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Good afternoon Folks, Unlike the late 1990's and early to mid 2000's, I rarely sell meteorite specimens any more. But after a hiatus of nearly a decade, I’ve decided to offer a handful of truly choice meteorite specimens which I have acquired over the years, for the discriminating collector---some of which are rarely if ever seen, and a couple that are literally, all but unattainable. 1. A TYPE COLLECTOR’S TREASURE: NWA 4530, W0/1, S1, an intensely rare Anomalous CO3.05 Polymict Carbonaceous Chondrite found in Algeria in 2006. The TKW was 35.9 grams, consisting of the main mass, a 7.186 gram type sample removed from the main mass, and five fragments from that main mass which broke off on impact and which fit together like a puzzle. Several years ago I purchased all but the main mass and the type sample. Here are a couple of quotes from the primary researchers of this meteorite: “NWA 4530 is the most pristine early solar system material I have ever seen.” “There are no CO3.05s or CO3.0s or even CO3.1s that are as pristine (W/0) as NWA 4530… a unique and important meteorite!” I now offer these incredible specimens to you. 2.872g with 25% fusion crust: $650.00 .718 g with 10% fusion crust: $200.00 .224 g with 25% fusion crust: 125.00 .208 g with 25% fusion crust: $100 .016 g with about 50% fusion crust: $30 Please EMAIL ME FOR PHOTOS of these magnificent specimens, as well as additional information. 2. Brenham PAL 131g half slice, 135 X 130 X 3 mm ( very minor surface oxidation---fully intact slice) $275.00 3. Albin PAL 7.24g $200.00 4. Gebel Kamil Iron 100.56g individual---nice $70.00 5. Las Palmas Variety of Campo Del Cielo, Iron 377g $125.00 6. Stunning Canyon Diablo, Iron 1353g (three pounds) 118 X 68 X 70mm. Uncleaned with nice desert varnish. Included are brochures I picked up while visiting the impact site 18 months ago. $500.00 Shipping will be $10.00 in the lower 48. 7. Super Rare LUNARCalcalong Creek. More than a decade ago I bought some of this rare meteorite from Rob Elliot in the UK. I sold out of it on eBay within hours of listing it at upwards of $350,000 per gram. I was able to acquire a small fragment from Anne Black a couple of years ago and am letting it go, reluctantly. Despite using a gram scale accurate to .002g, I am only able to estimate the mass of this specimen at 2mg to 4mg because the scale gives both measures during weighing. This specimen is also beautiful under magnification! 8. Rare Berthoud meteorite, Witnessed fall of October 5, 2004, at 1:30 PM, a meteorite fall was witnessed in Berthoud, Colorado, and landing only 100 feet from a young girl and her family. I obtained this specimen from Edwin Thompson, of E.T Meteorites at nearly twice this price several years ago. Price slashed to $950.00. Here is a link to information about this amazing Eucrite: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=47355 9. Finally, for sale is a beautiful crusted Howardite meteorite, NWA 5513. THW was just 230g. This specimen has a mass of 19.9g and has about 40% fusion crust. $150.00. PHOTOS of all but the NWA 4530 specimens can be seen here: http://s1239.photobucket.com/user/savannahbulldogs/library/#/user/savannahbulldogs/library/? sort=4page=1_suid=1367079335609001651992591041146 Please email me with any questions or for additional information on these specimens. litig8nsh...@aol.com I accept PayPal or Money Orders. Shipping is $6.00 in the Continental US. Please ask for overseas rates. Thanks for looking, and Best Regards, Paul Martyn litig8nsh...@aol.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Polandmet 10th anniversary
My heartfelt congratulations Marcin!!! A decade in business is quite an accomplishment in the meteorite world. I have bought many specimens from you over the years, and have always be 100% satisfied with both your professional service and integrity, as well as the wonder, unique meteorite specimens you make available. My your next decade be exponentially more successful. Best Regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah, GA In a message dated 7/4/2011 2:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mar...@meteoryt.net writes: Hello Tooday is special day for me. 10 years ago, after speaking with my parents about my personal future, I decided to try selling meteorites and maybe become a dealer one day. All this years was very succesfull for me. I meet alot of meteorite friends, visit many meteorite places and whats most importand I bay and sell many many meteorites. But begining was difficult as I dont have much money for meteorites. But this was not the biggest problem at this time. Poland was not part of EU, so every box was checked by customs. PayPal for many years dont even have idea that there is such country like Poland. I use Western Unuion BidPay check that was very difficult to exchange for real money as noone in banks know what the hell is this. Many times I buy or sell meteorite just for money sended in registered mails without any insurance. This was funny past Right now I celebrating Polandmet 10th anniversary. Thank You all who buy meteorites from me. I hope I can do same job for next 10 years. I prepared some old stuff on my page :) My first Polandmet website from 2001/2002 http://www.polandmet.com/old_polandmet/index.htm 10 years of Polandmet - photos compilation http://www.polandmet.com/+10years.htm And ofcourse for the next 24h all purchases get 20% discount for everything ! Hey, where is my champagne ??? :) Have a nice monrning, day, evening, night ! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.commarcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites
Good day Folks, I would echo Michael in SO-CAL's thoughts. To establish such a list could result in a rather expensive Defamation suit for the publisher(s) of such a list. Best Regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah GA In a message dated 5/12/2011 1:06:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikest...@gmail.com writes: List, So the very first post speaking to putting together a black list incorrectly accuses someone of being a fraud? Seems to me like trying to compile such a list would end up causing way more grief than it would solve. Regards, Michael in so. Cal. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello All, I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the way in listing Todd Parker as a scammer. From the all-too-little time that I have had the pleasure of being in Todd's company, I can most definitely say that he is an absolutely GREAT person, one of the nicest most friendly guys you could ever hope to meet! The list of attributes that Dave listed in the previous email describes Todd perfectly. Al, I firmly believe that if if you will look back over whatever info you based this on, you will find it was not him that you were thinking about. Sincerely, Robert Woolard --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net wrote: From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites To: d...@fallingrocks.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:01 AM Hello All, Dave Gheesling can't post to the list at the moment, but given the seriousness of the accusation made against Todd Parker, he asked that I post this on his behalf: His message follows: Hello List, While I haven't seen where Todd Parker's name was mentioned as a possible scammer other than in Al Mitterling's recent post (I haven't been closely following the thread), TODD PARKER MOST ASSUREDLY IS NOT A SCAMMER OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. To the contrary, Todd is probably one of the finest people I've had the pleasure of knowing -- inside or outside of the meteorite community. Presumably this mention has something to do with the recent Mifflin thread, but Todd's name shouldn't be associated with anything other than integrity -- he is a class act, to be sure. All the best, Dave Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:45 am To: al mitt alm...@kconline.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com Hi Al, You made a mistake listing Todd Parker as a scammer. He was mentioned as selling Whetstone Mountains that were definitely real. Frank - Original Message From: al mitt alm...@kconline.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 5:57:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all, Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel Samson and Todd Parker. We also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is a fraud. What I would like to see is a list of people and companies that are known to be selling fakes, mis-representing material and so forth. I am not talking about someone who has made a mistake. In order to qualify, the person or company in question would have to have evidence that would support their efforts to be purposely doing something wrong. I wouldn't want a witch hunt or dealers who don't like other dealers, trying to put people on this list. I know this is probably going to open a can of worms BUT it is important to know suspect con artists, frauds and people and companies who are just not getting the fact we don't like our collections messed up. Does a list already exist? If not it sure would be nice to have one that could be shared with the collecting community from time to time. Other input appreciated. --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites I've asked the administrator of the Meteorites group on Facebook to remove this person from the group. Hopefully this will put a damper on his shenanigans, but probably nothing short of legal action will make him cease and desist. gary On May 11, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Chris Spratt wrote: Never was my friend on Facebook yet he managed to post things in a group I belong to. Is
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Staggering New American CM1 Meteorite - As Seen on ...
Good afternoon Folks, It looks as though that new meteorite impacted a toilet. What a great shape though. Proof of life, and a hammer stone---all in one. Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 4/1/2011 4:50:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, damoc...@yahoo.com writes: I see it sold before I woke up. Oh well, that last $0.99 made it too rich fro my blood anyway. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Staggering New American CM1 Meteorite - As Seen on TV, Verified by Blaine Reed! To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 1:19 PM Hi List, I apologize for pulling a Cottingham and going over the my quota of weekly ads! ;) But I have an announcement that is so mind-blowing that I cannot wait until next week. I am proud to announce the finding of a new American CM1 meteorite! What's more, this meteorite contains PROOF OF EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL LIFE! I am offering to sell the main mass of this ultra-rare meteorite. If it does not sell, I will slice it up and offer smaller specimens to the public. For photos, details, and more information, see this link - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/new-american-cm1-meteorite-rarest-of-the-rare-with-fossil-microbes Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and othe...
Good afternoon Brian, Folks, Brian, your politically oriented diatribe is entirely inappropriate for posting to the Met list, is disrespectful to those who may have equally legitimate, differing opinions, and shows both your ignorance and your intransigent character. Your First Amendment argument is perhaps better suited for the courtroom, next time someone sues you for defamation. Paul Martyn, Savannah, GA In a message dated 3/16/2011 12:24:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net writes: Dear Count, Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes. I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you mentioned in your post I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations. There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS! I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance. Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update. Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news.. All my best! Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and ...
