Re: [meteorite-list] fireball seen??
it appeared as a yellowish white truncated (foreshortened?) cone reducing rapidly in size to nothing. No sound was heard. It was odd - it looked initially that something was skipping off our atmosphere... If it was fairly short in path length, you are most likely looking at a foreshortened meteor. That is a meteor appearing near it's radiant. They tend to have a somewhat cone look to them. George Zay __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball split in 2(or3) over Denmark
Hi list Some days ago (21-04-2004, 04:41 local time)a big fireball was seen splitt up in 2 or 3 pieces over Denmark. Just got all the raw data from alot of observers. Will get back with more data when I have had a chance to look at them and put them on a map. It seems to have gone into the sea :-( . but who knows. Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Fireball split in 2(or3) over Denmark
This is really wild!. I was in the Florida Keys from the 15th tru the 22 of April with 5 others. and on Friday night, around 9 or 10:00 (or later?) in the evening (the 21st) we (4 of us out of six) saw 3 meteors in a row, traveling from the east to the west. Long streaming tails, but not particularly bright. The 3 went by zip, zip,zip and disappeared into the Western horizon. We did not really see them approach, but noticed them at zenith and then just followed the tails into the horizon towards the mainland. We were in Marathon, on the north shore of the key. I have seen fireballs break up like this before, so I was not so overwhelmingly amazed at seeing something like this. There was one after the other, but as I recall, I do not think that all 3 were in view at the same time. It took about 3 to 4 seconds before all 3 disappeared on the horizon. Could this possible be the same event? Unbelievable coincidence if not. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Solvænget Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 4:32 AM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball split in 2(or3) over Denmark Hi list Some days ago (21-04-2004, 04:41 local time)a big fireball was seen splitt up in 2 or 3 pieces over Denmark. Just got all the raw data from alot of observers. Will get back with more data when I have had a chance to look at them and put them on a map. It seems to have gone into the sea :-( . but who knows. Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Streaks Across Canada
http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=229bcf98-ae28-497c-a1c1-0d838c277148i Fireball streaks across Prairies Astronomers ecstatic over space visitor Barb Pacholik and Sherri Zickefoose Calgary Herald March 23, 2004 A Calgary amateur astronomer's nightly routine of taping the city skyline paid off by capturing a glimpse of a spectacular fireball that blazed across Prairie skies. So far, I'm the only one I know who's got it, said Don Hladiuk, a geologist and member of the Royal Astronomy Society of Canada. Hladiuk mans the University of Calgary's automatic sky search camera, and the fish-eye lens caught the streak of light and two bright flashes at 7:33 p.m., Sunday night, according to the camera's timer. It's really exciting. In the end, you hope to discover new rocks. The fireball that lit up the night sky over Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba has stoked excitement among astronomers musing about the rare possibility of a significant meteorite discovery. Determining the exact path of the fireball, which University of Calgary geologist Alan Hildebrand estimates to have been the size of a kitchen sink while sailing over the city, is proving to be a challenge. We wish it was 10 tonnes instead of 100 kilograms, said Hildebrand, who is the co-ordinator of the Canadian Fireball Reporting Centre. Although the sky was cloudy on Sunday night, the burst of light was visible to Calgarian Rachel Crook as she headed north on Crowchild Trail. There was a great, huge bright-orange flash to the east, she said. It was amazing. It totally took me by surprise. My first thought was something exploded. I was looking for smoke, like it was a helicopter. On Monday, Martin Beech, a Regina astronomer who sits on a national meteorite committee, was busy sifting through reported sightings. It's potentially very exciting, said Beech, who teaches at the University of Regina's Campion College. Without a doubt, a very bright fireball was seen, he said, adding all signs are pointing to a meteor -- burning fragments of asteroids from the region between Mars and Jupiter. Because it was so widely visible and some witnesses heard a sonic boom or smelled sulphur, the possibility of a meteorite -- when pieces of a meteor actually reach Earth -- are increased, he added. There's a very good chance meteorites did come to ground from what I've heard so far. If a meteorite hit Saskatchewan and could be located, it would be the first meteorite fall -- a fireball sighting combined with finding material on the ground -- that's been recorded in the province, said Beech, a member of the Meteorites and Impacts Advisory Committee to the Canadian Space Agency. The fireball was not a satellite, part of a rocket or other manmade space debris, confirmed Capt. Dave Muralt of 17 Wing at CFB Moose Jaw, Sask. He checked Monday with Norad in Colorado, which tracks orbiting material returning to Earth. Chris Rutkowski, an unidentified flying object expert in Winnipeg, said a good chunk of Canada saw this thing. He said there were reports Sunday of sightings from Edmonton to Ottawa and into North Dakota. Because so many people saw the fireball, chances are it was very high up, said Rutkowski, who was speaking on behalf of Ufology Research of Manitoba. Despite the dramatic display, the show lasted only about four seconds. But Ronalda and Ben Kleinsasser, who live on a farm near Kerrobert, Sask., won't forget what they saw. I was watching TV when I saw this ball of fire dropping out of the sky with a tail of flames, said Ben Kleinsasser. I watched it coming down until there it was, right in front of us. My hair went up on end and I had goose bumps. It was wild. And it rumbled the floor pretty good because my daughter came running upstairs asking if someone fell in the house. Family members scoured the area for any sign of impact or damage. I figured for sure it hit one of our barns or bins. That's how close it seemed. If anyone along the meteor's path finds an odd rock, there are tell-tale characteristics to look for, such as a shiny jet-black surface and magnetic properties, Beech said. QUICK FACTS: Here is some information about meteors: - What are they: Bits of comet debris. Scientists think comets formed some 4.6 billion years ago when the sun condensed out of a cloud of hydrogen, helium and some dust and the solar system was born. - Meteor: When the meteoroid, or comet debris, enters the Earth's atmosphere, the light phenomenon is called a meteor. - Meteorite: A meteoroid that survives passage through the atmosphere and hits the ground. - Speedball:Just before they enter the Earth's atmosphere, meteoroids travel at 71 km/second, or some 2,663 times as fast as a fast pitch in baseball, or the same as going around the Earth in 3.8 minutes. - Light show: The colour of a meteor is an indication of its composition and the excitation temperature: sodium atoms give an orange-yellow light, iron atoms a
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Streaks Across Canada
"My hair went up on end and I had goose bumps. It was wild. And it rumbledthe floor pretty good because my daughter came running upstairs asking ifsomeone fell in the house." Well...there were sonicsprobably somewhere there ismeteorite pieces laying on the ground. George Zay
[meteorite-list] Fireball movie sequences
Dear List, Does anyone know if there is a good source for movie sequences of big fireballs, particularly those that have dropped meteorites, such as Peekskill and Park Forest? Sincerely, Stephen McMann Check out MSN PC Safety & Security to help ensure your PC is protected and safe. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Report Feb. 25, 2004, Fort Collins, CO (fwd)
--- Forward Message --- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:05:32 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball Report February 25, 2004, Seen from downtown Denver, Colorado (fwd) --- Forwarded Message: - From:NAMN Fireball Reports [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fireball Report February 25, 2004, Seen from downtown Denver, Colorado Date:Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:11:30 -0500 (EST) - Your Name? Guy Clinger Your Town/State/Country? Denver/Colorado/USA Date and Time? February 25, 2004 What compass direction did the fireball appear from? ssw What compass direction did the fireball DISAPPEAR from? sw How long, in seconds, were you able to see it in the sky? 2 How many degrees off the horizon was it when it APPEARED? (As a reference, a closed fist held at arm's length is approximately 10 degrees.) 40 How many degrees off the horizon was it when it DISAPPEARED? 35 How bright did it appear? Like a star, Venus, the Moon, or the setting Sun? setting Sun Did it have any color(s)? yellow/orange Did it appear to fall apart as it went by? What did that look like? The main fireball remained intact, but it had a trail of sparks and smoke Did it leave a persistent streak in the sky after it was gone? How long did that last? Yes, several seconds. Smoke trail lasted at least 5 minutes. How fast did it move? Use a 1 to 5 scale, 1 being VERY slow, and 5 being extremely quick. 2 Did you hear a sound? If yes, what was the time delay from sighting to sound? No What is the closest Town/State to where you saw the fireball? Seen from downtown Denver, Colorado Please put any additional remarks, sketches, drawings, etc. below: I saw the fireball only for a second or two as it passed behind/between two skyscrapers as I was walking south on Broadway between 18th and 17th North at about 6:30 pm MST, just after dusk but before deep darkness. The fireball was south-southwest of me, moving toward the west, disappeared from view behind a building about soutwest from me, not too high in the sky. It moved slowly enough to be surprising to me. It appeared brighter than the moon, seemed about half the size of a full moon, and had a trail of sparks 4-6 times the diameter of the fireball. I asked a man walking next to me if he had seen it and he had, he seemed to have seen it longer than me and said that the front looked larger than the rear. It had a bright trail of sparks, mainly yellow with a touch of orange, trail seemed to linger a bit even after the main spark trail had passed. I clearly saw a smoke trail lingering in its path for the next 5 minutes until I entered a building. No sound. -- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:14:44 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball Report Feb. 25, 2004, Fort Collins, CO (fwd) - Forwarded Message: -- From:NAMN Fireball Reports [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fireball Report Feb. 25, 2004, Fort Collins, CO Date:Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:44:40 -0500 (EST) - Your Name? Jeff Biegert Your Town/State/Country? Fort Collins, CO, USA Date and Time? Feb. 25, 2004 What compass direction did the fireball appear from? South What compass direction did the fireball DISAPPEAR from? Southwest How long, in seconds, were you able to see it in the sky? 2.5 How many degrees off the horizon was it when it APPEARED? (As a reference, a closed fist held at arm's length is approximately 10 degrees.) 