Re: [meteorite-list] Attention....

[Rosemary Hackney]

Well.. I read it.. then found the delete button.  Too bad Proud Tom didn't
get lost and stay lost. Too bad Proud Tom does not know the significance of
a Black Helicopter or anything else.

LOL  ( laugh out Loud)  Rosie
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> OK, Boys & Girls,
> Just when we thought ALL was lost, Proud Tom has come to the
rescue!
>His new web page is up and offers consolation for the downhearted,
> the discouraged and those unable to find their "delete" buttons!
> See Here:
>
> http://www.x-mail.net/proudtom4/index.html
>
> (WARNING: Those humorously challenged may wish to avoid exposure to
> this site. Direct contact may cause smiling, tittering or even outright
> laughter.)
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Mark's cartoon

[Rosemary Hackney]

Dear List...

I apologize to anyone I may have distressed by my posts. I stand by my
opinions..but I did not mean to stress everyone by sustaining a useless
battle.

I doubt I will post again for awhile

Rosie


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> Would it have been much to make a public apology?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Message from Mark Bostic

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmmm.. Too early for April Fool's Day.

So.. I see the Idiots have won.  Now Michael Farmer and Mark Bostick are
both gone. I hope you are proud of your whining. I guess it brought about
whatever change  that you  wanted accomplished. When all else fails.. play
the Race card.. It is a sure winner...

So now.. we are deprived of Mike's expertise and Mark's ability to share
information  Because of petty bickering and jealousy.

Don't feel like it was a major accomplishment. I think Mark subscribes to my
philosophy"It is more productive to spend fleeting time on things that
are enjoyable than to argue with a sign post that has already made up its
closed mind". After all.. What have you accomplished by besting a FOOL?

Rosie


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery Lights Observed Over England

[Rosemary Hackney]

Title: Nachricht



I saw a Black Helicopter today. No sound. No darkness.. No leader. No 
companions.
 
Rosie

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  From: 
  Bernhard 
  "Rendelius" Rems 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 2:23 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mystery 
  Lights Observed Over England
  
  Well, I can only talk about my personal 
  experience.. I have seen several 
  extremely (!) bright meteorites - amongst them one that was 
  reddish/blueish/whiteish, one that was pale and exploded into may sparks, one 
  that was as green as bruning copper. I have observed weather balloons, I have 
  seen Mir with a tail of objects following, I have seen head on meteorites, I 
  have seen meteor showers,If this person 
  has been an amateur astronomer for a long time, he won't be unable to identify 
  landing lights of an aeroplane, 

Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE

[Rosemary Hackney]

Al.. Aren't we a  part of the "SCIENTIFIC" community? There are a lot of
scientists in this group.

Rosie
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> Hi Rob and all,
>
> Rob Wesel wrote:
>
> This is where we all need to get nervous that the horrible scientists will
to put a
> ban private collectionand can you blame them in a case like this?
>
> I can't speak for the rest of the world but in the USA scientists get
their money from
> public tax dollars. No one has a right to ban meteorite collecting nor
should
> collectors keep from science important specimens that might yield new
information. We
> SHOULD compliment each other and work together. I am very much bothered
that anyone
> would think that the scientific community has any right to even try to ban
collecting.
>
> Until the Sahara finds most of the material was controlled, owned by the
scientific
> community. Only about 5% at most was in the hands of private individuals.
In a free
> society you should be able to collect. In an un-free society you can not
or wouldn't
> be permitted.
>
> It is because there are more people out there trying to find meteorites,
preserve them
> that science has so many new stones to research. Not to mention that we
provide tax
> dollars for them to do so and I hope they are grateful to be our public
servants. All
> my best!
>
> --AL Mitterling
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Rites & Wrong Cartoon (2), and Mike Farmer's Park Forest

[Rosemary Hackney]

OHH.. W !!!
 
"I would not matter where the 
cartoon were to be set, LA or Park Forest... having African-Americans depicted 
in such a manner is racist.  ( Janet Liberal)
 
Considering the racism Mark has had to endure throughout 
his life.. I am sure he did not intentionally set out to offend anyone in a 
racist manner.  However, I am sure perps of such crimes are NOT green. In a 
black and white format..what are your options???  DUH
 
Isn't it amazing that the darkened person is automatically 
considered African- American.  ( Negro )Amazing.  I know a " 
white guy" from Zimbabwe that is refused the designation of Afro-AMERICAN. Other 
nationalities are dark... Arabs and Palestinians and Jewish people are also 
dark.
 
I think the whole point was to show the sublime and the 
ridiculous lengths a meteorite addict will go to in his attempt to retrieve the 
heavenly booty. An attempt was made for it to look ludicrously ridiculous to 
make the point.
 
What is the point ?
 
Mark has his right to make a cartoon. You have the right 
to be offended or not offended.  Is whining " racism" supposed to 
accomplish anything? If so .. what?
Beats me. I am sure there is an ulterior motive other than 
to coerce individuals who disagree with you, to kiss your rump to soothe 
imagined wrongs.
 
In my estimation.. if the mind is opened too wide.. the 
brains  will fall out.
 
Rosie
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE

[Rosemary Hackney]

A year or so ago, I found a strange rock near Percy Priest Lake. I described
it in Mark's chatroom. That it looked kind of like Limestone but had a burnt
smell to it. And what looked like fusion crust and  funny things like
chondrites. Anyway.. it just looked odd to me.  Anyway .. for those of you
who asked to describe it.. It looks similar to Dean's picture # 6.
It is still at school where my friend is to scan it under the SEM. But best
to my memory..Pic # 6 look similar to what I recall.

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] SALE: REALLY COOL METEORITE


> I dont know what this is, havent sent it for
> classification, and this poor lost meteorite dont even
> have a name to call its own. The nomad that I bought
> it from said that it was Lunar (He also told me that
> the H5s, L6s and a bunch other stuff that I bought
> from him was lunar also - but we wont talk about that
> right now).
> But I figure - hey, what the heck, I will ask $20 a
> gram for it anyway. I hope that everybody buys it all
> because then I wont have to go through the trouble and
> effort to try and get it named and classified (I hate
> having stuff for more than 3 weeks).
> My prices are probably lower than most other dealers
> would charge but I can offer a 25% discount on my
> listed prices to list members. Paypal preferred form
> of payment (because the Moroccans are hounding me for
> payment on this rock).
> Cheers
> DEAN
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/900salepage.html
> PS:
> This is cool. Look just to see the pictures even if
> you are not interested in buying any. WARNING: If you
> do this you might really be tempted to lighten your
> pocket book.
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] John's PF comic comments and mine, 1

[Rosemary Hackney]

Heel Nakla ..hehe.
My sis's all time fav movie is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory. She
rents it every Christmas. Hmm I think she broke down and bought a copy. I
kind of favor "everlasting gobstoppers" myself.

Time for another Rosie moment. I think I have a fragment of a thought coming
on...
Political correctness...hmm.. some folks think it is a national law..a
constitutional amendment. a crime of heinous proportions punishable by
hanging and drawn and quartered if challenged or trespassed.

However...there is NO LAW that protects tender sensibilities of the easily
offended. There is NO constitutional law that guarantees anyone freedom of
being offended. Political correctness was invented I think, for those who
are too mealy mouthed to take a stand or opinion for fear they may lose a
vote. Personally I am not running for office.. Neither is Mark. And if by
exercising first amendment rights someone is unfortunately offended ( well
someone is going to be offended. Some people go out of their way to be
offended...), then I would say get a thicker hide or remove yourself from
the offending party/material. I do not think Mark shoved it under anyone's
nose.

Mark works hard to develop his site. It is a labor of love for him I think.
It OFFENDS me that someone would carelessly defame his dedication to this
hobby  as " god-modering".

And  Rob.. if you are good I will share my Gobstoppers :-)

Rosie



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>
> Mark Bostick wrote
> >I would purchase a couple magazines and usually some Wally Wonka candy.
>
>
> That's Willy Wonka Mark.
> WILL - E- WONKA.
> The comic I can take take but this is war.
>
> --
> Rob Wesel
> --
> We are the music makers...and we
> are the dreamers of the dreams.
> Willy Wonka, 1971
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Light Up The Sky Over Canada

[Rosemary Hackney]

Ok?  I will bite. Seems I missed something. Are we referring to the
fireball?  or Tagish Lake?  Even if you can swim, and found the meteorite,
the Canadian government would not let you keep it.. would it? It would have
been nice if Tagish Lake were magnetic.. then you could at least trying
scouring the bottom with a magnet.  But alas.. it was Carbonaceous.

Another question... Someone mentioned the fireball lasting 3 hours??  Now
That is strange. All ufos I ever saw for long periods, just sat still and
tried to hide among the stars. Sometimes they would zigzag. Sometimes they
would just take their sweet times traveling around. Sometimes they would
make a humming noise. Other times they were silent. Sometimes they would
pulsate or glow different colors. Other times just were a blue white  like a
star... blending in.  Anyway.. This just sounded strange to me.. 3 hours.
Or am I just misinterpreting the info?

P.S.  Roman.. do you have a list of your metal specimen plates listed
somewhere? Mark said to ask you.

Rosie
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> You - no name.
>
> Can't swim?
>
> Roman Jirasek
> www.meteoritelabels.com
>
>
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> > Oh goodyamother possible opportunity for the Canadian government to
> let another meteorite disolve into oblivion, ala Tagish Lake.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Aniversary Online Show

[Rosemary Hackney]

I am game..if not gamy :-)

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Aniversary Online Show


> Good Evening List...
>
> I know that this is not really a meteorite sale list, but I was wondering
how everyone would feel if we held an online meteorite show of some sort
during the last weekend of every March in commemoration of the Park Forest
fall. Over the course of the weekend both dealers and collectors could hold
and/or participate in special online auctions, "spring cleaning" sales, chat
room meetings with special guests, and other meteorite activities either
related to or not related to the Park Forest fall. Maybe a Saturday
afternoon gathering/hunting of some sort in the Park Forest area? Would
anyone be interested, or is it just another ridiculous late night idea of
mine?  ;  )
>
> Yours In Meteorites,
>
> Ryan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto - Part 2 of 2

[Rosemary Hackney]

Sharky. Whatever floats your boat.
 
Rosie

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  Part 2 of 2
  
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  if it had an orbit around a star it was called aplanet. If it 
orbited  anything else, like a planet, I would consider it 
amoon.
  But by that definition (as opposed to a size/mass-based definition), 
  wouldn't a comet also be considered a planet?
   
  GregoryJ. 
  Gregory Wilson2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918Santa Monica, CA 
  90403

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto - Part 2 of 2

[Rosemary Hackney]

I have always considered if it had an orbit around a star it was called a
planet. If it orbited  anything else, like a planet, I would consider it a
moon. Not that I am an expert.. but it seems to be it would depend on the
body it orbited.

Satellite of a star = planet
Satellite of planet or other body = moon

Even the asteroid belt is considered the remnants of a planet either that
did not form or exploded.

My 2 cents worth.

Rosie
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> Sky & Telescope, March 1990, pp. 295-296:
> A Far Out Planet, George Lovi, excerpt:
>
> Finally, a rather interesting astronomical issue has surfaced as to
whether
> Pluto should legitimately be included in the roster of nine major planets.
Its
> decidedly small size (some 2,280 km across) makes it considerably smaller
> than any other planet, even smaller than several planetary satellites
(including
> our own Moon). It also has a most unplanetary, asteroid-like orbit.
>
> For sometime people have suggested that Pluto is an escaped satellite of
> Neptune, one resembling Triton. Others have proposed that Pluto might be
> some sort of condensed clumping of icy cometary nuclei, or the material
that
> makes up these bodies.
>
> It's really too bad that we cannot look forward anytime soon to a probe
answering
> some of our questions about this "neither fish nor fowl" planet - or
whatever it happens
> to be.
>
>
> CRUIKSHANK D.P. (1999) Pluto and Charon edited by S. Alan
> Stern and David Tholen (MAPS 34-4, 1999, 682, excerpt):
>
> While this book is at least a wonderful compilation of our best
understanding of Pluto and
> Charon, it also represents a window on the other small bodies of the outer
solar system,
> notably Triton, a few other outer planet satellites, and the newly
revealed population of icy
> bodies constituting the Kuiper Disk.
>
> Many Kuiper Disk objects share Pluto's orbital resonance with Neptune;
vastly more lie
> beyond Pluto and form a distribution that may extend to 200 AU or more.
Indeed, Pluto
> and Charon appear to be only the largest known representatives of this
new-found
> component of the solar system. Although the exploration of the Kuiper Disk
is in its
> infancy, this book about the properties of Pluto and Charon in its broader
context helps
> to establish the importance of primitive icy bodies and is a kind of
guidebook toward the
> understanding of their physical properties.
>
> This excellent book is a credit to the Arizona series, to its editors, and
to the chapter authors.
> I recommended it to investigators in the field, advanced students, and
science libraries without
> reservation. (D.P. Cruikshank)
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: blueberry triplets?

[Rosemary Hackney]

Reminds be of budding yeast.

Rosie
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>
> From: "chris sharp"
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:50 PM
> Subject: blueberry triplets?
>
>
> Hi List,
>
> I was surfing the Mar's rover sites and stumbled across this image.
>
>
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/046/1M132266828EFF05AMP2937M2M1.HTML
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> cheers to all
>
> chris sharp
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD:Not a happy 'Campo'

[Rosemary Hackney]

Usually Methanol is an impurity. It is poisonous if 
taken internally. 
 
Rosie

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  To: 'Howard Wu' ; mark ford ; Bob C. 
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  'Campo'
  
  Hi 
  Howard, et. al.,
   
  > 
  Most Pure ethanol still has 4% water. Why not use 99% 
  isopropanol, 
  > for the money probably the best buy. 
   
  I 
  think denatured alcohol is higher than 96% ethyl alcohol; however, 
  the
  impurities put in to make it undrinkable (and thus comparatively 
  cheap
  since it isn't taxed like liquor) remind me that I should look into 
  what
  those impurities ARE.  Could be that when denatured alcohol 
  evaporates,
  it 
  leaves behind the sticky residue of whatever those impurities 
  happen
  to 
  be, and that might not be so good for meteorites.
   
  I'd 
  be surprised if isopropanol was any cheaper per gallon than 
  denatured
  alcohol -- always seems pretty expensive at the drugstore.  And if 
  you're
  using either ethanol or isopropanol as a soaking solution with 
  sodium
  hydroxide, you're going to have to add water anyway -- I don't 
  think
  NaOH 
  is very soluble in either one.
   
  --Rob
   

Re: [meteorite-list] AD ebay- Nothing rare- just very nice :-)

[Rosemary Hackney]

Lars... they wait until 15 seconds before auction end to snipe.. LOL.

My boy Pekka did that until he ran me up to @ 200.00 once.. We figured that
meteorite sold for 30,000 a gram. in the final analysis..lmao.
Bad  Pekka. Sometimes is not good to have a high proxy.  But you
will get bids the closer it comes to close. Anyway.. I bid on the Huckitta.
What is the Ries CD about?

Good luck.

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD ebay- Nothing rare- just very nice :-)


item# 2230627169 : BIG... NWA 869 fullslice Look
item# 2230627690 : NWA 869 fullslice
item# 2230628207 : Huckitta Pallasite full slice
item# 2230628698 : Original Ries crater cd

Hi all
Aparently noone want to buy my stuff
Looks like I am in for a loss . ;-)
It is not rare stuf, but there are some very nice pieces.