Good afternoon Folks, Why, my choice would be either Nakhla or Valera, of course. They both have a reputation to uphold and can be expected to get the job done. ;-) Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 3/16/2011 4:50:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ke...@lobstershack.com writes: If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument, which type of meteorite would you throw at the other person and why? (taking into account the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oman prison saga
Good afternoon Mike, Robert and Folks, MikeG echoes my sentiments exactly. Its great to have you guys back safe and sound. Welcome back. Best regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah GA In a message dated 3/14/2011 3:01:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, meteoritem...@gmail.com writes: Hi Mike, Robert and List, I concur with what some of the others said - I don't recall anyone being happy you guys were sitting in an Omani prison. Of course, when the news got around, people did talk about it, and it did result in the expected debates about hunting, legalities, and the like. Eventually, everyone just shut up about it in public because we didn't want to add to your problem. Now that both of you are back home and safe, everything can return to normal - or what passes for normal in the meteorite world. I don't think anyone would wish a foreign prison on their worst enemy, and if there are people out there who were happy to see you guys rot in a cell, then I would not want to have anything to do with such people. Now, get some rest, try to unwind, and get out there and find the first American lunar. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BLACK FRIDAY POP QUIZ Answer
Good afternoon Folks, About 10 years ago I bought a small specimen of Calcalong Creek from Rob Eliot. I sold about a dozen .0005 to .002 gram specimens of this meteorite on eBay for $400.00 each. As available lunar material was tougher to come by back then, and given the rarity of Calcalong Creek, none of my Buy-It-Now listings on eBay lasted any more than a few hours. Conservatively, the sales price of those specimens ranged from $200,000/g to about $800,000/g. I decided to add a new, small specimen of Calcalong Creek to my collection just a couple of months ago and I paid approximately $250,000/g for that specimen---and felt darned lucky to get it at all. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 11/28/2010 2:43:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, meteoritem...@gmail.com writes: Hi Stuart and List, Questions like this can be tricky, depending on the information sources available. For example... I once paid $100 for a 1mg speck of Sylacauga. That amounts to a staggering $100,000/gram. Even further I once traded for a 1mg speck of Lafayette. In the process of moving the speck to another gemjar, the speck fractured into two pieces - one larger, one smaller. I sold the smaller sub-speck for $100. I would wager that the speck weighed less than 1/2 milligram. So the selling price on that was about $200,000 per gram or more. From everything I have read or seen, $200K per gram exceeds any known auction price or selling price for a meteorite (per gram). Of course, I wasn't around back before the internet and during the opening days of the Saharan gold rush when lunars and martians were selling for astronomical prices. During those days, Calcalong Creek was exceedingly-expensive. It is indeed possible that some intrepid soul paid more than $200K/gram for a speck of it. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/28/10, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Is it written somewhere that this IS the most expensive per gram?? Because internet searches turns up all different ones as the most expensive ever. -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:50 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] BLACK FRIDAY POP QUIZ Answer Hello Listers, The answer and winner to the Black Friday Pop Quiz is Calcalong Creek and the winner is Ty. Thank all for submitting your answers. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] BLACK FRIDAY POP QUIZ Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com Fri Nov 26 18:43:21 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Arizona strewnfields? Next message: [meteorite-list] The Temperature/smell of meteorites: Reports from Chinese annals Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hello Listers, I have a special edition Black Friday Pop Quiz. The name of the game, be the 10Th Listers to email me off the list with the correct answer and you will win a 142mg Abee meteorite. Question: Please tell me the most expensive meteorite per gram is? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Previous message: [meteorite-list] Arizona strewnfields? Next message: [meteorite-list] The Temperature/smell of meteorites: Reports from Chinese annals Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite may have landed in Clare
Good afternoon Folks, Imagine that 50 times their weight in gold. That would be what, $50,000 a gram? LOL Nice try...if they can sell it! Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 9/15/2010 4:12:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stanleygr...@hotmail.com writes: List: WOW! - Thanks looks like a Martian Meteorite to me! Greg S. http://www.clarepeople.com/201009152342/Meteorite-may-have-landed-in-Clare.h tml Meteorite may have landed in Clare Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:51 Scientists believe that a meteorite that landed in Ireland on September 1 may have touched down in north east Clare. According to Ireland’s foremost astronomer, David Moore, the September 1 meteorite is likely to have landed in land along the border between Clare, Galway and Tipperary. Moore, who is also the Chairman of Astronomy Ireland is appealing to people who witnessed the fireball to contact the association. The person who discovers the meteorite is also likely to receive a major cash boost as fragments of meteorites are regularly sold for 50 times their weight in gold. Andrew Hamilton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
Well put Anne! Thank you for your clarity, and leadership! Paul Martyn, Savannah, GA In a message dated 8/19/2010 10:51:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, impact...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 8/19/2010 7:59:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, cdtuc...@cox.net writes: Richard, Anne, List, This has a lot of us smoking right now. I am pressing send anyway here. Sorry. The truly sad thing about this is that Anne herself is the one who claimed in an earlier email that Tony did in fact have some of NWA 5363 already. She went on to tell us all to be patient. WRONG: I did say that a piece of NWA 6292 had been sent to Dr. Irving shortly after the Ensisheim Show. Pieces of NWA 5363 were promised to him from various sources, but never received by him. However I now have a firm promise from a very serious dealer who will mail a slice on Monday. Carl, you have some NWA 5363, why don't you help sciences, and offer a piece for study? And for the newcomers, who are not yet aware of the problem, here it is: NWA 5400 is a very unusual brachinite and the only way to know definitely if any other brachinite is truly, really paired with it is by doing an Oxygen-Isotope study. Such extreme measure is rarely needed but it certainly is in this case. And yes, you do have to be patient until it is done.There is no other way. It is a long complex process, we are lucky that Dr. Irving is willing to do that study and to compare the results for all those pieces. Now we must give him whatever amount of time he needs, and yes, wait until it is done. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) This after she was made fully aware that Dr Jambon as a qualified scientist, had already confirmed the pairing with NWA 5400. This is his exact quote NWA 5363 is undoubtedly paired with NWA 5400 In the same email Dr. Jambon went on to say that; I have been insulted. My Moroccan partners have been insulted too. We all wait for apology. Although at this time I think he might have been referring to Greg. Unless I missed it. Nobody has yet offered any kind of apology or even an explanation of why they would insult him. I can't help but wonder why a board member of the IMCA would continue to insult a very important scientist in our field? It seems to me an IMCA board member would try to do all they can to keep from alienating and insulting our scientists. Anne what if some day the IMCA needs a favor from Dr. Jambon? Did you ever think of that? Sorry Anne but, you are way out of line here because I personally made sure you got a copy of Dr. Jambons email to this list. Look it up yourself in archives from June 23rd, 2010 in an email posted by Zelimer Gabelica with the subject; Pairings to NWA 5400. Or I can email it to you again if you'd like. As far as I am concerned this matter has been settled since that email date and I would like to offer Dr. Jambon my personal apologies for not asking Anne to cool her guns until now. Anne please cool your guns and respect Dr. Jambon's work. It has been stated all along that all of this material originated from Mbarek. There was really no reason to believe it was ever anything but paired. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende smells like lime?
Actually, a petrified slice of lime looks surprisingly similar to Allende. Either that, or he was doing tequila shots with lime as he was packaging your specimen. LOL Paul Savannah, GA In a message dated 7/24/2010 1:08:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca writes: Hey list. Yesterday I got an nice chunk of Allende from Big Kahuna Meteorites. Is it me, or does this meteorite have an aroma reminiscent of lime? --- -Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Livingston catches hold of meteorite fever
Good afternoon Folks, That video clip is absolutely cute, at the end!!! Best regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah, GA In a message dated 4/23/2010 12:54:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, damoc...@yahoo.com writes: I found the video report that is being run on CNN today. It isn't yet on the CNN site (as far as I can tell) but this is the same report without the CNN tags. (Watch the url wrap) http://www.necn.com/04/23/10/Livingston-catches-hold-of-meteorite-fev/landin g_scitech.html?blockID=221795feedID=4213 It is also the same that Jim Strope posted earlier today, but a bit better quality. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I, too, had many dealings with Christian over the years. His presence in the meteoritic community will be greatly missed. My heartfelt condolences to all those who grieve his loss. Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 1/13/2010 6:15:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, m...@mhmeteorites.com writes: This is terrible news. Christian was one of my first customers (and a very good one) in 1996. We never met in person but exchanged messages countless times. He was one of the most astute collectors I have ever know. I will miss him. Matt --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another lying kid gets clueless paper to publish his story
Good morning Folks, I can hear the next door neighbor who was BBQing, and tossed the hot rock over the fence, laughing his keester off from here. Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 2009/09/22 11:25:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cyna...@charter.net writes: Caution-- this story contains such a dense concentration of misinformation that there is the risk of it tearing a hole in reality and suck you into your monitor. Photo in the link. http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2009/09/22/meteorite-rocks-br uno-s-world-97319-24745554/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due
Good evening Folks, I'd like to sincerely echo the sentiments of both Rob and Richard. In the several transactions, and many communications I've had with Eric Twelker over the years, I've found him to be the honest, and informative meteorite expert/dealer that helps makes our hobby/vocation/avocation such a joy. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 2009/09/21 7:48:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob_mccaffe...@yahoo.com writes: I too, have nothing but good things to say about Eric. When I first got into meteorites, I bought a lunar (DaG400) and a martian (SaU008) from him. These are both major outlays for a noob and I(partly due to dyslexia) entered his paypal address incorrectly. He was patient, understanding, communicative and ultimately I got it right and got my samples in first rate condition. He's helped me in other ways too regarding our passion since then, too. If I ever make it to Alaska, I'd love to meet up with him and buy him a drink. He's a top bloke and while we're in the good-will mode, I'd like to thank him for everything he's done for me and my attempts to forward meteorites to kids in Scotland. He's held in the highest regard in the UK. Rob McC --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Credit where credit is more than due To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 11:56 PM I know that most businesses never hear anything but complaints, and I've expressed my share on this list too. I just want to let everyone know of a dealer going above and beyond, WAY above, and offer some praise here instead of complaint. I ordered a small slice of Gujba, just a couple of grams, for my type set from Eric Twelker a short while ago. When it hadn't arrived, I inquired if it had been sent and when, just to make sure it hadn't gotten lost in the mail. He responded quickly that he was away but would check on it as soon as he returned home. Finding he had made a mistake, he apologized that he hadn't yet sent it and said it'd be on its way that day. That was on Saturday. I just went out to the mailbox to find my slice already delivered with $21+ postage on the envelope! I'm still shocked. Totally unexpected and in my case, unnecessary. He could have sent it via normal 1st class mail and I would have been happy with that, but he made the extra effort and loss of profit to make a very small mistake in mind very much more than right. Eric's website http://www.meteoritemarket.com/mmhomef.htm -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question
Good afternoon, Folks, I can't speak for today's meteorite market, but back in the early 2000's it was the Lunar meteorite Calcalong Creek. Small specimens were selling at about $75,000.00 per gram. I know because I bought some from Rob Elliot at that price, and made money re-selling specimens. Just incredible!!! Best regards, Paul Savannah GA In a message dated 2009/08/19 3:29:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stanleygr...@hotmail.com writes: List: I was wondering what was the most valuable single meteorite - not scientific but the most value $/gram? Also, what is the most valuable type? Mars, Lunar or other? Do Lunar meteorites still have the most value? Much Thanks, Greg S. _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WHATS WITH THE ATTACKING
Once lived an old boor named Jason, Excelling in conflict, he'd hasten, With his butt-buddy Steve, And no good up his sleeve, His virtue spilled down the lu basin. The Devil made me do it. ;-) **Dell Deals: Treat yourself to a sweet deal on popular laptops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223100673x1201716527/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D7) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep more of your money?
