Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT?
Dear List Members. It seems there is some confusion on the comments I made in regards to the NWA 5K display ring. The image that Steve C. used was a picture of the real deal that Russ F. posted to his website with permission. I took all images of NWA 5K off of my web space for a couple of years because a few others were using them without permission or for less than honorable purposes. Several quality people ask me to put them back up so I did and what I feared happened again. Some less than honest people have used these images for the following purposes: Had a Moroccan (Mohamed S.) dealer show up at the Tucson show and claim he had an 18 kilogram pairing a week after we announced it, The so-called pairing turned out to be a much more common Eucrite that did not look anything like NWA 5K once cut. He was trying to find a sucker at the show to buy it even though a scientist at the show told him there is no doubt whatsoever that what he had wasn't even close to being a lunar meteorite, let alone NWA 5K . There has been three instances that I know of that other groups fabricated their own version of the patent pending display ring and tried to take credit away from the original design team by not acknowledging them. One bold con-artist from the United Kingdom used images and my description of a large slice taken from eBay to try to sell a piece that he or she did not own or could even produce once it was paid for. Our team came up with an idea about a Jules Vern line of watches that would showcase a piece of NWA 5K into time pieces and promoted our plans to a French watch-making company only to have them steal our idea and integrate an ugly and much cheaper piece of black characterless Dhofar into it. They copied the port idea (display ring) which reminded of us of Jules Vern and made a miniature version on the side of their watches. It is too bad this multi-billion dollar concern has to steal ideas from the small guys and take full credit for it. We learned our lesson and will never deal with a company like this again without a lawyer present. Had fellow from the Philippines claim he had a piece of NWA 5K for sale even though he did not own any. He used images of the real deal in order to find a terrestrial rock that he thought was somewhat similar. And now we have Steve C. claiming to be the first to find Lunar meteorites on the North American continent and guess what; He has found a terrestrial breccia which is lying around everywhere in Colorado and claims to have found the American equivalent to NWA 5K. He wonders why scientist will not waste their time with his finds. Perhaps, if his finds showed signs of a fusion crust, flight markings, shock melt, metal and encased Helium 3 bubbles he might have something but he used images and what he saw on TV to make his invalid assessments. I have spent over 3,200 hours (I know this figure sounds unbelievable but I keep track) managing NWA 5K and do not appreciate anybody with less than honorable intentions interfering with this ongoing project. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 7:57:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT? It is interesting that many have tried to copy the custom and patent pending display ring for the complete slice of NWA 5000 and now others are trying to copy the stone itself. In the case of the display ring, it has held a vacuum since it was manufactured to aerospace standards, even after traveling around the world while promoting science. A master machinist with decades of experience building components for weather satellites built the original so good luck to those who can not come up with their own ideas. Copycats may be able to imitate it but will never achieve the level of workmanship integrated into this one-of-kind display system that was built to last at least a 1,000 years. Imitation is supposed to be a form of flattery but for some reason I am more disappointed than flattered. Having idiots piggyback off of my hard work is nothing short of distasteful and in some cases fraudulent or should I say flatulent. Adam - Original Message From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT? Hi all, I just received the post below - I assume many Of you did. Is this guy a nut job or what? -- For those still in doubt as to the existence of Lunar meteorites in North America, please examine our Western Colorado version of the famous NWA 5000. I realize, too, that many scientists refuse to acknowledge photography as a viable component for authentication verification, which leads to these questions. What is a thin section? What is a petrographic analysis? How are genuine meteorites authenticated
Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT?
Hi all, I just received the post below - I assume many Of you did. Is this guy a nut job or what? -- For those still in doubt as to the existence of Lunar meteorites in North America, please examine our Western Colorado version of the famous NWA 5000. I realize, too, that many scientists refuse to acknowledge photography as a viable component for authentication verification, which leads to these questions. What is a thin section? What is a petrographic analysis? How are genuine meteorites authenticated on the internet Ebay? If the images in the following link are fakes, who is responsible? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying NWA 5000? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying ALH 84001? What Apollo sample was used to authenticate NWA 5000 ALH 84001? http://www.meteoritecollector.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1313 Cheers! Steve -- Anyone familiar with this guy? Michael -- Life is too short for drama petty things, Laugh insanely, Love truly and Forgive quickly. -- People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Maya Angelou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT?
I get crap like this all day long. It's gotten where I typically refuse to answer any email as If I do - this follows! yes, he has sent me pretty much the same email. I just ignore, ignore.. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Hi all, I just received the post below - I assume many Of you did. Is this guy a nut job or what? -- For those still in doubt as to the existence of Lunar meteorites in North America, please examine our Western Colorado version of the famous NWA 5000. I realize, too, that many scientists refuse to acknowledge photography as a viable component for authentication verification, which leads to these questions. What is a thin section? What is a petrographic analysis? How are genuine meteorites authenticated on the internet Ebay? If the images in the following link are fakes, who is responsible? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying NWA 5000? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying ALH 84001? What Apollo sample was used to authenticate NWA 5000 ALH 84001? http://www.meteoritecollector.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1313 Cheers! Steve -- Anyone familiar with this guy? Michael -- Life is too short for drama petty things, Laugh insanely, Love truly and Forgive quickly. -- People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Maya Angelou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT?