Just wanted to let you know about it.

Lars Pedersen

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Re: [meteorite-list] Former Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Bush Space Plan

[Rosemary Hackney]

SDI has been around  Since Reagan. Black ops 
money has funneled through the Navy budget for decades.
 
Am wondering what " real" science is.  Science 
comes from the Latin 'sciens' meaning "to know".  A lot of technology 
we take for granted has been a by - product of the space program.  Even 
Einstein and Oppenheimer worked on 
" secret"  space related programs. Maybe that 
is where E=mc (squared)  came from.
 
Rosie

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list 
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Former 
  Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Bush Space Plan
  
  Come on now, there are some rational criticism that can be made on 
  scientific and bugetary grounds. And Senator Glenn has been an in the 
  loop NASA advocate for years and very qualified to put foward an 
  opinion.
   
   Besides this new policy is not yet writen in stone and is likely to 
  further evolve as time goes on. Bushie didn't write this policy he just signed 
  off on it.  It is high on Flash Gordon adventure while cutting 
  into real science. Actually I kind of like it except for the hidden star wars 
  elements. 
   
  Howard Wu[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [meteorite-list] uhauhauha

[Rosemary Hackney]

I thank all for the elucidation on uhauhaua aka hahaha aka
muahhuua ( evil laugh). aka teehee... which has no reference
to meteorites.. ( thanks Michael).  I perceive ( i before e  except after
C ) that this has the somewhat similar evolution as to " plucking yew". (
the derogatory overtones).

Rosie
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> Dear Dave and Rosemary (Missed ya in Tucson, Rosie)
> Actually, "hahahaha" is derived from the Saxon, "huhuhuhu"
> meaning, "what the hell is going on?" However, in the thirteenth
> century it was in common usage by the Anglos who used it as
> an expression of humor (with derogatory overtones aimed at the
> Saxons).  Over the centuries the pronunciation changed
> (during the period of The Great English Vowel Shift) to what
> we see today: "hahahaha," a synonym of "teehee," meaning,
> "that's funny."
> Hope this clears it up.
> Professor Blood
>
>
> on 3/4/04 9:48 AM, Dave Andrews at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Rosemary Hackney wrote:
> >> What is uhauhaua ? Is it a meteorite? or is it more akin to
> >> Mawah?
> >> Just curious.
> >>
> >> Rosie
> >>
> > Hi Rosie,
> > I think it's "hahahaha" in Swedish.  ;-)
> > Dave
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Fwd: uhauhauha

[Rosemary Hackney]

What is uhauhaua ? Is it a meteorite? or is it more akin to
Mawah?

Just curious.

Rosie
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> Farmer, you're bothering other people all the time. Nice words of crap.
You always write BULLSHIT. Any more slander from you and you'll find
yourself in a courtroom.
>
> oxoxox
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Re: [meteorite-list] A "Strike" with a spare ball

[Rosemary Hackney]

Aw Greg...
 
I may still have the brains of a duck...but my bro has the trophies.
 
You are still jealous cuz the voices talk to me...   :-)
 
Rosie

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  with a spare ball
  
  
  
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My bro was a champion flour bomber from his 
little Grummen.( Ruffles,
cuz she had ridges) 
  :-).
  Hi, Rosie.    
   
  Can you hear mimes?    
  ;-)
   
     
  Gregory 
  

Re: [meteorite-list] A "Strike" with a spare ball

[Rosemary Hackney]

h.. In a vacuum, Galileo proved that a feather 
and a rock fell at the same rate.  32 ft per second per second. ( gravity ) 

 
The difference outside of a vacuum depends on the 
density of air i.e sea level.. or airplane altitude.. Air currents.. temperature 
and shape of the item.
 
Terminal velocity for a skydiver in vertical 
position is @ 180 mph. Tracking ( delta position) maybe @ 200mph.
 
by the by.. My bro was a champion flour bomber from 
his little Grummen.( Ruffles,
cuz she had ridges) :-).
 
Rosie

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  with a spare ball
  Hola Rob,You're right about the 
  terminal velocity of a chondrite, in the shape of a bowling ball being much 
  faster than a conventional bowling ball.  This might still be a little 
  counter intuitive, but, here are some 9 inch diameter bowling ball terminal 
  velocities (there's a lot of algebra behind all the numbers that 
  follow):Doug's really heavy 14 pounder (6.35 kg): 153 mph (69 
  m/s)Rob's super duper heavy 16 pounder (7.26 kg): 164 mph (73 m/s)A 
  bowling ball with a density of 2g/mL = 12.51 kg = 27.6 pounds: 215 mph (96 
  m/s)Typical chondrite ball  @ 3.65 g/mL (50.3 pounds or 22.83 kg): 
  291 mph (130 m/s)Iron meteorite ball @ 8.0 g/mL (110.3 pounds or 50.0 
  kg):  431 mph (192 m/s)Shield shaped Iron (Cabin Creek AR): 300 
  mph (134 m/s)Oriented fat beer can shaped Iron at 50 kg (length = 3 times 
  diameter): 700 mph (312 m/s)Cabin Creek shaped Chrondrite: 202 mph (90 
  m/s)Oriented fat beer can chrondrite as above: 473 mph (211 m/s)So 
  for a bowling ball shape, it would actually take an iron to achieve the 140 
  m/s, an ordinary chondrite falls somewhat slower, in the shape of a bowling 
  ball.Could an ordinary Doug's bowling ball fall at the rate of a 
  chondrite?  Maybe, at the limits.  We have focused more on mass for 
  the given cross sectional area.  But to fall at the same terminal rate, 
  all that is required is the same ratio of sqrt(mass)/sqrt(X-area) or really 
  just mass divided by area being the same.  So, if it is twice the 
  density, it needs to be cut in half.  Could an Iron fall at the same rate 
  of the ordinary bowling ball?  Probably not, but for illustration, let's 
  consider Cabin Creek, which is quite close to the 50 kg - the same size as our 
  bowling ball - and a wonderful oriented shield shape I'd say around the 
  dimension ratio 33 X 33 X 10.  That actually gives around double the 
  surface area as the spherical solid bowling ball shape, so it probably fell at 
  about "only" 300 mph (134 m/s), close to a bowling ball chondrite.  In 
  the other hand a cylindrical shape (I arbitrarily set the length three times 
  the diameter.Of course there are other considerations like the 
  frictional ablation shaping, which is why cylinders turn into nosecones and 
  bullets, and it is no wonder that the Cabin Creek sample was know to be hot 
  upon fall.  All the acceleration due to gravity holding back a 50 kg mass 
  of iron several hundred miles per hour is dissapated into heat.  
  Alternately nosecones are more likely to be cool and also with less 
  thumbprinting.The table above summarizes all my calculations, maybe 
  there is an error, but I hope not.  This should clear up free fall of 
  stones that lose their "cosmic velocity" as well as for bowling balls, and how 
  it fits in.  A person typically free falls at 110 mph or so thought they 
  can double that by playing with orientation.  Ha.  The calculations 
  also showe this doubling effect for likely masses.  Keep in mind non iron 
  meteorites are practically never going to stand the shear frictional forces of 
  shield shapes and "explode" into pieces.  Also for fun, an oriented 
  bowling ball that fractures in exactly two hemispherical pieces traveling 
  terminally at 150 mph will leave the two fragments at a terminal rate of ... 
  106 mph a piece.  That's probably why "explosions" seem to brighten 
  fireballs.  Suddenly the greater surface area for the same total mass 
  steps up the overal frictional energy released and the meteors slow down from 
  an instantly greater potential.I get into this stuff.  That's why 
  I liked the bowling ball expt. which really sounds like an excuse for some 
  fun.SaludosDoug DawnMexico   En un 
  mensaje con fecha 03/02/2004 7:26:12 PM Mexico Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
  Hi Doug,  Good point on the density of a 
bowling ball.  Intuitively, I would have guessedthe density was around 2 
g/cm^3, when in fact it is barely above 1 g/cm^3 --about 1.15 for a 16-lb ball 
(the mass I was assuming).  An ordinary chondriteof the same size would weigh 
close to 50 lbs!  So yes, air friction is going tobe a serious factor, and a 
bowling ball isn't going to have a chance of reachingthe

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite economics revisited

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Wu
Am bundling up my meteorites and hiding them under 
the... oh No you don't.. Not gonna part me from them that easily.  Remind 
me to charge you higher prices next time ...
 
Rosie

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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 
  economics revisited
  
  
  
.Since meteorites are a non-essential commodity, if theprice is too 
high, people simply go without.
Rob are you kinding! They are more addictive than Heroin. 
Howard
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] sterilizing that probe...!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Ethylene oxide.

Rosie
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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sterilizing that probe...!


> Hi,
> Somewhat off-topic I know but... I have been trying to figure out how one
> can sterilize these various Mars probes, knowing how tenacious life can
seem
> to be.
> Surely NASA cannot be seen to contaminate the (potential) Martian
biosphere
>  and there is a lot of hardware that needs to be quite literally 100%
> sterile - otherwise, how would one know whether or not the signatures of
> life that may be found were not terrestrial in origin?
> How on Earth does one sterilize Mylar, for example?
>
> Unknowledgebly yours
>
>
>
> dave
>
> IMCA #0092
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Party + "Meteorite" Mag. News

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmmm Geoff
Whut is a Noo Yoke Sity? You catch on fast where the SOUTH is ..lol.
I hope you love it there.

Rosie
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> Finally, on a personal note, I announced at the birthday party that I 
> have recently relocated to the great city of Tucson, Arizona, where 
> I seem to have quite a number of famous meteorite-hunting neighbors! 
> I have been here since early January and can no longer even remember 
> where New York is  : )
> 
> Regards to all,
> 
> Geoff N.
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT; Italian mafia and the mail?

[Rosemary Hackney]

I sent a package to Belgium and it took almost 2 months to get to the buyer.
You should have seen all the threats and nasty- grams I got from that one!!
And this was the second one I sent.

Rosie
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> Hello List, I know there is a great problem with the mail in Italy with
the
> Italian mafia and all, but how long do I wait? I had an Italian winner of
> one of my auctions who had a feedback rating of 9, but one was a negative
> for "non paying bidder". This auction ended the 2/11 and on 2/14 he said
he
> was sending payment. Today being the 26th, I am wondering if the  Italian
> mafia got a hold of his mail, the mails slow from Italy, or if the buyer
is
> pulling a second "non paying bidder" game?  How long do you wait for mail
to
> arrive from over seas? It is so hard to communicate with him due to our
> language differences.
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA #6168
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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy birthday Paragould!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Yup.. Zag ... that is it!!

Thanks

Rosie
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> In 1998 both Zag(H3-6) and Monahans(H5) fell that have the blue halite
> crystals in them that turned a blue-purple color from UV radiation in
space.
> In these crystals were small bits of brine(salt) water.
>
> JD
>
> > Wow Christian.. It is a beauty. Do those blue inclusions contain water?
> > There was another ( lost in my mind somewhere) that had blue crystals
that
> > had water locked in them.. But as hard as I siphon, the info will not
> > surface from the murky depths.  Anyway...is a pretty meteorite.
> >
> > Rosie
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Ing. Christian ANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:39 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy birthday Paragould!
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I agree to Mike. Paragould is hard to get. And it is a real beauty
too.
> > > I'd like to share a pic of my collection piece with you.
> > >
> > > www.austromet.com/Paragould_1.766g.jpg
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > > IMCA #2673
> > > www.austromet.com
> > >
> > > Ing. Christian ANGER
> > > Korngasse 6
> > > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
> > > AUSTRIA
> > >
> > > email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> > > Farmer
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:52 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday Paragould!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all, today is an important day in meteoritics. The Paragould
meteorite
> > > fell on this day in 1930 in Greene County Arkansas.
> > > This meteorite is important as it was Niningers first large meteorite
> > chase,
> > > he got the meteorite, and it started his hunting that recovered more
> > > meteorites than anyone.
> > > I have a few small pieces of this rare meteorite, nearly impossible to
get
> > > in any form, and I just loaded one today on eBay.
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2226617839
> > >
> > > Mike Farmer
> > >
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] shatter cone help?(quazi-risque)

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Elton.. you are Bad.

But I have been meaning to saunter up to Wells Creek to see what I can find
when the weather gets a little drier.  Was out today in area of Mansker
Creek looking.. I heard one fell there not long ago..but I guess I was in
the wrong area.  Oh well.

Rosie
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> Hello Tom, List, Scone Lovers
> Usually the material for sale is cone sections, rarely symmetrical, with
> or without other partial cones. There is usually one or more on eBlagh
> Humbug.
>
> Here is a great one and, if you can get a matched pair,  you can have
> all the impact fantasies you can handle.  This is premium and I've never
> seen one like this offered for sale. It is a shame you can only have one.
>
>  (Wells Creek, Tn Impact
> Structure)
>
> (Remember, like other similar objects,  it isn't  size which matters
> most, What matters most is whether or not the owner will let you play
> with them).
>
> Innocently,
> Elton
>
> Tom aka James Knudson wrote:
>
> >Hello List, I am contemplating adding a shatter cone to my collection,
but,
> >I know nothing about them!  Can someone tell me what to look for when
> >shopping for a shatter cone? I am only getting one, so I want it to be
the
> >right one! : )
> >Thanks, Tom
> >
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy birthday Paragould!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Wow Christian.. It is a beauty. Do those blue inclusions contain water?
There was another ( lost in my mind somewhere) that had blue crystals that
had water locked in them.. But as hard as I siphon, the info will not
surface from the murky depths.  Anyway...is a pretty meteorite.

Rosie
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy birthday Paragould!


> Hi all,
>
> I agree to Mike. Paragould is hard to get. And it is a real beauty too.
> I'd like to share a pic of my collection piece with you.
>
> www.austromet.com/Paragould_1.766g.jpg
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christian
>
>
> IMCA #2673
> www.austromet.com
>
> Ing. Christian ANGER
> Korngasse 6
> 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
> AUSTRIA
>
> email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> Farmer
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday Paragould!
>
>
> Hi all, today is an important day in meteoritics. The Paragould meteorite
> fell on this day in 1930 in Greene County Arkansas.
> This meteorite is important as it was Niningers first large meteorite
chase,
> he got the meteorite, and it started his hunting that recovered more
> meteorites than anyone.
> I have a few small pieces of this rare meteorite, nearly impossible to get
> in any form, and I just loaded one today on eBay.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2226617839
>
> Mike Farmer
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin Pronounciation Help

[Rosemary Hackney]

Tuffa I have.. orangettes.. I don't 
know.
 
Rosie

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:03 
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  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT 
  - Latin Pronounciation Help
  
  Latin is a dead language for a reason.
   
  The song is about a coachroach that is going through marijuana 
  withdraws.
   
  Ask a question about Dhofar orangettes, I get no answer. Make 
  a crass comment about amputation by meteorite I'm popular. What a 
  list...
   
  Bring it on.
   
