Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Really ?
If I give a f*** about every shit out there starting from politics and 
ending on licence agreement on a DVD movie, I propably ends in asylum or as 
radical islam isis member alredy killed after You know what
No, this is a tool. Peoples kill using knives, so You stop using knives and 
blame anyone who use them  ? No. Or maybe yes, watching how crazy peoples 
are I can belive even in this. And I dont blame anyone here. I have enough 
examples on every news, watching this moron in Poland.


The whole drama started in answer to my invitation to my F** 
group(same as before). You dont like it, You dont go there.


End of discusion.
End of any emails here.
Im log out
But You know where to find me and latest informations from meteorite 
community


Have a nice day everyone.




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"And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives"


And there you go.

You don't care. Enough said.

It doesn't matter what the ownership of that site believes, just as
long as they give you a handy platform to post meteorite photos.

Nice priorities there. Get off your high horse.

I'm done.



On 6/15/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.


My God Michael, dont try to inwent wheel once again. Why You try 
complicate


everything ?
Yes You can post Your media on site X, I can post media on site Y, Greg 
can


use Z cloud and post links to them
At the end it will be like we need to go somewhere, ofcourse login to our
accounts, accept cookies, experience different layont, web page design 
etc.


On FB its all in one, it work good, it work on every platform and device,
its for free, fast and never dies.
And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives, what he is
doing or if he is black or white as long as he dont say that meteorites 
are


illegal on his site. Its a tool like anything else.

There is one big limit. Chinese cant use it becouse its banned in china. 
But


its not banned in Morocco or Lybia
Can You imagine that I speak with guys from algeria or lybia, they share
photos beying in the same moment in the desert ?
I can speak with like 50 morocans in real-time asking for new pieces, 
they
ask me for my opinion about their specimens, we chat like good friends 
even


that I have no idea how they looks like. This is power!! The peoples.

Here You sit with 100 peoples, read one post a day and You are arguing 
that


its the best medium in the world.
Yes it was, 10 years ago. Your chice, I respect, but the best days are 
gone.


You cant disagree with that

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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I
love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable

insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
could
be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to gra

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

> What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem 
with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has 
split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either 
you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop.


There are few groups worth to look
Meteorites (3800 ppl)
Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason 
Utas

Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy !
Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou
Polandmet Meteorites  (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very 
"multimedia" guy

In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members.

thats enough to be on-line with latest news
But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so 
You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see 
what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well.


So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made 
it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same 
useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or 
whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly 
organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like 
Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy 
on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really.



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The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be. 
The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist, 
yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making 
the effort to post and contribute.


Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people 
don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts 
pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work!


Cheers,
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list

Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26
To: Roberto Vargas
Cc: bigjohns...@mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

HI Roberto,

I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL.

"Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage 
with

the community."


If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom.

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.

For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with 
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who 
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable
insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what 
could

be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
Facebook or other social media platforms."


Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an
active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My app

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

" I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have

(video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."


FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
the room.


My God Michael, dont try to inwent wheel once again. Why You try complicate 
everything ?
Yes You can post Your media on site X, I can post media on site Y, Greg can 
use Z cloud and post links to them
At the end it will be like we need to go somewhere, ofcourse login to our 
accounts, accept cookies, experience different layont, web page design etc.


On FB its all in one, it work good, it work on every platform and device, 
its for free, fast and never dies.
And I completly DONT GIVE A SHIT who own it, what he belives, what he is 
doing or if he is black or white as long as he dont say that meteorites are 
illegal on his site. Its a tool like anything else.


There is one big limit. Chinese cant use it becouse its banned in china. But 
its not banned in Morocco or Lybia
Can You imagine that I speak with guys from algeria or lybia, they share 
photos beying in the same moment in the desert ?
I can speak with like 50 morocans in real-time asking for new pieces, they 
ask me for my opinion about their specimens, we chat like good friends even 
that I have no idea how they looks like. This is power!! The peoples.


Here You sit with 100 peoples, read one post a day and You are arguing that 
its the best medium in the world.
Yes it was, 10 years ago. Your chice, I respect, but the best days are gone. 
You cant disagree with that


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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
functionality.

'"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with 
the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I

love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."


Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
medium itself that created it.

"However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who 
cannot

or will not change with the times. "


If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
flag proudly.

" I believe those members have valuable
insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what 
could

be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
Facebook or other social media platforms."


Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an
active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is
not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies.
Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on
sundays.

"At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of 
us,
while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left 
here

is so small that it is really just an archive). "


I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was
exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other
dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were
pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you)
singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody
started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter.
And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms
kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors.
You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about?

Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am
going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used
to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates,
res

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification 
should include few photos of specimen….


Excellent idea, Marcin!

It exists for many mets from Antarctica already!  Why not for all the newly 
classified mets? Including thin section photos!!!


https://tinyurl.com/ybygnu78

BTW: I’m not too fond about facebook policy but facebook is where the 
meteorite world takes place!


Cheers,
Peter=


=
Yes thats what is my intention.Im surprized I didnt get that idea before.
I have tryed tooday using EoM but its made for completly different purpose, 
it accept low resolution photos and its external website.


I have right now newly classified meteorite
Northwest Africa 13337 (467 g, Mesosiderite)
It will be test if all 13 photos will be accepted and submited with it to 
Met Bull.
If it go through, I will do it with every next classification and hopefully 
some other dealers will follow.


But Im affraid many will not like to publish their specimens or they dont 
care. If they must show all necesary information to submit their specimens, 
they should also care to submit required reference material photo. Not 
becouse Cimala want to see what Mr Farmer bought. I can read it in 
classification. Its for reference and also hey, do we collecting DATA or we 
collecting meteorites. I want to be able to watch classified 50kg lunar even 
if I dont care who got it or I dont have need to own it. But this could be 
pleasure to see its photos and learn about it something more than 
geochemical data.


Most meteorites sink somewhere and we will never see them again. Or they 
will be cut and be destroyed that way forever becouse noone saved photos of 
them,


Lets start revolution :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

sorry, end of bullshit :)
I go back to Facebook
Stay safe in silence.

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Take it private if you want to argue.






On 6/14/20 at 12:46 PM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Hi Marcin,

I did not mean my reply to sound aggressive or personal towards you. I
have always liked you and never had a problem with you personally. I
just don't like Facebook (or Zuckerberg) and the increasing stagnation
of this fine mailing list is a direct result of social media sites
like FB siphoning away all of the online oxygen. Facebook seeks to
control information and discourse - a monolithic entity answerable to
nobody that exploits it's userbase as a resource to enrich itself. It
does this without regard to the collateral damage done to privacy or
civil rights. All the while, FB is doing nothing original or
innovative. Chatting, posting, groups, and every other functionality
of FB are things we can do elsewhere. We don't *need* Facebook. It
needs us.

=
Nothing personaly ofcourse.
I completly dont understand Your point of view and negative approach. I
never saw any "control information" on FB except some "jail time" for some
persons for their political comments or radical posts. Even I was 24h 
banned
once but it was becouse of my comment under political post. So this was 
not
connected to our hobby. If You stay away from bullshit like political 
posts

You are safe. It was surprize for me but I completly agree with this "jail
time". It was lesson.

I tryed to show You how to use Facebook as very valuable, friendly 
platform

but seems You are too negavite to it. Sorry to see that. Its Your right, I
understand.




This List introduced me to the meteorite world. It brought me to the
dance, so to speak. And after many years of playing the social media
field, I have come back home to my high-school sweetheart, the
Met-List.