Good evening Folks, In theory this method to beat the system makes a lot of sense. One caveat, however. It is against PayPal policy, as of June 3, and they threaten to sanction you if they catch you. You can presume that they will probably have some software running that will flag accounts with a significant changeover from commercial payments to personal ones. Here is their position on the idea: Beginning June 3, 2009 PayPal user agreement is being amended as follows: 1. Section 4.2 of the user agreement will read as follows: “4.2 Receiving Payments for Commercial Transactions and Personal Transactions. a. Fees depend on whether you are making a commercial transaction or a personal transaction. A commercial transaction involves buying and selling goods or services, and payments received when you send a “request money” using PayPal. A personal transaction involves sending money to and receiving money from friends and family without making a purchase. b. If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a personal payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept personal payments.” Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah In a message dated 6/27/2009 11:48:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com writes: From what I have read and understand yes, you are still covered. I have tested this with a couple payments I have made, all have worked without the fees. This is more for off ebay purchases with people that are reputable and you (or anyone else) has bought from in the past. I know I will be offering a portion of what I will save to the buyers who use this method. This way, Its not so one sided and will benifit both parties. As with any transaction, make sure the person is reliable with this method or the normal one, but for payments to guys like Greg/Adam Hupe and others (just as examples)- who you know are honest and reliable, this method would be good option to use and the seller may offer a portion of the cost is price reduction like I am going to do. Sure it may just come out to a few dollars here and there, but over time it adds up. Greg --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com wrote: From: Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep more of your money? To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 10:49 PM Yes, but does the buyer get the PayPal protection that is advertised on the listing if the money is sent to an individual instead of to a seller as a purchase? Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep more of your money? I have found a nice way to beat the system when it comes to getting money with paypal. Instead of sending money with the purchase tab, use the personal tab and you will not have to pay the paypal fees when you recieve the money. This can add up to substantial savings over time. Dealers, all you need to do is ask the person buying from you is for them to instead of clicking the purchase tab, click the personal tab on the paypal send money page. You will pay NO FEES on the money you recieve! Again, this will add up to nice savings over time. Hope this will help some of you out there, in tough times (and good ones) every little bit helps. Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323006x1201367222/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FREE METEORITE OFFER Find The Hidden Word (BKIES) in on...
Hi Michael, and all, The term (BKIES) appears in the following ad: METEORITE Rare Low TKW, DAVY (B), Texas, H4, 5.45gItem number: 200310438027 Best regards, Paul Martyn, Savannah In a message dated 4/30/2009 7:39:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, My capitalistic response is this- Anyone who can find the hidden word (BKIES) in one of my ebay store inventory meteorites will get that meteorite for free. CLUES: Meteorite is worth between $30.00 and $1,000.00. Find the hidden word and tell me which auction it is in. It is yours for free/shipping included. 1st email I receive with correct auction WINS The hidden word exactly appears like this (BKIES). http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Have fun. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219491521x1201306563/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.double click.net%2Fclk%3B214102108%3B35952091%3Bs) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What makes a hammer a hammer?
Good evening Folks, It's been a long time, but I'd like to add something: To me--as I have understood it for many years--a Hammer is nothing more than a meteorite that impacts a man-made objectand/or perhaps the occasional critter.Nothing more--Nothing less. Best regards to ya'll, Paul, Savannah GA PS Happy New Year to all of you! In a message dated 1/3/2009 10:17:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cyna...@charter.net writes: On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:50:18 -0500, you wrote: I thought you meant to say the community of hammer collectors within the meteorite collecting community was small -- relative to the international meteorite collecting community itself. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More golden showers
Good day Folks, Sounds to me like a modern day version of 'Chicken Little': Amusing and something to perhaps keep a 4 year old's interest at bedtime; but hardly believable. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 7/8/2008 2:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Darren, List, Please note that the first press release said that the discovery disproved the now discredited theory of glacial transport. A few days later, they say: diamonds, gold and silver could have been ejected into the air during the blasts, West said, or they could have been carried south by rivers formed from the meltwater of liquified glaciers. Change your tune much? Note also that they specify a magnitude for the blast of 300,000 megatons. This would require an impactor of 1000 to 1300 meters in diameter (more for a comet) and would produce a 20-kilometer crater. They say a 5000 meter comet, for good measure. Even better is this assertion: For several months following the comet strike, the skies rained precious stone and metals, the researchers speculate. Diamonds drizzled down by the tons. FOR MONTHS? Diamonds and gold rained from the sky for MONTHS? As dust, they explain -- diamond dust and presumably gold dust. I wonder how many tens of thousands of tons of diamonds they think were laying around on the Canadian tundra? One easily testable assertion of their scheme is these massive floods of glacial meltwaters at precisely 12,900 years ago EVERYWHERE in the northern tier of states, entirely at the same instant, from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Since glacial melt chronology has been worked out in great detail over a century, there should be some sign of this massive melt they speak of. (PS: they're isn't any.) While in one place, they speak of a three-mile comet, elsewhere in the press release, they speak of the multiple airbursts... Always good to have a couple of different stories going, I guess. This just gets more entertaining by the day... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] More golden showers http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,377449,00.html Diamonds May Have Rained Down From Space During Ice Age **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper
Good afternoon Mark, and all, If the article linked below is to be believed then yes, Casper has been the curator of the Cornell meteorite collection and, he has worn many other hats during his lifetime as well. Caveat: The site mentioning all of these accomplishments appears to belong to Casper, himself. Take a look. _http://www.clubcyrus.com/casper/casper_latest/about.html_ (http://www.clubcyrus.com/casper/casper_latest/about.html) Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah GA In a message dated 3/18/2008 1:14:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is that true - Michael Caspar was curator of Cornell's meteorite collection? Was he a dealer at the time, or a curator at an earlier period? Anybody know who the present curator of Cornell's collection is, and for that matter, how big a collection it is? Thanks! Mark Grossman **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campos?
Good evening Folks, and Ken, Ken, I agree with you. It just looks too small; and concomitantly, not weathered enough, to be a Campo specimen. Shrapnel--common to Sikote Alin--came to mind when I first looked at the photo. My first thought was Sikotebut then again, the bulbous nodule at the elbow of the specimen looks out of place as well. Huh! Best regards to all, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 2/24/2008 8:09:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Strangest Campos I've seen: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ250219401377 Best, ken **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite hits North West U.S.
Breaking news--- Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA SPOKANE, Wash. — An apparent meteor streaked through the sky over the Pacific Northwest early Tuesday, drawing reports of bright lights and sonic booms in parts of Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Although a witness reported seeing the object strike the Earth in a remote part of Adams County, in southeast Washington, it had not been found. I'm convinced it was a meteor, said Geoff Chester, spokesman for the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C. It was a classic description of a fireball. Chester speculated the meteor was the size of a big suitcase and had been orbiting the sun for millions of years before entering Earth's orbit. The Federal Aviation Administration said a private pilot reported seeing the meteor hit the Earth in a burst of light near State Route 26 and the Lind-Hatton Road about 5:45 a.m. The Adams County sheriff's office had no immediate reports of damage, injury or a meteor landing in the area, about 175 miles east-southeast of Seattle and 90 miles southwest of Spokane. Chester said people commonly think they see a meteor hit or about to hit the ground, when it is nowhere close. Most meteorites that strike the Earth are never found, he said When you see objects like this in the sky your sense of scale is distorted, he said. It's a common optical illusion. A number of pilots reported seeing the meteor streaking through the sky from Boise, Idaho, into Washington state, the FAA said. Surveillance cameras in the region captured a ball of light in the sky and then a flash illuminating the early morning darkness. Television stations in Spokane reported getting viewer calls from across Washington state and north Idaho, parts of Oregon and southeastern British Columbia, starting about 5:30 a.m. The callers said it resembled summer lightning, a rocket, a satellite or an exploding transformer. A viewer from Walla Walla, about 55 miles south-southeast of the reported crash site, said she heard a sonic boom and felt a shock wave not long after seeing the streaking meteor. The East Oregonian of Pendleton, Ore., said people in that city reported hearing a sonic boom after seeing the sky light up. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Images of NWA 5000 Complete Slice
Truly Stunning!!! In a message dated 1/30/2008 4:17:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I promised some images of the only complete slice taken from NWA 5000, The Cosmic Masterpiece. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Anybody recogonize this??????
Good evening Dean, and Folks, My first impression was that the specimen was a spectacular piece of pre-historic peanut brittle. Then, the big let down when the after-cutting photo showed it to be nothing more than lunar-oxidized platinum. Well, Dean--You almost had a keeper! Better luck next time, old friend. :-) Best regards to all, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:01:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got a little excited about this a short while ago (until I cut it). Only weights 30 grams. Hard to believe that is not crust. http://www.cebuprincess.com/meteoriteshop/oddrock.html Anybody recogonize this as a unusual meteorite? It is absolutely non magnetic Cheers DEAN **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You from an 8 year meteorite fan.
Good evening Folks, I have to say.it makes a heart feel good.and feel proud. Thanks once again to the Folks belonging to our list, another inquisitive mind is primed for our beloved vocation/avocation. Sometimes, it takes so little to mean so much. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 12/11/2007 9:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr. Ruben Garcia) writes: Hi all, After I posted a help letter from an 8 year old meteorite fan, several people came to the rescue. As far as I can tell he received at least 8 meteorites and lots of pictures from Delbert Waterbury, Jeff Hodges and Don Edwards as well as others. Below is the link to his thank you letter. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/youngmeteoritefan.htm **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fourth-grader Finds Meteorite in Florida?
Good evening Folks, and Adam, Actually Adam, it's not such a far fetched idea. Many an evening I put fist size pieces of slag into the toaster oven at 375 degrees...then, with an asbestos glove, toss them into neighbor's yards just for fun. Incidentally, I happen to have been visiting my vacation home in Cedar Key, FL a few days agojust a couple of doors down from little Jerry. Best regards, and to my U.S. friends, Happy Thanksgiving, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 11/21/2007 6:42:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like the kid needs to learn a lesson in telling the truth. Come on, steam coming out of the hole and it burnt his little pinky, give me a break! Happy Thanksgiving, Adam **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Leigh Anne DelRay
Good evening Folks, and Bill, Your most recent post was certainly in poor taste, Bill. Not to mention potentially libelous. Personally, I am shocked by your brazenness. Best Regards to all, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 11/11/2007 8:18:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, (Bill) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Leigh Anne is That said, I wish her well. Bill ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca Meteoorite fall in Peru????