  Howard
   
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  Hola Rosie,La Cucaracha is actually a quaint song 
about Cannabis sativa (Linnaeus, 1753: an interesting Weed); but la 
cucaracha is indeed a cockroach (Periplaneta americana: Linnaeus, 1758) and 
La cucaracha (Blesynski, 1966) is definitely a certain moth of the La 
genus:)As an Odonatist you could ask a Lepidopterist for further 
clarification, though field studies are always another option, and while I 
see your point, a certain ode of the Pantala genus (sp.: Say, 1839) might be 
more pleasing to to the ear of fellow enthusiasts.Now I'm off topic 
so I'll not elaborate:)SaludosDoug DawnMexicoEn un 
mensaje con fecha 02/18/2004 12:35:18 PM Mexico Standard Time, 
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Asunto: Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin 
  Pronounciation Help Fecha: 02/18/2004 12:35:18 PM Mexico Standard 
  TimeDe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
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  por Internet LOL  amo amas amat amamus amatis 
  amant  I did my thesis on 
  Pachydiplex longipennis :-)  But I think la cucuracha is 
  a roach..  Rosie
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Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin Pronounciation 
HelpG'day,When it comes to Latin in science, you 
really can't go wrong, no matter what anyone says, because the "rules" 
are not absolute, although some modern "experts" try to standardize 
pronunciation.  This is mostly because scientific naming using 
Latin uses the English pronunciation of things like "Caesar" ==> 
pron. César. (Cesar w/ stress on "e").  Also if they are scientific 
names, the original language pronunciation must be conserved for imports 
like for the name of the Bessey's Cherry, "Prunus besseyi", or Farmer's 
Orchid, "Dendrobium farmeri", or the Fijian Snail, "Ba humbugi", or the 
moth "La cucuracha", look up the different species of the Gressittia 
genus if you have a sophomoric sense of humor, and figure out how to 
pronounce that one.However, in Classical Latin (around the time 
of Christ), if that is your interest, pronunciation can be quite 
different, and Caesar is pronounced Kysar; the letter "v" is pronounced 
as "w"; get a copy of Vox Latina by Sidney Allen if you want to do it 
like it is thought the ancients did.In two syllable words, the 
stress ("accent") is almost always on the initial syllable.  If you 
have a short vowel (double consonant) in the second to last syllable in 
words of more than three syllables - i.e., short vowel sound in the 
second to last syllable, the stress is usually on the second to last 
syllable, but there are lots of exceptions derived from letters like th, 
ph, ch, etc. (this can be better appreciated when you keep in mind the 
th sound is from the single Greek letter theta, the ph is also the 
single letter "f" sound from Greek letter phi, and ch is still 
considered a single letter en español.  On the oher hand the "x" is 
considered two consonants as it is pronounced "ks" and second to last 
syllable is the tendency producing a short vowel sound as in 
"Lexus-Nexus" or Texas, rather than TEEX-as; similarly the long sound in 
words like "pinus" which thankfully botanists say PYE-nis instead of 
PEE-nus, lu-PYE-nus instead of lu-PEE-nis.This all seems close 
enough to on-list to me if you want to study place names of ancient 
meteorites for a good part of the then governed world, or old scientific 
descriptions of rocks and suspected falls.SaludosDoug 
DawnMexicoEn un mensaje con fecha 02/17/2004 10:45:58 PM 
Mexico Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
Asunto: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin 
  Pronounciation Help Fecha: 02/17/2004 10:45:58 PM Mexico 
  Standard TimeDe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: 
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  por Internet G'day all,Sorry for the 
  slightly OT topic. In some of my meteorite readi

Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin Pronounciation Help

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL  
 
amo amas amat amamus amatis amant
 
I did my thesis on Pachydiplex longipennis 
:-)
 
But I think la cucuracha is a roach..
 
Rosie

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  - Latin Pronounciation Help
  G'day,When it comes to Latin in 
  science, you really can't go wrong, no matter what anyone says, because the 
  "rules" are not absolute, although some modern "experts" try to standardize 
  pronunciation.  This is mostly because scientific naming using Latin uses 
  the English pronunciation of things like "Caesar" ==> pron. César. (Cesar 
  w/ stress on "e").  Also if they are scientific names, the original 
  language pronunciation must be conserved for imports like for the name of the 
  Bessey's Cherry, "Prunus besseyi", or Farmer's Orchid, "Dendrobium farmeri", 
  or the Fijian Snail, "Ba humbugi", or the moth "La cucuracha", look up the 
  different species of the Gressittia genus if you have a sophomoric sense of 
  humor, and figure out how to pronounce that one.However, in Classical 
  Latin (around the time of Christ), if that is your interest, pronunciation can 
  be quite different, and Caesar is pronounced Kysar; the letter "v" is 
  pronounced as "w"; get a copy of Vox Latina by Sidney Allen if you want to do 
  it like it is thought the ancients did.In two syllable words, the 
  stress ("accent") is almost always on the initial syllable.  If you have 
  a short vowel (double consonant) in the second to last syllable in words of 
  more than three syllables - i.e., short vowel sound in the second to last 
  syllable, the stress is usually on the second to last syllable, but there are 
  lots of exceptions derived from letters like th, ph, ch, etc. (this can be 
  better appreciated when you keep in mind the th sound is from the single Greek 
  letter theta, the ph is also the single letter "f" sound from Greek letter 
  phi, and ch is still considered a single letter en español.  On the oher 
  hand the "x" is considered two consonants as it is pronounced "ks" and second 
  to last syllable is the tendency producing a short vowel sound as in 
  "Lexus-Nexus" or Texas, rather than TEEX-as; similarly the long sound in words 
  like "pinus" which thankfully botanists say PYE-nis instead of PEE-nus, 
  lu-PYE-nus instead of lu-PEE-nis.This all seems close enough to 
  on-list to me if you want to study place names of ancient meteorites for a 
  good part of the then governed world, or old scientific descriptions of rocks 
  and suspected falls.SaludosDoug DawnMexicoEn un 
  mensaje con fecha 02/17/2004 10:45:58 PM Mexico Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe:
  Asunto: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin Pronounciation 
Help Fecha: 02/17/2004 10:45:58 PM Mexico Standard TimeDe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Enviado 
por Internet G'day all,  Sorry for the slightly OT 
topic. In some of my meteorite readings I came across some Latin words and 
terms. I would like some help with pronouncing them and would certainly 
appreciate any help. If you can speak Latin could you please contact me off 
list?  Thanks,  Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. 
#3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Latin Pronounciation Help

[Rosemary Hackney]

Usually the antepenulitmate syllable is  the 
accented syllable. That is the 3rd syllable from the end.
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jeff Kuyken 
  To: Meteorite List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:43 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - 
  Latin Pronounciation Help
  
  G'day all,
   
  Sorry for the slightly OT topic. In some of my 
  meteorite readings I came across some Latin words and terms. I would 
  like some help with pronouncing them and would certainly appreciate any help. 
  If you can speak Latin could you please contact me off list?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com

[meteorite-list] True Collector or sick?

[Rosemary Hackney]

Tom... baby Steps. Be patient. And just to ween you.. please start sending
your meteorites to me.  :-)

Rosie


> Tom, Tom, Tom. ( shakes head in commiseration)...
>
> Not knowing.. I hesitate to say..  but.. er..um.. but maybe you should
look
> at Tim's signs of addiction realy, reay closely.  And if you see
> yourself thererun.. not walk.. to the nearest meteorite collector's
self
> help group.
>
> Sigh Mark Bostick and I  would welcome you with open arms We
> understand. Just  take a deep breath and say ... " I am addicted"...
>
> Now.. doesn't that feel better. Hey.. I pay my shrink 150.00 for that.
>
 Hehe..
>
> Rosie


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Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor

[Rosemary Hackney]

? I do not understand at all.  Idiot Proud 
Tom?? Is that supposed to be Tom Knudson?  And why? Michael Blood is the 
only one I recognized for sure.  But Michael has always been more than fair 
with me and he is a very nice guy. I do not understand the cut.  I have 
bought things from Matteo in the past and he has always delivered what was 
purchased.  So.. what is going on here? 
 
Matteo... we don't send out Marines on our 
citizens. Or anyone else on our citizens.
 
 I am a member of the United States Air Force 
Auxiliary which has now been  assigned to the authority of the 
Department of Homeland Security.  Our citizens  "are"  the 
Government.  That is the reason Government employees are called  " 
public servants".  Even the President is a " public servant"
 
Rosie
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael Farmer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:22 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his 
  lack of humor
  
  http://it.geocities.com/idiotproudtom2003/
   
  Did everyone see this? Matteo showing his best 
  side, trashing everyone who has crossed him. I don't really care what an 
  imbecile like him thinks about me, but trashing some of the other people he 
  did shows what a coward he is. 
  Art Jones, Geoff Notkin, how could you ever think 
  something bad about either one of them? 
  Can someone teach him how to be funny, think up 
  something new perhaps? 
  I would do  a page about him, but 
  photographing a horses %$$%hole is not my idea of fun. 
  Mike Farmer

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Creed - 12 steps for the addict

[Rosemary Hackney]

Owwies.. Tim
 
I have no clue as to how many I have @ 500?? And I have hidden many of them 
from my self.  ( ohno )!!    Am I beyond my Zoloft 
intake?  Is there hope?
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Heitz 
  To: Meteorite Mailing List 
  
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:44 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Creed 
  - 12 steps for the addict
  
  Hello List,
   
  I want to share this with all you Meteorite Addicts out there
  http://www.meteorman.org/Meteorite_Creed.htm
   
  If there is something here that needs to be added please let me 
know
  I'm willing to refine it  
   
   
  Best,
  Tim Heitz
   
  MIDWEST METEORITES - http://www.meteorman.org
   
<>

Re: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars?

[Rosemary Hackney]

Moqui marbles

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Bjørn Sørheim'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars?


Those spheres are really something. I am in the camp of them falling
into the sediment along with ash. Low gravity ejection of molten
volcanic material could be a possibility but I like a tektite type of
process from an impact, which seems the likely suspect in the perfect
spherical shape, and minimal staining of the surrounding rock. An
incoming bolide with an air burst could probably be an answer but what
are the odds of landing on such a strewnfield. Any concretion I have
ever seen left an irregular spherical shell of stained rock around it,
and it does not look like this is the case here (but what the hell do I
know about how Mars would deal with such processes). The analysis of the
spheres themselves should tell the whole story. Very exciting stuff.

CharlyV

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Sørheim
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Mark,
It certainly is the science team at JPL's idea that
the 'round guys' are embedded in the outcrop.
For instance Dr. Squyres were talking about wheter they could
see the layers curving above or below the balls, or wheter it is
possible to see if the balls have made a small dent in the layering
when they, possibly, fell down from above.
Also the closeup pictures suggest the balls are firmly embedded
in there.
The big question is how did they all get so perfectly round, and
what kind of geologic process would produce such a weird 'bedrock'.

Regards,
Bjørn Sørheim


At 15:40 13.02.04 -0500, you wrote:
>> Hello List,
>> I guess you all have seen those pictures coming from Mars at the
>> the Meridiani Planum/Opportunity site.
>>
>> Embedded in, and eroding out of the bedrock in the sidewall of the
>> 20 m crater where Opportunity is located, are those <5mm perfect
>> spherical stones.
>
>> Regards,
>> Bjørn Sørheim
>>
>
>Curious stuff, and this was my initial reaction, too.  But, on closer
>examination, I remain unconvinced these spherules are actually
>weathering out of the exposed bedrock.  It looks to me as though
they're
>everywhere, including on and in the "soil" above the outcrop. Assuming
>these things gradually migrate downslope, I don't suppose it is
>impossible for some of them to lodge in the cracks and bedding planes
of
>the exposed rock.
>
>Stay tuned ...
>
>Mark


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT; Italian translation help?

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Ken.

Don't you just love it when ebay translates your message into another
language. I have one from Belgium.

Chère/Cher brahin90,

J'enverrai sous peu un paiement de $13.50 par Autres modes de paiement en
ligne.  Total :   $13.50
L'adresse de livraison est la suivante :


I await my NWA 1810 is an EL5.

Rosie


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Tom AKA James Knudson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite-List
(E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OT; Italian translation help?


> Hi Tom & List
>
> I translated on a software translator that I reckon must be similar to
> Matteo's !
> +++
> original :
>
> Caro Tom
> Vorrei pagare tramite Western Union, mi poui mandare il tuo indirizzo
> esatto,
> e l'importo totale.
> Grazie
>
> becomes :
>
> Tom beloved I would want to pay through Union Western, me poui to send
> your exact address, and the amount total.  Thanks
>
> +++
>
> See what I mean :-)
>
>
> All the best
>
> Ken O'Neill
> IMCA #9465
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom AKA
> James Knudson
> Sent: 13 February 2004 15:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [meteorite-list] OT; Italian translation help?
>
>
> Hello, Can anyone translate this for me?
>
> Caro Tom
> Vorrei pagare tramite Western Union, mi poui mandare il tuo indirizzo
> esatto,
> e l'importo totale.
> Grazie
>
> Thanks, Tom
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmm.. Charles..
That is an interesting thought, You are right. Volcanoes can throw it up for
sure.
Mt St Helen dust was all over the place down here.

Another thought I had...watch out.  That the trinitite was formed in a sandy
area ( White Sands). Elma is in Washington (  sandy ocean beaches) Iran (
open sandy deserts). Is there a common ground here ( no pun ). I have heard
of lightening strikes on the Dunes in Colorado ( sandy mountains) and
fulgurites forms from the fusion. Has there been any analysis between the
geometeorite and fulgurites?  or am I stretching here?

Thanks for the thoughts Charles.

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin


>
> Rosie, et al...
>
> That was interesting, and I read some of that as well. Another
> possibility, and bit of a stretch.. but plausible:  Just like we have
> Martian meteorites here on earth, so would we not have some of the
> ejecta from our terrestrial impacts also in orbit around the Sun, and
> should we not expect some of our own material to come back to earth as
> well? The question is what would material like that look like, and how
> would it analyze? It should have characteristics of both terrestrial
> matter, and matter that has been exposed to cosmic rays, with a fusion
> crust from re-entry I would imagine. How could we prove (or disprove)
> the origin of this material?  Just another thought..
>
> CharlyV
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemary
> Hackney
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:34 PM
> To: Adam Hupe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin
>
> Hello  Adam, et al... Sorry I missed everyone at Tucson. Had the flu bug
> or
> some virus.  Still is hanging on 3-4 weeks now. Doc said I would
> live..lol.
> I hope Michael forgave me for not showing up.. I tried to recruit Dean
> in my
> place.
> Yes Tom.. I have some nice new ones :-)
> A 8.6 gram Drakes Creek from Tennessee. An area near me.  Is pretty. And
> a
> Huss Anthony I just won.
>
> But back to the Elma... When I was around White Sands, I went to the
> back
> side to the Trinity site. I found a little rock shop outside the
> boundary.
> They had Trinitite form the Trinity site. I bought some of it.  The Elma
> reminds me of the Trinitite in composition and appearance.
>
> As to the Geometeorites.. There is a nice article on the internet about
> geometeorites. Just plug  Geometeorite into a search engine.  The
> physicist
> who wrote this article seemed to think Elma was a geometeorite. The
> explanation made sense to me.  From what I understand, it is formed when
> Lightening fuses material aloft in the upper atmosphere.  It stands to
> reason material would be aloft from tornadoes or wind sheer or frontal
> winds. When  lightening strikes the material, it fuses into glass like
> objects that fall out of the atmosphere... like meteorites.. ergo
> "geometeorite" because the material was terrestrial in origin.
>
> Anyway...just a thought.
>
> Rosie
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin
>
>
> > Dear Charles, Rosemary and List,
> >
> > Dr. Andrei Ol'khovatov from Moscow, Russia weighed in on the Elma
> incident
> > and came to the same conclusion, a geometeorite was to blame.  It is
> amazing
> > how similar the two events are.  The kid with the burnt fingers in
> Elma
> and
> > a kid with a burnt face in Iran.  Three laboratories weighed in on the
> Elma
> > incident.  Two believe it to be a geophysical event and one believes
> there
> > is a more earthly explanation.  To me it is an unsolved mystery.  I
> stopped
> > commenting in public because there is no way to prove what happened
> either
> > way and it was causing some grief with a few List members.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > IMCA 2185
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Meteorite Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:53 PM
> > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical
> Origin
> >
> >
> > > It very well could be related, and

Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hello  Adam, et al... Sorry I missed everyone at Tucson. Had the flu bug or
some virus.  Still is hanging on 3-4 weeks now. Doc said I would live..lol.
I hope Michael forgave me for not showing up.. I tried to recruit Dean in my
place.
Yes Tom.. I have some nice new ones :-)
A 8.6 gram Drakes Creek from Tennessee. An area near me.  Is pretty. And a
Huss Anthony I just won.