===
me too, it was the best source of meteorite informations, sales, but it 
was
many many years ago. Its like Met Bull with classification info but 
without

photos of specimens. Its like telling that Radio auditions are better than
TV shows becouse in TV speaker is watching You. I cant agree becouse its 
up

on You how You use it. You dont have that controll watching TV or read
newspapers. You eat what they serve You there.


A lof of other collectors and dealers still congregate on FB and many
do quite well with sales. That's fine and I wish them success in what
works for them. I was one of the first handful of meteorite people to
become active on FB back in 2009 and now I am not the first to pack up
and leave that venue. I probably won't be the last. I've already
noticed that some List members are not very active on FB any more.
Maybe it's for the same reasons or they have their own reasons. But, I
think it's high time to get this mailing list rolling again. FB has
stolen the thunder for too long. The Met-List and FB don't have to be
mutually exclusive and both can co-exist. But, if Zuck and FB had
their way, venues like this mailing list would be trampled into
silence or absorbed into the Borg-like collective that is Facebook and
Amazon.

To each their own, but long live the List!
MikeG


I still cant understand what Zuckenberg have to You reading my posts in
meteorite group about my new slices.
Sorry but this sounds like irrational bullshit to me. This is soo strange
that You have used FB before so what happend ?

Nothing personaly Michael.


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On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET  wrote:
> This is not a good point. You missing it.
> Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy
> newspapers You think are worth Your money.
> Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to
> watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are
> crap,
>
> You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to
> another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or 
> You

> go
>
> to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.
>
> You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than
> cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better 
> than
> Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, 
> unpug

> Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.
>
> My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it
>

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi Marcin,

 I don't do facebook either. When it first started I was on it for 3 
months and didn't care for it so I found out how to permanently delete my 
account and never looked back. For one thing it's one of the most insecure 
sites on the internet. How many times a year do I read or hear about some 
security issue(s) with it? And there just so much nonsense on it as well. 
It's not for me. I prefer this list and/or perhaps a web site dedicated to 
meteorites. Then again I've never been a trend/fad follower. "But 
everybody is on facebook!" So what?!


Again some generalities...
How its insecure? If You are affraid of Your privacy, make account with new 
Gmail, fake personal informations, no family photos, fake phone number, so 
what then You lose if Putin hackers steal Your personal data ? :D
Your smartphone, Your credit card or mailbox in front of Your house is much 
easier to hack and contain more info than FB account will ever have. So how 
it is insecure? This is nonsense.



I choose not to use facebook. Just like I choose TV shows or movies I 
watch. If the list moves to facebook I'm out. Not that I'm a major player 
in the world of meteorites or anything, I'm just a low level, meager 
collector.


I can ensure You that what "YOU ARE FORCED" to watch in TV is much bigger 
bullshit than what "You can choose Yourself" on FB.
Maybe "everyone" are alredy there from months. Thats why there are only 
Meteorites of the Day posts.


Sorry but its above my understanding level. Maybe someone can explain me 
whats wrong with disscusing meteorites on meteorite group without hate, 
rasism, politics and stupid comments.


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Tom


On 6/14/20 10:54 AM, Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list wrote:

This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy 
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to 
watch for informations You want to see.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

all the news about them. What this will 
tell


Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I
dont think soo.

Think about this

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Hi Marcin and List,

Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because
Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing.
This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that
spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive
algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior
that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account
and couldn't be happier about it.

Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I
will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin
approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook.

Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg.

Best regards,

MikeG



On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list
dead

?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info
about
meteorites and thousand of users.

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new
classification
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites

but

reference photos submited with classification and provided by
specimen/main

mass holder.

When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few
photos

of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice.
This
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if
slice

I just bough look like reference photo.

Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but
they
stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name
in
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should
look

like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now
smartphone
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens
in
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some
representative
photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ?
Whats
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find
etc.

I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good
will

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

This is not a good point. You missing it.
Do You watch TV ? You choose TV program You want to watch. You buy 
newspapers You think are worth Your money.
Same You do on facebook. You choose Your friends and groups You want to 
watch for informations You want to see. Valuable for You. If they are crap, 
You leave groups, You unfriend stupid peoples the same as You turn to 
another TV channel if they start comercials in the middle of movie or You go 
to another page if there is stupid article or not interesting for You.


You have Your smartphone and computer? They spies You even better than 
cameras on the streets. Then why You think Facebook spies You better than 
Your phone ? If You feel unfonfortable, sell all electronic devices, unpug 
Your net cable, turn off wi-fi. No, You cant.


My understand of Facebook (I dont use any other social media) is that it is 
like TV. I watch only this channel that Im interested. Im in meteorite 
groups, not all of them, just some, in my actual car group, in car that I 
want to buy group, cats group, 3D printing groups, my photo camera groups. 
Groups that are importand to me, same as I like to watch Discovery channels, 
National Geographin or history channels in TV but I dont watch news channels 
or some other crap things in TV.


Got it ? You still can have 0 friends on facebook and You can be in 3 
valuable meteorite groups read all the news about them. What this will tell 
Zuckenberg about You ? That You like rocks. Is this something bad ? No I 
dont think soo.


Think about this

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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







Hi Marcin and List,

Yes, the List has been quiet lately and part of that is because
Facebook is strangling other venues. I don't see that as a good thing.
This List is far more preferable (IMO) than an invasive venue that
spies on your every move, filters your feed with restrictive
algorithms, takes ownership of your content, and engages in behavior
that is destructive to civil discourse. I deleted my Facebook account
and couldn't be happier about it.

Starting very soon, I will doing my part to re-invigorate this List. I
will start posting regular updates with the latest Met Bulletin
approvals and other content that I used to waste on Facebook.

Screw Facebook and Zuckerberg.

Best regards,

MikeG



On 6/14/20, Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list 
dead


?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about
meteorites and thousand of users.

I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new 
classification
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites 
but


reference photos submited with classification and provided by 
specimen/main


mass holder.

When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few 
photos


of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. 
This
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if 
slice


I just bough look like reference photo.

Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but 
they

stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should 
look


like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some 
representative

photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find 
etc.


I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good
will

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[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello list
I see there is only discusion about Pictures of the day :) Is this list dead 
?
Come to the Facebook peoples, it dont bite. Meteorite group, Polandmet 
Meteorites group and many other very valuable groups with alot info about 
meteorites and thousand of users.


I have started in Meteorites group discusion that every new classification 
should include few photos of specimen. Not in Encyclopedia of Meteorites but 
reference photos submited with classification and provided by specimen/main 
mass holder.


When Im sending type specimen to the lab I also need to send them few photos 
of entire mass wirth scale cube and also photo of cut surface, slice. This 
will give every meteorite his "face", idea what is NWA 12123214 and if slice 
I just bough look like reference photo.


Every time there is Met Bull update there are many rare specimens but they 
stay only as number. Sometimes we can find them on ebay or search name in 
Google we can find specimens in someone website. But this really should look 
like that ? We have 2020, every morocan in the desert have now smartphone 
with high quality camera. I get their photos every hour. Photos of 
incredible specimen. But they can be seen only by few of us. Why not for 
everyone and forever? Most dealers who submit big ammount of specimens in 
Met Bull sell online so it is not a problem to require some representative 
photos of specimen or the biggest mass. You dont have good camera ? Whats 
the problem? You can find 10 friends with Canon, Nikon or new Iphone to 
prepare requested pictures the same as You collect all requested 
informations about Your specimen like date of find, TKW, place of find etc.


