Re: [Mikrotik] VPN Questions

2008-05-06 Thread Butch Evans

On Mon, 5 May 2008, Mike Hammett wrote:


Perfect Forward Secrecy they have yes and no.


Mikrotik does not support PFS.

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[Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Smith


I've got a customer with a VOIP server (Altigen) inside a Mikrotik router 
(3.0beta5 for various reasons)

Let's say outside IP is 1.1.1.1 - internal is 192.168.15.1

All internal phones have 192.168.15.x addresses, remote phones in various 
places with various IP's.

Remote phone connects to public IP, gets dst-nat'd to 192.168.15.250 (Altigen 
server IP).  They have several publics on this router - we picked one and just 
dst-nat'd the whole public - internal

When the phone server gets the connection from the remote IP, it sees 
192.168.15.1 as the incoming IP, and it can't talk to the remote phone because 
the phone server's expecting the public IP (according to the dealer on-site)

No matter what I do, I can't get the public IP to appear on the internal 
network as the source address.  I'm pretty sure that's the way NAT is SUPPOSED 
to work - but of course they're telling me that Altigen works just fine with 
every other router in the world and they've never had this problem with 
sonicwall or ciscos

What to do? What to do.

R
PS...we do dst-nat'ing on another public, straight to a webserver inhouse, and 
it works great, although the logs on the server say 192.168.15.1 is requesting 
the page...

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Re: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Smith

btw... they're running H323, not SIP...

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I've got a customer with a VOIP server (Altigen) inside a Mikrotik router 
(3.0beta5 for various reasons)

Let's say outside IP is 1.1.1.1 - internal is 192.168.15.1

All internal phones have 192.168.15.x addresses, remote phones in various 
places with various IP's.

Remote phone connects to public IP, gets dst-nat'd to 192.168.15.250 (Altigen 
server IP).  They have several publics on this router - we picked one and just 
dst-nat'd the whole public - internal

When the phone server gets the connection from the remote IP, it sees 
192.168.15.1 as the incoming IP, and it can't talk to the remote phone because 
the phone server's expecting the public IP (according to the dealer on-site)

No matter what I do, I can't get the public IP to appear on the internal 
network as the source address.  I'm pretty sure that's the way NAT is SUPPOSED 
to work - but of course they're telling me that Altigen works just fine with 
every other router in the world and they've never had this problem with 
sonicwall or ciscos

What to do? What to do.

R
PS...we do dst-nat'ing on another public, straight to a webserver inhouse, and 
it works great, although the logs on the server say 192.168.15.1 is requesting 
the page...

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Re: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?

2008-05-06 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 6 May 2008, Rick Smith wrote:

When the phone server gets the connection from the remote IP, it 
sees 192.168.15.1 as the incoming IP, and it can't talk to the 
remote phone because the phone server's expecting the public IP 
(according to the dealer on-site)


This should be correct.

No matter what I do, I can't get the public IP to appear on the 
internal network as the source address.  I'm pretty sure that's the 
way NAT is SUPPOSED to work - but of course they're telling me that 
Altigen works just fine with every other router in the world and 
they've never had this problem with sonicwall or ciscos


I'd bet you have a rule in src-nat that is affecting this traffic. 
Just my guess, but I bet you have a rule that looks similar to:


/ip firewall nat
add chain=srcnat action=masquerade

If you export all rules in nat and post them (or private email if 
you prefer), we can offer further input.


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Re: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?

2008-05-06 Thread Terri Kelley
I haven't messed with H323 but have SIP and asterisk phone server. I  
know in that case you have to set both the phone (or it auto detects)  
for nat and for the phone to use the public ip on their end. On the  
server you set the entry for that phone for nat also.

Maybe that helps some.

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On May 6, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Rick Smith wrote:


 btw... they're running H323, not SIP...

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rick Smith
 Sent: Tue 5/6/2008 8:54 AM
 To: Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
 Subject: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?