35 How many degrees off the horizon was it when it DISAPPEARED? 10 How bright did it appear? Like a star, Venus, the Moon, or the setting Sun? brighter then the moon Did it have any color(s)? red, yellow, blue, green Did it appear to fall apart as it went by? What did that look like? trail with spots, pieces breaking off Did it leave a persistent streak in the sky after it was gone? How long did that last? no How fast did it move? Use a 1 to 5 scale, 1 being VERY slow, and 5 being extremely quick. 2 Did you hear a sound? If yes, what was the time delay from sighting to sound? crackling, no delay What is the closest Town/State to where you saw the fireball? Fort Collins, CO Please put any additional remarks, sketches, drawings, etc. below: The event started due south at approx. 35 degrees elevation and traveled slowly south / southwest, below the moon and Venus. From my location, it looked as if it could have arrived in Rocky mountain National Park. It's magnitude seemed almost 2 times that of the crescent moon. The head of the meteor was red with some yellow, green and blue tailing behind along with a spotted train. The size is estimated at about 1/8 to 1/4 diameter of the moon, definitely the largest and brightest I have ever seen. The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org To stop getting all email from the 'meteorobs' lists, use
[meteorite-list] fireball speed
Dear List, In general how rapidly must an object travel through the atmosphere to produce visible light? Note that don't even know whether one speed can approximate an answer, or whether factors such as air density, the shape of the object, or the composition of the object have an enormous effect. Thanks Stephen McMann Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. locations. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball speed
In a message dated 2/22/2004 8:11:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In general how rapidly must an object travel through the atmosphere to produce visible light? Note that don't even know whether one speed can approximate an answer, or whether factors such as air density, the shape of the object, or the composition of the object have an enormous effect. Steve: According to several people on the list, its about 4000 MPH for a stone and more for an Iron. I believe were talking about the lower altitudes below 20,000 Ft. I'd like to know if there is record of a fall burning all the way to the ground. Has this ever been recorded ? Kris Henkel, Palm Springs.
[meteorite-list] fireball speed
For a meteorite to be lit, it has to be traveling faster than the speed of sound (in air) and probably faster than that. So a meteorite can only get to the ground while lit if hypersonic. When an object hits something at hypersonic velocities, the shock wave from the impact is traveling backwards through the impacting object at the speed of the impactor PLUS the speed of the shock wave itself. This combined velocity will almost certainly be greater than the speed of sound in the interior of the object. (Testing of sample meteorites reveal they don't transit sound very rapidly.) If the shock wave exceeds the speed of sound in the object, it will convert the object into something that will either transmit sound at the higher speed or allow the energy of the shock wave to escape, namely, a ball of superheated rock or iron vapor or plasma! As far as to whether a give meteoroid will reach the ground and get promoted to the status of meteorite, the general rule is this: If the mass behind each unit area of the frontal surface of the incoming object is greater than the weight of the atmosphere that lies in the path of that unit area from the top of the atmosphere to the ground, it has a chance of landing on Earth in one piece. Of course, if the re-entry forces are strong enough to fragment the object, then you have to re-calculate the chances for each individual fragment (always less). Fragmentation is what prevents most cosmic visitors from checking into the terrestrial hotel. An object that takes a low entry angle (like a re-entering spacecraft) and has a low entry velocity has the best chance. It has been calculated that the maximum weight for an iron to survive to the reach the ground is no more than 100 tons. This is why the rumored Mauritanian meteorite the size of a big hill is almost certainly a myth. (Sorry, I can't spell its name, Chingui... something.) Unless, of course, it was an iron reef from a great impact in the distant past. Hoba was probably that size before it started rusting away, and the great Greenland irons are less than 100 tons also (only 31 tons). Interesting that these two locations are far north and south, towards the poles, where captures of objects that are moving in the plane of the solar system is possible as they just graze the atmosphere. Might explain why there are so many nice meteorites in Antarctica... By the way, the maximum weight for a stone to reach the ground is less than for an iron, only 40 tons or so. That's a stone roughly spheroidal and about 25 feet in diameter! So, if you notice a fusion crusted rock, say, 9 meters across, be sure and check it with a magnet. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] fireball speed
By the way, the maximum weight for a stone to reach the ground is less than for an iron, only 40 tons or so. That's a stone roughly spheroidal and about 25 feet in diameter! So, if you notice a fusion crusted rock, say, 9 meters across, be sure and check it with a magnet. thats a bit overly optimistic with regards to diameter I'm afraid... a shperiod with a radius of 9 meters would have 382 million cubic centimeters of volume. at the low end of 3 g/cc (juvinas) that would be about 1145 metric tons. 25 feet in diameter is still 402 metric tons.. to get 40 tons, assuming a light eucrite, you would need a rock of about 147cm in radius, or 11.6ft across so remember, if you are walking down a path and spot what looks like a eucrite boulder, dont bother checking it unless it's less than 12ft in diameter! ;) now if only lunars came in that size! yes I'm bored and on the 'net... unfortunatly uv cure epoxy doesnt cure any faster when you watch it, hence mental math and posting = a good way to pass the time :) _ Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fireball speed
Whoops! It's those tricky decimal points again. Or long division, perhaps. Either that, or the back of this envelope is not big enough. Maybe I should have used one of those two PDP-11's you have connected with a serial cable? And the really silly thing is that three years ago (02-20-01), I posted the correct answer to this List myself. The best thing about keeping 30,000 emails in your computer is the fun of finding one. At the risk of repeating myself, here it is: Then there's the question of how large a stone could possibly fall and survive? Nothing can get through the atmosphere to the ground without impacting at destructively high speeds unless its mass per unit area is less than the atmosphere's mass per unit area (from the top of the atmosphere down to the ground). Assuming a stone three times denser than water, the theoretical upper limit is a sphere of about three meters diameter, or 40,000,000 grams (40 metric tons). To reach this upper limit, everything would have to be perfect. The stone would have to be strong, no cracks or fissures, well consolidated (porosity of 1% or less), so it is strong enough not to fracture under the dynamic pressure of re-entry. It would probably be an achondrite. It should be of a regular shape so turbulence wouldn't make it oscillate and saw it apart. It should have the lowest possible entry velocity and a low angle of incidence for a long grazing re-entry, so it will reach its stagnation point at a very low altitude, near the ground, so it doesn't pick up much speed in the dead drop phase of its fall. It shouldn't land on rocks, which would fragment it, but soft soils. Is that all? What else do you want? That's all. That's the perfect meteorite. So if anyone notices a ten-foot ball of rock half-buried in the cow pasture and covered with fresh black fusion crust, they should definitely phone it in. Richard Norton estimated that, even in the best case, a meteroid on it way to being a meteorite loses 90% of its mass to ablation on the way down, so maybe the 4 ton Jilin started out high in the atmosphere as the perfect 40 ton chondrite. Here's some comparisons: Mechanical (crushing) strength: Carbonaceous chondrites from 0.1 bar to 10 bar. Ordinary Chondrites from 62 bar to 3700 bar. Achondrites from 2500 bar to 4000 bar. And irons from 3200 bar to 4400 bar. Dynamic pressure of the atmosphere = density of air times velocity of meteorite squared. Fireballs in meteor showers break up at 0.1 bars to 10 bars. Sporadic bolides at 30 to 50 bars. Tracked and recovered stones (like Lost City and Innisfree) never reached 200 bars of dynamic pressure. The Tunguska object (whatever it was) disrupted at 200 bars. Cratering will occur when the object impacts at a speed greater than the speed of sound in the material of the impactor. You would think the speed of sound might have been measured in many meteorites, but it hasn't. The only values I could find are: for shear waves 600 to 1200 meters/sec and for transverse or pressure waves, 2000 to 4200 meters/sec. This is considerably less than for terrestial rocks. Meteorites are much more porous than terrestial rocks also. Ordinary chondrites have porosities of 0.7% to 18.3%. Carbonaceous porosities up to 25% (like a sponge). Even achondrites run 4.3% to 15.1%. Similar terrestial rocks would probably not exceed 1% porosity. Meteorites are poorly consolidated. More than you ever wanted to know, I guess. At least epoxy dries faster than paint. And, you got the answer right before it dried! I bet you used one of those PDP-11's. Sterling -- stan . wrote: By the way, the maximum weight for a stone to reach the ground is less than for an iron, only 40 tons or so. That's a stone roughly spheroidal and about 25 feet in diameter! So, if you notice a fusion crusted rock, say, 9 meters across, be sure and check it with a magnet. thats a bit overly optimistic with regards to diameter I'm afraid... a shperiod with a radius of 9 meters would have 382 million cubic centimeters of volume. at the low end of 3 g/cc (juvinas) that would be about 1145 metric tons. 25 feet in diameter is still 402 metric tons.. to get 40 tons, assuming a light eucrite, you would need a rock of about 147cm in radius, or 11.6ft across so remember, if you are walking down a path and spot what looks like a eucrite boulder, dont bother checking it unless it's less than 12ft in diameter! ;) now if only lunars came in that size! yes I'm bored and on the 'net... unfortunatly uv cure epoxy doesnt cure any faster when you watch it, hence mental math and posting =
[meteorite-list] fireball?