I realy dont see a problem. This need only some discusion and some good will

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[meteorite-list] Stefan Ralew phone number

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Anyone ?
Maybe Stefan here? :D

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Re: [meteorite-list] 15? New Falls in the year 2018 - an apparent bombardment

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Remember Libya


Jan 16, 2018 - Hamburg (H4 chondrite) : Michigan USA
Feb 16, 2018 - Ablaketka (H5 chondrite) : Kazakhstan
Mar 07, 2018 - "Grays Harbor" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Pacific
Ocean (Washington coast, USA)
Apr 19, 2018 - Aba Panu (L3-6 chondrite) : Nigeria
Jun 01, 2018 - Mangui (L6 chondrite) : China (Hammer)
Jun 02, 2018 - "Central Kalahari" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Botswana
Jun 21, 2018 - Ozerki (L6 chondrite) : Russia
Jul 10, 2018 - Renchen (L5-6 chondrite) : Germany
Jul 27, 2018 - "Glendale" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Arizona USA
July 27, 2018 - Benenitra (L6 chondrite) : Madagascar
Aug 12-17?, 2018 - "Bhakkar" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Pakistan
Aug 21, 2018 - Gueltat Zemmour (L4 chondrite) : Morocco


Aug 26, 2018 - Libya L6 Chondrite


Sep 26, 2018 - Komaki (L6 chondrite) : Japan (Hammer)
Oct 28, 2018 - Ksar El Goraane (H5 chondrite) : Morocco
Dec 28, 2018 - Mhabes el Hamra (H4/5 chondrite) : Mauritania

21st Century Falls - http://galactic-stone.com/pages/falls



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[meteorite-list] AD NWA 4965 Brecciated Diogenite Lunar-like

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear list members
Tooday I like to annmounce new specimens of one of the best diogenite.
Slices was perfectly polished to mirror from one side. Each slice is very 
thin around 1.6mm only so You pay for surface area, not for grams.

Take a look
https://www.polandmet.com/product-category/3-achondrite/nwa-4965-diogenite/

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[meteorite-list] AD - Libya fall and new website

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
I look here rarely as I live with others in wonderfull Facebook meteorite 
universe full of specimen photos, fall news and interesting talks with 
friends.

But tooday is a good day to announce two fantastic news.

First is my totaly new website. Its not website anymore, its internet shop. 
This was lots of work not only with designing but also transfering specimens 
into new place with new photos and new prices :) This is a big change after 
18 years with more or less simple website.

https://www.polandmet.com/

Second news is Libya new fall. Well its not new, its 5 months old but still 
its latest one. This take a while to locate it and transfer to Morocco.
Tooday I received 8 selected specimens ... well now only 7... at wide size 
range so take a look.

https://www.polandmet.com/product-category/1-chondrite/libya-new-fall-l6/
Some say I make wonderfull photos so even if You dont buy anything its worth 
to take a deep look into them.



Now I go sleep so dont call me please, especially guyz from Kenya trying to 
sell me 2 tons of Sericho.

:D

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[meteorite-list] SALE lunar meteorite transparent slices below 1mm thin NWA 11421

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello List
I have pleasure to show You crazy lunar slices. Mostly cut below 1mm thin, 
with one side polished and in membrane boxes.

All slices show excellent translucent plagioclase,

http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa11421.htm

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[meteorite-list] Ureilites presale

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear listers
Listed exclusive presale of my 4 urelites. 
Few slices at fair price 25$/g fully prepared both side at high grids. 
http://www.polandmet.com/

Specimens in classifications, results in 1-2 months

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites360 - PULTUSK H5

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Correct URLs

METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 gram
https://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY

METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 gram
https://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ



Dear Meteorite list
I continue my work with videos and meteorites. This time I can show You 
two the same but how different specimens.
Both are Pultusk H5 fall from 30 january 1868 in Poland. Both are huge 
one. They are first and second largest found in recent years. But they are 
completly different. One is uncleaned and the other wone is cleaned.


Compare all differences. Think about fact that someone who will see that 
pretty black crusted meteorite in cabinet will never look to find that 
orange colored rusty rock in the field. That's why I organized both 
specimens for this purpose. More detailed explanation will be prepared in 
polish language from my educational page www.meteoryty.pl


Maybe these movies will help to reduce the number of granite stones 
reported as meteorites.


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 
gramhttps://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 
gramhttps://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ


Please share, comment and wait for more


Special Thanks to Dave Gheesling and Łukas Smuła. You rock !

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[meteorite-list] Meteorites360 - PULTUSK H5

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear Meteorite list
I continue my work with videos and meteorites. This time I can show You two 
the same but how different specimens.
Both are Pultusk H5 fall from 30 january 1868 in Poland. Both are huge one. 
They are first and second largest found in recent years. But they are 
completly different. One is uncleaned and the other wone is cleaned.


Compare all differences. Think about fact that someone who will see that 
pretty black crusted meteorite in cabinet will never look to find that 
orange colored rusty rock in the field. That's why I organized both 
specimens for this purpose. More detailed explanation will be prepared in 
polish language from my educational page www.meteoryty.pl


Maybe these movies will help to reduce the number of granite stones reported 
as meteorites.


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1570 
gramhttps://youtu.be/PoNZd22LBLY


METEORITES360° - PUŁTUSK Chondrite H5 - 1514 
gramhttps://youtu.be/mREkHgESkLQ


Please share, comment and wait for more


Special Thanks to Dave Gheesling and Łukas Smuła. You rock !

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[meteorite-list] Morasko 175kg - 2nd largest

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello list
I have very special specimen to offer.
Its the 2nd largest Morasko iron meteorite IAB. Main mass 260kg is located 
in Poznan University and its not available. Specimen 175kg its the largest 
private owned Morasko right now.


https://youtu.be/XrqoZnaputQ

Im looking for serious collector or museum. Specime is legaly owned with 
export permission.


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[meteorite-list] AD Polandmet collection for SALE

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

POLANDMET COLLECTION FOR SALE.
94 specimens from the very first NWA 2427. Many long time ago sold out 
beauties, selected by their unique features like inclusions, crust, CAIs, 
chondrules.


http://www.polandmet.com/_collection.htm



Please take a look. Last chance to buy many old numbers


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Re: [meteorite-list] Old collection Pultusk wanted

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

I will connect to that question too.
But Im looking bad or ugly or bad and ugly but fresh Pultusk. Need slices 
for medal :)


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Hello Collectors,
some time ago I asked list members about Pultusk meteorite form Krantz 
provenance.
But I am looking for all Pultusk form old collections (museums or old 
dealers/collectors).

If You have such specimen for sale write to my email illae...@gmail.com


All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
www.collectingmeteorites.com
PTM, IMCA, MetSoc
Managing Editor
meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl





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Re: [meteorite-list] iron meteorite natural color

[Marcin Cimała - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello,
I have a question.
As we know an iron meteorite, such like Campo del Cielo for example, have 
a black surface.
I have here a deeply rusted Campo, I'm planning to remove rust with a sand 
blasting process.
But with this I will obtain a greysh surface, like naked iron, the same 
color of a slice.
Not really a natural color for the exterior of an iron meteorite and also 
not aestetically pretty, looks too artificial for me.

There is something to do for restore the original black color?
Or it's better to remove the rust with a traditional steel brush, maybe 
with a drill ???


