Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang (SSH Security).
The superuser (unix) or administrator (windows) should NEVER be permitted login access via SSH. If you need such access, log in as an unprivileged user and request an access upgrade (i.e. "su" in unix). Didn't our mailing-list host administrator declare this thread closed (as off topic)...? ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] stripping Received headers based on authentication
Hi All,
I've heard some suggestions not to do this, but I plan along with gmail
and some others to do it anyway... ;-)
I would like to strip off any headers for my connection to my own smtp
server, which are authenticated.
So I have enabled filter_sender - however filter sender will not allow
me to run action_delete_header there, though I can detect authenticated
user using
"if ( $SendmailMacros{auth_authen} ) {" which seems to detect
my authenticated users correctly...
I get the error message "action_delete_header called outside of message
context", and the header remains.
I left the "read_commands_file() in filter_sender, and tried again with
the same code in filter end, but I get a "Milter delete (noop): header:
Received" message in the logs, and the Received header remains.
Is it possible to remove "Received headers" in the mimdefang filter, or
are they added afterwards?
Thanks,
Tom
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Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang
Op 16 feb 2010, om 21:30 heeft David F. Skoll het volgende geschreven: However, for cygwin, it keeps defaulting to my windows user and not "root" and that's the problem. Just use the right Control Command entry; see the watch-mimedefang man page. Or, specify the right user in the ssh_config file, like this: Host your-mimedefang-running-host.domain.tld User root On unix, the ssh config file is in $HOME/.ssh/config. I suppose there's something similar on cygwin. -- Jan-Pieter Cornet "People are continuously reinventing the flat tyre". ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang
Cliff Hayes wrote: > However, for cygwin, it keeps defaulting to > my windows user and not "root" and that's the problem. Just use the right Control Command entry; see the watch-mimedefang man page. -- David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang
On 2/16/2010 1:37 PM, Cliff Hayes wrote: I can ssh from my windows instance of cygwin to the mimedefang server. I also established a trust relationship by exchanging ssh keys. I do that all the time to automate ssh tasks. However, for cygwin, it keeps defaulting to my windows user and not "root" and that's the problem. Are you doing this from one of the xterms that started when you did a 'startx'? You shoud be the local windows user there. And you probably have to have run the mkpasswd and mkgroup commands as shown when you installed cygwin so you'll have a home directory for the .xauthority file. I can override it if I type out the ssh command at the command prompt (ssh root@) but when watch-mimedefang runs, it uses the windows user. That doesn't make any sense if your ssh command actually worked - you should be root on the remote side. But either you have to permit password based logins or you have to have set up the keys for the windows user at your end and root at the other. And you should add the -P option to the ssh command line to make sure the X tunneling works. If I could figure out how to run cygwin with root user I think it would work. I just did it on my laptop and it worked as expected - with the cygwin side running as my windows user id but logged in as root on the server. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang
I can ssh from my windows instance of cygwin to the mimedefang server. I also established a trust relationship by exchanging ssh keys. I do that all the time to automate ssh tasks. However, for cygwin, it keeps defaulting to my windows user and not "root" and that's the problem. I can override it if I type out the ssh command at the command prompt (ssh root@) but when watch-mimedefang runs, it uses the windows user. If I could figure out how to run cygwin with root user I think it would work. -Original Message- From: mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com [mailto:mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com]on Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:13 PM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang Cliff Hayes wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> It is fairly difficult to imagine a box that is still running today that > couldn't handle a GUI > > The 42 servers I manage range in age from old to new, Fedora 4 thru 12, > ubuntu, and Windows. None will ever see a "user" who would benefit from a > GUI ... only me remoting in to tweak/repair. The server themselves don't need a GUI - but having one on the machine where you have tools to manage them will make your work easier even if all you do is run a bunch of xterms with ssh to the others. > IMHO GUIs are great for users but > unnecessary overhead on servers. Three of the boxes are Windows so I have > no choice there. I must be in the minority