any news about fireballs etc around the 2nd of january is of great interest to me. in victoria, australia we saw a bright light cross the horizon in the middle of the day. i have been unable to find any information on what it was.Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Upgrade now! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19story_id=3903 Great balls of fire, its a meteorite! expatica.com (Holland) 22 January 2004 AMSTERDAM - A large number of star gazers claim to have seen a large fireball shoot through cloud cover on Wednesday night in what experts believe was a meteorite falling to earth. The Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) said the fireball probably took place somewhere above the Belgian-German border in Wallonia. It was seen in Limburg, eastern Belgium and Germany, Dutch news agency ANP reported. The Leiden-based DMS also said the fireball was most probably due to a meteorite and ruled out the possibility that it was a broken fragment of a satellite or a rocket. A society spokesman based the claim on information supplied by US aerospace agency Nasa. But a lack of hard and fast facts regarding the fireball means it is difficult to determine if fragments fell to earth. It is assumed that the meteorite burned up in the earth's atmosphere before hitting the ground. Dozens of sightings were lodged with star watch association Exploirion, based in the southern Dutch city of Heerlen, Besides sightings in Limburg, Belgium, Germany and even residents of the northern Dutch city of Groningen said they saw the spectacle. Meteorites usually burn up in the earth's atmosphere and Wednesday night's fireball was created about 60 to 100km above the earth's surface. German news agency DPA said the rock probably did not hit the earth's surface. A researcher with the European Space Agency (ESA) in Darmstadt, Germany, said the meteorite would have been about 10cm to 50cm in size. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium
There are already track and brightness data? Or how could the ESA-man predict, that the meteorite will have a size of 10 - 50cm? Martin A. - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19story_id=3903 Great balls of fire, its a meteorite! expatica.com (Holland) 22 January 2004 AMSTERDAM - A large number of star gazers claim to have seen a large fireball shoot through cloud cover on Wednesday night in what experts believe was a meteorite falling to earth. The Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) said the fireball probably took place somewhere above the Belgian-German border in Wallonia. It was seen in Limburg, eastern Belgium and Germany, Dutch news agency ANP reported. The Leiden-based DMS also said the fireball was most probably due to a meteorite and ruled out the possibility that it was a broken fragment of a satellite or a rocket. A society spokesman based the claim on information supplied by US aerospace agency Nasa. But a lack of hard and fast facts regarding the fireball means it is difficult to determine if fragments fell to earth. It is assumed that the meteorite burned up in the earth's atmosphere before hitting the ground. Dozens of sightings were lodged with star watch association Exploirion, based in the southern Dutch city of Heerlen, Besides sightings in Limburg, Belgium, Germany and even residents of the northern Dutch city of Groningen said they saw the spectacle. Meteorites usually burn up in the earth's atmosphere and Wednesday night's fireball was created about 60 to 100km above the earth's surface. German news agency DPA said the rock probably did not hit the earth's surface. A researcher with the European Space Agency (ESA) in Darmstadt, Germany, said the meteorite would have been about 10cm to 50cm in size. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium
Because he is a scientist *g*. They are always right :-). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium There are already track and brightness data? Or how could the ESA-man predict, that the meteorite will have a size of 10 - 50cm? Martin A. - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball Seen From Germany, Belgium http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19story_i d=3903 Great balls of fire, its a meteorite! expatica.com (Holland) 22 January 2004 AMSTERDAM - A large number of star gazers claim to have seen a large fireball shoot through cloud cover on Wednesday night in what experts believe was a meteorite falling to earth. The Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) said the fireball probably took place somewhere above the Belgian-German border in Wallonia. It was seen in Limburg, eastern Belgium and Germany, Dutch news agency ANP reported. The Leiden-based DMS also said the fireball was most probably due to a meteorite and ruled out the possibility that it was a broken fragment of a satellite or a rocket. A society spokesman based the claim on information supplied by US aerospace agency Nasa. But a lack of hard and fast facts regarding the fireball means it is difficult to determine if fragments fell to earth. It is assumed that the meteorite burned up in the earth's atmosphere before hitting the ground. Dozens of sightings were lodged with star watch association Exploirion, based in the southern Dutch city of Heerlen, Besides sightings in Limburg, Belgium, Germany and even residents of the northern Dutch city of Groningen said they saw the spectacle. Meteorites usually burn up in the earth's atmosphere and Wednesday night's fireball was created about 60 to 100km above the earth's surface. German news agency DPA said the rock probably did not hit the earth's surface. A researcher with the European Space Agency (ESA) in Darmstadt, Germany, said the meteorite would have been about 10cm to 50cm in size. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Seen Over Colorado
http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireball20040111.html January 11, 2004 Fireball Cloudbait Observatory Guffey, Colorado This slow, bright meteor was seen by residents of Colorado at 7:05 PM. It was also caught on two of the DMNS Allsky Network cameras. 175 witness reports have been received as of January 20 (small black squares on the map below). The initial information suggests that this fireball began south of Rifle, Colorado, and traveled eastward just south of I-70, ending over Aurora, a Denver suburb. The total path length was about 155 miles, and the speed was about 10.5 miles per second. The fireball was traveling in a level path at a height of about 44 miles. The radiant was probably in Aquarius. Meteorites may have dropped in the area around the Buckley Air National Guard station. Residents should be alert for rocks with a fresh black crust, or for signs of recently disturbed dirt, possibly resembling a small animal burrow. This fireball is particularly interesting because of its date. Many witnesses reported similar fireballs on January 11 of 1998 and 2001. DMNS Allsky cameras also recorded bright fireballs on this date in 2002 and 2003. [Map] [Image] This is an image of the fireball from the Guffey School allsky camera. The meteor begins at the left, and travels nearly a quarter of the way across the sky, almost parallel to the horizon. The gaps in the trail are an artifact of the camera that made the image. Because the event was so long (12.5 seconds) the camera had to periodically stop and save the image, and those breaks show up as gaps in the trail. A 384 KB animated GIF of this fireball can be seen here. If you saw the fireball and have not made a report, please do so here: http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireballs.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Lights Sky Over England
http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/publish/article_8897.shtml Air crash fears as fireball lights sky Shropshire Star (England) November 28, 2003 A Telford pensioner braced himself for an earsplitting explosion when he saw what he thought was an aircraft on fire crashing to the ground near The Wrekin today. The huge fireball - much bigger than the average falling star - lit up the dawn sky with a plume of sparks, said retired factory worker David Glass, 71, of Charles Road, Arleston, Wellington. But there was no explosion after all, and a Shropshire astronomer said Mr Glass had almost certainly seen a giant meteor. The sighting happened at 6.05am. I saw this massive thing coming down out of the sky just over the back of The Wrekin, with a shower of sparks behind, he said. Kev Wildgoose, of Shropshire Astronomical Society, said: It sounds like an extremely large meteor - something that is officially classed as a fireball. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball reported in night sky over Kingsport TN.