But back to the Elma... When I was around White Sands, I went to the back
side to the Trinity site. I found a little rock shop outside the boundary.
They had Trinitite form the Trinity site. I bought some of it.  The Elma
reminds me of the Trinitite in composition and appearance.

As to the Geometeorites.. There is a nice article on the internet about
geometeorites. Just plug  Geometeorite into a search engine.  The physicist
who wrote this article seemed to think Elma was a geometeorite. The
explanation made sense to me.  From what I understand, it is formed when
Lightening fuses material aloft in the upper atmosphere.  It stands to
reason material would be aloft from tornadoes or wind sheer or frontal
winds. When  lightening strikes the material, it fuses into glass like
objects that fall out of the atmosphere... like meteorites.. ergo
"geometeorite" because the material was terrestrial in origin.

Anyway...just a thought.

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin


> Dear Charles, Rosemary and List,
>
> Dr. Andrei Ol'khovatov from Moscow, Russia weighed in on the Elma incident
> and came to the same conclusion, a geometeorite was to blame.  It is
amazing
> how similar the two events are.  The kid with the burnt fingers in Elma
and
> a kid with a burnt face in Iran.  Three laboratories weighed in on the
Elma
> incident.  Two believe it to be a geophysical event and one believes there
> is a more earthly explanation.  To me it is an unsolved mystery.  I
stopped
> commenting in public because there is no way to prove what happened either
> way and it was causing some grief with a few List members.
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> IMCA 2185
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles Viau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Meteorite Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin
>
>
> > It very well could be related, and why it was so important to properly
> > document the Elma incident, even though all of the 'experts' gave the
> > principal investigators such grief. This is what science is all about. I
> > would hope that there are some geo-physicists out there that will want
> > to pull some of this material together from those 3 sources and look for
> > similarities. The people who witnessed such events were not stupid, nor
> > were they having any hallucinations.
> >
> > CharlyV
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemary
> > Hackney
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:12 PM
> > To: Ron Baalke; Meteorite Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin
> >
> > Is this similar to the Elma incident?  Elma intrigues me. It looks like
> > sand
> > or particulate material  having been fused. Perhaps was sucked up by a
> > dust
> > devil or other storm wind and electrical discharge in  the atmosphere
> > fused
> > it like glass? Anyway.. is this Iranian material  considered a
> > geometeorite
> > also?
> >
> > Rosie
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:38 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.nojum.net/news/newse.asp?newsid=34
> > >
> > > PRESS-RELEASE: Feb 8, 2004
> > > CONTACTS: Mr. Pouria Nazemi,
> > > Tel: +98 (021) 827 0029
> > > E mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > INTERNATIONAL GROUP OF EXPERTS COMES TO CONCLUSION THAT THE FIREBALL
> > > FALLEN ON THE IRANIAN TOWN OF BABOL ON JANUARY 2, 2004 WAS NOT A
> > METEORITE,
> > > BUT WAS OF GEOPHYSICAL ORIGIN
> > >
> > > On January 2, 2004 a report appeared about a meteorite fall on the
> > town
> > > of Babol, Iran. A gro

Re: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin

[Rosemary Hackney]

Is this similar to the Elma incident?  Elma intrigues me. It looks like sand
or particulate material  having been fused. Perhaps was sucked up by a dust
devil or other storm wind and electrical discharge in  the atmosphere fused
it like glass? Anyway.. is this Iranian material  considered a geometeorite
also?

Rosie
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:38 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Iranian Fireball Was Of Geophysical Origin


>
>
> http://www.nojum.net/news/newse.asp?newsid=34
>
> PRESS-RELEASE: Feb 8, 2004
> CONTACTS: Mr. Pouria Nazemi,
> Tel: +98 (021) 827 0029
> E mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> INTERNATIONAL GROUP OF EXPERTS COMES TO CONCLUSION THAT THE FIREBALL
> FALLEN ON THE IRANIAN TOWN OF BABOL ON JANUARY 2, 2004 WAS NOT A
METEORITE,
> BUT WAS OF GEOPHYSICAL ORIGIN
>
> On January 2, 2004 a report appeared about a meteorite fall on the town
> of Babol, Iran. A group of Iranian experts associated with Nojum
(Astronomy)
> magazine began to investigate. The group consisted of Mr. Pouria Nazemi,
who
> has a large expertise in seeking scientific news and contacted many
> organizations to collect more information and also a science journalist
> (Mathematics BSc.), Miss Mohaddesseh Azimlu who was looking for physical
> explanation for such events since the previous one in some months ago
> (Physics Ms.)
>
> Mr. Iman Naderi, a serious amateur astronomer who didn't miss a moment  to
> reach the place and make early report and photos, Mr. Siavash Safarianpour
> who organizes a daily live TV program in popular astronomy and Mr. Oshin
> Zakarian,  a nature and night sky photographer.
>
> Witnesses reported that the event started with seismic, and sound
phenomena,
> which were followed by unordinary light inside house and explosion with a
> loud sound and ended by falling of a fireball which threw out sparks and
was
> described as a " suspended lightning "about 2 meters in diameter and
> disappeared spontaneously. The boy who came out first and saw the ball had
> burnt his face, but nobody else was hurt.
>
> Despite that the investigation continues, already now it is possible to
> state that the event had nothing to do with a fall of an extraterrestrial
> body, and evidently was of geophysical origin.
>
> Investigation of damage in the town caused by the event reveals that a
> house, which was in the epicenter of the explosion, was badly damaged by
the
> explosion, and many houses within several hundred meters from it have some
> minor damage. No traces of meteorite or any other object fallen were
> discovered. The damage of the house partly was as caused by some energy
> source inside the house, while possibility of a gas explosion etc. can be
> excluded.
>
> After coming to conclusion that the event was caused neither by a
> meteorite, nor by any known made object, the Iranian experts contacted
> Dr. Andrei Ol'khovatov from Moscow, Russia.
>
> He has a special web-page ( http://olkhov.narod.ru/gr1997.htm ) , devoted
to
> similar unexplained fireball falls, which have nothing to do with
meteorite
> falls, but are of geophysical origin. Dr. Ol'khovatov prefers to call them
> geophysical meteors or just geometeors. According to him, these events are
> poorly known, and little plausible physical mechanism was proposed for
them
> yet, but observational data points that geometeors in many aspects
resemble
> an energetic high-speed "ball-lightning". Anyway, a statistical analysis
> conducted by Dr. Ol'khovatov revealed that geometeors have a tendency to
> occur in some special geophysical situations.
>
> So Dr. Ol'khovatov has joined the group of Iranian researchers in
> investigation of the Babol event. One of the tasks was to check whether
> geophysical situation of the Babol event was favorable for geometeors,
> especially in an aspect of cloudiness development in the region. It was
> checked through satellite meteorological diagrams and however it didn't
show
> any cloud in the region, but starting changes in weather condition.
>
> The Babol fireball was neither the first nor the last one in Iran. Some
> months ago Nojum received a report about observing a fire ball on May 23,
> 2003 in Marzanabad, in North of Iran. It was in a rainy evening and big
> thunders occurred continuously. Witnesses saw a high speed fireball hit
two
> old big trees, broke them with a very loud sound and continued its way.
The
> electricity broke in village for a few hours.
>
> On January 21, 2004 another fireball came to visit an Iranian village in
> North West, near MeshkinShahr in Ardabil state. It was again a stormy
night
> that a white fireball, bigger than full moon appeared in the sky and after
> few minutes disappeared. Simultaneously electricity broke in the whole
area
> for several hours and a house was damaged. A part of roof covering was
> disappeared and a wall and door was broken with a loud sound.
>
> As bo

Re: "Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?

[Rosemary Hackney]

 LOL.. now that you mention William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up
the line )  and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty
much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those
Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of
pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. But anywho.. I thought
avoirdupois  meant  "pound"
or the FPS system as opposed to MKS/cgs (metric )

Rosie
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Sterling K. Webb
Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 00:31:01
To: rochette
Cc: meteorite-list
Subject: "Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
 
Hi, Pierre,
 
Of course, Early Middle English is not "just a British expression forged
to look
like French," but French as spoken by the British who were at that time
French, at least the moneyed (and language determining) classes, descendants
of the French who followed Guillaume de Normandie (whom the British now call
William the Conqueror) to England after he defeated Harold Godwinson for the
throne, Harold and his army being exhausted from having defeated another
Viking invasion (this time from Norway) just three weeks earlier. I say
"another" Viking invasion because Guillaume and all his French followers

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Re: [meteorite-list] nevada/honolulu

[Rosemary Hackney]

 But Mark.
 
.5g Honolulu valued @ 400 dollars is $800 a gram
 
Rosie
 
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From: MARK BOSTICK
Date: Thursday, June 05, 2003 21:40:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!; Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] nevada/honolulu
 
 
I thought I was having Tucson show flash backs.  
 

One of the soon to be "classic" moments of the Birthday Bash was the many announcements made by Steve Arnold (the broker) not so much from Steve Arnold (Chicago). The first was "Steve Arnold from Chicago is look for Honolulu meteorites.", the came "Steve Arnold from Chicago has found his Honolulu meteorites for $100.00 a gram", the "Steve Arnold from Chicago is selling his Honolulu meteorite for $200.00 a gram." followed by "Steve Arnold from Chicago is willing to trade his Honolulu meteorite for Nevada meteorites.",  
Thanks for the laugh, Mark
 
 







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Re: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters

[Rosemary Hackney]

 I have always heard.. If you have to eat Crow...it is better  to eat it
while it is hot!
 
Rosie
 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crow eaters
 
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Hi Everyone,
 
What Al said...
 
-Walter
 
 
Hi, Everyone,
 
What Walter said...
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Swiss fall!!

[Rosemary Hackney]

 Julien
Awww.. is so sweet  ((hugs))
Congratulations you lucky person  :-)
 
Rosie
 
p.s. about that Misshof  ( lol )
 
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From: Guy Heinen
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2003 04:37:23 PM
To: Julien Courtois; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Swiss fall!!
 
Hello Julien,
with that composition, are you sure that it's you the happy father and not 
a comet?
My best congratulations for father and mother and 'gruezi' for Eloïse,
Guy Heinen
 
 
At 22:23 12/04/2003 +0200, Julien Courtois wrote:
>Hello all
>
>A wonderfull new fall arrived on earth today April 12th, 2003 08:37 local
>time
>
>Name: Eloïse (Emilie)
>TKW: 3.185 kg
>Composition: about 80% water, otherwise mostly complex carbon chemistry
>Temperature: almost constant 37°C
>Remark: IT'S A GIRL !!
>
>Sorry no trade or sale, we'll keep for us!
>
>Regards,
>
>Julien
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who Feels Generous in Tucson?

[Rosemary Hackney]

Thanks Howard..
 
I do Have KT boundary material.
 
Is This the museum I kept passing with the TREX painted on the side of the building. Was the land mark   I kept looking for when Mark got me lost..lol..
 
Rosie 
 
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From: Howard Wu
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2003 01:51:17 PM
To: Rosemary Hackney; Bob Martino; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who Feels Generous in Tucson?
 


I remember passing by this museum In Tucson but didn't have time to check it out. Maybe you can find som K-T boundry material. I've seen this inexpesively on ebay and elsewhere. This would more truely relate to T-rex. 
Howard Wu 
 Rosemary Hackney 
 Rosemary Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







 Hmmm.. Do the peeps have to  be in Tuscon?? Do the meteorites have to be from Arizona?
 
Rosie
 
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From: Bob Martino
Date: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:01:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Who Feels Generous in Tucson?
 
All,
 
This message is mostly for those on the list who live in or near Tucson.
 
The mineral company where I work is right next door to the T-Rex Museum on
North Main. It's privately owned and run. The owner has spent a lot of time
and many thousands of dollars on the exhibits and such. While it's still a
little cheesy, it's getting better by the day.
 
I thought that a dinosaur museum should probably have some exhibit on
meteorites and asteroids (I don't think I need to state the obvious
reasons). To that end I've donated a couple of small meteorites and a nice
(if I say so myself) set of 6 tektites from China showing all the basic
shapes (I picked these literally out of thousands). One of the meteorites is
a Canyon Diablo which was given to me by Jim Kriegh as a house warming gift
when my family moved here. I already had a CD specimen so I've been looking
for a good chance to pass it along to someone else who could appreciate it.
The other is a Gold Basin that I bought a few years ago. Twink Monrad gave
me another Gold Basin specimen that she personally found. While hers is
smaller than the one I had before, I'd rather keep hers for sentimental
reasons.
 
I'm wondering if anyone else would like to donate something to the T-Rex
Museum. Two small meteorites and some tektites don't make a big exhibit. I'm
thinking that they could use not only other meteorites but also related
things like shatter cones, good photos of craters, or something useful for
an asteroid exhibit.
 
Feel free to decline, of course. I just promised Sam the T-Rex Museum owner
that I'd ask. He's putting a lot of personal resources into it to better the
local community and I wanted to help out. My own resources are limited, but
someone else out there might like to contribute also.
 
Thanks.
 
 
-
Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
 
Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Good bye List

[Rosemary Hackney]

Walter..
I think my fav is Allende. I love the little white spots that look like
snowflakes on the deep black of space. I guess it is not a biggie... but I
love it.

Tell your daughter Happy Birthday from me.