since there appears to be no > call for a web version of watch-mimedefang. The nature of X is that you can run single applications in a remote window, so all you need on the servers are the basic X libs, and they are only loaded when you run a graphic application. The real overhead is in the desktop environment which can be elsewhere. > I'll have to give up on the > cgywin as it took half a day (and 1G of hard drive space) to attempt to set > up the logistics for it and I still can't establish the ssh relationship > necessary for it to work. Most of the time goes into building and installing all the local fonts. How did it fail for you? Did 'startx' give you the X screen with some open xterms? Could you 'ssh -Y' to your server from one of them? If you got that far, starting a remote program should have worked. You should even be able to use putty on the windows side if you set up the X tunnel option - I've forgotten if you need to set up the DISPLAY environment. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] ADMINISTRIVIA: Please kill off thread... Re: OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
Hello, Although I was guilty enough to start and contribute this thread, I'm luckily also hypocritical enough to request that it end. Thanks, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On 2/16/2010 10:51 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Vista is irrelevant. If you read any trade literature at all you would never have touched it in the first place. Just like any X.0 version of a linux distribution. But realistically, the problem in Vista was changing the driver interface, something that Linux does with every re-compile and enterprise distributions have to work around by backporting some of the updates into old kernels without breaking them. It's not totally irrelevant because the changes they made (and tried testing on the rest of us) to my guess, made it into Windows7. Having more Hollywood control of my PC is not desired. That's all I was saying with Vista. I'm glad it's dead. -Ben ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:51:21AM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I take it you don't read the changelogs on linux distribution updates to see the historic bugs that are still being found and fixed. You should. Or, read the MIMEDefang changelog to see the ten-year-old bug fixed in -BETA4 :) Cheers, Dave -- Dave O'Neill Roaring Penguin Software Inc. +1 (613) 231-6599http://www.roaringpenguin.com/ For CanIt technical support, please mail: supp...@roaringpenguin.com ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-5 is available
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Hello,
Unfortunately, it seems we need just *one more* beta before 2.68-final
can be released.
Please try 2.68-BETA-5 available at http://www.mimedefang.org/download.
I promise that if this one's good, it will be 2.68-final. :-)
Changes since 2.67 follow.
Regards,
David.
==
2010-02-16 David F. Skoll
* MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-5
* Detect Sys::Syslog vs. Unix::Syslog at run-time rather than
when running ./configure.
* Fix a crash with embedded Perl on FreeBSD with Perl 5.10.0.
Problem noted by Martin Blapp.
==
2010-02-03 David F. Skoll
* MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-4.
* Bug fix: Don't change Content-Disposition to "inline" by default.
This was causing weird bugs with Outlook iCalendar attachments:
http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2006-December/031525.html
http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2004-November/025461.html
* Fix a really stupid segmentation fault when handling multiline
replies. Bug found and fixed by Michiel Brandenburg.
* Make relay_is_blacklisted and relay_is_blacklisted_multi handle
IPv6 addresses. Patch loosely based on submission by Michiel
Brandenburg.
* Guard the rewriting of IPv4-compatible IPv6 addresses to plain IPv4
with N6_IS_ADDR_V4MAPPED and IN6_IS_ADDR_V4COMPAT tests.
==
2009-12-30 David F. Skoll
* MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-3.
* Work around File::Spec::Unix's behaviour of caching
$ENV{TMPDIR}. (I consider this a bug; see
https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=53236)
* Don't add a To: line for SpamAssassin's benefit; adding such
a line could mask a useful SpamAssassin rule.
==
2009-12-30 David F. Skoll
* MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-2.
* Try hard not to lose any STDERR messages before reaping a slave.
* Make the C code call smfi_setmlreply if (1) the milter library
supports it and (2) the Perl code returns a multi-line reply.
* Convert an IPv6-mapped IPv4 address to pure IPv4. That is,
convert :::a.b.c.d simply to a.b.c.d.
* Make rm_r more robust.
* Set TMPDIR environment variable to $workdir/tmp before
scanning; this should make Perl temporary files use the ramdisk.
* Various code cleanups.
* When creating the Mail::SpamAssassin object, set user_dir
to /var/spool/MD-Quarantine. Fixes problems with SpamAssassin
3.3.0.
==
2009-03-31 David F. Skoll
* MIMEDefang 2.68-BETA-1.
* Make "Overlong line in RESULTS file" a permanent, rather than
temporary, failure.