Callers report fireball in night sky Tuesday, October 21, 2003 By Staff report KINGSPORT - Callers to the Kingsport Times-News and Kingsport Central Dispatch reported a fireball in the sky Monday evening. They weren't alone. Similar calls were reported to other organizations from as far away as Knoxville and Greenville, S.C. Gary Henson, director of East Tennessee State University's observatory in Johnson City, said no one at the facility observed the phenomenon. I haven't heard of any space debris. ... It sounds like a meteor, which is quite common. He said even something the size of a softball can produce an intense flash across the sky and be visible from a wide distance as it skips through a shallow orbit. Claudia Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Shoots Across Sky Over India
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=1theme=usrsess=1id=23876 Meteorite shoots across Orissa sky The Statesman (India) September 27, 2003 BHUBANESWAR - A huge meteorite shot across the sky this evening causing panic in coastal Orissa particularly Kendrapara, Jagatsinghpur, Bhadrak and Jajpur. Villagers saw a huge ball of fire falling from the sky. For a few seconds, it appeared to be daylight. District officials received frantic messages and in some villages like Mendhakia and Kandia, the fire brigade was mobilised on information that the ball of fire had landed and caused considerable damage. Three people were admitted to hospital at Kendrapara after they fell unconscious on seeing the meteorite Along National Highway No. 5 drivers said they were dazzled for a few seconds. False alarms were raised in almost every coastal district after 6.30 p.m. when it was first seen in the sky. Hundreds of people rushed out to cross check. Some said they could hear a rumbling sound while others vouched for the fact that the windows and glass panes had rattled. Phones kept ringing as people from distant places wanted to ascertain facts and the well being of their relatives living elsewhere in coastal districts. When contacted sources at the planetarium here said it was a huge meteorite which was visible across the coastal belt. It is different from the meteor shower which is small in size and can be predicted, Dr Jayadeb Kar of the planetarium here said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball?
Hello list, I am still unsure of what qualifies a meteor to be a fireball. I saw a good one tonight. It was about 3 times as bright as Jupiter, yellowish in color but the strange thing was it did not really leave a trail, maybe a short one right behind it but it was so short you could not notice it. Why is that? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 PS no noise. : __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Observed Over Minnesota
http://www.grandmarais-mn.com/placed/index.php?sect_rank=5story_id=135246 Becoming an involuntary member of the UFO Club Column: Magnetic North Vicki Biggs-Anderson Cook County News-Herald (Minnesota) March 13, 2003 Last Saturday I became an involuntary member of the UFO club. The object I saw was not, however, so much flying as it was falling to earth. And the spot it came down is, either in fact or in my overactive imagination, less than a mile from my home. Lest anyone think I was under the influence of anything more than winter, it was just 6 p.m., still daylight and I'd done nothing more than put in a few hours at the office, gas up my car and do the week's grocery run. No mood-altering chemicals in this kid, unless one regards a mini-Snickers bar as a serious hallucinogenic. I do not. The drive home was totally uneventful until I got to the turn at County Rd. 14 and Caspers Hill Rd. I was half listening to Garrison Keillor blather on the radio and half writing this week's editorial in my mind. As I turned the steering wheel to the right, brightness in the trees to the left caught my eye. It was a big white ball of light, angling down through the trees. Oh, oh, oh, ohh, was all I could stammer over and over as what looked to be a falling star, shining tail and all, disappeared in the area of my neighbor's gravel pit. There is a plowed road into the woods leading to the pit and I did go a couple hundred yards down it, but decided dusk was a dumb time to go meteor-looking. Besides, I couldn't wait to get home and tell Paul what I'd seen. Now most guys would hear something like this and respond with a completely non-supportive, Are you nuts? But not my sweetheart. He was pretty darned impressed - so much so that he suggested I call the cop shop and report the thing. Are you nuts? I said, imagining my co-workers shrieking in laughter as reports of the Caspers Hill woman who saw a fireball got dutifully entered into the March 8 Sheriff's Report. My sanity is questioned quite enough thanks to all the critters I've chosen to keep in chow and scratch, I said. Eventually, I called. No one else had reported the sighting, but then the area is pretty sparsely populated. I told the dispatcher and Sheriff that Paul and I were going to go out and look for the meteorite the next day, Sunday. But I awoke feeling like my stomach was filled with space debris. Delicacy prevents me from going into detail. But hiking was the last thing I was going to be doing that day. So I hiked the Internet instead, hoping to find out what might be out there. Apparently meteorites - meteors that impact the earth instead of burning up in the atmosphere - are common enough to warrant a magazine devoted just to them. Meteorite, the International Quarterly of Meteorites and Meteorite Science, has a fascinating Web site. There is also a market in meteorites. One Web catalog lists the year, location of the find and the type of matter, and then prices the meteorite by weight, often selling slices of the material to collectors. My Internet search for Minnesota meteorites was not fruitful, except that I found a retired University of Minnesota professor, Paul W. Weiblen, online writing about northeastern Minnesota geology and his interest in meteorites. He said most 'meteorites' brought to him over the years were nothing but earth rocks. But in 1996, he got his hands on the real thing. A baseball-size meteorite had fallen on a parked car in Turtle Lake, Wis. on the night of Oct. 21. The 82-gram chunk of chondrite had struck the windshield of an unoccupied Geo Metro. The meteorite is now in the University collection. The fate of the Geo Metro is not mentioned. My favorite Website is the Smithsonian's, metorites.org. It features a slide show tour of their collection of meteorites. They are all shapes, sizes and ages. Some are from Mars. One is a mammoth hoop-shaped chunk big enough for a moose herd to run through. A plain sandwich-shaped meteorite on display at the Smithsonian fell to earth on Nov. 16, 1492 in Alsace, France and another meteorite there is the first recorded touch-down in America, from Connecticut in 1807. If I could have any I wanted, though, it would be the 2002 pound Goose Lake, Calif. meteorite. That behemoth looks like a polished petrified brain. How cool would that be in a backyard pond? Probably nothing like any of the above is in the woods less than a mile from my back door. On the other hand, this is Cook County. I think we'll take a look come spring. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin
Recent Fireball Reports - still seeking reports of a sonic boom... - Forward Message meteorobs-digest Thursday, February 27 2003 Volume 04 : Number 1100 (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin (meteorobs) March NEBULA now on-line... -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:55:42 +0800 From: Huan Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Yesterday, many amateur astronomers Tianjin (a city to the southeast of Beijing) reported that they saw a big fireball at 07h15m (LT, equivalent 23h15m UT). The appearence of fireball was not seen, but ended at about 20 degrees above the east horizon, and slightly to the north. The fireball was at least -10mag... It is said it brightened the whole sky and the train lasted at least 15 minutes. No electrophonic or other sounds was heard. Today, I just got known some people in Beijing also watched this phenomenon. The time was just 1 minutes earlier, i.e. 07h14m LT. Observers in Beijing reported the fireball appear at about 60 degrees above the east horizon, from northwest to southeast, rushed with medium speed. Someone said the fireball was even brighter than the sun! My mother was on the way to her company at that time. While driving toward the west at 07h14m, she noticed the sky was suddenly brightened. She's puzzled, but did see the bolide. I'm now wondering if we can find any meteorite of this fireball somewhere? Any suggestion? or how to calculate the position of it/them? PS, the distance between Beijing and Tianjin was precisely 120km. Best wishes and Clear skies! Huan -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 02:33:37 -0700 From: Jim Gamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Huan, Can you provide a date for this event. I know the person who releases DOD (Department of Defense) satellite data to the public and he may be able to verify this event. Have you heard of any sightings from people East of Tianjin. Thanks. Regards, Jim Gamble El Paso, Tx Station-Sandia Meteor Detection Network All Sky Camera System 31.47.7.822N 106.18.18.770W [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/desert_lights -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:35:24 +0800 From: Huan Meng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Jim, Oh, sorry, it seemed I forgot the most important information. ;-P The date for this event was February 25/26. China uses local time in +8 time zone, so, the precise time in UT should be February 25th, 23h14m to 15m. Tianjin is a port in north China, on the west coast of Pacific. The east to that city was the sea, i'm afraid no observer there... Both Beijing and Tianjin has population over 10 million, and 07h15m was just in the rush hours. So, perhaps we can find more witnesses (?). Thanks you, Kind regards, Huan - - Original Message - From: Jim Gamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: (meteorobs) Fireball over Beijing and Tianjin Huan, Can you provide a date for this event. I know the person who releases DOD (Department of Defense) satellite data to the public and he may be able to verify this event. Have you heard of any sightings from people East of Tianjin. Thanks. Regards, Jim Gamble El Paso, Tx Station-Sandia Meteor Detection Network All Sky Camera System 31.47.7.822N 106.18.18.770W [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/desert_lights -- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:30:51 -0500 From: George Gliba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) March NEBULA now on-line... The March 2003 issue of NEBULA, the monthly newsletter of the NASA/Goddard Astronomy Club, is now on-line at: http://garc9.gsfc.nasa.gov/~astro/gac.html GWG The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org To stop getting all email from the 'meteorobs' lists, use our Webform: http://www.meteorobs.org/subscribe.html -- End of meteorobs-digest V4 #1100 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Reports