Good evening, Mr. Gregory, I did receive the two photos you sent me following my winning bid of your eBay auction. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:ITitem=300159255522_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI) I would note that the second photo you sentthe one which shows you climbing out of the crater with a few plastic bags for your photo op; and which you have posted to your latest auctionis disconcerting, to say the least. That crater has been the recipient of human waste, among other things--if I am properly informed. The fact that you climbed down into the crater-waste without appropriate protection speaks volumes about your professionalism in the science of meteoritics.not to mention your omnipotence. The photo of the crater you forwarded; which coincidentally you have apparently unilaterally named (Lake Titicaca), is not as advertised. The optical quality is quite poor, in fact--I find it difficult to believe that it is 1,200 dpi(one thousand, two hundred dpi) as I requested and, which is significantly less than the quality you advertised as possible to send. In all honesty, my three year old, 5 meg., camera would have taken a cleaner picture. Further, your eBay ad's suggestion that the photo you ultimately e-mailed me was removed from your original eBay ad (yes, I saw the ad before you removed the photoapparently concerned that some ingenious person might actually copy the photo) in order to maximize it's quality with your Photoshop software, is falling on deaf ears. Yes, I won your auction for next to nothing..unfortunately, was worth even less.So, to respond to your e-mail inquiry: Do I like the photos? I'm not fluent in enough languages to tell you that NO, I AM NOT HAPPY, I FEEL TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND YES RANDY, I AM A LAWYER...FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. No worries my friend, I'm not going to sue youOn the contrary, I happen to respect the Meteorite List members with whom you were fighting before you did us all the favor, and resigned your subscription. So NO, anticipating your next query...I will NOT represent you! PS The idea that you would charge $50.00 shipping, for a one gram specimen of any meteorite you might sell on eBay, is truly repugnant. Shame on you, Sir. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia, USA In a message dated 10/16/2007 12:27:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Let me know if you like them. Notice the trash in the crater. I waded in and cleaned it. Are you an attorney? -- Sincerely, Randall Gregory ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] peekskill micro on ebay
Good evening Folks, With all due respect to the seller and the hawker of the Peekskill specimen: i have many larger pieces of this and am letting this sample (micro approx. .1g) go w/ the pictureof the car. ..JUST doesn't cut it. How about actually massing the specimen? Dean Bessy aside (he is grandfathered in), if you put a micro on the auction block, do us the honor of massing it...especially if it is something special!!! Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah GA In a message dated 10/15/2007 10:22:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you ain't got it or can't afford it... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290171215199 ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jim' Memorial Service - Photos
What unqualified tribute, what absolute honor, could any individual have at their death, but the outpouring of the love and admiration of their colleagues, their friends and their family? Sleep softly, brother Jim. In a message dated 10/14/2007 6:53:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.aerolite.org/events/kriegh-memorial.htm ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulation to Tom Phillips!
Good evening, Folks, I agree with all of these accolades. In addition, I'd like to point out that the photo makes an awesome desktop background! Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 9/29/2007 5:02:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Tom, Walter, Geoff and List, Walter writes: I am not into thin sections (yet) but I recognize art when I see it and science as well. You manage to combine both. And, Walter, believe me, those among us who *are* already into thin section and meteorite photography, know that Tom's pictures are outstanding, excellent, paramount. Congratulations to Tom! Bernd ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite causes sickness.
Good evening Folks, It appears that the truth has finely been revealed. Meteorites ARE dangerous and, they cause serious illness. Having developed somewhat of an immunity over the years to the severe radiation which meteorites emit, and in a sincere desire to help others avoid the deadly consequences of exposure to meteorites, I am willing to accept delivery of your entire meteorite collection, at no charge to you, in order to protect you from certain harm. Please contact me off-list for an address to which you may ship your deadly meteorite collection. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA http://www.livinginperu.com/news-4719-environmentnature-meteorite-lands-puno-p eru-near-bolivia-citizens-report-radiation-sickness Meteorite Lands in Puno, Peru Near Bolivia, Citizens Report Radiation Sickness Local police reported that the supposed meteorite made a hole 6 meters (19 feet) deep and 30 meters (98 feet) wide. (LIP-ir) -- Peru's Andina News Agency reported today that Puno's Regional Health Directorate sent a group of specialists to the Carancas community in the province of Chucuito near Bolivia to take samples of a meteorite that supposedly landed in the area. Jorge López Tejada, a representative for the institution, stated that an environmental cleaning crew was going to the area to take earth and water samples from the actual landing site and from surrounding areas. The samples will be tested in Lima, where the necessary equipment is available. We hope that results will be ready within 7days, said Jorge López Tejada. In addition, Tejada stated that a health brigade, consisting of doctors and nurses would be sent to the landing site to aid people that had reported health problems after having gotten close to the supposed meteorite. Between 10 and 12 people have reported dizziness, migraines and in some cases vomiting. They assure that after having had close contact with the object the symptoms began, stated Tejada. Furthermore, Tejada stated that check ups would be performed and that it had not been discarded that the symptoms could be related to the glowing object which fell from the sky. They are healthy people, it could be (due to) radiation, we don't know, we are assuming, it's worth investigating. Things will be clearer tomorrow, stated Tejada. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Disturbing pattern from Matteo.
Good afternoon Michael, and Folks, Those of us who have been with the List for many years have been witness to the rantings and ravings of Matteo, time and time again. Take solace in the memory of the Tessera meteorite fiasco of several years ago, and accept that the source of the persistent whining must be considered..and then appropriately dismissed as irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Best regards to all, Paul Martyn Savannah GA In a message dated 8/1/2007 1:13:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think most on this list would have seen over the last 6 or 7 years, a disturbing pattern from Mr Matteo, that no matter what I do, when I announce a new meteorite, fall/find/lunar/chondrite, it doesnt matter, a certain Italian goes crazy and starts the attacks, rants, BS etc. Is it not me or is this getting old? I would really like Art to put a stop to it. I have not mentioned this guy's name for months, but lo and behold, it begins anew... Michael Farmer ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Authenticating recovery locations MAPS article
Good morning Folks, Here is a link to the abstract of the article Alex and Dieter for anyone interested in perusing it. The full article is available for purchase at the site too. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/arizona/maps/2007/0042/0003/art0 0002 Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 8/1/2007 9:57:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Alex, you can find the article in MAPS 42/3, March 2007, p.321: Folco, D'Orazio, Perchiazzi: Authenticating the recovery location of meteorites: The case of Castenaso A L5 chondrite of 120 gram was claimed to be found near Bologna, Italy - but it was clearly proved that it came from a hot desert. Very interesting to read. Best regards Dieter ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite List 10th or 11th Anniversary- Thanks
I'd like to second that thought! Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:51:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure the overwhelming vast majority of the members share my feelings. I wanted to be sure and let you know, Art, just how much we appreciate you and your work. Very sincerely, Robert Woolard ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Okay, nobody sell him that meteorite.
In a message dated 7/21/2007 12:10:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://www.gocomics.com/gasolinealley/2007/07/17/_ (http://www.gocomics.com/gasolinealley/2007/07/17/) Good day folks, If you enjoyed the comic strip about the meteorite, don't miss today's installment: http://www.gocomics.com/gasolinealley/2007/07/21/ Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An announcement
In a message dated 6/24/2007 2:12:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: happy you are happy Matteo Not exactly. I believe it goes: Happy, Happy-Joy, Joy! Paul ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global warming? Blame Tunguska
Ahh, Mark, The stuff dreams are made of. With a simple deflection the advanced scientist might be able to nuke his mother-in-law. Nice idea but, it seems to me that we have a tough enough time calculating man made space debris re-entry points/timesmuch less some object travelling at an incoming speed of say, 20,000 or 30,000 miles per hour. I dare say I'd prefer not to risk it...unless you are maybe talking about a little rock the size of a 19 inch TV. Then feel free to drop it in my back yard. G'day to all of you, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 6/20/2007 3:51:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this 'NEO deflection technology' that is being developed, could it not potentially also be (technically at least) used to steer an impact to occur onto a 'foreign power's country'? perhaps even with smaller rocks - A sort of 'natural nuke'?... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Meteorite List] OCEANS ON MARS
In a message dated 6/13/2007 7:56:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the formation of life is THAT improbable, how does it come that WE are here? Good evening Folks, H. Perhaps, it might too, be fairly argued that, blind is he/she that are so closed minded as to dismiss the possibility of the existence of God. Certainly, that possibility falls within that same probability that ...with billions and billions of stars, planets, moons, asteroids, comets with water and amino acids, sugar, and all the stuff necessary to plant the seed of life... life elsewhere is possible, Yes? Good evening to all, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sky detonation video
Good day, Folks, Watch the first half of the clip closely and notice it appears that something is attached to, and dangling from beneath, the light. My guess is that we are viewing a fire balloon and, the dramatic end of its life. Here is a site which describes how to make your own UFO. http://www.kickthefog.com/ufo.htm Cheers, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 11 plagues
Let's not forget my Ex. That makes 11. ;-) Just kidding...all my Ex's live in splendor. Paul ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically proven or afarce
Good evening Folks, Not wanting to intentionally stir the pot of angst, I won't share my opinions regarding the validity of the global warming theory..in great part because it conflicts with the beliefs of roughly half of the List and, arguably, neither extreme (entirely pro or con) position is capable of clear and convincing scientific proof at this stage. And also, because, in greater part, I will admit that I am truly uncertain which argument has greater credibility. I would submit two widely held, and generally accepted, scientific theorems to consider before taking sides in this debate: 1. Entropy 2. Perpetual Motion Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah GA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] frebies and givaways
In a message dated 6/1/2007 1:51:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list.I hope all are well.I just want to let everyone know who won freebies,all will finally be mailed out this weekend.I also hope you all enjoy your free stuff. steve arnold Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! . Good afternoon Folks, An Open Letter to (Chicago) Steve Arnold Re June 19, 1999--a day which will live in infamy. Steve, Despite the scores of annual requests you receive from List members, pleading with you to cease your endless aggrandizement, egocentric self-promotion, abuse of bandwidth, and generally insufferable banter, you continue your abuse at a rate which shouts from the rooftops how little respect you have for the vast majority of List members. Case in point: Is it really necessary to inform the entire List that your “ freebies” de jure will be mailed out this weekend? Honestly, Steve, you certainly must have the email addresses of those folks who you are sending your rocks to. Contact them directly if you must, not via the list. While I don't claim to speak for all List members on this topic, I, for one, don't give a rip when it is that you are mailing your rocks out. Please allow common sense and common courtesy to dictate your posting habits. In the alternative, drop your computer system in the nearest lake and listen to the collective sigh of relief across the planet. Paul Martyn ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tornado snatches 1, 000 pound pallasite meteorite
In a message dated 5/5/2007 11:52:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tornado snatches 1,000 pound pallasite meteorite Good evening Folks, Certainly a half-ton rock couldn't have been thrown all that far. I certainly expect and hope that Steve will have recovered it within the next 48 hours. Best regards to you all, Paul Martyn Savannah ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] No More Church Stuff?
