[Mimedefang] backing up quarantine dir, ridiculously long awk script

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers
Directions:
change to quarantine dir.
backs each day to seperate tar.bz2.
pipe through bash to run.
works well enough for me.

awk command:
 ls | awk -F- '{print tar cjpf  $1-$2-$3-$4.tar.bz2 
$1-$2-$3-$4*}'|sort -u |head -n 1


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[Mimedefang] MIME::Parser: can't open tmpfile: Invalid argument

2004-06-29 Thread Andrew Pollock
Hi,

I'm rebuilding my primary MX, and I've been trialling MIMEDefang on my
secondary MX. So I duplicated the bulk of the config from my secondary MX to
my (yet to be commissioned) new primary MX.

I get the following:

mimedefang-multiplexor: Starting slave 0 (pid 3075) (1 running): About to perform scan
mimedefang-multiplexor: Slave 0 stderr: MIME::Parser: can't open tmpfile: Invalid 
argument
mimedefang-multiplexor: Slave 0 died prematurely -- check your filter rules
mimedefang[1871]: Error from multiplexor: ERR No response from slave
sm-mta[3062]: i5T7K1sb003062: Milter: data, reject=451 4.7.1 Please try again later

Google has shown a couple of previous instances on this list, but my setup
doesn't seem to be the same as these previous problems.

I can't work out how to crank out some more debugging, which is what I
ideally want to do.

I'm running MIMEDefang 2.41 and Sendmail 8.12.11 (on both the secondary MX,
which works, and the new primary MX, which exhibits the above).

mimedefang.pl -test is happy
mimedefang.pl -structure doesn't complain
mimedefang.pl -prettyprint spits back an email message if I give it one

So I don't feel that there is anything wrong with my mimedefang-filter (as
it's the same as the one that works on my secondary MX). A big difference
was a 2.6 kernel, as the primary is running 2.6.6 and the secondary 2.4.26,
so I booted into a 2.4.26 kernel on the primary MX and the problem
persisted, so it's not some bizarre tempfile problem.

I guess the next step is an uber strace...

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

regards

Andrew
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Re: [Mimedefang] Sendmail mailertable question

2004-06-29 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/28/2004 07:19:53 
PM:

 Try using it with quotes around the custom SMTP response string:

Bizarre!  The books sendmail and sendmail Cookbook do not indicate the 
need for the quotes.  Neither does the documnetation at 
http:/sendmail.org.

But I tried it anyways and you were right on the money.

eriecc.wnyric.org  error:5.1.2:550 This domain no longer accepts email

produced:

550 5.1.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... This domain no longer accepts email

Thanks for the help!
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Re: [Mimedefang] I would like to discard all on a recipient basis

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers
Why not just to a reject in the access list, that has the effect of
discard, but notifies the sender.

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Re: [Mimedefang] Greylisting code, now with mysql Backend

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers

Jonas Eckerman said:
 On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:49:34 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:

  I know my next question is pretty open ended, but what do people
  on this list prefer for their backend database, and why?
 [Jonas said snip, db-file works for me.]

I'm unsure why you are suffering corruption in your db_file.
I have been using db_file greylist for month's with never any corruption.
I'm using my implementation of greylisting, but that seems irrelevant, as
Jonas's implementation is working fine for him.
Do you have:
an older version of sa,db_file or bad disks, or high mail load?

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Re: [Mimedefang] Internet Virus hits IIS

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, June 28, 2004 10:59 AM -0400 Joseph Brennan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone have a clue what the bad code is, so we could reject mail
containing it?
I believe the issue is that IE ignores MIME type inconsistently when 
deciding what to do with web content. The hostile website hosts a file with 
a graphic filename extension (eg. .jpg or .gif) but the file is actually 
HTML with hostile JavaScript capable of downloading and running an 
executable. IE interprets the HTML, runs the JS and trojans the machine.

I recall bitching at one webmaster last year because his traceroute script 
output HTML but without a text/html MIME type, and Mozilla displayed the 
source, not the desired output. The script had obviously been tested only 
with IE, which helpfully interpreted the HTML because it had HTML tags in 
it.