Here are some recent Fireball Reports: - Forward Message --- Subject: meteorobs-digest V4 #1096 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:16:05 -0500 (EST) meteorobs-digest Thursday, February 20 2003 Volume 04 : Number 1096 (meteorobs) Not really... (meteorobs) Recent Observations: January 2003 (meteorobs) Illinois fireball? (meteorobs) Re: Possible outburst March 1 2003 (meteorobs) 2 Fireballs over the Netherlands on Feb 19 --- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:09:11 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Not really... Re: Meteor Trackers Called in to Predict Trajectory of Columbia Debris Actually, NASA did not confirm this... NASA spokesman John Ira Petty at the Johnson Space Center could not confirm whether NASA or the Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB) was seeking the help of any meteor experts in California. The premise of this Space.Com article rests entirely on the word of a former shuttle engineer from California. I doubt that he would even qualify as a NASA official, whatever that elusive term means. And, before my nasa.gov email address gets me in trouble by being declared as a NASA source, let me make clear that - neither I, nor any meteor expert that I know of, have been approached by NASA for help. What I can confirm is that a predicted trajectory and probable debris field has already been plotted!! It was calculated by our own List member, Rob Matson, on his own time, at his own expense, without any funding from NASA. His data is published at this URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/debris-locators/files/ Before I went to Tucson earlier this month, I set up a discussion group on YahooGroups so that members of our meteorite-recovery team could have a place (other than existing meteorite-lists) to discuss the O.T. subject of the STS-107 disaster and how best to help NASA locate debris. Before I returned from that Tucson trip, Rob Matson had already calculated and uploaded a map of a ground-track for the Columbia STS-107 re-entry flight path. Once again, this was accomplished before NASA published their web site. Now the Debris-locators Group will continue its theme of lead by example, by supplying links to official NASA web sites for people who wish to report debris locations, at the following URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/debris-locators/links Access to these links can be made by obtaining a Yahoo ID name and password at this web site: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/debris-locators With best regards, BOb Verish Moderator, Debris-locators P.S. - the Johnson Space Center Debris Hotline-number is (281) 483-3388 - - Original Message -- [meteorite-list] Meteor Trackers Called in to Predict Trajectory of Columbia Debris Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:37:18 -0800 (PST) http://space.com/missionlaunches/sts107_meteor_030218.html Meteor Trackers Called in to Predict Trajectory of Columbia Debris By Jim Banke space.com 18 February 2003 -- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:37:55 -0500 From: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Recent Observations: January 2003 Observations received by the North American Meteor Network for the month of January 2003 are now on our website at http://www.namnmeteors.org/ Our thanks to all of the observers!! Clear skies! Mark Davis, South Carolina, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:27:48 -0800 From: Dr. Tony Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Illinois fireball? Hi, I received this email from a reader of spaceweather.com, and wondered if anyone on this list had heard reports of the fireball he mentions. Thanks! -Tony This email is to report a sighting of the biggest meteor or somthing I have ever seen. Sunday evening at about 730pm central time I was south bound on I90 at about the 34 mile marker in Illinois, when a very bright object came streaming down from the southern sky heading only slightly west. this thing was so big and bright that both i and my wife were amazed. I am sure that some of it must have made it's way to the ground. There were 2 planes in the area who also must have seen it as it was too big to miss. I would appreciate any info you may have on this sighting. Thanks for your attention Wayne Dr. Tony Phillips, editor Science@NASA http://science.nasa.gov SpaceWeather.com http://spaceweather.com -- Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:10:19 +0200 From: Lyytinen Esko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (meteorobs) Possible outburst March 1 2003 I think that in principle m-scatter is very suitable for recording this. You only have to be where the radiant is (well) above horizon, preferably quite high. Although I have not figured out the exact limits, South America is suitable, the more southern (and western),
[meteorite-list] Fireball Reporting meteoroid heating
Some interesting comments and good information in the following compilation from the Internet: - Attached Message -- meteorobs-digest Wednesday, February 12 2003 Volume 04 : Number 1091 Re: (meteorobs) HTML on Line (meteorobs) meteoroid heating (meteorobs) Fw: (AMS-Staff) Fw: web page (meteorobs) B.C. Fireball reporting. -- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:16:40 - From: Cross David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (meteorobs) HTML on Line Just to add my tuppence worth... Even though my relatively modern email software (Outlook 2000) displays HTML-formatted emails OK, it's not smart enough to deal with them once they've been put into the digest version, so I have to wade through feet of incomprehensible tags. And I really couldn't cope with the volume if I got the messages individually (although I do switch over for events like the Leonid maxima). And while I get my home internet access at local call rates, I do still have to pay per minute, so I prefer to get the maximum information with the minimum bytes. I'm all in favour of people putting in links to flashier presentations, though: that way you can choose whether to go there or not. David Cross ps My apologies for the following, unstoppable, disclaimer. I'm aware of the irony (but at least it's plain-text)... The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org -- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:34:27 -0600 From: Tom Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) meteoroid heating Ok, the highly energized atmospheric particles are boiling off material (stony-iron for the moment) thru radiant energy rather than friction. This makes sense - might explain the scouring process pretty nicely. I guess my question is this... for those who obtain spectra of incoming meteors - how do you discern the emissions from the ionized atmospheric gasses and those of the frozen gasses attributable to the cometary debris. I know some of the more complex compounds will have their readily identifiable signature but how can you state with certainty the make up of the meteoroid? I'm thinking the spectral image will be a combination of the two. Any thoughts? Tom -- Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:53:27 -0800 From: Ed Majden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fw: (AMS-Staff) Fw: web page Subject: (AMS-Staff) Fw: web page I have created a web page with one of my Leonid meteor spectra. It can be found at: http://members.shaw.ca/epmajden/index.htm Ed Majden - Courtenay B.C. CANADA -- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:52:05 -0800 From: Ed Majden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) B.C. Fireball reporting. I have recently taken over as unofficial coordinator of the Sandia Bolide Detection Network located on Vancouver Island and Washington State. We would appreciate anyone observing fireballs over B.C. and adjacent U.S. States to report these to me so I can alert our all-sky camera operators to check their video tapes. Information required, is your location, date of observation, time of the event (+/- 10 minutes accuracy is fine), your time zone, (PST/MST/PDT etc). Tapes are generally kept for about a week before they are re-used so we need this information as soon as possible. In addition to this, we have an interview network in place. When a major fireball event occurs these volunteer interviewers are alerted so they can go out and do in-situ interviews of people that report seeing the fireball. The required measurements are taken so a possible ground track and fall area can be arrived at. In order to calculate this we need reports from observers of both sides of the track. Anyone interested in joining this volunteer interview team should contact me. We need more people doing this over mainland and northern British Columbia. Ed Majden - MIAC Associate Sandia Bolide Detection Station - Courtenay, B.C. The archive and Web site for our list is at http://www.meteorobs.org To stop getting all email from the 'meteorobs' lists, use our Webform: http://www.meteorobs.org/subscribe.html -- End of meteorobs-digest V4 #1091 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Splits Up Over Japan
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030207p2a00m0fp003000c.html Great balls of fire, is that a UFO? Mainichi Daily News (Japan) February 7, 2003 Observatories throughout western Japan were swamped overnight with calls from people claiming to have spotted a UFO, the Mainichi learned Friday. Dozens witnessed the phenomenon at around 8:30 p.m. Thursday night, and though what they saw may have shook their nerves, there was little need for them to rattle their brains as it appears to have been great balls of fire caused by a falling meteor or comet. Moving from west to east across the sky, the initial fireball split into three before disappearing. It was white at first and then turned yellow. It was like watching the headlights of a truck from a long distance. I thought it must have been a meteor, but I was shocked as I'd never experienced anything like this before, said Yoshitaka Hazenoki, a member of the board of education in the Wakayama Prefecture city of Arita. Shinya Narusawa of the Nishi Harima Observatory in Hyogo Prefecture's Sayo told of receiving many reports about the phenomenon. We've received information of sightings in Tanegashima (Nagasaki Prefecture), he said. For the moment, we think it was a meteor that dropped into the Pacific Ocean. Observatories around Fukuoka also reported seeing the flaming balls of fire streaming through the sky. Fukuoka Observatory officials said the fireballs were either a meteor or comet. Reports from Kitakyushu of a bright red light with a tail traveling across the sky in an easterly direction over Kitakyushu were also forwarded to the Mainichi. (Mainichi Shimbun, Feb. 7, 2003) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Over England