Good morning Folks, Of course, Chicago Steve is right.partially. There should be no further mention of CHURCH STUFF on this list. And, henceforth, there should likewise be no mention of the Ensisheim meteorite because, as we all know, in 1492 shortly after the fall, the Mayor of Ensisheim ordered that the meteorite be placed in front of the village CHURCH! In order to form a more perfect List, I think we all can agree that there should exist a Separation of Church and List. Best regards to all, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois Meteorite Astronomy Magazine News Blog
Good Day, Folks, Good eye Mark! After viewing the photos of the 'Meteowrong' my vote goes to the industrial wood chipper as the likely etiology of the Would-Be-Hammer. Best regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 3/9/2007 2:10:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone, Perhaps Astronomy Magazine's Daniel Pendick was the only writer to actually contact a meteorite expert on this meteorite. http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=5264 Clear Skies, Mark Bostick BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] batch emails
Good evening Art, Thanks for the update. Also, while it isn't said often enough, your efforts in keeping this great list operating smoothly are GREATLY appreciated. Thank you! Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 3/3/2007 6:08:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you make sure your emails don't contain any html then they will post automatically but it seems recently that the number of held emails is increasing dramatically so I think that many of the new webmail clients insert html even when plain text is selected (I'm investigating this). Regards, Art The Meteorite mailing List BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trade updates
In a message dated 2/28/2007 7:55:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chicago Steve writes: Hello list.I updated my website and deleted all pics that are not for trading(Ad nauseam) Good Day Folks, Quick question. Have I missed something, or does the list-rule limiting the number of ads for meteorite sales not apply to trades as well? Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
I'd like to nominate Chicago Steve Arnold for the prestigious .Oh, wait a minute, this thread isn't about the Annual Meteoritic Golden Raspberry (Razzie) Award...sorry Folks. All kidding aside, Of course, without any hesitation or moral reservation, I concur that Bernd Pauli is the quintessential nominee for the People's Choice Harvey Award. Best regards to all of you, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lawsuit -Taylor vs. Evans
Good morning Folks, If, by some imaginative thought process on the part of the Defendant, (Evans) the fact that he provided Planetary and Achondrite meteorites to the Plaintiff, (Taylor) somehow vitiated a prior obligation to turn over the Park Forest specimen too, then that would be referred to as an affirmative defense. However, Mr. Taylor was under no obligation whatsoever to prove up the Defendant's affirmative defenses to the court, whether they be legitimate or imagined. Idem est non probari et non esse; non deficit jus, sed probatio. Translated, this means What is not proved and what does not exist are the same; it is not a defect of the law, but of proof. In other words Folks--You snooze, you lose. Perhaps it is time for someone to pay up before their property and/or wages are seized to satisfy the judgment. Just a thought. Best regards to all, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/5/2006 5:14:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mccartney, You left out the part where you failed to disclose to the court the fact that you received thousands of dollars worth of Planetary and Achondrite meteorites from me. Now, why would you do that Mccartney? Shouldnt you have told the court everything? You are an honest guy, right? Lets continue this conversation in Tucson. I cant wait to see you this coming February. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LEONID'S MORE HOPE FOR COLLECTORS
According to Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, a meteorite shower results in excruciating pain and, welts covering the exposed body parts. OUCH! ;-) Think I'll stick to water (H2O). Time to dig out the Kevlar body armor for the upcoming SHOW. Dave wrote: No, surely you are kidding, all meteorites come from meteor showers don't they? DF __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Chicago) what are you doing????????
Good morning Folks, I'd be interested in knowing whether the hole in the specimen at issue was the result of the flight of the specimen (ablation) or whether it resulted from natural weathering, as was suggested as a possible cause for the hole in a previous thread. As far as meteorites with holes are concerned, my supposition would be that a weather-induced specimen would be worth something less, perhaps significantly less, than a truly ablation-generated specimen of similar mass and aesthetically pleasing shape. Perhaps also Mr. Arnold, (Chicago Steve), given his significant price reduction for his specimen, is silently screaming to us all, his personal impression regarding the origin of the hole? Just a thought. Best regards to all, Paul Martyn In Sunny Savannah In a message dated 11/3/2006 10:52:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ruben, What you've noticed isn't a new. Buy high sell low...h. I think Steve must have a sugar mama. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] COMCAST problems
Good evening Folks: As far as Comcast, and other rogue ISPs, go...well, AOLwill nowgive you screen names and email service"free". Might as well us them for a backup email provider for those occasions when the competition goes insanejust my meteoritic thoughts. ;-) Best Regards, Paul Martyn __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Is it all wonder and awe?
Thank you for sharing! This passage bespeaks of a feeling that many of us have experienceda feeling of awe and, of appreciation. The manymeteorite specimensof which we are guardians, are not simply numbers in a global catalog. They are evidence of an existence outside our own world.proof that we reside within a living, fluid universe. These exemplars of rock and iron remind us that our own existence..our presence on thisplanet"potential meteor" we call Earth,is not as much dependent on ourdetermination as it is on "luck". Lend an eye to the heavens, and your heart to the Earth. Best regards, Paul __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] witness falls
In a message dated 7/7/2006 5:04:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 7/7/06 11:36 AM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see why so many people focus on witness falls. - I just hate it when witnesses fall! I cannot even to begin to explain the immense of this. -- I don't think anyone can explain the immense. Michael Good afternoon Folks, I'll try to explain: As a trial attorney, I can confirm that witness falls are rare, though not unheard of. Because the typical courtroom is tiled, when witness falls do occur there is often Blood involved. Ultimately, the truly immense witnesses are the ones that fall the hardest. I hope that clears up any confusion. Best Regards, Paul Martyn __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Even more of that darned Brenham
Good morning Susan, and Folks, Susan, no question is stupid. Consider though, that the surface of the Earth is approximately 196,935,000 square miles. That a few meteorites travelling in a group would be caught by Earth's gravity on successive passes and land in the same general area of the Earth--well, that would be extrordinarily unlikely. Also, keep in mind that the Earth not only rotates on its axsis, but it also revolves around the sunso, in the 24 hours it would take for the Earth to spin once, allowing the State of Kansas to once again face the general direction of the approaching group of meteorites, Earth would no longer be in the sights of the group, having moved on in its path around the sun. Best regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 7/6/2006 10:00:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: stupid question: can the brenham fall actually be two falls. could it have been several large stones traveling in a group, one caught by earth at one time and the second one caught on a later pass? or is it too highly coincidental that they both landed in kansas in the same area that makes this impossible? thanks for indulging my ignorance. take care susan patton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dealers and their duty
Good morning, All, Walter Newton wrote: ...But why a when a dealer does not leave you feedback, is beyond me. I would imagine that a dealer should understand that user input on Ebay is a lifeline to developing a good selling relationship with users who are considering purchasing something from the dealer. My opinion has always been, better no feedback than bad feedback! E-mails politely demanding positive feedback for a transaction will eventually result in a less than positive response and a sullied record. Don't sweat the small stuffafter all, it's about meteorites, not kudos, really it is. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, GA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay Ad...closing in 2 hours
Good evening Folks, Just a quick note to let you know that I have about a dozen meteorite auctions closing in about 2 hours. There are still some good deals available. Here is a link to the auctions: Litig8nshark Have a great week ahead. Best regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale
Good day Steve and All,
The link to the website with the new NWA specimen doesn't appear to be working...at leastwith my browser.
But, on another note, since whendid an NWA, H5 specimen, evenwith nice metal and "slightly brecciated" become a "very inexpensive(ly)" deal at a cost of as much as $50.00 per gram? ("0.4 grams $20 1.2 cm"). Perhaps I'd understand if I could access the photo of the 65.7 gram slice. Then again, maybe not. I wonder what I am missing here. Someone please educate me.
Have a great day All,
Best Regards,
Paul Martyn
In a message dated 3/18/2004 8:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good morning list.I have just aquired a 65.7 gram full slice of a brandnew NWA piece.I also have 4 small pieces which I am offering to anyone whowants to buy them,very inexpensively.
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Good evening Folks, Just a quick note to let you all know that I have listed 30-plus auctions this evening, and which end Sunday. There is something for everyone. A beautiful full slice of Chinga, a fusion crusted specimen of Zag with a cut and polished face, micromount storage boxes, a signed and numbered North American meteorite map, and numerous other meteorite specimens. Almost all the auctions are starting at $3.95 or less; and no reserve. Combined shipping is available, as always. Just look for seller "Litig8nshark" on eBay, or click the following link: eBay.com Seller List: litig8nshark Have a great evening. Best Regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] Tessera Meteorite: Question for the experts....