Rosie
- Original Message -
From: "walter branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Good bye List


> Hi Tom, Steven, Ken, Mike, et al.,
>
> On second thought...
>
> Exactly.  Knowledge and enjoyment (fun)
> are what's important. Not what is sitting on
> your shelf or display case.
>
> At any given time my collection consists of maybe
> a dozen specimens (not including micromounts.
> I have numerous micros, most of which are ordinary
> chondrites.  I love ordinary chondrites).
>
> I get a new specimen, study it like crazy, then
> pass it on to someone else.  Got a bunch
> of them on ebay right now at cost or slighly higher
> (no, not meant to be a plug).  I also enjoy cutting
> some into micromounts
>
> Most people would be surprised to learn that my
> "permanent" non-micromount collection at this time
> consists of exactly six specimens, four of which
> cost me less than .50/gram.
>
> The other two, NWA 482 and Zagami, cost me slighly more
> per gram..
>
> ...okay, a lot more :-)
>
>  I am very proud of my collection.
> One of my favorites in my collection is a 15 gram piece of
> Sikhote-Alin shrapnel, a picture of which is on my site.
> http://www.branchmeteorites.com/gallerysikhote-alin15.96.html
>
> I paid $6.00 to Jim Strope March of last year for it. I am being
> honest when I tell you that, if I had to chose between
> that 15 gram shrapnel and 15 grams of Park Forest, I would chose
> the shrapnel.
>
> Tom, like you have a laughed over the things I have read over
> the past week or so, particularly the maneuverings among dealers.
> I got a small piece of Park Forest today in partial trade for some
> other stuff (like money, :-) but I am not sure
> if I will keep it.  There is so much other, less expensive
> material that interest me.  Maybe I will study it for a while then pass it
> on.
>
> Just collect what interests you and what you can afford.  Everyone's
> different.  Everyone has different wants, needs, resources, and
> capabilities.
>
> After all, it's just a hobby.  We had my daughter's 4th birthday party
today
> http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/bday.jpg
>
> There are obviously much more important things in life than meteorites.
>
> -Walter
>
> PS:  We had my daughter's party at a playground type
> place at the Savannah Mall, and in the back was a "Children's
> Museum" which consisted of a row of display cases containing
> fossils.  I correctly identifed what appeared to be a 7kg
> rusting Nantan in one of the cases.  I turned to my wife and
> said, "7 kg today...6.5 kg tomorrow."
>
> -
> www.branchmeteorites.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite list"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Good bye List
>
>
> >
> > Tom,
> >   Please stay on the list. You're not alone, I've been reading the posts
> > the past week and basically have been laughing at all the hub bub about
> > this new space rock. Not all of us can buy everything that comes along
> > and that's fine with me. I'll never have every space rock there is and
> > I'm fine with that. Just buy what you can (comfortably) from time to
> > time. I haven't bought a meteorite in quite a while now, the last was
> > April of last year, Bensour. Stick around, at least we learn stuff in
> > between the falls,deals,buys,etc., don't worry about buying...there will
> > ALWAYS be pleny of material to buy in the future.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tom Randall
> >
> > IMCA #6170
> >
> > On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 12:02, Tom aka James Knudson wrote:
> > > Hello, all you good people of the list.
> > >   I love this great hobby and all the people that are involved in it,
> you
> > > are some of the neatest people I have ever met, even if only by
emails.
> : )
> > >   But, at least for the time being, I am taking a break. If the
> economy
> > > ever picks back up, and therefore my line of work, I am sure I will
get
> back
> > > into it. Right now, it is just to depressing to be on the list, seeing
> all
> > > the recent witnessed falls and great deals that come along, and can't
> take
> > > advantage of them. I would like to thank all of you for your
generosity
> and
> > > helpfulness!
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] RE:Good bye List

[Rosemary Hackney]

((hugs)) Steven

Rosie
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> Tom and List,
>
> I for one don't want to see you go. I too have been a bit depressed by all
> the selling and so forth regarding the Park Forest meteorites and not
being
> able to get into middle of it. Watching the prices climb out of site was a
> downer for me as well.
>
>  Believe it or not--not all of us can put together $5,000, $12,000 or
for
> that matter, $500 to buy a piece of Park Forest. I live pretty much
paycheck
> to paycheck, and can set aside about $20-$30 per check after paying
> multitudes of medical and household bills.. After a year's time, I have
> enough for whatever I want to go crazy on. I admire meteorite dealers who
can
> put together transportation, hotels and fly in to buy. That's their
> bread-&-butter and their pros. I always wished them the best!
>
> But remember Tom, there are probably more of us who have to pinch pennies
> (until they scream), than there are the Robert Haags, and Mike Farmer's of
> this world. I don't want to take away anything from these persons who have
> been here in Illinois to purchase Park Forest, in the last week or so. For
it
> stands to reason, that sooner or later, good meteorite dealers such as
Farmer
> will have material for sale. The price will be what the market will
> bear.There's plenty it seems to go around. Additionally, with many good
> meteorite list people here finding material and making purchases, I'm
> confident the material will eventually get to market.
>
> Tom, you and I will just have to patient, save our pennies, and buy Park
> Forest at a later time.
>
> I live about 30 miles from the Park Forest, and unfortunately there were
so
> many unforseen problems which came in at the same time as the fall, I was
> unable to free myself up and go. After 48 hours it seemed to be a moot
point
> what with, the media and whomever, causing the prices to sky rocket. The
area
> isn't exactly a dry lake bed, so it stands to reason that more material
will
> eventually surface, (probably in the most unlikely places).
>
> So Tom, please reconsider. I'm privately cheering on the dealers (listed
in
> all the previous emails) who risked a lot to come here and acquire
specimens
> not only for the meteorite collector community, but for the scientific
> community as well. Just be patient Tom, our turn will come.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Steven L. Sachs   IMCA #9210
>
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[Rosemary Hackney]

Hang in there Tom...

We'll Raise up our glasses against evil Forces. Whiskey for my men...
Beer for my Horses..

Rosie


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Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Good bye List


> Hello, all you good people of the list.
>   I love this great hobby and all the people that are involved in it, you
> are some of the neatest people I have ever met, even if only by emails.
: )
>   But, at least for the time being, I am taking a break. If the
economy
> ever picks back up, and therefore my line of work, I am sure I will get
back
> into it. Right now, it is just to depressing to be on the list, seeing all
> the recent witnessed falls and great deals that come along, and can't take
> advantage of them. I would like to thank all of you for your generosity
and
> helpfulness!
>
> Thanks, Tom
> The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] wow.what did start!!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Yes Steve.. congratulations.

Your Fairy Godmother finally delivered your most fondest wish and you have
been the in the spotlight and  the center of attention you have always
craved.

Congratulations on your finds, I hope you can find more...but...as a distant
cousin of the  late Princess Di... I have to admit.. she never held court as
often as you do on this list.

I met Bob Haag at the same show you did. He is a nice man. He may have
missed out on this one, my dear, but.. I do not think this one will eclipse
all the work he has done in the past for the meteorite community.

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] wow.what did start!!


> Good morning list. Wow!What a storm I started.I know that eventually
> everyone
> all over.I have averaged 75 emails a day since last thursday> kind
meteorite people who have been so nice out there for giving me the
> kind words.But to me, in the meteorite things of life, I will always know
> > know for me the biggest kick of all is,WE SCOOPED THE METEORITE
MAN.Sorry
> bob, hope you are having a good time in new zealand.I can hardly wait to
> see his face.CHICAGO?Meteorites falling there?Yes dreams do come
> true.Happy huntings to all, and have a great day.What a ride it is has
> been so far.Wish you were here
>
>   steve arnold (the bearer of good
>   news), chicago usa
>
>
> =
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tektite looking objects found in Park Forest

[Rosemary Hackney]

ok.. tar... um.. where all this tar come from so suddenly on the ground?
Have always had a tin ( metal ) roof over my head, I do not understand how
tar gets off a roof and on the ground with such abundance, and in
formations. Sounds  a bit queer.but I guess it can happen.

Oh yes.. I have listed some items on ebay under JAC.. my user id is Jacinth2
as most of you know. And my cyber identity for years has been JacinthRose.
And many of my online chat friends refer to me as Jac or Jaci.  I hope this
causes no confusion.

Rosie


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To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:12 AM
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> Hi,
>
> If these are "tar-tites," they would have to have been present before
the
> meteorite impact, since the heat necessary to have produced the
"tar-tites"
> could not have been generated by the impact (else you'd have charred wood,
> etc.).
> Only the purest pitch or bitumen will show glass-like fracture
properties.
> Roofing tar is a mixture of expensive pitch with a great many cheap
hydrocarbon
> volatiles and can stay gooey for decades.
> As the owner of 7000 square feet of nineteenth century flat rooves who
has
> spent way too many hours mopping tar on a 120-degree roof, I doubt tar,
but
> Mike's right: the first test should be to try to melt one. A low heat is
all
> that's needed for tar (a butane lighter would do).
> Adam, let us know the results of a tar test?
>
> Sterling Webb
> -
> Michael Farmer wrote:
>
> > Adam,  I spoke with some people and they all tell me tar from roofing
does
> > that. I would suggest heating one to see what happens.
> > Mike
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] My Park Forest, IL Experience

[Rosemary Hackney]

Congratulations  Jason..
I am proud of you.  And 
jealous..lol.
Remember.. don't question.. just accept and be 
happy.
 
Rosie

  Subject: [meteorite-list] My Park Forest, 
  IL Experience
  
  Hello List,
  My wife and I just returned from Park Forest, IL 
  many small fragments for a total of ~15 grams and my wife won the prize 
  in our house with a 215 gram completely fusion (and dirt) crusted individual 
  that was in a small crater 

Re: [meteorite-list] Poor Art!!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Thanks Mike... you are a Champ.  :-)

Rosie
From: "Michael Farmer" Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Poor Art!!


> Ill make sure art gets  a piece. 
> Mike Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Will not be able to respond to emails

[Rosemary Hackney]

Dearest Adam and Greg...
 
I am so sorry for your loss. I understand how you 
feel..numb.. shock..anger. grief..loss.
 
I lost both my father and stepfather to cancer. 
Daddy died a bit at a time from complications of being an atomic veteran.  
For three years he was in and out of hospitals. I finished four years of 
college in three so he could see me graduate.. and he died just before 
graduation. I was devastated. I tried so hard.
Then my stepfather died form cancer that had gone 
into the bones. He kept going to doctors that told him was a  pinched 
 nerve.  Oh well.  Was hard to watch him slip away.  I was 
at work at the college and I had this strange, nagging feeling. I called 
home and Momma answered the phone. I asked how Bruce was doing. She said he was 
fine. Taking a nap on the couch. I asked... are you sure? I have a bad 
feeling. She said he had a nice day.. going to the doctor to talk about chemo 
and went to his favorite restaurant.. but he was tired.  I said.. ok.. but 
I had this nagging little voice that told me something was wrong.  She 
called back a few minutes later. He died on the couch in his sleep while she was 
on the phone..  ( sigh ).
 
Momma had a brain tumor later  , but was 
benign..But she had a stroke from complications , so is now in a wheel chair and 
my sibs and I look after her. She is beginning to walk now. Anyway.
 
I am just trying to tell you that I understand how 
hard it is to watch someone  that you love go a piece at a time. And I wish 
you God's blessings and support during this time of your loss. It is devastating 
to lose a parent. Not a day goes by that I do not think of my Dad. And I know 
you will miss her .
 
Take care my friends.. and if there is anything I 
can do to help.. please let me know.
 
Rosie
 

[meteorite-list] OT .. poem dedicated to Mark Bostick

[Rosemary Hackney]

The Rabbit in the Moon


Mark Bostick

The moon is old, or so I have been told

And entirely made of green cheese.

But the circles and bumps are not rat holes;

Instead are called mountains and seas.

I am told there is no water there too,

So how can these oceans be?

And if it is green, why do they say blue,

When it definitely looks gold to me?

And then they say there is a little man

Whose face adorns the surface.

But instead I see on the other hand

A rabbit with a basket of carrots.

Hoopity skipping with big, long ears

Carefully carrying his treasure.

Hopping along, having no fears

Doing a Snoopy dance in measure.

Then they say it is waxing or waning

Or crescent or full or new.

But I still see a bunny rabbit playing.

I guess it's one's point of view.



Rosemary Tipton Hackney 2001


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[meteorite-list] OT... poem . dedicated Dave Harris

[Rosemary Hackney]

Meteor Showers

Dave Harris


I saw the stars fall from the sky.

Perseid meteors falling in showers

Of flashes of green and yellow lights.

As if Perseus' giant hand was strewing flowers

Through the universe like rose petals at a wedding.

The galactic show diminished any fireworks display

That any mortal mind could envision or achieve.

Only a Master's hand could orchestrate such a play.

And in that brief period of streaking light

Racing across the night for its life

My thoughts turn to mankind's plight.

Life is a vapor; then the soul takes flight,

Streaking across the great unknown;

Burning brightly, then is gone.

Rosemary Tipton Hackney 2001


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Re: [meteorite-list] very strange chondrite

[Rosemary Hackney]

OHNO !! not  lil   Mem  

Rosie   
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> > From: "M Yousef" <

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Re: [meteorite-list] very strange chondrite

[Rosemary Hackney]

Chalcedony?   Calcium Carbonate formations?

Black, shiny rock with white stuff?

Why you keep jerking chains from Cairo??

What you wanna know ? ...am a plethera of useless information and
dissemination and an equal opportunity annoyer  :-)

 You never answered about Tanus ahk Horus..

Rosie
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>
> can anyone explain this:
> http://alifyaa.com/meteorite/ncnd/index.html
>
>
> Regards
> Mohamed H. Yousef
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Tom...

Is this desperation I hear?
ER what sort do you require for this breeding experiment.   .lmao..

Rosie
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Propagation


> Hello List, Because of the rather slow growth of my meteorite collection,
I
> am going to attempt something that has not been tried before, Meteorite
> Propagation.
>I am going to use the same techniques used to bring the
> Peregrine Falcon back from the brink of extinction. The captive breeding
of
> meteorites so far, has proved to be most challenging.
> Determining the sex of the meteorites seemed to be strait forward, The
> smaller cute specimens are the females. I have also determined that
> meteorite are cold blooded, so I adapted some reptilian breeding
techniques
> for this project as well. Commonsense tells me meteorites are going to be
> egg layers as apposed to giving live births.
>I have made 2' X 4' breeding chambers that should be big enough to
allow
> room for courtship displays. I have sand from NWA on the floor of the
> chambers to make them feel at home. I have used artificial lighting and
> temperature control so I can control the "seasons".
>   If Natural meteorite breeding does not happen I have made preparations
for
> artificial insemination. Semen collection attempts from the male
meteorites
> has not been achieved so far. (not from a lack of trying, I assure you!).
>   I have a "roll-X" incubator set up for artificial incubation if the
parent
> meteorites fail to incubate on their own.
>   I have placed two SA's, a cute 6.540g female and a 17.5g male in one of
> the chambers. So far the results look most promising! The male has been
> courting the female almost none stop for the last week! The female has
been
> most receptive! I have seen one failed attempt at breeding, but I think
they
> will get it right soon.
>   The first young produced are going to be retained for breeding. Using
> artificial insemination techniques, I am going to attempt making hybrids.
> After the first successful breeding I will be selling the young and any
> hybrids.
>   I am looking for quality breeding stock to be donated to the project. In
> return you will receive the first born from your meteorite (if
successful).
> I am taking requests for hybrid types. Put your orders in today
You
> do not want to miss out on owning one of the first captive bred
meteorites!
> Thanks, Tom
> The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] What is this pallasite

[Rosemary Hackney]

Maybe..looks kind of like the Quijingue I have.