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/febcourierrede/NewsStory.cfm?StoryID=30924Today=310103 METEORITE HAS MAN SEEING STARS By Michael Alexander The Courier (United Kingdom) January 31, 2003 AN EAST NEUK man was still rubbing his eyes in bewilderment yesterday after seeing what he reckons was a meteorite blazing across the early morning sky. The man was walking his dog near Kingsbarns around 7am on Tuesday when a bright object arced across the sky at great speed, creating enough light, he said, to illuminate his dog in the dawn gloom. The man told The Courier, It seemed to come from miles up. It came across the sky and I could see my dog with the light. I took a sighting through the trees to give me a rough line of where I might search. I just wondered if anyone else had reported anything? Yesterday, Dr Bill Samson, astronomer at the Mills Observatory in Dundee, said he had received no other reports but he could not rule out the possibility that the man had seen a meteorite. Dr Samson explained that there was probably enough loose material in orbit around our sun to create another planet. This was a mix of rock and iron left over from the formation of the solar system billions of years ago, and occasionally particles ranging from the size of a grain of sand to larger objects would enter the Earth's atmosphere. When an object missed the Earth, astronomers called it a meteoroid and if it entered the Earth's atmosphere it was a meteor, more commonly known as a shooting star. On the rare occasions when an object made it to the ground, however, it became known as a meteorite. Dr Samson said, There is no scheduled meteor shower at the moment but we do get the odd meteorite nonetheless. The meteor would look like a bright light moving quickly across the sky leaving a bright or smoky trail behind it. Most are about the size of a grain of sand but something the size of a golf ball might make it all the way to the ground. Dr Samson referred to a case in Strathmore around 100 years ago when a meteorite reportedly smashed through a house. However, he said it might be difficult for an eye witness to be sure of what they had seen since a grain of rock entering the atmosphere at 40 miles per second would leave a trail some 40 or 50 miles up. The trail was left when the atmosphere glowed rather than the particle itself. He added, With this in mind it might look like something is coming to ground close by when in actual fact it could be a speck of dust burning up at great altitude half-way across the North Sea. A spokesman for Fife Police said the force had no information regarding an incident over Kingsbarns on Tuesday morning. However, he confirmed that Tornados from RAF Leuchars were flying in the area around that time. Dr Samson said he would like to hear from anyone who thinks they might have borne witness to this or other alleged meteorite sightings. He can be contacted at the Mills Observatory on (01382) 435846. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Over England
Hmmm .. is it just me? But does it seem to anyone else out there,that there are an inordinate amount of these fireballs lately? And an awful lot of strange sonic booms? I have a bad feeling about this Rosie - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Over England __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Over England
Ron Baalke forwards... METEORITE HAS MAN SEEING STARS By Michael Alexander The Courier (United Kingdom) January 31, 2003 AN EAST NEUK man was still rubbing his eyes in bewilderment yesterday after seeing what he reckons was a meteorite blazing across the early morning sky. The man was walking his dog near Kingsbarns around 7am on Tuesday when a bright object arced across the sky at great speed, creating enough light, he said, to illuminate his dog in the dawn gloom. The man told The Courier, It seemed to come from miles up. It came across the sky and I could see my dog with the light. I took a sighting through the trees to give me a rough line of where I might search. I just wondered if anyone else had reported anything? ... In fact, the East Neuk is an area of eastern Fife, Scotland (not England), across the Firth of Forth from Edinburgh. Kingsbarns is a village about 10 km ESE of St Andrews, the Home of Golf. The Courier is a newspaper published a little further north in Dundee, across the Firth of Tay. Alan -- Alan Pickup / COSPAR 2707: 55.8968N 3.1989W +208m (WGS84 datum) Edinburgh / SatEvo Home Page: http://www.wingar.demon.co.uk/satevo/ Scotland / Decay Watch: http://www.wingar.demon.co.uk/satevo/dkwatch/ * __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Lights Up Sky Over Spain and North Africa
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030129/ap_wo_en_po/eu_gen_spain_fireball_1 Fireball lights up sky over Spain and North Africa Associated Press January 29, 2003 MADRID, Spain - A meteor was likely the cause of a brilliant fireball that streaked across skies of southern Spain and North Africa this week, astronomers said. The flash Monday night was visible in much of Spain's Andalusia region and as far away as La Mancha, hundreds of kilometers to the north, as it arced over Algeria, said Jose Juan Lopez Moreno, a researcher at the Astrophysics Institute of Andalusia. It was tremendously bright, much brighter than the moon, Lopez Moreno said. I have never seen anything like it. He said the ball as mostly white with red and green fringes, and lasted just a couple seconds. A round-the-clock computerized camera run by the European Space Agency caught the flash on film. Fireballs as intense as the one on Monday are rare, said Jose Maria Trigo, an astrophysicist working with the European Space Agency. He said the chunk could have weighed several hundred kilograms when it entered the earth's atmosphere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Watch: Starshine 3 To Re-enter Earth's Atmosphere
Space Weather News for January 19, 2003 http://www.spaceweather.com The glittering Starshine 3 satellite, built by schoolkids and launched in Sept. 2001, will soon re-enter Earth's atmosphere. Can you spot the fireball? Re-entry estimates vary from 0500 UT (midnight EST) to 1330 UT (8:30 EST) on Tuesday, Jan. 21st. Although Starshine is likely to re-enter above some unpopulated stretch of ocean, the satellite's final orbit does carry it over North America and eastern Europe where sky watchers might see it. There's no danger to anyone on the ground, says Prof. Gil Moore, the director of Project Starshine. We designed the satellite so that it will be 100% consumed about 80 km up. Except for a few small steel screws the body of the spacecraft is made entirely of aluminum--a substance that will vaporize during the bright and fiery descent. Visit spaceweather.com for more information about Starshine 3 as well as links to the latest re-entry predictions (they will improve between now and Tuesday) and photo tips, too! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Fragments May Be Scattered Across Colorado
http://www.montrosepress.com/display/inn_local_news/2.txt Fireball fragments may be scattered across county Greg Johnson Montrose Press (Colorado) December 7, 2002 MONTROSE -- A meteor that lit up the night sky Nov. 28 may have weighed up to a ton and broken up over western Colorado, researchers from the Denver Museum of Nature and Science have found. Montrose and Gunnison counties are likely locations to find meteorites from the meteor, which broke up while plummeting through the atmosphere, according to a report from the museum. The museum has been gathering data on the event, which produced hundreds of sightings and was captured by a camera atop Montrose High School. The eyewitness reports are especially helpful in determining the track of the fireball, said Jack Murphy, curator of geology and head of the museum's meteorite research team. Due to all the sightings lately, there's a curiosity factor that has prompted people to watch for meteors, and that will help our research. The meteor may have left more than a memory of a lifetime for Western Slope residents, Murphy said. The fireball may have scattered meteorites throughout Montrose and Gunnison counties. Researchers are determining the object's orbit through the solar system, the report says. Meteorites recovered after a big fireball such as this are found to originate from a parent body in the asteroid belt, a well-known region between Mars and Jupiter. The images captured at Montrose High School, which is part of the museum's All Sky network of cameras, show the meteor breaking up in the atmosphere about midway through its descent, the report says. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball
Hello List, I saw a nice fireball at 10:55 PM EST tonight (Friday, Dec. 6, 2002). I was near Elizabethton, TN when I saw it. From there it was in the Southeast. It came in at a steep angle traveling in a westerly direction. The color was basically green just before it reached extinction. Quite a thrilling sight! Thomas H. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Blazes Across Colorado Sky
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=newsarticle_path=/news/news021129_8.htm Fireball baffles residents Durango Herald (Colorado) November 29, 2002 A mysterious light, which may have been a meteorite, blazed across the sky in Durango on Thursday night. John Montle, 70, who lives north of Durango near Durango Mountain Resort, said he was driving home from Durango, when a flaming fireball shot vertically from the sky between 6:15 p.m. and 6:20 p.m. The light was also witnessed at The Durango Herald. It looked like it was going to hit Dalton Ranch, Montle said. At first I thought it was a plane burning up and coming down. Montle was on U.S. Highway 550 near the Val-Air Gliderport, a few miles north of Durango. An amateur astronomer, Montle said he believed the light was a meteorite because the flame moved extremely fast, turned green and appeared to break apart in the sky. But he added, I've seen a lot of meteorites, but I have not seen anything like this. The National Weather Service in Grand Junction had received two calls asking about a bright light in the sky, one from Garfield County, Colo., and the other from Utah, said Jim Daniels, a meteorologist. But the National Weather Service does not track or carry information on such accounts. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Spotted Over Norway?