Tips for mechanical or chemical process are welkomme!!!
I can try with the classical NaOh bath, I have also Phosphoric, Citric and 
Oxalic acid :)


Thanks
xx
Francesco


Hah good question Francesco. But what is natural color of meteorite at all ? 
Desert sandblasted NWA is not a real looking meteorite? Should I paint them 
black to be looking like a real meteorites ? Poor Dhofars
This is what Im fighting long time. Strange stereotype that meteorite MUST 
BE BLACK outside, WHY ?


When You like Your girlfrend ? When he smile to You with his pretty face or 
when she put ton of Max Factor chemicals on it??


I have always strange taste, different than most of collectors. For me, if 
specimen have crust must be black or black with rusty patina. If meteorite 
have no more crust like Campo, why to "paint" it to black to looks like 
Sikhote ? Then You will see paint, not Your meteorite. I only can imagine 
what strange things they do to clean Campo and look it like that. LOL


OK now a few tips.
As I understand Your Campo is a complete specimen ? To remove deep rust You 
must use electrochemical cleaning + brush + small hammer. Then You will get 
mostly cleaned meteorite with BLACK remains of rust that will make Your 
meteorite looks REAL.Then heat it and put alot of oil to make it looks fresh 
and oriented :)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Just small corrections.
0.1-0.2gram is needed. No more.


Dear meteorite friends.
Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL 
chondrites for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal 
material. No crust, no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose 
pieces or You can just break something from Your specimen and send me You 
can be mentioned in publications. :)

Maybe You can help.

==[My Adress]==
Marcin Cimala
Targoniny 30
43-445 Dziegielow
POLAND
=

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[meteorite-list] Chondrites W0 samples WANTED for research

[Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear meteorite friends.
Our scientists in Poland looking for TINY samples of W0 L, H, LL chondrites 
for their researchs. How tiny ? Just 0.05gram internal material. No crust, 
no troilite just stone matrix. If You have any lose pieces or You can just 
break something from Your specimen and send me You can be mentioned in 
publications. :)

Maybe You can help.

==[My Adress]==
Marcin Cimala
Targoniny 30
43-445 Dziegielow
POLAND
=

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[meteorite-list] METEORITES360 presents NWA 7158

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Hello group.

Please take a look at new video from well known Polandmet Studio. This time 
beautifull chondrite LL3 with three different clasts and black inclusion. 
All this in new quality, true UltraHD 4K


And I just started...

https://youtu.be/si_mgspa0wI


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[meteorite-list] Vacuum stress

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Hello
I thinked about something interesting.
Anyone make research on the effects of the vacuum on the condition of the 
specimen ?
Becouse we have rock in space (vacuum), then in only seconds it reach dense 
atmosphere with high air presure. Most meteorites dont have gas vesicles 
inside so maybe this will not make a big difference to the rock material (or 
iron). But what about meteorites like D'Orbigny or Baszkówka where material 
is highly porous ? Maybe this dramatic change of presure from near 0 to 
atmospheric level can do any cracks or help in fragmentation ?




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[meteorite-list] Polandmet is 15 years old :)

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Friends
Time speed up every day and I nearly missed my own anniversary. Looks like 
15 years ago I decided to open my business and become a dealer, not only 
collector. I cant imagine have a better work and more satisfactory.

Work with pieces from space, shows, expeditions, adventures. This is it.

I hope I can do this for my whole life.

If anyone want to catch something from my 15 years old website, I provide 
30% discount on all meteorites + Free shipping

YEAH !
www.PolandMET.com

I wish You good day.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

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This list is like big volcano full of shit! Peoples whats wrong with you ?
Why I dont see conversations like this on Facebook ?

So when we all agree that this is CAMPO maybe its time to stop?

My God.

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Just heard back from CML about this, and they are analyzing it.  Time to 
back off from John Pierce and let he and the lab sort it out.  It's none 
of our business right now.






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On 7/2/16 at 12:40 PM, John Pierce via Meteorite-list wrote:


OK, photos.
I'm not the most computer literate person.
I had go create a Photobucket album, and I hope this link works:

http://s744.photobucket.com/user/Lumin9/library/Halo

Please, no need to flame me for cleaning the rock.
I read and considered a lot before proceeding.
Simply my preference with no concern regarding market value.

Found by me personally on our 32-acre property in Southern Oregon.

John Pierce

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Paul Gessler  wrote:

> Let’s see a picture of this Iron.
> -Paul G
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: John Pierce via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:33 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely
> nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
> subject.  My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of 
> the

> Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
> classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be 
> only

> the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.
>
>
>
> I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to 
> find

> answer to my question.
>
>
>
> I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
> meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary.
> They advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I’m interested 
> to
> know anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain 
> water
> as a coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have 
> machining

> experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
> like to be a circular blade.
>
>
>
> I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

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John
I was answered Your question becouse You asked, but for me also its 99% 
Campo. Why ?
First of all if its a new find, then WHO and WHEN just cleaned it to the 
pure iron ? Do You know that cleaning THAT WAY You just destroyed Your 
precious specimen and lovered its value? Do You have photo how it looks like 
before it was massacred ? Where did You found it ? Im just curious :)


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Full attack mode?  Really?
Which of you is Mr. Pot and which is Mr. Kettle?


On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Michael Farmer 
wrote:


The way you come out in full-on attack mode simply proves to me that your
meteorite is a scam and not just an innocent inquiry.
As Paul said, we have seen this before. I've had people steal meteorites
from another dealer and offer them to me as "new finds" minutes after I 
had

already seen them and tried to buy them. I've had people try to sell me
meteorites by email when the meteorite was sitting on my desk in front of
me.
The scams never end.
We are professionals. Seeing the photo of that Campo is as easy as seeing
a photo of the Mona Lisa. No need for further testing.



Michael Farmer

On Jul 2, 2016, at 11:33 PM, John Pierce  wrote:

What an interesting few responses.  You all certainly know a gazillion
times more about meteorites and about meteorite scams than I know.  Of
these things I know almost nothing, though I do certainly appreciate that
many parts (if not all) of the internet are rife with scams.  I'm sorry
that you have so much anger about it.

But I can't help but wonder why, if it is so obvious that I'm perpetrating
a scam, would the staff at PSU's Cascade Meteorite Lab, (who have had this
meteorite in hand), not voiced this concern?   They actually examined the
rock in person - not just by way of a low res digital photo.  Why would
they have been certain enough to have promised to move the classification
of this meteorite to the very top of their already long queue?  They may 
be

underfunded, but they sure didn't strike me as dumb.  I can't help but
presume they can ID a Campo as readily as you.  Do you think they are
ignorant?  I guess you can presume that I'm also being deceptive about my
contact with them.

I really don't know the answer to that riddle.  It is only on the basis of
their authority that I can even claim to know that this is a real
meteorite.  I will call them again on Tuesday to ask their thoughts on 
this

matter of a Campo scams.  They don't seem to mind at all for me to "waste
their time".

I've never had any connection with law enforcement, although I have no
idea what you think that might imply.  (Are law enforcement people often
untrustworthy?)   I've always been obscure, and I will always probably BE
obscure.  I'm just one of the obscure masses.  So there is no "drifting
back" into obscurity needed.  But I also sure don't need validation from
your group..

I don't think you can find any link to me by Google search my name.  But
since you apparently were curious, you can see my short and non-special
biography by going to QRZ.com  and searching the call
sign K7KEY.  I'm obscure, but I also have nothing to hide.

But my post here has not been fruitless.  I've received a good number of
very considerate direct replies from others offering useful advice and
information.

My regret now is that it appears that it would have been MUCH better to
have asked about cutting an iron meteorite in the abstract.  I was foolish
not to think of this, and I now realize that the excitement of my 
discovery

clouded my judgement.