To effectively block, you'd need to block all links with graphic extensions.
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[Mimedefang] Stripping received lines

2004-06-29 Thread Kenneth Porter
I've got a colo'd server in Cogent address space that can't send mail to 
members at Road Runner addresses, presumably due to the Cogent black list. 
In the past I've successfully bounced the mail off my office server using 
mailertable entries but RR now recognizes the original source. I'm guessing 
that it now rejects mail with any Received lines in Cogent space, so I'd 
like to strip those before forwarding them on. Does anyone have code to 
strip such lines? Or can you suggest a better solution?
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Re: [Mimedefang] Greylisting code, now with mysql Backend

2004-06-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
on 6/29/04 9:49 AM, Lucas Albers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Jonas Eckerman said:
 On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:49:34 -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 
   I know my next question is pretty open ended, but what do people
   on this list prefer for their backend database, and why?
 [Jonas said snip, db-file works for me.]
 
 I'm unsure why you are suffering corruption in your db_file.
 I have been using db_file greylist for month's with never any corruption.
 I'm using my implementation of greylisting, but that seems irrelevant, as
 Jonas's implementation is working fine for him.
 Do you have:
 an older version of sa,db_file or bad disks, or high mail load?

If you were directing that question to me, I am not currently experiencing
any database corruption.  But, there has been some talk of database
corruption on this list.  I was trying to figure out if there is a better
alternative to db_file with some of the corruption that has been mentioned.
If many people are doing fine with db_file, then I might just stay with it.

Jeff
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Re: [Mimedefang] Internet Virus hits IIS

2004-06-29 Thread Joseph Brennan

To effectively block, you'd need to block all links with graphic
extensions.

Cool!!!
Well, I don't think the user community here is ready... yet.
Joseph Brennan
Academic Technologies Group, Academic Information Systems (AcIS)
Columbia University in the City of New York
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Re: [Mimedefang] Internet Virus hits IIS

2004-06-29 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/28/2004 08:14:52 
PM:
 
 I believe the issue is that IE ignores MIME type inconsistently when 
 deciding what to do with web content. The hostile website hosts a file 
with 
 a graphic filename extension (eg. .jpg or .gif) but the file is actually 

 HTML with hostile JavaScript capable of downloading and running an 
 executable. IE interprets the HTML, runs the JS and trojans the machine.
 
 I recall bitching at one webmaster last year because his traceroute 
script 
 output HTML but without a text/html MIME type, and Mozilla displayed the 

 source, not the desired output. The script had obviously been tested 
only 
 with IE, which helpfully interpreted the HTML because it had HTML tags 
in 
 it.
 
 To effectively block, you'd need to block all links with graphic 
extensions.

I recall a similar discussion here about Outlook doing the same thing with 
attachments, ie. ignoring the extension and opening based on the contents 
of the file.  In fact even in Windows Explorer, this can be don by 
renaming a .DOC file to .XYZ, and then doubleclicking on it. 

My goal is to nuke WinXP on this laptop, put Linux and Crossover Office on 
it so I can run Lotus Notes to get rid of as much microsloth softwarre ass 
possible.
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Re: [Mimedefang] Greylisting code, now with mysql Backend

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers

Jeff Grossman said:
 [better] alternative to db_file with some of the corruption that has been
 mentioned.
 If many people are doing fine with db_file, then I might just stay with
Well it's used as the native bayesian db format for SA, and their has not
been complaints of corruption on the SA mailing list...
I would think theoretically a database format would have less possible
corruption.

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Re: [Mimedefang] MIMEDefang embedded perl stability issues

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers

Chris Gauch said:
 The embedded perl interpreter definitely minimizes the memory usage by the
 MD slaves, but I don't really notice an overall improvement in total
 memory
 usage when using the embedded perl option.  All 1.5GB of RAM is still used
 up entirely, and I have the same number of min/max slaves that I used when
I went over this item a few month's ago.
It uses less memory but does not show using less memory, depending on how
ou measure memory used.

 I
 was not using the embedded perl interpreter.  I also use a RAM disk for
 the
 /var/spool/MIMEDefang directory, and have that set at 128MB.  Maybe I'm
 doing something wrong here, but I haven't found much documentation on the
 embedded perl interpreter, other than it improves throughput and reduces
 memory usage.