Solberg noticed the object with a long, bright tail. The entire episode lasted about EIGHT minutes, with three minutes of it captured on tape, before the unidentified flying object disappeared from view. -- very curious... I would be very interested in knowing what the atmospheric conditions were at that time of day. Maybe there was a thin veil of ice crystals high aloft that formed a halo effect from a military aircraft with its approach lights turned on? But, what about the long, bright tail? Would love to see the video... Bob V. -Original Message- Subject: Fireball Spotted Over Norway? http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=442072 'UFO' spotted over Asker Aftenpoften (Norway) November 22, 2002 Helene Solberg glanced out her window on a dark wintry afternoon earlier this week and saw something she won't soon forget. Luckily, her family's video camera was close at hand. Solberg, who lives in a village with the same name in Asker, west of Oslo, first called her husband while marveling at the comet-like flying object that soared through the late afternoon sky. It was just after 2pm, when dusk already starts settling over southern Norway at this tiime of year, when Solberg noticed the object with a long, bright tail. She excitedly called her husband Stig Solberg, who reminded her that their video camera was lying on a table in the living room. Just the night before, the couple had tried to capture video of the Leonid meteor shower. Helene Solberg then grabbed the video camera and started shooting. The entire episode lasted about eight minutes, with three minutes of it captured on tape, before the unidentified flying object disappeared from view. Can I explain what it was? Absolutely not, Stig Solheim told Aftenposten's Internet edition Thursday night after sharing the video. He said he determined that the comet-like object came out of the west and disappeared to the south. He also sent the video to the astrophysics department at the University of Oslo, where a professor thought the object MIGHT have been a plane. Solheim disagrees. It absolutely did not look like a plane, he said. When we look out the window in the other direction, we sometimes see planes. But we have never seen a plane in the direction where my wife was filming. - End of Original Message -- __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball or Iridium Flash??
Forward Message - meteorobs-digest Tuesday, October 22 2002 Volume 04 : Number 1008 Fw: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 Fw: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 -- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:55:50 +0300 From: Grigorios Maravelias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: RE: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 Antoni, I guess we don't know if she was experienced enough! I have seen such a very bright iridium flash, and yes someone could call it as bright as the moon, but I could never confuse it to a meteor. Though, a couple of months ago there was a report to BAA of a very bright star (-4mag) appearing for a few seconds and then fading, from England. There where speculations of a very bright gamma-ray burst, but this turned out to be an iridium flash! I can't understand how the observer missed to see the satellite motion, but I guess he wasn't experienced enough... Petros ayiomamitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grigori, The time of observation was around sunset. The 2-3 second duration makes me wonder if she perhaps caught a satellite overhead pass. I doubt if it was the ISS since its visible passes are much greater than 2-3 seconds (more like 4-5 minutes) but iridium satellites do flare for a few seconds during early evening. As for the magnitude she notes (greater than the moon at -12.6 or thereabouts), it is in the vicinity for an iridium flare since these have a maximum magnitude of -8.5 or so and can appear really very bright depending on sky conditions. AA. -- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:56:20 +0300 From: Grigorios Maravelias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 - - Original Message - From: ayiomamitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:05 AM Subject: [Greek-Astronomy] - Re: Fw: (meteorobs) Fireball from Greece, October 8 Petro, The absence of a reference to possible sound, color and/or trail further suggests that it was not a meteor and most probably an iridium flare. Around sunrise and sunset, iridium flares exhibit a very specific flare pattern and I am almost convinced that this is what she saw. In fact, if I knew her coordinates and time of observation, I could get her the particular iridium satellite that flashed her. AA. -- End of meteorobs-digest V4 #1008 __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball?
Did it look sort of like a string of beads?? Rosie - Original Message - From: Tom / james Knudson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball? Hello List, I was taking the trash down tonight at 7:45 and noticed a large smoke trail or something. It did not look like a vapor trail from an airplane. I always look up, and have seen many a trails left by a plane. This looked different. It was one width the length of the Trail, and then it all started to spread out at the same time. Unlike a plane that would spread out at the end furthest from the plane. I live in Northern cal. and it was almost perfectly south to north. it looks to me it might of went to or came from S.F. So if any one hears of a fire ball report in N.Cal, please let me know. I have never seen a smoke trail from a fire ball so I might be way off, I don't know! Does this sound right? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball?
Hello List, I was taking the trash down tonight at 7:45 and noticed a large smoke trail or something. It did not look like a vapor trail from an airplane. I always look up, and have seen many a trails left by a plane. This looked different. It was one width the length of the Trail, and then it all started to spread out at the same time. Unlike a plane that would spread out at the end furthest from the plane. I live in Northern cal. and it was almost perfectly south to north. it looks to me it might of went to or came from S.F. So if any one hears of a fire ball report in N.Cal, please let me know. I have never seen a smoke trail from a fire ball so I might be way off, I don't know! Does this sound right? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball(?), Rhode Island USA, 10 Oct 2002
This report is about a fireball sighting that occurred 6 days ago: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy and Barry Sent: Tuesday, 15 October, 2002 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (IAAC) IAAC now accessible via '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'! Hi Lew I am glad I just received your update on the IAAC. I should have written to you last week about this to see if you heard or saw anything like what I saw last Thursday evening here in Rhode Island. I have written to all the Frosty Drew crew without out much reply and I also tried to start a message thread on SSA, but it seems they are involved in a lot of Off Topic stuff right now and my message went by pretty much unnoticed. Last Thursday evening I was outside talking with a couple of friends of mine at about 8:10 PM when there was a bright flash similar to lightning. It was so bright that the ground around us lit up. This in its self was amazing because we were standing in a brightly lit parking lot. I was lucky enough to be facing in the right direction when the flash caught our attention and I was able to look up to the sky to see what looked to be a large blue green meteor breaking in two, streaking across the sky. The approximate size of the meteor would have been a little smaller than the size of your thumb nail held at arms length. What was truly amazing was that up here in Southern New England we were completely covered by a 100% cloud cover. I am not sure the direction this object was traveling because I was in a section of town I seldom go to and was not sure of my orientation to the sky. My guess would be it was traveling from the North to the East. I was wondering if you heard anything about this meteor or piece of space junk. Thank you, Barry Martasian - Reply to Original Message - Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:17:56 -0400 From: Lew Gramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) Fireball(?), Rhode Island USA, 10 Oct 2002 20:10 Local No, Barry, yours is the first report I've heard of a very bright fireball over Rhode Island! Would you be able to provide more details? If so, PLEASE consider filling out the Web form at: http://www.namnmeteors.org/fireball/report.html I also encourage anyone else who may have sighted an event like this to submit a report as soon as you can afterward, before any details fade from your memory! (BTW, Barry, remember that 'visualdeepsky.org' and 'netastrocatalog' are mailing lists about the Deep Sky! Anything meteor-related is more appropriate to the OTHER list I run, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. :) Take care, and thanks for sending me the note! Lew Lew Gramer, IMO, NAMN, Webb Society, NDSOS, ATMoB, NSAAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webmaster: http://www.meteorobs.org Webmaster: http://www.visualdeepsky.org Assistant: http://www.namnmeteors.org - End of Reply - __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Flashes Across The Sky In England
http://iccoventry.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100localnews/page.cfm?objectid=12261512method=fullsiteid=50003 Fireball flashes across the sky October 7, 2002 People across Coventry and Warwickshire were among those who saw a fireball shoot across the sky early Sunday morning. Sightings were also reported along England's south coast and Wales. Coventry astronomer George Dunphy, aged 71, had been observing Jupiter and Saturn from his home in Wyken Avenue. He said: I decided to call it a day at about 5.30am and I crawled upstairs to go to bed. Just as I was opening the curtains, there was a great fireball that went across the sky. At first I thought it was probably a distress pistol from Coventry Airport and something had happened to an aircraft on the runway. It lasted between two and 2½ seconds and travelled in an arc across the sky from east to south-west. It was very vivid, like a red blue ball of fire - the biggest and brightest thing I have seen in the sky for 40 years. Andy Salmon, of the Birmingham Astronomical Society, said it may have been a meteor - space debris burning up in the atmosphere. He said: Meteors can happen at any time . . . there's no predicting when it may happen. Local aviation authorities confirmed the object was not aircraft-related. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Wows New Zealanders
http://asia.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/10/02/newzealand.fireball.ap/index.html Sky fireball wows New Zealanders Associated Press October 3, 2002 WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) -- A fireball that streaked through the skies of New Zealand, triggering hundreds of calls to police likely was debris from a satellite burning up in the atmosphere, astronomers said Wednesday. Police stations along North Island's east coast said callers reported the fireball spewing a trail of brightly colored sparks as it rocketed eastward. Richard Hall, an astronomer at Wellington's Carter Observatory, said the object likely was a chunk of space debris, perhaps from a satellite. One caller told him it shone like the headlamp of a large aircraft and then it brightened till it was about 100 times brighter than (the planet) Venus, Hall said. Then (he) talked about lumps coming off of it and all different colors appearing. Its low trajectory across the sky was similar to the track of a decaying satellite, and the fact that it threw off multicolored light also suggested space junk. Because ... an old satellite is made up of many components, as it burns it gives off lots of different colors, Hall said. Hall said the object probably crashed into the Pacific Ocean east of New Zealand. Space agencies often guide decaying space material like decommissioned satellites to a space junkyard in the South Pacific, but they rarely passed over New Zealand. In March last year, white hot fragments of the Mir space station illuminated the skies above Fiji before splashing down in the Pacific. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball !!!!