Happy Independence Day to all in the U.S.!

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Paul Gessler  wrote:


Mr Pierce,

He is being "amazingly rude" because you think we are amazingly naive.
We are not. We have seen this CRAP before many many times and it just
doesn’t fly.
I asked to see a photo of your meteorite precisely because I was a bit
suspicious.
Upon reviewing the photos it is VERY CLEAR that it is another Campo del
Cielo.
So instead of wasting PSU;’s time I will give you the classification
right now.
What you have is :
classification Octahedrite  Group IAB  Composition 92.9% Fe, 6.7% Ni,
0.4% Co
So you see you don’t even have to worry about cutting your precious
hoax.
Simply dissolve back into obscurity where you belong.
No one here cares about your story.

PS,
   I googled your name and...you wouldn’t happen to be a former Law
enforcement officer would you?
just curious

-Paul Gessler






From: John Pierce
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:46 PM
To: Michael Farmer
Cc: Paul Gessler ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

Wow, Michael Farmer, you are amazingly rude.
Is your rudeness typical of this meteorite community, or are you just a
troll, or just an ang

Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

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Hi
If You plan to cut that 11kg specimen You propably need to use band saw. Or 
give it to someone who have experience with such big specimens


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Hello All,



This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely
nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
subject.  My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of the
Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be only
the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.



I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to find
answer to my question.



I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary. 
They

advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I’m interested to know
anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain water as a
coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have machining
experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
like to be a circular blade.



I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.



Kind regards,

John







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[meteorite-list] VIDEO - cutting CD graphite nodule on Silver Blade 7

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Hello
This is my longest movie I ever made.
If You have 30min to waste and You can understand my poor english hehe then 
here is how I cut 1.8kg CD graphite nodule on my new saw. Saw, slices even 
my T-shirt is for sale so send me email if You are interested or meet me in 
Ensisheim just in 2 days.

And ofcourse SHARE and COMMENT

https://youtu.be/oS5wJtms5D8

If its not enough, there is another one from cutting Al Haggounia 004 a new 
CK3 with unique inclusion.

Movie is in polish language but Im sure it will be also interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWB35XNqCb8

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[meteorite-list] Two CK3 are OFFICIAL

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Good news.
After years NWA 4964 and NWA 6254 are OFFICIAL and both CK3. 6254 turned 
from CK5 to CK3 and S2 to S1 so anyone who ordered them from me, please 
update Your informations.


Thanks




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[meteorite-list] Gibeon for watches

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Hi
Im looking for gibeon fragment to make dials for watches. Anyone have 
anything suitable ?


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Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of dealing with Fayssal Mezgouri

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Thanks John.
Im not sure how difficult is to recognize fake sword, but recognizing 
meteorites is rather easy (to me). In this case it was my own fault. I 
belived to what he write and didnt look on photos close enough. Specimen was 
too cheap and second it didnt look like 100% diogenite on photos. But 
becouse I bough from him earlier, and I was satisfied with my purchases I 
didnt questioned what he say. This is typical when routine kick Your ass :)


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Dear List,

I have blocked him from the Meteorites group on facebook so that he cannot 
use that as a resources for his scams.  It is a shame that the meteorite 
community continues to be an uncertain place for collectors and merchants 
to use their hard earned funds.


As a collector of antique Japanese swords as well, I will say that the 
amount of fraud I see in the sales of meteorites is considerably less than 
what I see in the sword collecting community.  Perhaps we are doing 
something right that other collecting communities are not.


Hope everyone is having a good week thus far.
Cheers,
John A. Shea
IMCA 3295






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On 4/19/16 at 6:42 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Hi list
I have same experienxes. In 2010 I bough from him 1100g surprisingly 
cheap

diogenite and received badly weathered LL6

  helle my friend
  here is the picture of meteorite i have look at the picture and let 
me

know .
  the big one is 1155 gr Diogenite like NWA1877
  kind regards


  Mezgouri Fayssal
  cell +212668693856


I lost 2200$ never get even a gram of weathered L6 as a refund. I send 
this
specimen back to Said Haddany to try to return it to Fayssal but this 
didnt

work so I pick it back and now its classified. Maybe I can get most of my
money back selling it.
There is soo many 10% trusted persons in Morocco so no need to buy
anything from "dealers" like Fayssal.

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>
>
> Dear list members, Please beware of dealing with this Moroccan dealer.
> Five years ago, he cheated me out of $6250.00. I bought what was 
> supposed
> to be a rare meteorite from him only to receive a weathered H5 
> chondrite.

> For four years I tried to no avail to get my money back even after he
> admitted to sending me a weathered H5 instead of the stone I was 
> supposed
> to receive. I even had Aziz Habibi intervene for me to no avail. He 
> made
> promise after promise after promise to return my money. I was even 
> willing
> to take an equal amount of common chondrites instead of the money. If 
> you
> send money to this Fayssal Mezgouri, you may find yourself out of a lot 
> of

> cash. Jack Schrader
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO





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Re: [meteorite-list] Beware of dealing with Fayssal Mezgouri

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi list
I have same experienxes. In 2010 I bough from him 1100g surprisingly cheap 
diogenite and received badly weathered LL6


 helle my friend
 here is the picture of meteorite i have look at the picture and let me 
know .

 the big one is 1155 gr Diogenite like NWA1877
 kind regards


 Mezgouri Fayssal
 cell +212668693856


I lost 2200$ never get even a gram of weathered L6 as a refund. I send this 
specimen back to Said Haddany to try to return it to Fayssal but this didnt 
work so I pick it back and now its classified. Maybe I can get most of my 
money back selling it.
There is soo many 10% trusted persons in Morocco so no need to buy 
anything from "dealers" like Fayssal.


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Dear list members, Please beware of dealing with this Moroccan dealer. 
Five years ago, he cheated me out of $6250.00. I bought what was supposed 
to be a rare meteorite from him only to receive a weathered H5 chondrite. 
For four years I tried to no avail to get my money back even after he 
admitted to sending me a weathered H5 instead of the stone I was supposed 
to receive. I even had Aziz Habibi intervene for me to no avail. He made 
promise after promise after promise to return my money. I was even willing 
to take an equal amount of common chondrites instead of the money. If you 
send money to this Fayssal Mezgouri, you may find yourself out of a lot of 
cash. Jack Schrader



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Re: [meteorite-list] MOVIE - Cutting newly aquired CK3 on Silver Blade 7

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0.3-0.4mm blades from ebay
Works great and they are low cost

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Fabulous saw - all it needs is eye protection :)

What saw blade do you use?

Paul Swartz
IMCA 5204
MPOD Web Master
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[meteorite-list] MOVIE - Cutting newly aquired CK3 on Silver Blade 7

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Hello
On Youtube You can watch my new movie about recently aquired CK3 or CK4. I 
filmed whole process from the beginning to the end. It show how my new 
version of Silver Blade works.


Its 20min, polish language only, sorry.

https://youtu.be/NumWnfEeVzQ

Please comment. Move movies soon.

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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

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Hi
This not work.
 Items €7,52
 Shipping €12,99
 Tax €4,72
 Total €25,23



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Hi Sergey, Marcin, Zsolt, all,

Just had a thought regards your high shipping prices quoted. Did you
change the currency to your local currency before ordering? I noticed
that in your screenshot you posted Sergey that it was in US dollars.
On the Blurb website you can change the currency and I guess that is
how the shipping is worked out in combination with your address. Try
it and see if it makes a difference?