Rosie
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:00 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] What is this pallasite


> Jim Strope wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have any ideas on
> > what this pallasite may be?
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/meteorite69/24.jpg
> 
> Quijingue? A pallasite from Brazil!
> 
> References:
> 
> 
> CARVALHO W. (1999) First Brazilian Pallasite
> (Meteorite!, Aug 1999, Vol. 5, No. 3, p. 6).
> 
> ZUCOLOTTO M.E. (2000) Quijingue, Bahia, the first
> Brazilian pallasite (MAPS 35-5, 2000, Suppl., A179)
> 
> 
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Subterranean Rumblings

[Rosemary Hackney]

Not to mention...subterranean drills that use lasers to vaporize rock to
connect military bases to each other by series of tunnels, so that
unimpaired rapid deployment can take place.

Rosie
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> Readers of the list may recall reports a couple of months ago from several
> towns in Florida and South Carolina of "earthquakes" and mysterious,
rolling
> ground waves.
>
> At the time, the US Air Force claimed that no craft had set off sonic
booms
> (often done during training over the Gulf of Mexico). No earthquakes were
> registered on seismometers. It was just something else for the X-Files.
>
> I felt three of these rolling quakes here in Fort Myers that approached,
> rumbled under the house rattling the windows, then passed on. Strange,
> powerful and unexplainable.
>
> This morning's "US Today" newspaper has an item, dateline Eglin Air Force
> Base (Florida) -
>
> "A new conventional bomb capable of releasing shock waves that can be felt
> miles away is scheduled to be tested at Eglin Air Force Base this week,
> officials said. The 21,000-pound bomb is known as a MOAB, or massive
> ordinance air burst. A bomb known as a "Daisy Cutter", the 15,000-pound
> BLU-82, is currently billed as the world's most powerful non-nuclear
> explosive."
>
> Nah, couldn't be thisour Homeowner's Association would never allow it.
>
> Shaken, not stirred,
>
> Kevin Kichinka
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] flow lines & fusion crust

[Rosemary Hackney]

Matteo.. Matteo.. Matteo.   He jerked your chain and you kicked..lol.

But iffn you ask me.. it looks like someone burnt the roasted marshmallow on
a sweet potato.

Rosie
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> Fusion crust and regmagliptes:
>
> http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2000/Meteor1.JPG
>
> opsssbut but is a piece of hematite.
>
> Lunar meteorite
>
> http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2000/meteor10.JPG
>
> opsssbut but is a fusion slag
>
> I ask to all of the list not to answer more to this
> individual that continues to send hundred of
> photograph - and also weighing to unload - thinking to
> have tons of rarest meteorites in house.  Mr. Yousef
> but because instead of to come to stress the life in
> this list you not show your meteorites to the yours so
> praised institutes where are analyzing your lunars
> meteorites?  Last email to you, the others i opens
> only for laugh of your " meteorites ". Remember you
> have to give to me $1000 of the pieces I send to you,
> give to me your address and I send. Payment via
> paypal.
> Regards
>
> Matteo
>
>
> --- M Yousef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dear All;
> > Please have a look at this new nice rock that have
> > clear flow lines and
> > crust:
> >
> > http://alifyaa.com/meteorite/fc1/index.html
> >
> > I appreciate any comments.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Mohamed H. Yousef
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Re: [meteorite-list] $1 Million Meteorite (Humor Alert)

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL we were in Tucson  at the IHOP one night talking about kilos of some
meteorite..Gibeon I think There was a cop listening   Mark was grinning.
As well as Jason.  I think they loved jerking the chain.

Rosie

Rosie
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> Tom aka James Knudson wrote:
>
> > I always feel like we are all dealing drugs!
> > You call your favorite dealer and ask for a
> > kilo of his best rock!  : )
>
> Oh yeah, and it all started ... it all started ...
> well, if interested in how it all started, please
> open your METEORITE magazine, Feb 2003,
> Vol. 9, Nr.1, on page 35. There you'll find
> the details of this drama
> :-) :-( :-) :-( ;-)
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Unfortunately...

[Rosemary Hackney]

If you build it, they will come If you ignore him.. he will go away. 

Rosie
> If we ALL never, I mean NEVER answered a few of his sickly boring 
> meteorwrongic bafooneries, he would probably become bored and depart 
> from a list that does not respond to him.  
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Re: [meteorite-list] blue glass

[Rosemary Hackney]

There is sea glass that is found in areas of volacnic action..like in
Hawaii. Can be blue green or other colors.

Rosie


> I want to let him down gently and would like to find out if there is a
> naturally occurring terrestrial blue glass.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Expeditions

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Michael.. in CAP we call that a grid search.  Hmm don't ask me about
PODs ( probability of detections).. But anyway..is most efficient way  to
locate downed aircraft.

Rosie
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> First, you need to develop a reliable GRID - a map of the area
that
> will allow you to THOROUGHLY cover one section of grid per search day.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest and Website

[Rosemary Hackney]

The Decision of the Judge is Final...

LOL.. The rap was cute..it was your contest and your choice. I was cutting
up with you Mark.  If I offended, I am sorry. They were all winners that I
saw.

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest and Website


>
> Hello Rick and List,
>
> I did award this contest on the factor of much effort by the winner.  I
was
> a fast food manager for like 7 years.  That was 7 long years of trying to
> teach teenagers to mop a floor multiple times and how to wipe off tables.
I
> have seen an overall lack of effort here in America, so this one time I
did
> award just for effort rather then say writing ability or scientific
> rambling.  It is strange when you go outside of this country and see the
> effort some people do to accomplish a little task that we take for
granted,
> like getting water or washing clothes.
>
> The ideal of this contest and the past was to give those a chance that
don't
> have much to add to our everyday chatter a chance to be involved in the
list
> and therefore create more of a community.  It is not to try to anger
people
> and if that is the case I will stop running them.  In the future I will
> limit all entries to one per a person. If anyone has any questions feel
free
> to ask.
>
>
> I would like to thank those that have sent me e-mails and those that
posted
> positive messages to the website.  There is one person who has continued
to
> abuse the guestbook so it looks like that will be removed shortly, I do
> consider that action as liable and would consider sueing if I thought the
> person had anything.  To that person, which most of you can probley guess
> who it is, you do understand that the website records your web address
> everytime you click on the site don't you?  There is always a bad apple in
> every bunch and you have no affect on me or mine so I will leave it be.
You
> have a choice in life to be a positive person or a negative.  Lets hope
that
> one day you choose to be a positive.
>
> I have also added several more newspaper articles in a way that should
make
> it easy to find a certain article you are looking for.
>
> Mark Bostick
>
> www.meteoritearticles.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Michael.. I think it was the rap song..  But personally.. I think I
should have  won ;- )*   ^hehe
Rosie   ~

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> Hay Mark,
> NO FAIR! We want you to site THE post that won it!
> Let's see it, dude!
> Best wishes, Michael
>
> on 2/26/03 12:06 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hello List,
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who entered the contest.  It was enjoyable reading
all
> > the entries.  With every contest there has to be a winner so without
giving
> > you one of those we all are winner like speeches...
> >
> > Winner of Meteorite Contest #? is Rand Kluge.  Rand is one who entered
three
> > entries including the RAP style one.  Please sned me your address Rand
and I
> > will get it right out to you.
> >
> > In other news somewhat related, I mentioned doing a presentation to a
class,
> > well now they want me to do a presentation in front of the whole school,
> > which has me a little nervous.  20-30 high school kids I can handle.a
few
> > hundred..we'll have to see.
> >
> > Thanks again, Mark Bostick
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Re: [meteorite-list] Slikensides ?

[Rosemary Hackney]

Rats Bill...

I didn't know that was what I was creating when I made those Chocolate chip
cookies last night.. Of course. I had to add nuts :-)

Used to go swimming at a place called Slick Rock. The water was swift in
that creek and br cold.  Was fed by an underground spring.

Can water cause slikensides too?

P.S. I mounted my Taza.. She is a beauty.. Thanks.

Rosie
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> Dear anybody interested in "Slickensides".
> Make your own: Take a 1/4 pound of COLD butter squeeze it like hell
> between your fingers. The resultamt squeeeze-out will look like
> slickensides.
> Do this in the morning: when you are stronger and then you'll have
fresh
> slickensides to butter your toast. Don't forget the marmalade.
> Bill Mason
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mark ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slikensides ?
>
>
> > Hi Tom and list
> >
> > Tom, slickensides (my books spell it differently than
> > European books) are a feature on a rock face left by
> > movement of rock against it. Sometimes its smooth,
> > sometimes not. Most commonly seen at sites of traverse
> > faulting where the rock on each side of a fault grind
> > against each other. Its a geological term of which I'm
> > sure you've seen too many already. A good book to have
> > at your side sometimes if a dictionary of geological
> > terms.
> > Hope this helps a little
> > Mark
> > --- Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello Good List, I now know how Slikensides came to
> > > be, thanks to all the
> > > experts that hang around this list! BUT, I still
> > > have not figured out what
> > > you are talking about? What is a Slikenside? Some
> > > one asked;
> > >
> > > > > > I am looking for information about SLIKENSIDE
> > > formation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does they come from a shock in the cosmos or
> > > do they form when landing
> > > on Earth ?
> > >
> > > But no one has said what they are!
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > The proudest member of the IMCA 6168- Original
> > > Message -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: John Divelbiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Bill Mason III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Michel
> > > Franco
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Meteorite List
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slikensides ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for this informative response. I have a
> > > nice chunk of Zag that
> > > has
> > > > one surface that looked like a slickenslide...but
> > > I've had doubts because
> > > it
> > > > looked smooth/polished, and I was thinking these
> > > subtle striations should
> > > be
> > > > grooves with edges. Not the case by your answer.
> > > >
> > > > If I can get a good picture of it this weekend,
> > > I'll send it to Jeff in
> > > > Australia and see if he'll put on his site. Thanks
> > > again for clarification
> > > > for all of us.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Bill Mason III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > "Meteorite List"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slikensides ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Michel,
> > > > > Perhaps I can give you an insight into just
> > > what "slickensides" are
> > > > all
> > > > > about. A slickenside is a fault surface or
> > > fault-plane which exhibits
> > > > > movement and dislocation,frequently
> > > warped,broken,and frequently offset.
> > > > > When you see a true slickensides it is polished
> > > because the sliding
> > > > surfaces
> > > > > are under great pressure as they move slowly,
> > > opposing surfaces are
> > > > polished
> > > > > and often striated grooved.
> > > > > If you are thinking of impact structure you
> > > will most likely find
> > > > > evidence of directional striations as in a
> > > dynamite exposition but you
> > > > will
> > > > > not see the polishing as evidenced in
> > > slickenside.
> > > > > Bill Mason
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "Michel Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Meteorite List"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:00 AM
> > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Slikensides ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear list
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for information about SLIKENSIDE
> > > formation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does they come from a shock in the cosmos or
> > > do they form w

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest, Free Gao-Guenie

[Rosemary Hackney]

Meteorites are coolbecause...you are holding a tiny piece of  another
part of the universe in your hands.  Something usually only God can do.

Rosie
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> Hello Everybody,
>
> I havent done a meteorite contest in a little while so, without further
> delay..
>
> Meteorite Contest #8?
>
> The prize in this contest is a free Gao Guenie, 13.4g with 95% black
crust.
> Smooth on all sides but one, almost an oriented shape.
>
> I am going to be doing a few school presentations here soon and the most
> comment thing I here from kids on meteorites is "Cool!".  So, with that in
> mind.
>
> The Winner of this contest will complete the following sentence.
>
> "Meteorites Are Cool Because."
>
> This is close to the African Meteorites are cool contest but different in
> the fact that it is more broad and therefore should have quite different
> answers.
>
> E-mail your answers to the list, no limit on how many words you use, the
> contest expires next Tuesday, all decisions final, and e-mail any
questions.
>
> Mark Bostick
> Wichita, Kansas
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Re: [meteorite-list] come and see rob e.

[Rosemary Hackney]

Dave.

Hmmm.. is he saying we are just jealous?

 I thought Rob was from Scotland. Is that considered Brit? Am confused..
Stepfather was a Bruce ( descendent of Robert the Bruce) .I don't think he
would agree.. But then..I am a descendent of the Plantagenants. ( Edward
Included).. I guess he would say so lmao.

Any whoI have 3 meteorites from Rob.  2 alike and 1 different. I think
the were like.. # 7  # 17 and # 27.  Ok.. duh. Have they been classified or
given names yet?   They languish in their little box until released from
quarantine.

Rosie

Rosie


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>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > It's only because the visiting Brits found far more Holbrook specimens
> > than the home team, when we all hit the strewnfield last October.
> > Tears and tantrums followedit wasn't a pretty sight! ;-)
>
> Whatever you've been smoking, please share some.  Please!   ;-)
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2003

[Rosemary Hackney]

h...Blake??   roflmao

Rosie


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> I too had a great experience with the Reid brothers. I had no idea there
> even WAS a Blake until I met him. They invited me out to dinner along with
> "Worf Martinez" and another gentleman whose name escapes me at the moment.
I
> haven't laughed so hard in years (that margarita bigger than my new
19-pound
> Campo helped a lot). Sadly, I could only stay for the start of the B-day
> party.
>
> Now all I want to know is this: When Blane and Blake go back to Colorado,
> who gets to grow the goatee and be the evil one?
>
> -
> Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
>
> Can you really name a star?  Read the Truth!
> http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> .
>
> > The Tucson show was awesome and so were all the neat people I met.  Mark
> and
> > Jason were super fun to hang with. Upon entering the Reid's room, there
> was
> > double trouble looking like mirror images sitting there..They even
bobbed
> > their heads in the same manner... Finally I figured that the funny one
was
> > Blake while the serious businessman was Blaine.
>
>
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[meteorite-list] Tucson 2003

[Rosemary Hackney]

HI all.

I have just returned home form Tucson. I had a blast.. Everyone was nice to
a newbie like me.  But.. I still haven't figured when I was introduced as
Rosie, why  everyone looked at me with this funny look.  No.. I don't have 2
heads..but I think they were expecting Carol Burnett.

The Tucson show was awesome and so were all the neat people I met.  Mark and
Jason were super fun to hang with. Upon entering the Reid's room, there was
double trouble looking like mirror images sitting there..They even bobbed
their heads in the same manner... Finally I figured that the funny one was
Blake while the serious businessman was Blaine.

Sylvia and Eric Hairider were fantastic. They had all kinds of neat crystals
and meteorites. Sylvia was very hospitable and cordial. I leaned towards the
gems and crystals. Jason and Mark loved the meteorites. Eric had an awesome
assortment. They were very kind and helpful. Eric was a hit at the auction,
with his little balance and his mad scientist antics.

The Birthday party was a hoot. Whoa Pardners.. was that Steve Arnold ( not
of Chicago ) and Greg Notkin? Who were those masked men?  And where did that
Klingon beam down from... Warf Martinez  Mare Meteorites?   Steve Arnold
of Chicago is looking for HonoluluSteve Arnold of Chicago bought
Honolulu at 100 a gram.  Steve Arnold of Chicago has Honolulu for sale at
200 a gram. Steve Arnold has Honolulu for trade.. let him know

John Gwilliam got me in trouble with Bob Holmes and Logger.  Hmm. Of
course..not hard for me to get into trouble.. is my middle name :-)  Greg
Hupe was a doll. I don't know who is taller... Greg or Steve from Chicago..
but Steve is 6'' 7".  And Greg didn't hold it too much against me when I
seemed to .. er.. have misplaced one of his pieces at the auction. Was only
a little piece. I mean.. he can just run up to the moon and get another
..can't he??? Well thanks  Greg for not drawing and quartering me.