 Any insight would be appreciated.
What OS and version of perl are you using.
I would reccomend you use at least 5.8 if you are using the embedded perl
version.
How many slaves do you run?
What is your mail volume?
What is your max message size you accept?

Could you add some delay to your cron jobs, so they don't all start at the
same time?
What is your maximum sendmail processes?

The embedded perl should decrease memory usage, and increase startup time
on pre-forked slaves.

I noticed signifigant memory savings on my 6 slave system.
Do you have a decent amount of memory in reserve, or are you generally
allocating all of your memory?



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Re: [Mimedefang] MIMEDefang embedded perl stability issues

2004-06-29 Thread Lucas Albers
duh,
didn't see any of the previous posts, until just now.

I guess I never do a reread, always a restart, that would explain why I
never saw the error.

Dave,
Should the default mimedefang-filter have use strict in it, in the
default install?
Would that solve some problems?

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RE: [Mimedefang] Greylisting code, now with mysql Backend

2004-06-29 Thread Lee Dilkie
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Jeff Grossman said:
 [better] alternative to db_file with some of the corruption 
that has been
 mentioned.
 If many people are doing fine with db_file, then I might 
just stay with
Well it's used as the native bayesian db format for SA, and 
their has not
been complaints of corruption on the SA mailing list...

I've had tons of problems with db_file corruption. In fact, I'm in the middle of 
trying to fix my own greylisting db_file corruption problem. I also have a db_file 
problem somewhere in graphdefang, although it's using MLDBM with db_file.

My problems arose when freebsd updated from perl 5.8.2(.3?) to 5.8.4 last month. My SA 
db got blown away. db_file that I had previously seems to have gotten replaced by 
bsdpan-DB_File, a version from cspan.

AFAICT, SA is working but I'm definately having problem with db_file in my greylisting 
and in graphdefang.

-lee


I would think theoretically a database format would have less possible
corruption.

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Re: [Mimedefang] MIMEDefang embedded perl stability issues

2004-06-29 Thread Martin Blapp

Hi,

 Should the default mimedefang-filter have use strict in it, in the
 default install?
 Would that solve some problems?

It can fix some unpropper written code which makes troubles in the
reload szenario ...

Martin
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Re: [Mimedefang] MIME::Parser: can't open tmpfile: Invalid argument (solved)

2004-06-29 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 05:45:14PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm rebuilding my primary MX, and I've been trialling MIMEDefang on my
 secondary MX. So I duplicated the bulk of the config from my secondary MX to
 my (yet to be commissioned) new primary MX.
 
 I get the following:
 
 mimedefang-multiplexor: Starting slave 0 (pid 3075) (1 running): About to perform 
 scan
 mimedefang-multiplexor: Slave 0 stderr: MIME::Parser: can't open tmpfile: Invalid 
 argument
 mimedefang-multiplexor: Slave 0 died prematurely -- check your filter rules
 mimedefang[1871]: Error from multiplexor: ERR No response from slave
 sm-mta[3062]: i5T7K1sb003062: Milter: data, reject=451 4.7.1 Please try again later
 

[snip]

Judicious stracing to the rescue. It highlighted the fact that my /tmp
directory had totally bogus owners and permissions, which I fixed, solving
the problem.

regards

Andrew
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RE: [Mimedefang] MIMEDefang embedded perl stability issues

2004-06-29 Thread Matthew . van . Eerde
 From: Martin Blapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Should the default mimedefang-filter have use strict in it, in the
default install?
  Would that solve some problems?
 
 It can fix some unpropper written code which makes troubles in the
 reload szenario ...

*ALL* production Perl code should live under use strict - or have a very
good reason why not!
I almost wish
use strict;
was the default, and could only be turned off by a specific
no strict;
with a mandatory
# turning off stricture because (can't think of a reason right now...)

To use strict or not use strict is the subject of an ongoing religious war.
Flame me at will. :)

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[Mimedefang]

2004-06-29 Thread Shawn Button
How do I set up auto-whitelisting in SA when running mimedefang? I uncommented
the lines in my mimedefang-filter but it seems like I should do something to my
sa-mimedefang.cf.
 