Cheers

Martin

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA #3387
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On 12 Feb 2016 21:27, "andries goedhart via Meteorite-list"
 wrote:


Hi All,

I had to pay $25.39 incl. shipping and taxes so i find the $37 Sergey has 
to pay really absurd. I am pretty sure my copy came from the Czech 
Republic as well which is closer to Sergey's home than mine.
It is sad that Michael's great magazine might not reach it's full sale 
potential in Europe due to the very high shipping rates.
I gladly payed the $25 but i can understand some people can or will not 
pay almost two times the cost of the magazine for shipping.


I would like to thank Michael and his contributors for the awesome 
magazine they created . I am looking forward to the next issue. I can not 
imagine it being better than this one but i am sure it will be.


Andries Goedhart
IMCA #3525


Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat


 Oorspronkelijk bericht 
Van: Martin Goff via Meteorite-list 
Datum: 12-02-2016 19:28 (GMT+01:00)
Aan: Graham Ensor 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

Hi all,

The problem as I see it is that Blurb are not just a distributor but
the printer too so it's not just a question of switching companies.
Blurb use different printing and distribution bases according to the
buyers location so not all copies are sent from the US. Copies Sent to
the UK seem to have been sent from the Czech Republic so not sure why
the shipping is so high for you Sergey? The shipping is certainly high
but that is out of Michael's control. All I can say is that the
magazine itself is more than worth the cost given the quality of the
product but it is a shame the shipping cost is putting some people
off.

I am more than happy to get multiple copies ordered and then bring to
Ensisheim for anyone who wants to wait rather than pay shipping. Just
let me know :-)

Just want to give a shout out to Michael Johnson who has put his heart
and soul and many many hours into this project and the end result is
truly excellent. I for one will do everything I can to help and
support him so that this grows and becomes a great resource to the
entire meteorite community. I am sure that Michael would welcome any
help from others too, be that submitting articles and photos, offers
of helping to distribute copies of the magazine or just general
support and encouragement. The magazine is for us all and we need to
support it any way we can. Well done Michael, you've done a great job!
:-)

Cheers

Martin

Martin Goff
www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA #3387

On 12 Feb 2016 16:17, "Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list"
 wrote:
>
> Great Marcin...that will help the whole project.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:31 PM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:

>>
>> Hey
>> I was talking with Michael and we are working on a better solution. Im 
>> ready to be European distributor for next issue. Polish post prices 
>> are much lower than sending each magazine from USA to Europe. I hope 
>> it will work and for same money we could get two issues than one.

>>
>>
>> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com
>> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Marcin,
>>> I get what you're saying. The shipping is expensive. I agree.
>>>
>>> But:
>>> It's a quarterly magazine. Comes out every 3 months. Spending 33.80$ 
>>> once every 3 months averages to about 11.27$ each month. Okay so not 
>>> EXACTLY 10$

>>>
>>> I spent 14$ last night to go to a movie for just two hours of 
>>> entertainment. It may not be worth it to someone who never read the 
>>> Deadpool comics but it was worth it to me. :-)

>>>
>>> It costs me 3.50$ a day to have the latte I like to drink most 
>>> mornings. If I do that six times a week that's 21$ a week, and 84$ a 
>>> m

Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hey
I was talking with Michael and we are working on a better solution. Im ready 
to be European distributor for next issue. Polish post prices are much lower 
than sending each magazine from USA to Europe. I hope it will work and for 
same money we could get two issues than one.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





Marcin,
I get what you're saying.  The shipping is expensive.  I agree.

But:
It's a quarterly magazine. Comes out every 3 months.  Spending 33.80$ once 
every 3 months averages to about 11.27$ each month.  Okay so not EXACTLY 
10$


I spent 14$ last night to go to a movie for just two hours of 
entertainment.  It may not be worth it to someone who never read the 
Deadpool comics but it was worth it to me. :-)


It costs me 3.50$ a day to have the latte I like to drink most mornings. 
If I do that six times a week that's 21$ a week, and 84$ a month.  It may 
not be worth it to someone who doesn't like coffee, but it's worth it to 
me.


My point is, 33.80$ is really not alot of money to pay once every three 
months for a high quality magazine if you really do enjoy the content.


Hope you are doing good my friend.
Cheers,
John


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On 2/12/16 at 5:58 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:


Bigjohn are You kidding me? Where You have 10$ ?
Check how much it cost myself to deliver it to Poland, for one...
  Items US $9.99
  Shipping US $17.49
  Tax US $6.32
  Total US $33.80

I'm very interested to own every copy of this new excellent magazine, but
34$ per issue ?  No way. Im verry unhappy. Maybe Michael can change
distribution to something else. I dont know.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






> This is a quarterly magazine.  Published every three months and costing
> 30$ for international readers means you spend roughly ten bucks a month 
> to

> read it.  Not sure that's worth griping over personally.  Yes, it's
> basically double what the US readers are spending, but it's worth it 
> for a

> good publication.  I say try it once and see if you like what you read.
> Decide from there if it's worth your 10$ a month.
> Cheers.
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 2/11/16 at 4:37 PM, cbo via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> I concour with Sergey. Very expensive the shipping fee to Europe:(
>>
>> 9.99USD Magazine with over 20USD shipping fee? Why?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regrads!
>>
>> Zsolt
>>
>> Hungary
>>
>> IMCA#6251
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Meteorite-list 
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]

>> On Behalf Of Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:08 AM
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016 issue 
>> of

>> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to
>> submit an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the
>> following address:
>>
>> spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Johnson
>>
>> Editor-in-Chief
>>
>> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone6
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Sent from My iPhone

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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Bigjohn are You kidding me? Where You have 10$ ?
Check how much it cost myself to deliver it to Poland, for one...
 Items US $9.99
 Shipping US $17.49
 Tax US $6.32
 Total US $33.80

I'm very interested to own every copy of this new excellent magazine, but 
34$ per issue ?  No way. Im verry unhappy. Maybe Michael can change 
distribution to something else. I dont know.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]






This is a quarterly magazine.  Published every three months and costing 
30$ for international readers means you spend roughly ten bucks a month to 
read it.  Not sure that's worth griping over personally.  Yes, it's 
basically double what the US readers are spending, but it's worth it for a 
good publication.  I say try it once and see if you like what you read. 
Decide from there if it's worth your 10$ a month.

Cheers.


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On 2/11/16 at 4:37 PM, cbo via Meteorite-list wrote:


I concour with Sergey. Very expensive the shipping fee to Europe:(

9.99USD Magazine with over 20USD shipping fee? Why?



Regrads!

Zsolt

Hungary

IMCA#6251



From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:08 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE



Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016 issue of 
SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to 
submit an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the 
following address:


spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com


http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks



Regards,

Michael Johnson

Editor-in-Chief

SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

Sent from my iPhone6



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[meteorite-list] World largest urelite

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
Some of us have winter right now. Rainy weather, cold hands and sleepy eyes.
Here is something to wake You up better than double espresso.

I finished my first movie for new project Meteoryty.pl. Simple educational 
website about meteorites in polish language. No more text, no more photos, 
only videos explaining what meteorites are. Next one will be about big 
Pultusk specimen found recently. Work in progress.


To start with something big I decided to show my incredible find from last 
Oman desert trip. This is from THAT last trip if You know what I mean. Sorry 
its in polish language only.


Enjoy and comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnTVT84d4qs

Whoever working still with omanis, please take care of it and classify. 
Otherwise authorities will change it into street paving. They alredy tryed 
hard.