Good evening Folks, In readingMark's webpage about the Tessera specimen, and what has been reported in the Met Bull, something occurred to me. Matteo reported to the Met Bull that 9 fusion crusted specimens of Tessera were found within a few meters of one another. Now granted, I am not a meteorite hunter, but looking back on the reports of other finds, never have I heard of 9 separate fusion crusted individuals being found in the same immediate area, much less within a few meters of each other. Now, if the meteorite shatters on impact, sure, I'd expect that you'd find pieces of that mass in the same area. However, there would be clear signs of the meteorite fracturing into several or more pieces. Perhaps even a meteorite puzzle to piece back together. I thought back to the Park Forest fall. With the hundreds of specimens found from that fall, how many individuals were found within a few meters of one another? I don't know that answer. (Park Forest hunters..what do you have to say?) Well, experts, is the distribution of Tessera a bit strange or am I uninformed when it comes to a meteorite strewn field? Best Regards, Paul
Re: [meteorite-list] space slag
Good evening Folks, Not to trivialize the tremendously important scientific discovery of million year old cosmic mining slag(dare I say 10 million year old slag?)..but the thought occurs to me...perhaps we should introduce the finder of the "slag" to the now, near-infamous, finder of theFrass meteorite. Think of the advances in meteoritics that would follow. Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 2/14/2004 5:40:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out the email that the "Space Slag" freak emailed me.I feel for the scientists that put up with this garbage.Mike Farmer
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1845 PM PST Good evening Folks, Just a quick note to let you all of you know that I have just uploaded about a dozen nice specimens to eBay.they will launch (if eBay does their job)in about an hour and they will end about 7:30 PM PST tomorrow (Thursday, January 29). Yes, a one day auction. I have been away from eBay for a number of months in the meteorite category. As always, you can depend on my personal guarantee for authenticity and quality of specimens. There are a number of specimens to choose from including witnessed falls, a thin section of Allende, achondrites,the Main Mass of DaG 580, some specimens with fusion crust and a small specimen of Martian. Look for my auctions on eBay under seller: "litig8nshark".as always, I hope that you are pleased with the selectionand most of the specimens have a minimum bid of just $4.95no reserve on any of them. Happy New Year and Best Regards, Paul
Re: [meteorite-list] marines....OT
Good day Folks, In response to a few of the posts to this thread, and to perhapsaddress some possible misunderstandings, I feel compelled respond. Based on my own experiences, I can say without equivocation, or mental reservation,that the reasons men and women join the United States Armed Services are as varied as those individuals themselves. While certainly there are "underprivileged" members of the armed services, and that may have been a reason for their enlistment, it is certainly not a socioeconomic traitshared byall service members. Many service members are drawn to duty by feelings of obligation to their country and their extended families, to educational opportunities both in and after service as well as the opportunity to learn more about themselves and their fellow brothers and sisters around the globe. Military service, at least in the US,is nota panacea for a depressed socioeconomic standing. Military life is often fraught with sacrifice, both personal and financial. There is opportunity, true. Concomitantly, there is risk. Risk of injury or death in times of conflict, risk of physical separation from family and loved ones and risk of being placed in a position where duty conflicts with personal feelings regarding what is right and wrong. I believe that the "cause of the USA" is a fluid thing. One which swings like a pendulum; often depending on the politics of the dayboth within and withoutthe US. The term "freedom" is often bantered about as the "cause" for the US military being in existence. But "freedom" means different things to different people and depends on their mind set. Freedom to a dictator may represent the ability to run "their" country, and to treat "their" people as "they" see fit.a viewpoint diametrically opposedby others in the world who see it more as an individual right. A right to be safe inone's person,one's opinions andone's beliefs. As long as the inhabitants of our planet have disparate "causes" to champion there will continue to be conflict. Both political and physical. If wecan agreethat glorification of members of the military is not the same as glorification of the political motives of the country they serve, then I believe it is appropriate to glorify them. We can recognize those military members for the personal sacrifices they are making; not necessarily for the "cause" theyare ultimately serving. Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah, Georgia In a message dated 1/7/2004 9:54:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With all due respect for the people serving in the US army: Most ofthem, I believe, do not join the marines because they want to sacrificetheir life for the "cause of the USA" (what's it anyway?), but becauseit's about the only chance for the underprivileged to get something likesocial security, education and medical care. There's no need to glorifytheir service, as little as there is need to ridicule it. Just my 2c _ Best regards,Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems
[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group
Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between membersaside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing,of a group which, in the recent past has essentially dedicated itself to advancing the science of meteoritics. Maybe Rosie, and a few like her,were right some months ago whenthey ceased participating. There will always be personal differences among such a diverse group of people. But in my humble opinion, that is no reason to throw the baby outwith the bath wateror to advocate it. The advancement of science has no room for the exclusion of qualified individuals based solely upon personal caprice. It is just ignorant. Have a great week all. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for subscribe send a email to this address and I seeif accept or not the person:
Re: [meteorite-list] IT'S BACK TO THE WORK FORCE
Good evening Folks, And how, pray tell, is this meteorite related? While I happy for you Steve, please be reasonable! Your personal trials and tribulations are not automatically suited for this list simply because you are a member. Happy hunting All. Best regards, Paul In a message dated 11/12/2003 8:12:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list.I just want to let everyone know that I got a new job.I will startthe 17th.It will be good to get back to the work force. steve
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock Springs Reporting...or make a good list or OUCH!
Good evening Dave, and Folks, Dave, you could be a novelist if you put your heart into it; presuming "meteorites" were involved. (there I said the "word" that makes this post "legal"). I feel badfor your misfortune but loved the story. What a hunt! Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 11/9/2003 7:24:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear List;After two weeks of snowy weather, I have ran to the wild places to attempt a meteorite hunt. Knowing that recent snows would hamper hunting I methodically processed locations where south facing slopes would offer the chance for bare ground. I decided to also have a primary rock hunting trip so I would come back with some kind of specimens even if no meteorites were located. This is always a good approach, an empty sack is demoralizing.Off to the wilds with camera, lunch, extra clothes, fuel, firearm, GPS unit, maps, water and digging tools. The further from town I traveled, the more snow. After about 40 miles of I-80, then 15 miles of gravel road, I get to a plateau where I hope to search for meteorites and oolites containing ostracods. I stopped at the main line of the Union Pacific Railroad and witnessed a fresh Vaca Murta and thought of my other meteorite friends that find dead cows.There is 6 inches of snow everywhere but the steepest south facing slopes, which are so slick with fresh mud that there is no traction there. Still the plan goes forward. No oolites in the good spot, too much snow, fell in two vacant badger holes that were covered by the snow. Reminds me of a three stooges film clip. I heard two coyotes singing the blues over the cloudy day and imminent snow fall. I see a rabbit, let's have a little hasenpfeffer for dinner, so I enhance my rock hunt with another hunt. Bang, thumb is ripped open by slide action of ultimate personal protection device, first time in my shooting sports life (over 20 years of hand gun shooting, including competition). No band aids in the van. Bled like a stuck pigthe bed of my thumb nail is ripped open. Well, I wanted to get out of the house for some adventure...here we go. Arm feels like it is falling off. Rabbit is laughing, standing up on his back legs egging me on. I submit to my stupidity and depart the scene.I find a small creek bed that has some exposed rocks protruding from the snow. I collected about 50 pounds of stream tumbled stromatolites and oolitic chert (with the ostracods, really nice stuff). Cow pies present, watch my step.I dilly-dallied around a bit more in a few more locations of top rock on a couple of small plateau's and did manage to get some serious meteorite hunting accomplished. I did not get stuck, the road was getting much muddier as the afternoon progressed. No meteorites but did find a few cretaceous iron concretions. Now, this was worth the trip, the pain, and the demoralization. Bare ground to search after two weeks of snow was good for my meteoritic soul.I can check off one more location that I found no meteorites at. About twenty square yards in two spots.Next trip: band aids, don't mess with the animals, bring companion for witness to stupidity.Very best Sunday,Dave Freeman, Adventurer!IMCA # 3864Emperor of Stromatolitesebay user ID mjwy
Re: [meteorite-list] Stange Happenings in the Shop
Hi Adam, Greg and Folks, Was this the Hippie that was selling the "magic cleaning solution" in the glass lined stainless steel/Titanium containerswhich read "WARNING: DO NOT MIX WITH WATER"? LOL Just wondered. Glad everything turned out OK. Best regards, Paul In a message dated 11/8/2003 12:13:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear List Members,"We had a pretty strange thing happen in our shop today. We purchased someso-called "magic cleaning potion" at the Denver show from a hippie that hadbeautiful mineral specimens for sale. He told us the stuff works great forremoving calcite from minerals. We asked about meteorites and he said itwould be safe because it is natural, does not pollute and is a "greenproduct". We mixed up a batch with some distilled water as he directed andthrew a handful of Taza irons into the solution. What happened next waspretty scary."
[meteorite-list] EBay analysis (preliminary)
Goodday Folks, I have been following the thread about thecompilation of statistical information regarding the sales/purchases of meteorites on eBay. Personally, I found the compilation both interesting and informative and I have no objection to having been included inthe publishedcompilation. That having being said, I'd like to preface the following by stating that while I am by no means an expert in "cyber law", I am an attorney. I must admit that when "robots" were mentioned in a recent post to the list I had to do some research to try and figure out exactly what a robot was and what it did. I don't claim to be a computer programer/analyst either. Now that I have arough idea what a "robot" is and what it does I'd like to share some of my thoughts regarding the compilation of statistical information from eBay. I accessed eBay's policy regarding the use of robots on it's site. I agree withone writer'sproposition that one of thereasons eBay prohibits robots from accessing its site, in some circumstances, is to prevent a drain on its server. However, I can't entirely agree that that is eBay's primary goal. In October 1997, eBay was involved in a serious dispute with Onsale, a competitor, over Onsale's use of a robot program to harvest the email addresses of eBay users. (Note that in 1997 eBay made it much easier than it is today to access the email addresses of members.) Isuspect that it was subsequent to this dispute that eBay placed in its User Policy the prohibition against use of robots, spiders etc. It would appear that eBay is also interested in protecting itself from what it views as unfair competition. As can seen below in a paste of the pertinent part of eBay's user policy regarding Access and Interference, the use of robots is clearly prohibited absent express written permission from eBay. The policy language goes further in requiring that, even with eBay's express written permission to use a robot for the creation of a derivative work (compilation of statistical information) on any other member other than yourself, you are obligated to obtain the express written permission of the "third party," which I interpret to mean the party who's information you are seeking to compile. This, I believe, is intended, at least in part,to provide for some level of privacy for eBay members. From a strict reading ofeBay's policy language one could reasonably infer that it is not only the public dissemination of the compilation of statistical information that is being prohibited, absent the required express written permission of eBay and the third party affected, but also the private (unpublished) compilation itself. However, I sense thatthe prohibition of the compilation of statistical information for the purely private use of the compiler might not be enforceable in court andmight be attacked as being vague and overbroad given that eBay's softwareactually provides tools that allow for the compilation of such information. Granted, without the use of a robot program the compilation would be very time consuming,if not entirely impractical. Finally, putting asideany legal implications (as far as eBay is concerned)of compiling statistical information about eBay members, the publication of such information has the potential for what some might consider abuse. As an example, because the sale of items may have tax consequences fora sellerinsome countries, I can imagine a scenario where one disgruntled member might use, or threaten to use, the compiled information to the detriment of another member. Just a thought. The preceding has not been intended to provide legal advise regarding the compilation of statistical information from eBay resources. Ithas simply been my thoughts and personal opinions. Should you have specific questions along this line you should consult with an expert in "cyber law". Have a great day All. Best Regards, Paul Access and Interference. The Site contains robot exclusion headers. Much of the information on the Site is updated on a real time basis and is proprietary or is licensed to eBay by our users or third parties. You agree that you will not use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access the Site for any purpose without our express written permission. Additionally, you agree that you will not: (i) take any action that imposes, or may impose in our sole discretion an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure; (ii) copy, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute or publicly display any content (except for Your Information) from the Site without the prior expressed written permission of eBay and the appropriate third party, as applicable; (iii) interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site; or (iv) bypass our robot exclusion headers or other measures we may use to prevent or restrict access to the Site.
Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds
Good morning Geoff, Steve and all, At the risk of boring some of you, I would like to shed some light on a party's expectations of a refund from the legal perspective. Absent any specified agreement regarding refunds, and for transactions between dealers (Merchants), in the United States the Uniform Commercial Code sets forth both requirements of the purchase contract and the remedies available to an unhappy participant. While there are a number of exceptions within the Code, the following is essentially a brief overview of the Code as it applies to this situation. "Merchants" (Dealers) are defined as those folks who regularly deal in goods of the kind, (In this case meteorites) or, who hold themselves out as having special knowledge in the area of the goods. Between Merchants, enforceable agreements for the sale/purchace of goods with a price of more than $500.00 must be in writing. The Merchant/buyer typically has the right to inspect the goods upon receipt and if the goods are not conforming (i.e., not suited for the purpose intended or, in the case of meteorites not the meteorite specified in the agreement) the buyer may timely notify the seller of the rejection of the goods and is entitled to a refund. However, upon notification of rejection by the buyer, the seller has a reasonable amount of time to "cure" the defect complained of (ship the proper specimen) or enter into a modified agreement which each party can agree to. If the Merchant/buyer has already created a substantial change in the goods (such as cutting, polishing or varnishing) then the buyer will not be allowed to reject the goods. One of the exceptions to this rule might be where the cutting was part of the inspection process and revealed that the goods were not as represented by the seller (i.e., buyer contracted for a pallasite and received a mesosiderite). Absent a sound reason for rejection (buyer's remorse doesn't count) the transaction is valid and enforceable. That having been said, the common sense approaches articulated in many of the previous posts to this thread may be more important from a practical standpoint than the Uniform Commercial Code regulations. Have a clear return/refund policy. Consider the effect down the line (your reputation and desire for repeat customers) of bowing to an unreasonable request for a refund versus standing on your rights. Have a great weekend. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 6/28/2003 8:02:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As we all know, the value of meteorites is in a constant flux. Dealers should know this most of all. Steve's customer IS a dealer, although I use this in the broad sense of the word. He is only looking to maximize his profit by asking Steve for a refund.
Re: [meteorite-list] No Access To Universty of Arkansas Museum Collection Wit...
Good afternoon all, It is a terrible shame that the U of A museum is slated to be closed down for lack of funding to pay for the curating of the some seven million items in the museum. It seems to me that with seven million specimens/artifacts that a small bit of cannibalization might be in order. Certainly, the university could sell off some of the museum's collection to raise the funds to keep the museum operating, at least in the short term. Depending on the size the meteorite collection, and with some of the larger meteorite dealers in existence today, that meteorite collection alone might have a significant impact in reducing the museum's deficit. Just a thought. I wonder whether anyone at the university considered this as a possible solution. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 6/19/2003 1:45:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.nwaonline.net/300773699760853.bsp No Access To UA Museum Collection Without Staff, Director Says Gentry: Items would be prone to damage without proper oversight By Johnathon Williams The Morning News (Arkansas) June 19, 2003 FAYETTEVILLE -- Johnnie Gentry, director of the University Museum, said Wednesday that no access should be provided to the 7 million items in the museum's collection without a professional staff to manage it. The current collection staff at the University of Arkansas must be retained if anyone is to use the collection, he said. "We have the staff. We must find the money to keep them employed. That's the answer," he said. UA administrators announced Monday that they will close the museum and lay off eight staff members at the end of this year. The decision came as part of a budget cut in the Fulbright College of Arts and Sciences. All colleges were ordered to cut 2 percent of their budgets by university administrators. Fulbright College will save about $340,000 by eliminating the museum, more than half of its required 2 percent.
Re: [meteorite-list] chihuahua city info
In a message dated 6/15/2003 2:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey to all the the people who know alot about the mexican meteorites!Who knows anything about Chihuahua city?Again please let me know.And is there any available? steve "Yo quiero Taco Bell" said the chihuahua. That's about all I know about Chihuahua. Best Regards, Paul
Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer
Good evening Steve, and all, Steve, you make a very interesting proposition. Let me get this right. You want something you don't already have and, it has to be a hard to get "item." Fair enough. I will trade you my ex-wife for your 3 specimens. My ex fits both of your criteria (hard to get and, you don't already have her..at least I'm pretty sure of that you don't). ;-) I'll email you a photo on request. Shipping expenses will be paid by the receiver. As always, sold/traded as is. No warranties, express or implied. Let me know your thoughts. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 6/11/2003 6:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list, I know I have plugged this before, but I'm going to try 1 more time on this trade.I am offering my 1/2 gram slice of honolulu, 9 gram cut of ahumada (monnig number), small micro of cat mountain (15x10x5)mm, and a micro of albion olivine crytals for trade.Let me know if we can make this one work.I'm looking for stuff I do not have, prefferably hard to get items. steve arnold, chicago
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Item #2175659927
Good day Steve and Folks,
While I didn't become directly involved in the Canyon Diablo controversy on the List I must admit that I held strong opinions as to the meteorwrong status of the 5 specimens in question.
Consequently, I will be joining Steve for a sample of that crow. However, I will be bringing a bottle of Wild Turkey to wash the crow down as I have found that it is a better accompaniment to crow when served chilled, straight up.
Kudos to Lunar Ray.
Best Regards,
Paul
In a message dated 5/29/2003 12:44:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, the question is resolved.
Irrespective of the very poor pictures posted with
this auction, my apologies to Mr. "Lunar Ray"
Arkansas, for disputing his claims.
{Think I might have to wash down some "crow" with a
bottle of Canadian Whiskey :-( Anyone care to join me
at the table? }
Re: [meteorite-list] name that dawg!
Good afternoon all, I like the idea of Forest Grump as a name for the dog. Any dog that would chase, capture and chew a ricocheting meteorite has got to be in a bad mood by the time he bites into it. OUCH! Best regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] phone numbers
Good evening all, Steve, Are you offering to put all of us up in your home for the weekend? I might just fly up for the experienceand a couple of the new specimens. ;-) Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 4/1/2003 4:22:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list for all who are coming to chicago for the fall this weekend, you can get in touch with me either at home or my cell phone.Home is 1-847-289-8856 or my cell #is 1-847-804-8810.Feel free to call up to 11:00pm chicago time.Call when ever during that time. I would to hear from you. steve arnold chicago
Re: [meteorite-list] DAG 396 classification?
In a message dated 3/30/2003 9:10:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello List, does anybody know the classification of DAG396? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 Good afternoon Tom and all, The Bulletin indicates that DaG 396, found in 1998, is classified as L6 S6 W1 with the TKW at 388 grams and with 3 pieces found. Best Regards, Paul Best Regards, Paul
Re: [meteorite-list] I MADE A MISTAKE
Good evening Steve, and all, I am interested in obtaining a specimen of this fall. However, Steve, I am a bit confused about what you have for sale. Reading between the lines it looks like you have 26 micro specimens with a total mass of about 2 grams for sale. Correct? And at $40.00 a piece it looks like you are asking about $500.00 per gram. Have I missed something? Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:48:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello again list. I found out I have only 26 micro's for sale, but I found out that I have 3 grams.The 1.2 gram individuals I have I am keeping for my collection. The other 2 grams are forsale.Again it $ 40 per micro.Available now forsale!!!Let me know who wants one.They are all good size. steve Most piece's are fusion crust.
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
I strongly second Jeoff's suggestion. ;-) Paul In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:56:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike posted: I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and knees in the middle of Winslow St. Dear Mike: We definitely need to see those pictures. : ) geoff N.
[meteorite-list] Re: possible lunar: High Quality Picture
Good evening Mohamed and Friends, Sorry Mohamed. While I am always cautiously optimistic about possible Lunar meteorite finds I am afraid that I must agree at this point with my learned colleagues. The photomicrograph seems to reveal that your find is not likely a lunar meteorite. I was most interested in seeing the white clast material under magnification. Having now seen it, it does not appear to be similar to the clast material I have seen in authenticated Lunar specimens. Don't give up your quest for meteorites because of a few failures though. As seasoned meteorite hunters will tell you, meteorwrongs are all part of the process. I have read some really good advice directed your way by List Members in the past couple of days. I am sure that much of it will be helpful to you. Keep up the search and you will eventually find your meteorite. Best Regards to all, Paul Mohamed wrote: A couple of good microphotographs at 20X and 40X might be helpful too. Thanks Paul for your reply. Here is a HQ picture (1MB) with about 5X magnification. http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/pln/hq.JPG Sincerely Mohamed H. Yousef
[meteorite-list] Historic Cape York Meteorite Sale/Presentation Box.
Good evening Folks, Cape York is, and has been, selling for about $10.00 per gram on eBay in the recent past. For List Members only, I have available 5 extremely nice specimens, attractively mounted, at just $5.00 per gram: 9.35 g 21 X 21 X 2.5 mm $46.75 9.44 g 22 X 16 X 3 mm$47.20 18.34 g 36 X 20 X 3 mm $91.70 18.86 g 33 X 20 X 3 mm, and $94.30 26.53 g 52 X 20 X 3 mm $132.65 Each specimen will come attractively mounted in a 6 1/2 X 8 1/2 inch Riker Presentation Box with a glass lid. Your specimen will also be set within in a customized photomicrograph of the Widmanstatten pattern of the Cape York meteorite with the mass and identification information printed thereon. These specimens have been etched on one side to bring out the beauty of this meteorite. For List Members, shipping is free of charge via Priority mail in the US and Airmail Letter Post to other destinations. As an example of what you will receive I have uploaded photos of the 18.86 gram specimen to the following site: http://hometown.aol.com/litig8nshark2/index.html If you have any questions please feel free to email me. As always, first requests get pick of the litter (so to speak). Best Regards, Paul Martyn IMCA # 1211
[meteorite-list] Last eBay Listing of Meteorites Before X-Mas
Good evening Folks, Just a quick note to let you all know that I have listed 20 meteorite specimens to start on eBay this evening. Nothing horribly spectacular (Lunar or SNCs) but, most are infrequently seen on eBay--great deals and, most starting at $0.95 with no reserve. All of these are 3 day auctions so that I can hopefully get the specimens to you by Christmas. One specimen of note is NWA 1242, also previously sold as Sahara 85001, a wonderful mesosiderite. To see these auctions as they hit eBay look for auctions by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy holidays to all of you. May there be peace on Earth. Best Regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] lost creek
Good evening Steve and All, Lost Creek is a wonderful meteorite. However, it has been my observation that the "value" of a meteorite is usually dictated by supply and demand. A quick look at eBay shows that of the 4 specimens of Lost Creek closing recently, the Lost Creek meteorite hasn't even generated one sale at a price as low as $2.75 per gram in the last 30 days; and that price was for a specimen of less than 30 grams. Larger specimens historically sell for less than smaller ones. Just an observation. Best Regards to All, Paul Martyn IMCA #1211
Re: [meteorite-list] Thankful For Meteorite and
Good afternoon/evening Folks, At the risk of being accused of sentimentalism, and on this day of Thanksgiving here in the USA, I confess that I am thankful for my family and friends, for the kind and courteous assistance and encouragement in the field of meteoritics that I have received from so many of you over the years, for the often humorous jibes that seem to flow in good spirit on this list and, for the world wide scientific, philanthropic and just plain friendly communication relating to meteoritics that I have been able to experience in the recent past as a member of this community. As always, Best Regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] Feldspar minerals in the inclusions in earthly/lunar bas...