Robert Haag had an awesome collection. He let me hold a piece of Tagish Lake
as big as a charcoal briquette. And he let me take a picture of him holding
the mommy of my baby Calcalong. And then.. there was this huge Zagami. and
..and... and... He gave me a book and he even signed it :-)  Of course.. I
got the impression that maybe he thought I was a sandwich short of a picnic.
Oh well.

Michael Blood had a neat auction and I tried to help.  I made some boo boos
but he was forgiving. He is really a neat person. I had to laugh my rear end
off though when he had Steve Arnold ( not from Chicago ) bidding against
himself for about ten bids. Every time Michael would point at him, Steve
sang like a bird. I think he outbid himself up to 50.00.  Then Eduardo
bailed him out.  Eduardo was a cutie and I just had to give him a big teddy
bear hug. He is really nice.

Bill Mason took pity upon me and my poor rusted Taza and I left it in his
care. The next day..not a trace of rust. He is a miracle worker for sure. He
has this kit that takes rust and also restores. If you need something like
that for your specimens.. you need to get in touch with him. I was amazed.
It was awesome.  Thanks Bill  ((hugs)).

Well I am sure I have missed many like Michael Farmer.. who was really nice
to me. And Steve Drummond and . The Nortons.
And Anne Black . Jim Stroupe.  Daryl Pitt.  Marvin Kilgore.  Thanks for
being so nice to me.

And a special Thanks to Mark Bostick who took me under his wing and
introduced  Jason and me to the meteorite world.

Those who did not make it.. you missed a very special time. Try to make it
next year if you can. There are wonderful, knowledgeable, friendly people
out there.

Rosie


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Over England

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmmm .. is it just me?  But does it seem to anyone else out there,that there
are an inordinate amount of these fireballs lately?  And an awful lot of
strange " sonic booms"?

I have a bad feeling about this

Rosie
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Re: [meteorite-list] Utah Bowled Over By Meteor Plan

[Rosemary Hackney]

Maybe they should ask my bro.  He has won several contests for flour bombing
:-D

Rosie
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites and mexican dinner...

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmm I thought Michael Blood was in 316. Or did I write down the wrong
number?

Rosie
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> Yep, I ate there yesterday. It is on Oracle and Drachman. Right beside the
> fossil coop.
> Mike Farmer
> The tents are all up and displays are being moved in. I plan to have my
room
> set up on the 31st of Jan. Open on the 1st, saturday. Anyone is welcome to
> come by at any time. I will have many meteorites on display, and many of
my
> personal collection pieces there. Also showing in room 316 of the Inn
Suites
> is Eric Olsen and Jim Strope.
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:13 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites and mexican dinner...
>
>
> > Dear List;
> > Anyone have the street address of  the La Fluenta and the birthday bash?
> > Just Mappy,
> > Dave F.
> >
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Request for help

[Rosemary Hackney]

Can someone Help Jon  with his addy change...message below ...  Thanks

Rosie
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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Request for help


> Hello Rosemary,
> 
> I had to drop from the Meteorite Central list due to my ISP mail filter 
> kicking back too many messages.  I sent the following subscription 
> request back in December, but still haven't gotten back on the list.
> I wnated to get the list mail at my other email address 
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:40:40 -0500
> From: "J FOX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: subscribe
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> I am changing email addresses.  I was subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks
> 
> _
> 
> Can I ask you to post this email to the list, and ask what the problem 
> may be?   Thank you for your assistance.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jon Fox
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Re: [meteorite-list] Atwater ice hole mystery - Pictures??

[Rosemary Hackney]

Where is this Lake? I have never heard of it?  But on the lakes around
here...they may be frozen around the edge but the middle be clear (
unfrozen ).Ducks and other waterfowl will tend to paddle in water to keep an
area open for drinking purposes. When they can no longer keep the area from
freezing, they fly somewhere else to get water.

Rosie
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From: "Bjørn Sørheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ron Baalke"
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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Atwater ice hole mystery - Pictures??


> At 14:42 18.01.03 -0800, you wrote:
> >> Added to that, exactly 1 year later +~1 day, The Tagish Lake
> >> meteorite exploded over northern Canada.
> >
> >Note, too, that none of the Tagish Lake meteorite fragments punctured any
> >holes through the ice when it landed on the frozen lake.
>
> Yes, the Tagish Lake CI1 is a quite fragile carbonaceous chondrite.
> Specific weight ~1.5 g/cm^3. I am not shure it could punch a
> hole through ice, even though ice is 0.9 g/cm^3.
> Although a CI1 coming down probably is frozen inside, weren't that
> the reason theTagish Lake find was so important, it had not been
> contaminated by earthly substances..?
> And Tagish Lake in NW Canada probably also had thicker ice?
>
> But, on the other hand, considering the Pribram/Glanerbrug/Neuschwanstein
> relationship, they are seemingly, by an orbital similarity criterion,
believed
> to have identical orbits in space.
> And yet Pribram is H5, Glanerbrug LL6, Neuschwanstein E6 (enstatite).
> So it sems now quite possible that an object trailing 1 year behind in the
> orbit could have a fairly different composition.
>
> I'm not concluding a meteorite fell into Tadd Lake, I'm just pointing
> to these dates and other meteor observation at this time in January.
>
> Also I think that a melting hole from melting water or moving water is the
more
> unlikely explanation (the lake is just some hundred(s) meter in size).
> Maybe lightning, sudden influx of warm water from the built-up area?,
> - and a meteorite is not ruled out it seems.
>
> Jarmo, the hole was 2-4 feet wide...
>
>
> Regards,
> Bjørn Sørheim
>
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[meteorite-list] Nevada Meteorites

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmm.. I was talking to Mark Bostick about Nevada meteorites.  I do not think
I have ever seen one for sale. Have any ever been found in Nevada?  I have
many from Kansas and Texas and Colorado and New Mexico and Arizona. But ..
have never seen one that was listed from Nevada.  Are there any?

Thanks...

Rosie


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Re: [meteorite-list] Appropriate terminology?

[Rosemary Hackney]

I always thought that if it was in space it was called a meteoroid. When it
hit the atmosphere , it was called a meteor. When it hit the ground, it was
called a meteorite.

Rosie
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Appropriate terminology?


> Frank, etc.,
>
> Nope.  You didn't understand all of what I said.  The first part is
> right:  we don't care if there was a meteor or whether the body doing the
> accreting had no atmosphere.  Once the impactor survives landing, it
> becomes a meteorite.  If it becomes incorporated into a rock as a
xenolith,
> it is still a meteorite (e.g., Brunflo and the Osterplana "fossil"
> meteorites found in earth rocks, and).  BUT, if the rock containing the
> clast itself becomes a meteorite by being ejected from its parent body and
> landing somewhere else, then the clast is no longer a meteorite... it's
> just a clast in a meteorite.
>
> We had to adopt this complex rule because otherwise we'd have to give a
> meteorite name to every asteroidal xenolith found in an asteroidal
meteorite.
>
> The second part of your question should have been phrased:
>
> "On another note, I was wondering what, if any, differences might be
expected
> in the fusion crusts on meteorites found on Mars as compared to meteorites
> found on Earth?" (remember, the former are NOT martian meteorites).  My
> answer is, I don't know.
>
> jeff
>
> At 04:32 PM 1/15/2003, you wrote:
> >Hi Jeff and all,
> >
> >In other words, if I correctly understand this, on another moon, asteroid
or
> >airless planet, the part of a meteoroid that survives impact on another
body
> >becomes a meteorite without an intervening "meteor" stage; (unless of
> >course, it may have previously grazed an atmosphere ala the Gran Teton
> >fireball of the 1960's).  And once it becomes a lithified part of the
> >impacted body, it becomes only a "xenolithic" clast. Easy to understand
;-)
> >
> >On another note, I was wondering what, if any, differences might be
expected
> >in the fusion crusts on Martian meteorites (those found on Mars) as
compared
> >to meteorites found on Earth? Any one have any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:28 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Appropriate terminology?
> >
> >
> > > Alan Rubin and I advocated calling all of these things "meteorites" no
> > > matter what body they were found on. Our definition was as follows,
> >quoting
> > > from the article:
> > >
> > > "A meteorite is a natural solid object that was transported by natural
> > > means from the body on which it formed to a region outside the
dominant
> > > gravitational influence of that body and was later accreted by a
natural
> > > body larger than itself."
> > >
> > > Our exception to this rule is: "Meteorites accreting to a body lose
their
> > > status as individual meteorites if the rocks into which they are
> > > incorporated subsequently become meteorites themselves."
> > >
> > > This means that a CM clast in an H chondrite that fell in Africa is
not
> > > itself a meteorite...  only the H chondrite is.  Hadley Rille and
Bench
> > > Crater ARE meteorites; however, had they been found as clasts in lunar
> > > meteorites, they would not be meteorites, and would not be given their
own
> > > names by the nomenclature committee.  Everybody follow this?  I
thought
> >not.
> > >
> > > All of these statements are the opinion of just Alan and myself.
There
> >are
> > > no widely accepted definitions of "meteorite."  But since nobody else
has
> > > ever tried to define the word like we did, I guess we get the last
word
> >for
> > > now.
> > >
> > > -jeff
> > >
>
> Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman   phone: (703) 648-6184
> US Geological Survey  fax:   (703) 648-6383
> 954 National Center
> Reston, VA 20192, USA
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] history of calcalong creek lunar

[Rosemary Hackney]

Well Steve.. the best I remember.. Robert Haag 
found it in Australia near Calcalong Creek as he was collecting 
Murchison.   I think was Murchison). Anyway this one was different and 
he had it analyzed. Voila  calcalong.  One of my very favorites pieces 
because someone special thought of me. :-)
 
Rosie
 
 
 

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  ARNOLD 
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:29 
  AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] history of 
  calcalong creek lunar
  
  GREAT morning to all on the list. I have a question. What is the history 
  and TKW of this mysterious lunar piece? Just for my knowledge! Thanks all.
     
  steve
  Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107
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Re: [meteorite-list] lessons learned at G.B.

[Rosemary Hackney]

I wish I had been able to come.. Thanks Tom for the 
efforts too. I had been besieged with a week of an intestinal virus and me and 
the Porcelain bowl become steadfast friends. As well as a Lawyer appt came 
up.
Anyway. I am planning on making it to Tucson. I 
hope I see you guys there. Maybe AzKeith can get something going. I hope 
so.
Hope to see you guys there.. And Thanks JP for the 
info on where you were staying. Sorry I missed you.
 
Anyone have an idea on where to stay in Tucson. I 
know nothing about the place. never been there that I recall.
 
Rosie
 

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  Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:31 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] lessons 
  learned at G.B.
  In a message dated 1/12/2003 4:34:54 
  PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  Hello List, Our G.B. hunt ended 
today. We all learned a little something about how to find the now rare 
meteorite. If you all want to find gold basin meteorites, do what I am 
going to do on my nest G.B. hunt, search E-Bay! It is a lot cheaper and 
you should have better luck finding one.: ) We all had a lot of fun, 
exercise but no meteorites, oh well maybe next time!Thanks, 
TomThe proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168Tom:Thanks for the invite and getting 
  the hunt put together.  Although I came home empty handed, I'm glad I 
  made the 900 mile trip from Colorado - and had a great time.On the way 
  home I took at look at Holbrook.  The ground was still a bit soggy in 
  places, but there too - no luck.  At least I have found that one from an 
  earlier hunt!  ;)Juris Breikss[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  

Re: [meteorite-list] marjalahti pallasite..... yada yada yada

[Rosemary Hackney]

Elton... neither do I understand.. I do not know how " rare" is defined.
They are all rare to me... shrugs.

Sometimes ... my suspicious feminine nature takes over.. and then I think
strange ideas...but.. it seems to me...it is a way of flaunting a new
acquisition without coming out and saying.." I have this and you don't...
neener neener."
I have friends in high paces.. and you don't". or.. " Am I   stud or what?"

Just crazy Rosie ramblings as I said..  sheesh maybe he really means to
trade. But when I tried... it never worked out.

Rosie
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> Would you;
> 1) define "rare"  or are you fishing?


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Re: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!

[Rosemary Hackney]

James  .. Paul.. I am so sorry this has happened...Everyone loved the
magazine as far as I could tell. and a lot of hard work went into it. I know
you are depressed and upset.

Reminds me of another time in my past.. er.. History.  I was working on the
Group Newsletter in Civil Air Patrol. As most of you have seen my typing on
a keyboard.. imagine the typing back then 15 - 20 years ago.without spell
check... anywho..
I had spent a lot of time  ..digging up info and writing.. typing ( ohno )
and printing and sent it out. Feeling a since of pride of accomplishment. No
one helped me, or even offered to help.

What did I get for my efforts?

Complaints.

You should have done this.  You should have written that.  You should have
gotten some advertising to raise money.  Was nothing right in the eyes of a
certain individual I called  "friend".

So.. I said.. fine.. sounded like he knew what he was doing and since he
could do so much better that my poor failed attempt to get communications
going.. I told him he could put out the next issue.. because I sure wasn't
wasting my time again.  Well has been nearly 20 years now.. still waiting.

I know it hurts. And you are disappointed and feel like you have wasted time
you could have spent on other things more enjoyable to you. Life is short..
too short for investing in losing propositions.

But I think that  most people enjoyed the product. And it was educational
and fun.
I hope you can get over the frustration and see to move forward.  If certain
individuals are too testosterone laden to be civil, perhaps you might ask
other individuals to submit articles.

 It sounds like was a mistake in judgment on someone's part.. Perhaps on
further perusal of conscience, the individuals will repent and apologize .

Rosie


Subject: [meteorite-list] Another mag bites the dust!


>
> Dear List,
> After a brief conversation with Paul it was agreed that we would pull the
> MeteoriteTimes magazine down off the web and pick up our toys and go home.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Trade Riker Mounts for Meteorites

[Rosemary Hackney]

what kind of meteorites do you want?

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Trade Riker Mounts for Meteorites


> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have 6, 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 x 3/4 inch Riker mount display cases which I don't
> need.
> If anyone can use them, I would like to trade all 6 (preferably as a set)
> for meteorite(s).
> I will consider selling them for cheap if no one wants to trade.
>
> Here is a picture of one:
>
> http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/riker.jpg
>
> -Walter
>
> 
> Walter Branch, Ph.D.
> 322 Stephenson Save., Suite B
> Savannah, GA  31405
> www.branchmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin hunt!!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Where is everyone staying in Kingman?

Rosie
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Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:17 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin hunt!!


> Hello List members! Our  Gold Basin group hunt on the 11th &12th is just
> next weekend! We can meet at 9 AM at the corner of pierce ferry RD and
> Greg's hideout RD. If you are staying in kingman we can meet in kingman at
> 7:30 or 8:00 and drive out there together. Every one is invited!
>
> Thanks, Tom
> The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168
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Re: [meteorite-list] Test - Delete

[Rosemary Hackney]

Mark,

On my outlook.. plain text is found under format along with html. Mine wa
sset for html and I did not know, so I set it to plain text. But sometimes
it goes back and I have to check it.