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http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]





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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars AfterBlack Stones From Space Rain Down

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello
Friends everyone buy what he want and what he can pay. Bingol is great fresh 
meteorite with excellent crust. For sure worth to buy. But as history show, 
in a few months there will be another super cool new fall, maybe diogenite 
and what will happend with Bingol ? It will be forgotten. Like first Chellys 
sold for hundreds per gram it turned to 5/g now. Same with Tissint and may 
other. Mike make great sales becouse everyone is crazy on Bingol now. When 
something new will fall, marker crazynes will go to the new material.


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And 
I'm sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material 
than the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry 
about it. Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile 
behavior of selling Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know 
if he cancelled that deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy 
NWA chondrites, they're nice and cheap.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good 
old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)


Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 
150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half 
that price.


G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)

John




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On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:

I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am 
flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly 
what an extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war 
zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not 
alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs 
tonight on eBay:)
Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the 
next box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, 
down to the smallest order.


Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:

Michael,

Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe 
you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the 
right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to 
yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top 
grossing dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have 
a great reputation until you say things like this. There is room for 
all kinds of collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally 
felt John's comments engendered some great discussions and provided 
unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own 
response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the need to 
insult him.


Oh well, to each his own.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Who is this? A new dealer?
Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that 
can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need 
to go find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the 
professionals?
I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is 
not the place it sells.

Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.


Michael Farmer

On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


Hi John,

I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.

However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
value dramatically.

Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls 
now days.





On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Ruben,
For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to 
really enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that 
looks phenomenal in your collection.


Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for 
the buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 
50-75% of what you pay now.


Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
My opinion atleast.
Cheers,
John



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On 11/15/15 at 5:32

[meteorite-list] MEGA AD - ELEVEN types 3, CV3, L7, MESO, Eucrite, CK4

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear Meteorite-list members
After many days of hard work I finished massive page update.
At www.polandmet.com 
You can find meteorites listed below



. NWA 7167 [CK4] 
. NWA 7157 [L7] 
. NWA 7160 [LL3.7] 
. NWA 7161 [L3] 
. NWA 7162 [L3.2] 
. NWA 7163 [LL3] 
. NWA 7165 [L3.3] 
. NWA 7170 [L3] 
. NWA 8303 [L3.6] 
. NWA 8305 [LL3.5] 
. NWA 8323 [CV3]
. NWA 8647 [EUC] 
. NWA 8741 [MESO] 
. NWA 10295 [L3.5] 
. NWA 10296 [L3.15] 
. NWA 10298 [L3.2] 



NWA 10297 L3 will be available soon 



Some of them with rare types, some other beautifull with unique matrix.
Check them out.
I wish You all wonderfull weekend.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hello Marcin,

Very unusual to see. With no knowledge on this subject, i'll try at a 
Possible

"solution" (no pun intended)...

If, if, as you say, all slices were prepared the same and no other coating 
was
left on on the piece(s) that wouldn't take the etch---is it Possible that 
they may
have somehow become electomagnetically charged (preventing the chemical 
bond)
and the piece you used to scratch the object piece broke/relieved this 
charge

in order for the solution to begin its work??

Mirko?

All best, John



Yes this can be one reasonable explanation. But this is like You put finger 
into the fire  and nothing happend :)

Looks like Force is with me and my slices!

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- Original Message ----- 
From: "PolandMET via Meteorite-list" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:57 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites


Dear meteorite friends.
Tooday I etched some Maslyanino slices and beetween 10 of them, two slices
do not want start etching. I was able to capture this very strange 
phenomen

with my macro lens. I cant explain this. Maybe someone can ?

Let me explain whats going on here.
Normaly, when slice is placed in etching solution, etching starts
immediately in the same second. But rarely, I can keep slice even 5 or 10
minutes without any signs of etching. On this video, there is one of 10
slices of Maslyanino that comes from same slice divided to smaller
specimens, so material was prepared 100% the same. Only two of this 10
slices can't be etched in normal way. They need a starter. This mean I 
need

to scratch them with other slice to start etching. This is visible at 1:40
when I finally use correct slice to start etch reaction. You can see then
how solution move from the place of scratch in all direction and etching
starts immediatelly.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9s56NuTVQ&feature=youtu.be

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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[meteorite-list] Unusual phenomen during etching iron meteorites

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Dear meteorite friends.
Tooday I etched some Maslyanino slices and beetween 10 of them, two slices 
do not want start etching. I was able to capture this very strange phenomen 
with my macro lens. I cant explain this. Maybe someone can ?


Let me explain whats going on here.
Normaly, when slice is placed in etching solution, etching starts 
immediately in the same second. But rarely, I can keep slice even 5 or 10 
minutes without any signs of etching. On this video, there is one of 10 
slices of Maslyanino that comes from same slice divided to smaller 
specimens, so material was prepared 100% the same. Only two of this 10 
slices can't be etched in normal way. They need a starter. This mean I need 
to scratch them with other slice to start etching. This is visible at 1:40 
when I finally use correct slice to start etch reaction. You can see then 
how solution move from the place of scratch in all direction and etching 
starts immediatelly.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd9s56NuTVQ&feature=youtu.be

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]




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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

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I rather expected 20kg lunar or mars :P

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Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 10001

Contributed by: Hanno Strufe

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=02/18/2015
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Re: [meteorite-list] M_009.

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Robert, if You have cat, give it to him :)
I have the same "eucrite" so we can do one classification if You like.
I found them in 2004 in morocco personaly so I have GPS data and we can 
assign a name.

http://www.polandmet.com/ebay/P1290901.JPG


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[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]







Good afternoon All,
Requesting your help in getting additional information about a specimen 
which has a label with this:  " M 009. " ??

(Please see links to images of this label.)

http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_a.jpg

http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_b.jpg
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_c.jpg
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/misplaced/m_009_d.jpg

The specimen is 49.14g and appears to be a weathered desert rock with 
lichens growing on it,
and if it actually is a meteorite, it looks like it could be an 
unbrecciated eucrite,

The label doesn't appear to be recently made and looks legit.

Comments please,
Bob V.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 43 New Approvals and 1 Lunar (The Gobi Desert Opens Up)

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Agreed.  I noticed that.  I just reported what I saw in the Bulletin
was far as assigning names goes.  NonCom said 43 meteorites, but it
readily apparent it is the same meteorite.  This is similar to what we
see with the various Antarctic programs - each tiny fragment gets it's
own catalog number.  I wonder how many different Antarctic meteorites
there actually are, once pairings are ruled out of the overall count?
Does anyone know?


Hi
Mike, but antarctic material is found NOT in the place of fall (mostly) They 
was moved by ice so any visual pairing or becouse they was found in the same 
place will not work.


But I can understand them. They found one meteorite so that play with every 
tiny chondrule. They have fun :)


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If one looks around a map of the world, there are known deserts (hot
and cold) of plentiful recoveries - Atacama, Sahara, Mojave, Kalahari,
and SW USA dry lake beds.  All are known and well-hunted.  Of the
remaining deserts (like the Gobi), hunting has been limited.  Given
that foreigners had very limited access to the Gobi and Chinese law
forbids unapproved exportation, it seems like the Gobi would be a
prime candidate for recoveries.

There will never be another "gold rush" of meteorites on the scale
that the Sahara provided - it was a unique set of circumstances
involving geography, legalities, and timing.  The Gobi might be packed
with unrecovered meteorites - the tip of the iceberg is just now being
exposed...or not.

Just like Antarctica and NWA - the pairing system has yet to be
refined to account for large numbers of individual fragments that are
paired.