 I've got a customer with a VOIP server (Altigen) inside a Mikrotik  
 router (3.0beta5 for various reasons)

 Let's say outside IP is 1.1.1.1 - internal is 192.168.15.1

 All internal phones have 192.168.15.x addresses, remote phones in  
 various places with various IP's.

 Remote phone connects to public IP, gets dst-nat'd to 192.168.15.250  
 (Altigen server IP).  They have several publics on this router - we  
 picked one and just dst-nat'd the whole public - internal

 When the phone server gets the connection from the remote IP, it  
 sees 192.168.15.1 as the incoming IP, and it can't talk to the  
 remote phone because the phone server's expecting the public IP  
 (according to the dealer on-site)

 No matter what I do, I can't get the public IP to appear on the  
 internal network as the source address.  I'm pretty sure that's the  
 way NAT is SUPPOSED to work - but of course they're telling me that  
 Altigen works just fine with every other router in the world and  
 they've never had this problem with sonicwall or ciscos

 What to do? What to do.

 R
 PS...we do dst-nat'ing on another public, straight to a webserver  
 inhouse, and it works great, although the logs on the server say  
 192.168.15.1 is requesting the page...

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Re: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?

2008-05-06 Thread Casey Mills
I had something very similar happen a few months ago with SIP.  I was using

analog phone - Grandstream HT-286 #1 - Linksys router - Internet
- Tik Router - Local network with Asterisk server and internal
HT-286s.

I ran torch when trying to get adapter #1 to connect to the Asterisk
server.  The request came into the * server just fine, the reponse for
some reason was trying to leave the internal Tik router network with
the internal IP of the #1 adapter.  That just does not work.  Luckily
there was a place to add a STUN server.
http://www.freeworlddialup.com/ has a public STUN server you can use.
It helped adapter #1 figure out what kind of firewall it was behind
along with the public IP of the above Linksys router.

Casey



On 5/6/08, Terri Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't messed with H323 but have SIP and asterisk phone server. I
 know in that case you have to set both the phone (or it auto detects)
 for nat and for the phone to use the public ip on their end. On the
 server you set the entry for that phone for nat also.

 Maybe that helps some.

 Terri Kelley
 Network Engineer
 254-697-6710



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 On May 6, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Rick Smith wrote:

 
  btw... they're running H323, not SIP...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rick Smith
  Sent: Tue 5/6/2008 8:54 AM
  To: Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
  Subject: [Mikrotik] VOIP server seeing internal address ?
 
 
  I've got a customer with a VOIP server (Altigen) inside a Mikrotik
  router (3.0beta5 for various reasons)
 
  Let's say outside IP is 1.1.1.1 - internal is 192.168.15.1
 
  All internal phones have 192.168.15.x addresses, remote phones in
  various places with various IP's.
 
  Remote phone connects to public IP, gets dst-nat'd to 192.168.15.250
  (Altigen server IP).  They have several publics on this router - we
  picked one and just dst-nat'd the whole public - internal
 
  When the phone server gets the connection from the remote IP, it
  sees 192.168.15.1 as the incoming IP, and it can't talk to the
  remote phone because the phone server's expecting the public IP
  (according to the dealer on-site)
 
  No matter what I do, I can't get the public IP to appear on the
  internal network as the source address.  I'm pretty sure that's the
  way NAT is SUPPOSED to work - but of course they're telling me that
  Altigen works just fine with every other router in the world and
  they've never had this problem with sonicwall or ciscos
 
  What to do? What to do.
 
  R
  PS...we do dst-nat'ing on another public, straight to a webserver
  inhouse, and it works great, although the logs on the server say
  192.168.15.1 is requesting the page...
 
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[Mikrotik] routing a particular src ip

2008-05-06 Thread Terri Kelley
Is there a way to route a particular source/destination ip to a  
different next hop router rather than the default gateway?
In other words if there is traffic from many IP addresses running  
through a tik to a default ip. Lets say that 123.123.123.3 needs to  
default that same direction.
But if traffic from 123.123.123.3 is going to 456.456.456.6 then I  
need to send it on through a different router than the default.

Thanks

Terri Kelley
Network Engineer
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