* Eliminate a possible race condition in SIGTERM handling. On
busy, underpowered servers, this could result in the multiplexor
spontaneously terminating all slaves and unlinking its socket.
* Check for both POLLIN and POLLHUP if we use poll()
* Fix bug in closing of file descriptors after forking; we'd
sometimes close our status descriptor by mistake.
* Remove some pointless fcntl() calls.
* Fix bug with Perl 5.10 and embedded perl, mentioned at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516913
NOTE: This is a bug in Perl, not MIMEDefang, but we need to work
around it.
* Consume and log any STDERR output even if slave has terminated.
==
2009-01-06 David F. Skoll
* VERSION 2.67 RELEASED
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Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
Les Mikesell wrote: [...] > Vista is irrelevant. If you read any trade literature at all you would > never have touched it in the first place. Just like any X.0 version of > a linux distribution. But realistically, the problem in Vista was > changing the driver interface, something that Linux does with every > re-compile and enterprise distributions have to work around by > backporting some of the updates into old kernels without breaking them. Well. Linux is not that bad. Especially on Debian, it's very rare to have breakage on upgrade. Anyway... my original point is that Linux desktops have excellent tools for remotely managing Linux servers. Running watch-mimedefang or watch-multiple-mimedefangs on a Linux desktop lets you easily monitor one or dozens of MIMEDefang servers. It seems to me that it's far simpler to just install Linux to get all the convenient tools (even if you do it in a virtual machine) than to fight with evil hacks like Cygwin to manage the server. Cygwin is an admirable piece of work, but it's in the same category of admirability as toilet-training a ten-month-old... yes, it can probably be done with much cursing and sweat, but for the love of all things sane... WHY??? The impedance mismatch between a Windows desktop and a Linux server just seems too high to accept. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On 2/16/2010 10:33 AM, Ben Kamen wrote: On 2/16/2010 10:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Windows 2000 is a decade old now - and was not even intended to be a desktop OS. And you need to defrag after making big disk changes. If you don't already see why this is a bad comparision, try installing a 10-year old Linux server distro and try to update it to a current desktop piecemeal. So what MS gives us now is a modern OS in which they STILL patch regularly to fix things that should have been fixed a long time ago As does every supplier of complex code. It's a feature. (and I'm not saying Linux is immune, but there's a level of pride for producing solid code that comes with the personally driven contributers of the OSS community than any company worried about the bottom line.) I take it you don't read the changelogs on linux distribution updates to see the historic bugs that are still being found and fixed. You should. But even more offensive is the level of control that was attempted in Vista that has lost its fanfare and is probably successfully implemented into Win7. (and now with MS inserting the new version of WGA which caused a lot of false positives last time in a fashion even more deceitful than that with WGA.) As an example: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Sigh. Vista is irrelevant. If you read any trade literature at all you would never have touched it in the first place. Just like any X.0 version of a linux distribution. But realistically, the problem in Vista was changing the driver interface, something that Linux does with every re-compile and enterprise distributions have to work around by backporting some of the updates into old kernels without breaking them. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On 2/16/2010 10:02 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Windows 2000 is a decade old now - and was not even intended to be a desktop OS. And you need to defrag after making big disk changes. If you don't already see why this is a bad comparision, try installing a 10-year old Linux server distro and try to update it to a current desktop piecemeal. So what MS gives us now is a modern OS in which they STILL patch regularly to fix things that should have been fixed a long time ago (and I'm not saying Linux is immune, but there's a level of pride for producing solid code that comes with the personally driven contributers of the OSS community than any company worried about the bottom line.) But even more offensive is the level of control that was attempted in Vista that has lost its fanfare and is probably successfully implemented into Win7. (and now with MS inserting the new version of WGA which caused a lot of false positives last time in a fashion even more deceitful than that with WGA.) As an example: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html Sigh. -Ben ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On 2/16/2010 8:45 AM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: The frustration of having to run a Windows desktop would drive me insane. Making the switch caused some grief, but I think it was worth it in the long run. If nothing else, patches don't eventual bog the system down like they do in Windows. If you don't believe