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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On 11/23/14, Anne Black  wrote:

No,
Apologies to all members of the Nom.Comm who might be reading the Met
List, but no, they did not find 41 meteorites in the Gobi, they found
41 Fragments of ONE meteorite.
Just read the descriptions, and they are all identical:  found within
48 hours, in an area of less than 4 square kilometers, all of them L5,
S=5 and W=2, almost identical composition. No, 41 fragments of 1
meteorite.

Sorry, this is a blatant example of a pairing system that is not
working.
All buying of ... You know the rest.


Anne M. Black
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - 43 New Approvals and 1
Lunar (The Gobi Desert Opens Up)


Hi Bulletin Watchers,

Well, some of us had wondered in the past : Is there another untapped
concentration of meteorites waiting to be found outside of NWA and
Antarctica.  Some (including myself) postulated that the Gobi desert
was a possibility.  In recent times, we are seeing more meteorites
coming out of the Gobi.  While these may never surface on the private
market (or at least to the degree that NWA has), it appears the Gobi
meteorites are there and are being recovered in increasing numbers.

There are 43 new approvals - most are OC's from China and the Gobi.
There is also an iron from Brazil and 4 new meteorites from the NWA
DCA, including a lunar.

Link :
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=2&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=0

Best regards and Happy Huntings,

MikeG

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Re: [meteorite-list] MASSSIVE Russian Event Asteroid? 14NOV2014

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Hi
We all like to have Chellyabinsk x10 ofcourse but my first feeling was 
nuclear explosion. Also there seems to be fog or dense clouds so the whole 
flash will be false.

But yes, this could be just big explosion in factory.

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I think some kind of explosion, aircraft or chemical plant. Meteor would be 
faster and move. This was something else I think.



Michael Farmer

On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list 
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List,
What ever it was you will not want to miss these videos!
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/russia-super-bolide-asteroid-strike.html

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay seller guarantees this.....

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Hi
Its somehow funny but, really, we will discuss every idiotic rock fraud from 
ebay here ?

Its boring...

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.So it MUST be a Meteorite!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-METEORITE-100-GUARANTEED-AUTHENTIC-/251684361016?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a998e9338

The quoted description below.

"YOU ARE BIDDING ON THIS NEAT METEORITE.  WE PURCHASED IT FROM A
FRIEND WHO'S FATHER REMEMBERS A METEOR SHOWER AND FIRE WHEN HE WAS A
SMALL BOY IN THE 1930'S/1940'S, THEN DIGGING THIS UP LATER IN THE
EARLY 1970'S AT HIS SAME RESIDENCE IN GREEN LANE, PA.  AT THAT TIME
THEY TOOK IT TO A LOCAL UNIVERSITY AND HAD IT AUTHENTICATED, THE
UNIVERSITY ASKED FOR IT TO BE DONATED BUT THEY DECLINED.  THE
PAPERWORK HAS SINCE BEEN LOST AND HE HAS PASSED ON.  WE HAD SOMEONE
CHECK IT AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE HIGHLY DENSE, A LITTLE OVER 2 LBS, FOR
THE SIZE AND THAT IT WAS MAGNETIC.  MEASURES APPROX. 3 1/2" X 3 3/4" X
3 1/4".  WE GUARANTEE THIS TO BE AUTHENTIC.  IT'S A NEAT PIECE OF
HISTORY, SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS OLD AND SOMETHING FROM OUTER SPACE,
WHICH FEW OF US WILL EVERY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN."







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Re: [meteorite-list] Aziz habibi and his bad behavior

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Hi
Thats all is very sad my friends.
Small business mean small money and friends everywhere.
Big business means big money and enemy everywhere.
Then I dont want to be rich.
Can we comeback to meteorites ?

For this very interesting fights, insults, regrets and accusations best will 
be private group on facebook


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Hi ,
Aziz. your last email contains a lot of lie as always and here is my 
reply:

Lets start by this 36kg Taza that you said that is stolen and i buy it
just  at 3cent , do you know that i bought it from Mohamed Sbaai ?and
i give him  check at 175000Dhs for payement wish is 21k $? So you
complaint Sbaai that he is stole this meteorite??? even he is your
freind ?what a mess
By the way you know that i sold you  an 5kg Taza with nice sheap at
just 0.75$ not at 1$to 1.5 $ as you said and you still owe me  3000dhs
that you dont want to give it to me even you are rich as you did with
a lot of poor nomads here and every one know you right now ,if you did
not pay cash you will not take material even with check ..you know
what people i mean if you want i can be more clear
If you want to give advices to others  please start by yourself ,there
is a big  differences betwen your words and your behaviors
Now what about greddy you said .you know many times you closed deals
with your clients and when you have offer more you sold ,even deal
closed with one else first and just for add an infos to you ,if you
remind that i was sold 2125g shergotite and after close deal i had
offer more than the first one  at 20$ but i did not accepte because am
honest and i can not betray anyone and am not greedy
Aziz
Try to clean your reputation here first with poor nomads  you told
them that Tissint is just a carbonaceous and BB is just a CK ,what
about the poor nomad who sell his 1kg find of tissint at 3$ and when
he saw his freinds sold their pieces at 150$ and 200$ he become now
crazy ,just do somthing good in your life and go help his children
More things in other emails.

Man!! A blind can not judge colours

2014-10-05 9:01 GMT+02:00 rachid chaoui :

Hi ,
Aziz. your last email contains a lot of lie as always and here is my 
reply:
Lets start by this 36kg Taza that you said that is stolen and i buy it 
just
at 3cent , do you know that i bought it from Mohamed Sbaai ?and i give 
him
check at 175000Dhs for payement wish is 21k $? So you complaint Sbaai 
that

he is stole this meteorite??? even he is your freind ?what a mess
By the way you know that i sold you  an 5kg Taza with nice sheap at just
0.75$ not at 1$to 1.5 $ as you said and you still owe me  3000dhs that 
you
dont want to give it to me even you are rich as you did with a lot of 
poor

nomads here and every one know you right now ,if you did not pay cash you
will not take material even with check ..you know what people i mean if 
you

want i can be more clear
If you want to give advices to others  please start by yourself ,there is 
a

big  differences betwen your words and your behaviors
Now what about greddy you said .you know many times you closed deals with
your clients and when you have offer more you sold ,even deal closed with
one else first and just for add an infos to you ,if you remind that i was
sold 2125g shergotite and after close deal i had offer more than the 
first

one  at 20$ but i did not accepte because am honest and i can not betray
anyone and am not greedy
Aziz
Try to clean your reputation here first with poor nomads  you told them 
that

Tissint is just a carbonaceous and BB is just a CK ,what about the poor
nomad who sell his 1kg find of tissint at 3$ and when he saw his freinds
sold their pieces at 150$ and 200$ he become now crazy ,just do somthing
good in your life and go help his children
More things in other emails.

Man!! A blind can not judge colours







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Wersja: 2014.0.4765 / Baza danych wirusow: 4037/8330 - Data wydania: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : New Type Classification (E-Melt)

[PolandMET via Meteorite-list]

Hi
Its just Enstatite Impact Melt Breccia ?

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Hi Bulletin Watchers,

437 meteorites from previous NIPR (Japan) expeditions to Antarctic
have been approved for the Met Bulletin today. Buried in the hundreds
of small OC's is an apparent new classification of E-Melt. This is the
first and only meteorite classified as "E-Melt". Frustrated
Type-Collectors, please meet Asuka 12057.

Link : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=60054

Best regards and happy huntings,

MikeG



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