Outlook does not give me the KB of a message like I get on my hotmail
accounts.. so.. I did not know I was taking up a lot of space.  Sorry.

Anyway.. that is how I changed it on outlook. I do not know how to change it
on the other accounts.

Rosie



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Re: [meteorite-list] hedeja/kilabo

[Rosemary Hackney]

OK.. I see one called Plain text.. Is this what you meant? I have switched
to it.  Does this save bandwidth?
Rosie


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Re: [meteorite-list] hedeja/kilabo

[Rosemary Hackney]

Thank you Bernd

I do not understand tho.It is what I have always used.. I do not know what
it is.. But how do I change it? What is a simpler text format?
Rosie
- Original Message -
From: "Bernd Pauli HD" <> First of all let me remind you of the Admin's
recent words
> to only use simple text format posts to save bandwidth. If
> you had chosen a simple text format, your mail would have
> "swallowed" 2KB instead of 8KB. No hard feelings but just
> a reminder! :-)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction - 14 more items (ad)

[Rosemary Hackney]

Where are these listed Michael.. I have  11g NWA 989..but..no cat
mountain..Is it expensive? I guess so.. I thought Steve Arnold had it all...
oh well..

Rosie
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:24 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction - 14 more items (ad)


> Hi all,
> Yesterday I put up 5 new pieces and just now finished putting up
> 9 more - all are really cool (I WANT most of this stuff for my own
> collection!) - but you GOTTA check out NWA 989 (CV3)! It is SO cool -
> but so is the Cat Mountain and Itqity and the unnamed LL3.1 and.
>
>
>
> Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.
>   - Friedrich Nietzsche
> --
> Worth Seeing:
> -  Earth at night from satelite:
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
> - Interactive Lady Liberty:
> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
> - Earth - variety of choices:
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
> --
> Cool Calendar & Clock:
>   http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
> --
> Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:
> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Off subject... List member crossing the threshold!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Congratulations Norbert.

I wish you and your bride a long life and much happiness together. Be
patient..it will take a year before you begin to understand her. and her
you... LOL.

Good Luck always...

P.S. He would probably rather you throw meteorites instead of rice

Rosie
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Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Off subject... List member crossing the threshold!


>   I`ve heard from a very reliable source that List
> Member and IMCA Member Norbert Classen will be
> crossing the threshold on Saturday, January 4th.!
> Let`s all send a congratulations to him and his new
> bride, but please no rice throwing!!! Congratulations
> and good luck to the new Mr. and Mrs. Norbert
> Classen!!!
>  Dave Schultz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hadejia Thin Section

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hey Bernd... I am glad you are so excited :-). It sounds beautiful.  Today I
received my Henbury from Australia.  Was from Michael Farmer.  I love it. I
had a couple of smaller ones , but I am just a thrilled with this simple
little iron as you are with yours. :-).
Would like to ask tho... Is it common for all the Henburys to be red? Is it
iron content that is rusted..or is it something else?  It is agoult I think
is reddish too. But maybe I am wrong on that one.

Rosie

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Hadejia Thin Section
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> My Hadejia thin section arrived today.


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Re: [meteorite-list] hedeja/kilabo

[Rosemary Hackney]

I am totally confusedhedeja/kilabo 
??
I guess it has not been officially 
named.
But what confuses me anymore is 
this
Steve seems to get many rare and large meteorites 
and then it seems to me.. he waves it under everyone's noses. like it 
was some rare trophy that no one else has.Why?
Is this the man, not too long ago, saying he was 
having trouble with funeral bills... or was this the other Steve Arnold? I am 
totally confused now.
 
I am overwhelmed with this attitude of...the 
greatest meteorite collector since Nininger..or to me it seemsperhaps I am 
wrong. and perhaps I am out of line.  But seems to me that too much 
testosterone is being released. It is almost like a challenge.  Or am I the 
only one who feels this? But I feel like my masculinity is on the line and 
heck... I am female.
 
Confused.
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  STEVE 
  ARNOLD 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:21 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] 
  hedeja/kilabo
  I just picked up my 61 gram individual piece of hedeja/kilabo! 
  It is a nice meteorite.
  Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107
  The midwest meteorite collector!
  I.M.C.A. member #6728
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Re: [meteorite-list] rare macros

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Matteo... I do not understand.

Rosie
- Original Message -
From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rosemary Hackney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dave Mouat"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "STEVE ARNOLD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] rare macros


> mah....misterya macro of Nogata?  Mah,...
> Regards
>
> Matteo
>
> --- Rosemary Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Was wondering.. just what is considered a macro?  Is
> > it a certain gram size.. or is it a fraction of
> > TKW.. or ..is it just a big piece?
> >
> > Rosie
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Dave Mouat
> >   To: Michael Farmer
> >   Cc: STEVE ARNOLD ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:55 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] rare macros
> >
> >
> >   Hi Mike
> >   Happy New Year
> >   Your comment was exactly what I was thinking
> >   Dave
> >   Michael Farmer wrote:
> >
> > Steve, I have hundreds of them, most on my
> > website. All other websites have them too.Mike
> > Farmer
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: STEVE ARNOLD
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:19 PM
> >   Subject: [meteorite-list] rare macros
> >Does anyone have any rare macro meteorites?
> >
> >   Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107
> >
> >   The midwest meteorite collector!
> >
> >   I.M.C.A. member #6728
> >
> >   Website url
> > http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] rare macros

[Rosemary Hackney]

Was wondering.. just what is considered a 
macro?  Is it a certain gram size.. or is it a fraction of TKW.. or ..is it 
just a big piece?
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Mouat 
  To: Michael Farmer 
  Cc: STEVE ARNOLD ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] rare 
  macros
  Hi Mike Happy New Year Your comment was exactly what I 
  was thinking Dave 
  Michael Farmer wrote: 
  

Steve, I have hundreds of them, most on my 
website. All other websites have them too.Mike Farmer 

  - Original Message -
  From: 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 
  2:19 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] rare 
  macros Does anyone have any rare macro meteorites?   
  Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107 
  The midwest meteorite collector! 
  I.M.C.A. member #6728 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin group hunt?

[Rosemary Hackney]

utoh.. Tom.. ya mean it is bring your own toilet paper???
Gonna try to make it.. but do not know as of yet.

Rosie

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gold Basin group hunt?


> Hello List, Would any one going to the G.B group hunt on Jan 11th and 12th
> please let me know your plans, ie, coming in friday night or driving in
> saturday morning to help figure out a good meeting time. We don't want to
> leave any one who might be running a few minutes late, behind. : ) For the
> benifit of the people who have never been to G.B. before, it might be a
good
> idea to meet at the corner of Gregs hide out Rd. and Pierce ferry rd.
> And for those who have not been out there before, the only bathrooms have
> thorns or leaves and there's no Mc Donalds either! : )
>
> Thanks, Tom
> The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Just curious

[Rosemary Hackney]

Thanks Bernd  ((huggers))

Rosie
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From: "Bernd Pauli HD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rosemary Hackney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "wrecks463"
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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Just curious


> Rosemary Hackney wrote:
>
> > I have Bencubbin
>
> > Weatherford
>
> > HaH 237...
>
> > what is the classification now?
>
> Hello Rosie and List,
>
> Bencubbin = CB3a
> Weatherford = CB3a
> HaH 237 = CB3b
>
> The capital "B" stands for "Bencubbinite",
> The "C" denotes "Carbonaceous"
>
> For more details, please see David
> Weir's excellent website at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dgweir/
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Just curious

[Rosemary Hackney]

ok.. I have Bencubbin.. Weatherford. and HaH 237... what is the
classification now?  I thought they were Bencubbinites

Rosie
- Original Message -
From: "Bernd Pauli HD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "wrecks463" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Just curious


> Rex wondered:
>
> > The Cambridge EOM says that this is a meso-
> > siderite while this guy on ebay says it is
> > a metal-rich carbonaceous chondrite?
>
> Michael Farmer responded:
>
> > It is a Bencubbinite, VERY rare carbonaceous metal-rich
> > chondrite. Unlike any other meteorite, small balls of metal.
>
> Rex, which part/page/chapter of the CEM are you referring to?
> On page 159, Fig.8.19, O.R. Norton says that Bencubbin, not
> Gujba (!), is a mesosiderite from Western Australia, but he
> also cautions: "This anomalous meteorite may be a new class
> of mesosiderite". The first descriptions of Gujba in 1988 also
> classified it as a mesosiderite [ISLAM M.R., OSTAFICZUK S.
> (1988) The Gujba mesosiderite: its petrology, mineralogy and
> impact (Annals of Borno 5, 110-124)] but in 2001, Bencubbin,
> Gujba, HaH 237, QUE 94411, QUE 94627 and Weatherford were
> assigned a new, separate group:
>
> WEISBERG M.K. et al. (2001) A new metal-rich chondrite
> grouplet - CB chondrites (MAPS 36-3, 2001, pp. 401-418).
>
> Best regards and
> a Happy New Year
> to All of Us,
>
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Just curious

[Rosemary Hackney]

Hmm I have some Bencubbins and another one.. I 
forget the name.. but is a metal blob from one.  I do not know the one on 
Ebay.
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Farmer 
  To: wrecks463 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Just 
  curious
  
  It is a Bencubbinite, VERY rare carbonaceous 
  metal-rich chondrite. 
  Unlike any other meteorite, small balls of metal. 
  
  Mike Farmer
  
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From: 
wrecks463 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:39 
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Just 
curious

Hello People,
   I was just surfing through ebay 
and noticed a "Gujba" (bencubbinte). The Cambridge EOM says that this is a 
Mesosiderite while this guy on ebay says it is a metal-rich carbonaceous chondrite? Can anyone 
enlighten me any further on this?
 
    
Just wondering,
  
Rex

Re: [meteorite-list] Re-Asteroid?

[Rosemary Hackney]

There are planes that fly at an extremely fast pace.. The SR71  crossed the
US in about an hour.. best I remember.. Now that is booking. There are
faster craft now. By the time it caused the shadow it was gone perhaps.
Also there are colorations to camouflage aircraft so that they cannot be
seen from the ground.. i.e. blue / white paint on the bottom..so they blend
into the background of the sky..but the shadow could have been cast.  Also
there are those craft they fly in stealth mode.. You will not hear them.

As I have been chastised before for an opinion.. I have seen strange things.
But others have been with me  on those occasions too. I do not think you are
nuts.

Rosie
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Re: [meteorite-list] way to go. without telling me. just doing it!

[Rosemary Hackney]

Steve??
 
Your message is posted. So, has it been cancelled 
or just a mistake?
 
Happy Holidays to all and have a prosperous New 
Year.
 
Rosie

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  STEVE 
  ARNOLD 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:23 
  AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] way to go. 
  without telling me. just doing it!
  
  Well it is nice to know, that my membership in the IMCA was cancelled 
  WITHOUT  telling me. How low can you go??? It would have been nice if 
  someone had TOLD me. What did I do that was so bad? Would someone in authority 
  to this group please explain to me what I did that was so bad to expel me. 
  Some HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
   
  STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO, IMCA 6728!
  Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107
  The midwest meteorite collector!
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Meteor-doubtful I Fell For

[Rosemary Hackney]

LOL Rob   I tried to go to the site but it was forbidden.. verboten

But if you want some more slag.. Matteo and I have plenty:-)

Rosie
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Wesel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "N Lehrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom aka james Knudson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:19 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The Meteor-doubtful I Fell For


> Hello all-
> Speaking of greenhorns, here is one I bought when I was new to the
> obsession. Still in my collection and NOT FOR SALE!:
>
> Slag
>
>
>
> Found Williamsport, Pennsylvania
>
>
>
> Here's a little lesson from the School of Hard Knocks. A while back I came
> across an internet auction that stated the following:
>
>
>
> Here is a an item I purchased from an Estate Sale auction which was
wrapped
> in plastic with the note in the picture...
>
> It is a Meteorite that fell through the Steel Roof of the Carey McFall's
> Christmas Tree Factory in Williamsport PA.
>
> The paper tells the story..."
>
>
>
>
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/27e2423e/bc/My+Photos/Untitled-1+copy.jpg?bcj
> ZXA.APScdDOAE
>
>
>
> I am not sure what the year was, but I don't believe the Factory is around
> any longer
>
> A little investigation could narrow down the year
>
>
>
> A magnetic stone, an eyewitness testimony, an incredible chance to lock on
> to a potentially important meteorite. So I took a chance and won the
auction
> for $106, much more than I would usually pay for an unknown. A few days
> later it arrived. The first thing I did was a quick magnet test,
> unbelievably magnetic. The exterior was reminiscent of Gold Basin which
> seemed odd for a proposed fresh fall so I knew I had to cut it. The new
> diamond blade on my saw cut through this with ease, sparks flying the
whole
> time. Then I got a look inside. There was some fresh metal to be seen but
> the matrix was way too spongy. At this point I'm hoping for a miracle so I
> post my images on the web and ask the meteorite e-group to give any
> feedback. The consensus was that it was furnace slag but the testimony of
> the security guard was enough to cast a tiny shadow of a doubt and I was
> encouraged to send it off to UCLA for a final word from Al Rubin, the Yoda
> of meteorites. I did so and the analysis confirmed it was slag. So what
> about the security guard's testimony? I have a theory. He was playing
around
> on duty, you know, twirling his gun like Clint when he accidentally fired
it
> into the air putting a hole in the roof. Fearing his job, he crossed the
> street to the steel foundry (we are in Pennsylvania after all) and came up
> with this cosmic lie. He died with this on his conscience and I now know
his
> dirty little secret.and so do you
>
>
>
> A photo of the piece:
>
>
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/27e2423e/bc/My+Photos/McFalls+copy.jpg?bcjZXA
> .AmE7Vf7US
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "N Lehrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tom aka james Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor-doubtful
>
>
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Don't be so astonished.  We're all variously involved with a field of
> > interest that breeds and thrives on wild goose chases and tall tales,
> albeit
> > the "meter" or "astiroid" usually went down just behind the barn rather
> than
> > in it.  No matter how jaded or seasoned we are, all of us sit up and pay
> > attention when some old timer starts to spin a yarn like this at the
other
> > end of the bar.  We get to be cynics and skeptics, but the dream never
> dies.
> > One of these tales will come good.  Most of us are game to gamble some
of
> > our time checking these stories.  A few, perhaps the naive greenhorns
> > amongst us, still gamble some money, but either way we're buying
> > entertainment and fanning our fantasies.  I always figured a great tale
> > followed by a wild goose chase was worth something!  This is where
> grandpas
> > and grandmas get stories to tell the grandkids.
> >
> > The first law of serendipity is that in order to find anything you have
to
> > be looking for something.
> >
> > May we all have a backlog of exploded barns, big holes, and hot rocks to
> > pursue!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom aka james Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor-doubtful
> >
> >
> > > I bet this people, seller and bidders are in this together for some
> > reason?
> > > Maybe to get others to bid onit or some kind of scam!
> > >
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Michael Masse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Matson, Robert"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor-doubtful
> > > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:35:33 -08

Re: [meteorite-list] test, is the list working

[Rosemary Hackney]

Seems so Tom. just a little slow I guess.. Peeps out shopping maybe.

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom aka james Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] test, is the list working


> Just a test to  see if the list is working. HELLO
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