Hello List, I know some one on the list can help me with this one! Last night I took my family to the drive - in's here in Northern calif. I got out in the middle of the second movie about 11:30 pm to stretch my legs. A bright light caught my eye. I looked up and saw what i first thought was a Satellite traveling N. NE. It was a little higher than polaris. I love watching satellitesbut this one seemed a little deferent. It was traveling at what appeared to be the average speed for a satellite but it was brighter than normal (about like a bright venus) and it was orange with a tinge of yellow. After watching it for about 3 seconds it started to develop a short tail. It kept its short tail for the next 2 to 3 seconds when it finlly broke up into at lest eight pieces. The second it broke up it ended. It lasted about 6 to 8 seconds all together. I could not tell if it made any noise or not because It was a noise movie (XXX). Triple X was the name not the rating!! I have never seen a meteor with out a tail, then a short tail and going so slow? Also, why was it Orange?? Thanks, Tom MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball / Bolide Video Downloads
Good after list, Can anyone tell me how or where I can download either on 3.5 floppy or CD, video clips of bolides / fireballs? I have found a number of websites that have the Peekskill video clips, but my computer refuses to save the video. I'vetried using the: copy to, save as, send to options but they all are not highlighted. The videos when viewed seem to all be Quicktime, and are save at the site as as ampeg., but for the life of me I can't save anything. The only success I've had was saving the Moravke Fireball gif to Outlook Express, and even then I can't seem to save it to a floppy. Help. Thanks, Steven Sachs IMCA #9210 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball in Riverside calif.
Hi List, I was driving in Riverside ( 10:40 PM ) south when I saw a fireball coming from the North East moving towards the South East at about a 45 degree angle , I saw 1 very bright fireball for about 2 seconds then it split into 2 fireballs flowing 1 after the other less that 1 second after the split it went dark , it was still fairly high when it went dark. I have seen shooting stars before but I have never seen anything like this before, It seemed so close , I could not believe it.but in reality it was probably farther away than I think. I did not think to stop and listen for the explosion . as there was heavy road work going on where I was, If I did hear anything I thought it was the road workers. Has anybody else seen this ? I am sure it must have hit somewhere unless it went into the ocean. Best Regards To All , Steven Drummond "The Unknown Collector" :-)
[meteorite-list] Fireball Sighted Over Oklahoma
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=885061pic=noneTP=getarticle Authorities clueless about mysterious fireball The Associated Press July 9, 2002 HENRYETTA - Police said today they still don't know what to make of more than 20 reports of a mysterious fireball in the sky. Henryetta Police Chief Audie Cole said his officers have exhausted their investigation into the object, which streaked through the sky for about 10 to 15 seconds Saturday night. Two minutes later, residents felt the tremors of an explosion. From what they tell me, it was a pretty good boom, the chief said. The officers have done everything they could do. Officers checked on planes at the airport and Tinker Air Force Base. They even looked into whether there had been a major truck accident on Interstate 40 that threw something into the air. There was no such accident and none of the ideas got them any answers, Cole said. About 20 people called police Saturday night to report the flying object, which some said had a flaming blue tail. When we first saw it we thought it was a missile, said Henryetta resident Shirley Brown. It had a blue flame and a red flame coming out of the back. It was like a comet, but it was metal. Other residents called the Okmulgee County Sheriff's Office. Six people called with reports of a large missile-type object with large flames flying across the sky, Okmulgee County Undersheriff Eddy Rice said. Authorities said they have no clue where the object landed. There is nowhere to even start, Rice said. Usually people are pretty good about calling if they see smoke, and we haven't had anyone call to report that. The chief said the projectile likely was flying 10 miles south of Henryetta. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball or just space junk over Bavaria ?
Hi List, there are some hints for a possible meteorite fall over Southern Germany. More than 50 people from Bavaria reported light- and sound phenomenalate on Saturday. NASA says it was not related to the reentry of a US-/Argentinian satelite predicted for early Sunday. Bernd: Some more information about this event? It's close to your backyard... Regards, Reiner Sonntag 7. April 2002, 11:04 UhrMysteriöse Nachtlichter: Komet oder «Feuerball-Bolide» vermutet München/Washington (dpa) - Ein mysteriöses Himmelsspektakel hat am späten Samstagabend in Bayern für helle Aufregung gesorgt. Der Schwerpunkt der rätselhaften Lichtblitze war Südbayern. Allein bei den Behörden in Garmisch-Partenkirchen gingen rund 50 Anrufe ein. «Es gab mehrere Blitze, und sogar die Fenster haben geklirrt», beschrieb ein Polizeisprecher das ungewöhnliche Ereignis. Experten waren am Sonntag uneins über die Deutung des Phänomens: So vermutete der Deutsche Wetterdienst in Offenbach, es habe sich um einen Kometen gehandelt. Ein Mannheimer Ufo-Experte ging von einem «Feuerball- Boliden» aus. Nach Polizeiangaben meldeten sich von etwa 22.00 Uhr bis zum Sonntagmorgen zahlreiche besorgte Bürger bei Polizeidienststellen in Oberbayern, Schwaben, Franken und der Oberpfalz. Die Anrufer hätten von Lichtblitzen und Donnergrollen berichtet. Auch in Augsburg und Regensburg schlugen besorgte Bürger Alarm. Am Münchner Flughafen wurde im Bereich der Südbahn ebenfalls eine Lichterscheinung beobachtet. Ein Mitarbeiter des Flughafens sei zu der Landebahn gefahren, um nach möglichen Spuren zu suchen. Er habe jedoch nichts gefunden, berichtete eine Flughafen-Sprecherin. Der Wetterbeobachter auf Deutschlands höchstem Berg, der 2964 Meter hohen Zugspitze, beobachtete drei Lichtblitze gesehen. Einen zunächst vermuteten Zusammenhang mit einem von der NASA angekündigten Wiedereintritt von Weltraummüll in die Erdatmosphäre schloss die US-Raumfahrtbehörde am Sonntag aus. Die NASA hatte angekündigt, dass Überbleibsel der 1996 gescheiterten amerikanisch- argentinischen Satellitenmission HETE am Sonntagmorgen unkontrolliert auf die Erde stürzen würden. Allerdings wurde erwartet, dass lediglich 4 Batterien mit einem Gewicht von 15 Kilogramm die Erde erreichen könnten. Der Zeitpunkt für den Wiedereintritt war für 6.00 Uhr MESZ am Sonntag berechnet worden. Genauere Angaben gab es zunächst jedoch nicht, teilte die NASA mit. Die Hintergründe für das ungewöhnliche Lichtspektakel am nächtlichen Himmel über Bayern waren am Sonntag noch unklar. «Das Wetter ist sicherlich nicht die Ursache», sagte ein Meteorologe des Deutschen Wetterdienstes (DWD) in München. «Die einzige Möglichkeit wäre Polarlicht, aber das ist sehr unwahrscheinlich.» Die DWD- Zentrale in Offenbach schloss auch einen Zusammenhang mit dem Kometen «Ikeya-Zhang» nicht aus. Er sei zur Zeit regelmäßig in der Morgendämmerung zu sehen. Eine andere Erklärung lieferte die Mannheimer Ufo-Meldestelle: Die Lichtblitze seien vermutlich auf einen «Feuerball-Boliden» zurückzuführen. Dabei handele es sich um eine Art «megagroßen Bruder der Sternschnuppe», der in flacher Bahn in die Erdoberfläche eingetreten und dann in mehrere Einzelteile zerbrochen sei, sagte Ufo-Experte Werner Walter. Solche Erscheinungen seien keinesfalls selten, betonte der Experte. http://de.news.yahoo.com/020407/3/2prku.html
[meteorite-list] fireball sighting from Southern California
Last night at 8:47pm PST, myself and a friend witnessed a large blue fireball while star gazing on Mt. Laguna at an altitude of 6000ft. It became visible at 75 degree up from North/ Northwest horizon and became an intense blue-white fireball with sparks of light at 30 degrees then disappeared. It appeared to radiate from the constellation Cepheus. It appeared to be about a -2 magnitude, brighter than Sirius. Did anyone else see it? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