me, take a fresh machine and install Windows 2000 on it. Time how long it takes to boot. Then do nothing but patch it. Alot. Reboot repeatedly. Burn most of a day doing so. Time how long it takes to boot after all current patches are applied. Last time I did this, it took about 3 times longer to boot. Windows 2000 is a decade old now - and was not even intended to be a desktop OS. And you need to defrag after making big disk changes. If you don't already see why this is a bad comparision, try installing a 10-year old Linux server distro and try to update it to a current desktop piecemeal. Now when my laptop takes longer to boot, it's because I added something. With windows XP, windows 7 or OSX on a laptop, you generally close the lid to sleep, open again to wake up nearly instantly with local networking established automatically and they've done that well for most of a decade - so you rarely need to reboot. It's possible to make some of the current linux distros do this if you are lucky, but it's not a given. Having said that, I prefer Linux on servers, but I'm perfectly happy to run the screens remotely with freenx/NX (easier than fighting with distros that don't included Nvidia drivers anyway) and to test experimental stuff under VMware where it is irrelevant what OS is hosting natively. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
On 2/16/2010 8:45 AM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Making the switch caused some grief, but I think it was worth it in the long run. If nothing else, patches don't eventual bog the system down like they do in Windows. If you don't believe me, take a fresh machine and install Windows 2000 on it. Time how long it takes to boot. Then do nothing but patch it. Alot. Reboot repeatedly. Burn most of a day doing so. Time how long it takes to boot after all current patches are applied. Last time I did this, it took about 3 times longer to boot. That's because Linux patches FIX things. Windows patchs might fix things... O it might be installing covert windows software that allow Microsoft, the NSA, SOME government with monetary stake in MS or, or even the execs in HOLLYWOOD to wreak control of your PC and it's content. G... -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P. = Email: bkamen AT benjammin DOT net Web: http://www.benjammin.net ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] OT: Choice of desktop OS (was Re: watch-mimedefang)
DFS wrote on 02/12/2010 06:54:27 PM: > I must confess, I've never understood people who administer Linux servers, > yet don't run a Linux desktop. Heck, run Linux in VMWare if you must, > but at least use proper desktop tools to administer a Linux server. When I first started using Linux for production servers (Roaring Penguin's CanIt Pro), I wasn't as comfortable w/ Linux as I knew I should be. I switched my day to day laptop to Linux and for the Windows apps I have to run, I use VMWare Workstation. VMWare player was not available back then, and I've kept to pay version for the extra features. > The frustration of having to run a Windows desktop would drive me insane. Making the switch caused some grief, but I think it was worth it in the long run. If nothing else, patches don't eventual bog the system down like they do in Windows. If you don't believe me, take a fresh machine and install Windows 2000 on it. Time how long it takes to boot. Then do nothing but patch it. Alot. Reboot repeatedly. Burn most of a day doing so. Time how long it takes to boot after all current patches are applied. Last time I did this, it took about 3 times longer to boot. Now when my laptop takes longer to boot, it's because I added something. Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the addressee), or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are hereby notified that you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of this message or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete this message from your system. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] disable spamcheck for localhost and stream_by_domain problem
Marcus wrote: > I'd like to disable spamassassin checks for all emails sent from the > host mimedefang is running on (= localhost). But how can I distinguish > between an email sent by localhost and an email which is resubmitted via > localhost because of mimedefang's stream_by_domain function. Checking > $RelayAddr for 127.0.0.1 doesn't help here. man mimedefang-filter Search for PRESERVING RELAY INFORMATION Although that man page talks about secondary MX hosts, the technique can work for detecting locally-submitted vs. resent mail as well if you consider 127.0.0.1 as a secondary MX. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] watch-mimedefang
Cliff Hayes wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >> It is fairly difficult to imagine a box that is still running today that > couldn't handle a GUI That's not the point. Any software installed on a machine is a potential vulnerability. I would never install X on a server. > I also tried xming. I ran the install. Then whenever I run the launcher, > it prompts me for a few things then promtply disappears. If anyone has > gotten xming and watch-mimedefang to work and is willing to share a bit more > detail I'd love to give it another try. Wouldn't it be easier just to run a Linux desktop? Seriously? -- David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