It is interesting that many have tried to copy the custom and patent pending display ring for the complete slice of NWA 5000 and now others are trying to copy the stone itself. In the case of the display ring, it has held a vacuum since it was manufactured to aerospace standards, even after traveling around the world while promoting science. A master machinist with decades of experience building components for weather satellites built the original so good luck to those who can not come up with their own ideas. Copycats may be able to imitate it but will never achieve the level of workmanship integrated into this one-of-kind display system that was built to last at least a 1,000 years. Imitation is supposed to be a form of flattery but for some reason I am more disappointed than flattered. Having idiots piggyback off of my hard work is nothing short of distasteful and in some cases fraudulent or should I say flatulent. Adam - Original Message From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT? Hi all, I just received the post below - I assume many Of you did. Is this guy a nut job or what? -- For those still in doubt as to the existence of Lunar meteorites in North America, please examine our Western Colorado version of the famous NWA 5000. I realize, too, that many scientists refuse to acknowledge photography as a viable component for authentication verification, which leads to these questions. What is a thin section? What is a petrographic analysis? How are genuine meteorites authenticated on the internet Ebay? If the images in the following link are fakes, who is responsible? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying NWA 5000? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying ALH 84001? What Apollo sample was used to authenticate NWA 5000 ALH 84001? http://www.meteoritecollector.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1313 Cheers! Steve -- Anyone familiar with this guy? Michael -- Life is too short for drama petty things, Laugh insanely, Love truly and Forgive quickly. -- People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Maya Angelou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT?
Michael, This guy is a pain in the ass for everyone in Colorado. Just ask Blaine. Dan Wray COMETS - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Say WHAT? Hi all, I just received the post below - I assume many Of you did. Is this guy a nut job or what? -- For those still in doubt as to the existence of Lunar meteorites in North America, please examine our Western Colorado version of the famous NWA 5000. I realize, too, that many scientists refuse to acknowledge photography as a viable component for authentication verification, which leads to these questions. What is a thin section? What is a petrographic analysis? How are genuine meteorites authenticated on the internet Ebay? If the images in the following link are fakes, who is responsible? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying NWA 5000? What universities were involved in authenticating classifying ALH 84001? What Apollo sample was used to authenticate NWA 5000 ALH 84001? http://www.meteoritecollector.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1313 Cheers! Steve -- Anyone familiar with this guy? Michael -- Life is too short for drama petty things, Laugh insanely, Love truly and Forgive quickly. -- People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Maya Angelou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Say What??
Hi all, As has been mentioned before the strange dialect below is due to Matteo using a software translator to translate his Italian to English. It cannot handle his colloquialism's. I would suggest (again as has been mentioned before) that Matteo : 1) upgrade his translator software then test the translations. 2) use plain English to avoid the strange translations of his colloquialism's. If Matteo is unable to do the above I would further suggest he stops posting to the list due to the confusion he causes. I am not putting Matteo down here, but, he could with a little effort, implement simple practical steps that would go a long way to stop the recurring issues not only to his benefit but also to everyone on this list. Regards Ken O'Neill IMCA #9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 04:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Say What?? build for you a similar Tom Idiot site therefore then you laugh of taste Does anyone have a clue as to the subliminal message above? I'm still working on, Fairies still the smiles and the struck ones __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Say What??
I not have problems, if the persons want I put in italian and after who wants translate it in English Regards Matteo --- Ken O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, As has been mentioned before the strange dialect below is due to Matteo using a software translator to translate his Italian to English. It cannot handle his colloquialism's. I would suggest (again as has been mentioned before) that Matteo : 1) upgrade his translator software then test the translations. 2) use plain English to avoid the strange translations of his colloquialism's. If Matteo is unable to do the above I would further suggest he stops posting to the list due to the confusion he causes. I am not putting Matteo down here, but, he could with a little effort, implement simple practical steps that would go a long way to stop the recurring issues not only to his benefit but also to everyone on this list. Regards Ken O'Neill IMCA #9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 04:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Say What?? build for you a similar Tom Idiot site therefore then you laugh of taste Does anyone have a clue as to the subliminal message above? I'm still working on, Fairies still the smiles and the struck ones __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Say What??
I not have problems!!! Ok, unbelievable. I'm done. I can't tolerate one more comment from this character. It's me. I'm crazy. I surrender to the Italian brain police!! I not have problems, if the persons want I put in italian and after who wants translate it in English Regards Matteo --- Ken O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, As has been mentioned before the strange dialect below is due to Matteo using a software translator to translate his Italian to English. It cannot handle his colloquialism's. I would suggest (again as has been mentioned before) that Matteo : 1) upgrade his translator software then test the translations. 2) use plain English to avoid the strange translations of his colloquialism's. If Matteo is unable to do the above I would further suggest he stops posting to the list due to the confusion he causes. I am not putting Matteo down here, but, he could with a little effort, implement simple practical steps that would go a long way to stop the recurring issues not only to his benefit but also to everyone on this list. Regards Ken O'Neill IMCA #9465 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2003 04:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Say What?? build for you a similar Tom Idiot site therefore then you laugh of taste Does anyone have a clue as to the subliminal message above? I'm still working on, Fairies still the smiles and the struck ones __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
