Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
OK, I worked for Duke Energy for several years, and now work for the city. My father retired after 28 years with Duke Energy as a lineman supervisor and I can tell you NOT ONCE have I ever or did I ever see anyone using clothes hangers to locate thousands and thousands of dollars of buried cable. They ALWAYS preferred 99.% accurate electronics made specifically to locate cables and utility lines, not to mention the liability involved in a "chance" encounter with someone's million dollar fiber-optic cable with the potential to cause millions of dollars damage if cut!! Dowsing/divining is BS!!! -- From: "Michael Murray" Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:59 PM To: "mlangen" Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question I'm somewhat surprised that the Met-List doesn't have at least one or two other folks on it that work or have worked in one of the utility businesses dealing with underground utilities or for that matter someone in the landscaping business. If they are on the List, they are sure being kind of quiet. What ever name you want to put on using the rods, divining, dowsing, who cares, they are used quite a bit in both types of businesses. I have even seen municipal workers using them to locate their own stuff underground. Wow, imagine that, sure a lot of good folks out there using bullshit to maintain your underground utilities. Someone aught to clue 'em in, eh? Just be prepared anyone doing the cluing, you might want to back up a bit when you tell them that their efforts to keep from hitting your power, water, sewer or whatever prior to excavation is nothing more than bullshit. IMHO Mike in CO On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, mlangen wrote: I would like to pose the following, non-scientific question: If dowsing actually works, as claimed by some, why then can I not find a entry for dowsing services in the Yellow Pages? > Just sayin' David R. Vann Without weighing in one way or the other on the merits: You would be astounded by the number of well drillers (who ARE listed in the Yellow Pages) who carry a set of dowsing rods in their trucks. Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
Really not much to do with meteoritics but for those interested TAM (The Amazing Meeting) 8 will be held in Vegas on July 8-10 at the South Point Hotel and Casino. Richard Dawkins, James Randi, Phil Plait , Michael Shermer, Paul Kurtz ,Adam Savage and many more will be in attendance. This should be one of the best yet. Go to http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/amazing-meeting/880-the-amazing-meeting-8-2010.html for more info. Unfortunately I can't make this one. Respectfully Orrin La Rue Retired Science Teacher and Skeptic On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Thomas wrote: > > > I am led to conclude that meteorites are much like UFO's. They attract some > fascinating characters : ) > > Thomas M > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
I am led to conclude that meteorites are much like UFO's. They attract some fascinating characters : ) Thomas M __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
I'm somewhat surprised that the Met-List doesn't have at least one or two other folks on it that work or have worked in one of the utility businesses dealing with underground utilities or for that matter someone in the landscaping business. If they are on the List, they are sure being kind of quiet. What ever name you want to put on using the rods, divining, dowsing, who cares, they are used quite a bit in both types of businesses. I have even seen municipal workers using them to locate their own stuff underground. Wow, imagine that, sure a lot of good folks out there using bullshit to maintain your underground utilities. Someone aught to clue 'em in, eh? Just be prepared anyone doing the cluing, you might want to back up a bit when you tell them that their efforts to keep from hitting your power, water, sewer or whatever prior to excavation is nothing more than bullshit. IMHO Mike in CO On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, mlangen wrote: I would like to pose the following, non-scientific question: If dowsing actually works, as claimed by some, why then can I not find a entry for dowsing services in the Yellow Pages? > Just sayin' David R. Vann Without weighing in one way or the other on the merits: You would be astounded by the number of well drillers (who ARE listed in the Yellow Pages) who carry a set of dowsing rods in their trucks. Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
I would like to pose the following, non-scientific question: If dowsing actually works, as claimed by some, why then can I not find a entry for dowsing services in the Yellow Pages? > Just sayin' David R. Vann Without weighing in one way or the other on the merits: You would be astounded by the number of well drillers (who ARE listed in the Yellow Pages) who carry a set of dowsing rods in their trucks. Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
Well said that man. I recall a few years ago when BIMS did a meteorite exhibition, one of the things we had on the stand was a classic meteorwrong (a piece of weathered marcasite), it was in front of a bunch of real meteorites. A women came up to the stand wearing various large beads around her neck, and said she was interested in 'crystal healing'. She picked up the nearest rock which unknown to her was the Marcasite!, and she said, wow I can really feel the energy coming off this meteorite, they are much more powerful than normal rocks you can always tell... this says it all imho!! Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of David R. Vann Sent: 14 October 2010 15:07 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question Without getting too deeply into word origins - divining means to prophesy the future - from God's lips to mine ears - and few dowsers claim to be so well connected - so 'divining rods' seems quite the misnomer - Between those going back and forth as to whether a given set of experiments was 'properly done' (which, among the lay, in my experience tends to mean 'giving the results I like'), there seems to be an issue about the 'science' and 'scientists' who may or may not know anything about the field of dowsing, I would like to pose the following, non-scientific question: If dowsing actually works, as claimed by some, why then can I not find a entry for dowsing services in the Yellow Pages? Don't you think, that if this really worked, there would be a great demand for these highly specialized persons, leading to a well-regulated, credentialled and well-paid guild? I mean, that's what has happened with every other skill that works... Just sayin' David R. Vann __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us. Email i...@ssl.gb.com. You should not copy or use this email or attachment(s) for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. GENERAL STATEMENT: Southern Scientific Ltd's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. Registered address Rectory Farm Rd, Sompting, Lancing, W Sussex BN15 0DP. Company No 1800317 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Divining and dowsing-a question
Without getting too deeply into word origins - divining means to prophesy the future - from God's lips to mine ears - and few dowsers claim to be so well connected - so 'divining rods' seems quite the misnomer - Between those going back and forth as to whether a given set of experiments was 'properly done' (which, among the lay, in my experience tends to mean 'giving the results I like'), there seems to be an issue about the 'science' and 'scientists' who may or may not know anything about the field of dowsing, I would like to pose the following, non-scientific question: If dowsing actually works, as claimed by some, why then can I not find a entry for dowsing services in the Yellow Pages? Don't you think, that if this really worked, there would be a great demand for these highly specialized persons, leading to a well-regulated, credentialled and well-paid guild? I mean, that's what has happened with every other skill that works... Just sayin' David R. Vann __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