Good evening Folks, I must say that I am grateful that I am not paying for the current lesson in meteoritics. I couldn't afford it. Education like this is invaluable. Thank you very much Mark for your expertise. Best Regards to all of you, Paul In a message dated 11/8/2002 10:08:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Minerals, regardless of where they are from, earth, moon or mars, are still those minerals and as such have properties that will identify them as such. I guess what I'm saying is that the elements of which the minerals are made of are the same, no matter if from here or there, and so, the minerals which are made of them will be made according to the same rules. Some form only under high presure and temperature, others form onder other conditions of temperature and pressure. And! some can only form in the presence of water. So, from these knowns, researchers know that, from extensive evaluation of earths lava fields and the plutonic outcroppings ( a pluton is magmatic material which has never been extruded on the surface and is exposed after millenia of weathering and erosion), the stoney irons cannot be from earth for we see no occurances of olivine and metal together "on" earth. Therefore, knowing how they formed individually (temps and pressures) they summise that these meteorites come from a core mantle boundry. Something we have not any first hand proof of. Inclusions, on the other hand, of feldspars, are quite common in cooled magmas and the resulting stone is called a porphory if the inclusions are large enough to be seen and are relatively well formed. Other tests, such as fizzing in hcl only provides a indication that a basic mineral (carbonate or such) is present. The fact that you, if I'm understanding right, are seeing what appears to be feldspars, most likely points to a magmatic origin. vesicle size is not a determinate of being magmatic or not, andesites can often have extemely small vesicles. And, if I'm not wrong, I believe in Sweden is quite a bit of plutonic rock, so its probable to be able to find lavas since plutons are but cooled magma chambers. Hope this helps, long winded as it is. Mark
[meteorite-list] Have PayPal, will buy... Waingaromia, IIIAB
Good evening Folks, Please excuse the intrusion. I have a customer looking for a micromount of the Waingaromia, IIIAB meteorite. Half a gram to a couple of grams would make his day. Please email me off list if you can help. Have a great weekend Best Regards, Paul Martyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] crystals in meteorites?
Good afternoon Folks, While we are talking about crystal formations in meteorites let's not forget the famous meteorite, Ibitira, with crystal formations in the individual vesicles. Under magnification the vesicles look like they hold baby geodes. Quite spectacular! Best Regards, Paul Martyn Savannah In a message dated 10/17/2002 2:20:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. quoted: "this CAN NOT be a meteorite because meteorites don't have crystals"? Whoever said so hasn't seen Mo(u)nt Tazerzait or Baszkowka. The vugs deem with crystals and you feel like looking into a quartz druse at high magnification. Regards, Bernd
[meteorite-list] New eBay listings. Lunar, SNCs etc.
Good day Folks, Just a quick note to let you know that I listed 15 meteorite auctions last night on eBay. They include Lunar, SNC, Howardite, Eucrite and other exceptional specimens; and all at affordable "Buy it Now" prices. Take a look when you get a chance. Have a great week. Best Regards, Paul Martyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] further proof that we know a whole lot less than we thin...
Very interesting observation Mr. Hodges, Thank you. It would appear that the advancing knowledge we gain through the exploration of our solar system just indicates how little we really know about it in the first place. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 10/7/2002 4:37:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/10/07/ice.object/index.html Here's an interesting tid-bit about another large K belt object with a circular orbit, making it more "planet" like than Pluto. It's kind of scary to think that something that big could get missed for so long by so many eyes to the sky.-Edward Edward R. Hodges www.meteoriteonline.com IMCA #4173
Re: [meteorite-list] THE REAL DEAL
Good evening Folks, Please.!someone sell Mr. Arnold, of Chicago, a specimen of Cat Mountainor a specimen of Dog Pylewhatever it takes. Best (Humorous) Regards, Paul In a message dated 10/7/2002 6:38:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello all. I am so gung ho for cat mountain, I'm throwing this out to all meteorite dealers, collectors, hunters, or just plain people who like meteorites. I am willing to pay $1000.00 for a 5 to 12 gram piece of cat mountain meteorite. I do not care where you live in this world. I know someone has some, some where. This , to me, is one of the most unique meteorites to fall. This is my holy grail. Please get back to me if you have some, and want to make a $1000 guarnteed! No personal checks, no cash, CERTIFIED CHECK guarnteed. Also there has to be a photo with it. I guarntee you, this is the real deal. The more the better. steve arnold, chicago, usa!
Re: [meteorite-list] Ni-free
Good evening Folks, NWA 1109, Ni-freeor almost? Sounds like a specimen to have; which I don't. Do any of you have a specimen of this intriguing meteorite for sale? Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 9/20/2002 7:27:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everybody, In this case Ni-Free metal means 6/100th of one percent or .06%. In other words trace amounts. This was such an odd result that we measured it several times and confirmed it. We also confirmed that we were analyzing the actual metal and not some other mineral. The nickel in the metal of NWA 1109 just makes a small peak (about 3.2%) on the spectrograph and would be considered kamacite. I hope this helps, Adam
[meteorite-list] Last of my LA 001 (sale)
Good evening folks, I have just listed the last of the LA 001 Martian specimens that I have available for sale on eBay. All specimens are affordable, albeit small. List members will get a 20% discount. If you win, let me know you are a list member. It is that simple. And, shipping via Priority mail (in the US) or Airmail elsewhere, is free for members. The specimens were just posted so you may need to look for them under my eBay ID. Ya'll have a great day. Best Regards, Paul eBay ID: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[meteorite-list] Last of the LA 001, good deals.
Good evening Folks, I just posted the last of my unsold LA 001 specimens that I have remaining, on eBay. Very reasonable "buy it now" prices. As eBay is always behind in posting sale listings, you can find the 3 listings right now by searching for auctions by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on eBay.. Best Regards to all! Paul
[meteorite-list] Last LA 001 specimen I have for SALE.
Good evening folks, I will be brief. I am offering the last part slice of LA 001, Martian Shergottite, I have available (not listed presently on eBay at a much higher reserve) and, at a good discount. Sorry, no fusion crust on this specimen. The asking price is just $250.00, free insured shipping included for those that are willing to have me declare the value of the specimen for insurance purposes. The specimen has a mass of 0.224 grams, dimensions of approximately 8 X 6 X 4 mm and will be shipped in a 1 1/2 inch membrane specimen box. A photo of the specimen can be viewed at the following address: http://members.aol.com/litig8nshark/images/laa.jpg This specimen would be a wonderful "hole filler" for your collection or, a nice upgrade. PayPal, personal check, money order or cash are all fine as payment. May you all have a wonderful evening and a great weekend. Best Regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: a bad N.E. Meteoritical Services experience?
Good evening Folks, I was very concerned today when a customer wrote that he hadn't received the specimen I shipped 19 days ago to Germany via Airmail Letter Post. From the sounds of the shipping complaints coming from the list tonight I am in part relieved and, in part, frustrated. September 11 may be part of the problem. However, I have always experienced periodic problems with delivery times, both in and out of country, with the US Postal Service. I can't comment on the Canadian postal system. I'm not sure what the answer is. Do we in the US go to a more expensive service such as UPS or FedEx? I dislike the thought of my customers spending so much for shipping. But, reality is, UPS and FedEx can be traced much more reliably for shipments from the US to other countries than can the USPS. Sad, but true. As I recall, the USPS has 60 or 90 days to tell you what happened to a package mailed via Registered mail to another country that never arrived. That just makes for unhappy customers. Another dilemma which we all know about, and many attempt to avoid, are the Custom laws of the different countries. It does no good for a customer to request shipping via the USPS and then ask that a reduced value be declared on the package. That frustrates the sender's ability to insure the package. No insurance means that someone loses if the package doesn't arrive. I am sure the "risk" is worth it until the unfortunate inevitable occurs. And, I am certain that it happen more often than we hear about. As both a buyer and a seller of meteorite specimens I would personally rather pay the duty on a specimen when it arrives than to lose the specimen to the postal system, or Customs, and likely be out the entire amount of money I paid in the first place. I solicit your thoughts and suggestions. Have a great evening all. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 8/29/2002 7:36:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have the same problem here in HI, but it's not restricted to meteorites. Anything that looks interesting has about a 1 in 5 chance of getting 'cockaroached' between here and there. For some reason, mail from Canada seems to have a particularly rough time getting here -- just ask Dean! Things get delayed up to 2 months, and I still haven't gotten a piece I was expecting from Eduardo back in May (no reflection on him, I'm sure.) To sum up, there DOES seem to be a backlog in the Post Office, and we should live in fear and loathing as to what might happen when the Yule season rolls around.
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay About Me page, auctions and Denver
Good evening all, Rosie, Rosie Rosie, I can imagine my mailbox filled to capacity in the morning with blonde jokes. ;-) Now you've let the cat out of the bag. Ya'll have a good evening. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 8/29/2002 12:40:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have long blonde hair.. does that mean I am a full fledged meteorite collector :-) Rosie
[meteorite-list] Looking for Twodot to buy or trade
Good afternoon Folks, My brother, who lives in Montana has his birthday the end of August and I am looking for a nice part slice of the Twodot, H6 (Montana) meteorite as a gift. If you have a 5 to 10 gram specimen and are interested in a direct sale or, a trade, please contact me off-list. Thanks to all and, have a great weekend. Best Regards, Paul Martyn
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest #6 - FREE NWA869
Good evening Mark, and all, Mark, correct me if I am wrong but, if we email our entries (Suggestions for your #7 contest) to The List, won't everybody on the list, in theory, have access to all of the potential contest ideas in advance? Then again, maybe I am being as dumb as a rocermeteorite. Just a thought. Ya'll have a great evening. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 8/15/2002 6:24:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello All, As you can guess by the titleits Meteorite Contest #6. The contest Come up with a contest ideal for me...for Meteorite Contest #7. Something anyone can enter reguardless of collection size or knowledge level preferrably. I will end this contest on monday. E-mail entries to the list please. The prize... A 98.8 gram NWA869 individual with some crust. Everybody who enters will at least recieve an NWA869 micromount. Free shipping to all. Thanks, Mark Bostick "The Big Collector"
