, did you send a sample to be identified and share the results with us? I saw you used the name of CHERGACH, I was told Magtaa Lafrayss, which location is correct? Mali or Algeria ? something wrong is going on here, try to find out a solution to this puzzle. That's ma thinking, Thanks Aziz --- habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steve wrote Everyone is out to get it right away,than as time goes on it goes lower and so forth.But this fall is starting very low.A $1.25 per gram,$2,$2.50,$3 per gram and so on.There must be alot of this fall.But the question is: WHY IS IT STARTING SO LOW?Nothing has not even been determined yet what it is.Again any thoughts ... . well steve , if the price of te new fall continue in this trend than the limit of f(X), goes in negatifs side, than in few days the new mali falls will cost (-2.5$°) than - 3$ than -5$. anssi de suite, etc so steve you should wait and in a week not more , morrocan dealer will give you the stone for menos ( - 600$ )you was going to spend. than you have the new fall and some money . every body should wait. but it's not my cases. i take you for your words someone offered you the new fall for 1.25$ or 1.5$ or more i want to buy; so here you have a chance steve to make some money. please i want 20 kilos for 1.25 or 1.5$. can you supllie me now, show me photo, where are this stones ;.. so i m going to buy, go ahead and show us the photo of this meteorite.and what was offered to you for this price. im waiting aziz habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170 _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net