I have SA 2.63 and mimedefang 2.39
 
Thanks much,

Shawn 

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Re: [Mimedefang] Sendmail mailertable question

2004-06-29 Thread Mike Batchelor
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:44:28 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/28/2004 07:19:53
 PM:
 
  Try using it with quotes around the custom SMTP response string:
 
 Bizarre!  The books sendmail and sendmail Cookbook do not indicate the
 need for the quotes.  Neither does the documnetation at
 http:/sendmail.org.
 
 But I tried it anyways and you were right on the money.

I can't take credit for it.  Search the archives and you'll find a
message from none other than Dave Skoll telling me the same thing. :) 
But it doesn't hurt to have two messages in the archive with the same
answer, now does it?
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[Mimedefang] ClamAV not detecting all viruses

2004-06-29 Thread Stewart James

OK here is the situation.

I have clamav-daemon which is run before trend micro's vscan.

The majority of viruses are found by clamav with no problems. One or two
slip past and are picked up by trend.

I altered my setup so the ones detected by trend get quarantined so I
could look further.

Change to the qdir and run clamdscan ENTIRE_MESSAGE and the virus is
found.

The viruses that are at issue are:

HTML_Netsky.P, when vscan decompresses the attached file is detects it
as WORM_NETSKY.P.

For clamav it is Worm.SomeFool.P

WORM_NETSKY.Q and Worm.SomeFool.Q also seem to be having this issue.

So doing it by hand the clamav finds these viruses, but through
mimedefang they are being missed.

I am at a loss where to go from here. clamav can detect them, but clamav
+mimedefang is missing them.

Any thoughts or tips?

Stewart


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Re: [Mimedefang] ClamAV not detecting all viruses

2004-06-29 Thread Bill Maidment
Stewart James wrote:
OK here is the situation.
I have clamav-daemon which is run before trend micro's vscan.
The majority of viruses are found by clamav with no problems. One or two
slip past and are picked up by trend.

Which version of clamav. We had this issue before we installed 0.73. 
Still checking if it's OK in 0.73

Cheers
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Re: [Mimedefang] ClamAV not detecting all viruses

2004-06-29 Thread Stewart James

OK.

It's .72, I remeber reading somewhere it was an issue in 0.70 but had
been fixed. (and osrry to all for not inluding version numbers.

Due to resource restraints (read: there is only one of me) I tend to
rely on debian packages.

A report of this issue being fixed 0.73 is enough for me to hold out for
the debian package to hit testing (where I nabbing my clamav packages
from).

Thanks Bill.

If things are still the same after .73, I'll wave a chicken in the air
then re-email the issue. :)

Stewart

On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 11:07 +1000, Bill Maidment wrote:
 Stewart James wrote:
  OK here is the situation.
  
  I have clamav-daemon which is run before trend micro's vscan.
  
  The majority of viruses are found by clamav with no problems. One or two
  slip past and are picked up by trend.
  
 
 Which version of clamav. We had this issue before we installed 0.73. 
 Still checking if it's OK in 0.73
 
 Cheers
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Re: [Mimedefang] ClamAV not detecting all viruses

2004-06-29 Thread Bill Maidment
Stewart James wrote:
OK.
It's .72, I remeber reading somewhere it was an issue in 0.70 but had
been fixed. (and osrry to all for not inluding version numbers.

Hmmm.. it was supposed to have been fixed in 0.72, we couldn't use 0.72 
because of a Proxy issue, so I can't confirm if it actually did get 
fixed there.

Bill
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Re: [Mimedefang] ClamAV not detecting all viruses

2004-06-29 Thread Stewart James

 Hmmm.. it was supposed to have been fixed in 0.72, we couldn't use 0.72 
 because of a Proxy issue, so I can't confirm if it actually did get 
 fixed there.

Well it's a 3 day wait (OK a couple more becuase that falls on a weekend
here). I will see if 0.73 resolves it for me, if not, I can start
looking at why not of it all.

I will let the list know the outcome :)

Cheers,

Stewart

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