Re: Failing to get [EMAIL PROTECTED] in X

2007-05-15 Thread Alex Holst
Quoting Ted Unangst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On 5/14/07, Alex Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Quoting Ted Unangst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >> On 5/13/07, Alex Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >I set VertRefresh to 60-60, included a modeline generated by gtf and
> >> >disabled DDC, resulting in X being a smartarse ("Sure, I can do 60Hz"):
> >>
> >> can you post the full log somewhere?  if you can wait to tuesday, i'll
> >> also try to get it working myself.
> 
> sorry man, it just works for me.  i've got a t60 running current.

Well, if it just works, clearly you must be doing something wrong :)
You didn't need to use 915resolution?
Could you post a full Xorg.log and maybe a generated xorg.conf somewhere?

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Re: openbsd and dell PE 860 1u rack server

2007-05-15 Thread Srebrenko Sehic

i am considering a Dell PE 860 1u rack server for usage as my network
storage server (nfs).
I wonder about reports from the openbsd comunity using it with openbsd
4.0/4.1 on stability and performance. What you guys/girls have to
report? It is worth its price?


I don't run one myself, but got several reports of happy users running
OpenBSD on it. Have a look at http://www.armorlogic.com/oscl



Re: SFTP no autocompletion?

2007-05-15 Thread Darren Tucker
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:36:43PM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:33:27AM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
> | Hi there,
> | 
> | does SFTP have no TAB-autocompletion for local/remote files? TAB
> | doesn't work. It makes transferring files very clumsy. And does SFTP
> | secure my username and password or only my file transfers by default?
> 
> SFTP uses ssh and thus secures the entire connection. The sftp(1)
> client that comes by default with OpenBSD does not do tabcompletion.
> Feel free to use another client or to write support for it and send a
> patch ;)

Anyone looking into this would probably want to look at what Ben
Lindstrom has already done with this:

http://www.eviladmin.org/patches/sftp-tab.patch

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Re: skey with scp

2007-05-15 Thread Darren Tucker
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 04:36:15PM -0500, Eric Johnson wrote:
> Does anyone know of a method of using skey for scp transfers (apart
> from port forwarding through an ssh tunnel)?
> 
> I've tried:
>   scp username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/username/foo.bar .
> and
>   scp "username:skey"@host.example.com:/home/username/foo.bar .
> 
> Any other suggestions?

I don't use skey so I can't test it but this will probably work:

scp -o User="username:skey" host.example.com:/home/username/foo.bar .

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Re: hostnames stored in an other file than /etc/hosts ?

2007-05-15 Thread Yggdrasill Senecoen

Antti Harri wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Yggdrasill Senecoen wrote:

[snip]

So, do OpenBSD save this information in an another file than /etc/hosts ?


Check resolv.conf(5) and the "lookup" directive.



Forgot to add the lookup directive in my resolv.conf. It's working fine now.


Thanks,


Yanic



Re: hostnames stored in an other file than /etc/hosts ?

2007-05-15 Thread Antti Harri

On Wed, 16 May 2007, Yggdrasill Senecoen wrote:

[snip]

So, do OpenBSD save this information in an another file than /etc/hosts ?


Check resolv.conf(5) and the "lookup" directive.

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Re: new openbsd 4.0 server, panic on ufsdirhash

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Judd
Linux OS'en (IIRC) use lspci like what pciconf is for FreeBSD.

I don't know if Open would have any of those tools built in.  I don't
have a "ready" openbsd box right now.

Google search for "thunderboot ultimate boot cd" doesn't reveal
anything.  it suggested a spelling correction, for thunderboom, which
didn't easily reveal any bootable cd.  A link to the ISO and I'd offer
what I can for diagnostics and probing solutions.

Is there a way to get the kernel to more verbosely announce what it's
probing and configuring, like what FreeBSD's boot loader's "-v" option
will do?  Haven't tried, haven't looked anything up.

We are definately narrowing down the culprit, and I just hope we come
to a solid conclusion.

--- John Mendenhall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> > John, since you were able to boot the ultimate boot cd and run both
> > drives completely, I don't think any hardware is the culprit.  Your
> CD
> > drive, Hard Drive(s), memory, etc all work under that OS.
> > 
> > My mindset is now leading to some bug that OpenBSD is doing
> (probably)
> > with the ATA controller.  Probe from the ultimate boot cd to see
> what
> > ATA controller it is using, and then find what OpenBSD is finding
> the
> > ATA controller to be.  A minor model difference could be the
> culprit
> > (model 1234 versus model 1234a, for example).
> 
> I am using the thunderboot ultimate boot cd.
> Any hints on which tool could get the ata controller the box is
> using?
> I can see the ATA-# supported (6,5,4,3,2).  Lots of other
> information.
> I don't see a model/version number yet.
> 
> I will keep checking all the tools on here.
> 
> JohnM
> 
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hostnames stored in an other file than /etc/hosts ?

2007-05-15 Thread Yggdrasill Senecoen

Hi,


Since a few days I find out a strange stuff.
There is a device on my network which is on 172.16.85.1, associate with 
it's own hostname on my /etc/hosts file.
But when I try to reach this device using it's hostname my workstation 
try to reach this host with a bad ip address.


Typicaly :
--

#cat /etc/hosts|grep Caliphora
172.16.85.1 Caliphora cali
#ping Caliphora
PING Caliphora (10.0.0.113): 56 data bytes
--- Caliphora ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss


So, do OpenBSD save this information in an another file than /etc/hosts ?


Thanks for help,


Yanic.



Re: OT: unix/openbsd printer support

2007-05-15 Thread Todd Alan Smith

On 5/15/07, Frank Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Moin,

John Nietzsche has spoken, thus:
> I wonder if some here has already deployed such in openbsd environment
> and knows the site i am talking about.

I think http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting is what you are
looking for.


...which used to be linuxprinting.org, John. Perhaps that's the site
that you had previously bookmarked.

-Todd



skey with scp

2007-05-15 Thread Eric Johnson
Does anyone know of a method of using skey for scp transfers (apart from port 
forwarding through an ssh tunnel)?

I've tried:

scp username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/username/foo.bar .

and

scp "username:skey"@host.example.com:/home/username/foo.bar .

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Eric



Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Daniel Kertesz

On  15 May, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Robert Zajda wrote:


But it dont' want to work in chroot.

On 5/15/07, Allie D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cronolog...no restart needed.


Actually it can, with a little patch [1] that I've "ported" to the  
ports system [2]; unpack the tar.gz in /usr/ports/www and install  
cronolog as usual. This patch adds --set-uid and --set-gid switches,  
witch make cronolog drop his privileges like apache do.


[1] http://cronolog.org/patches/cronolog-setugid-patch.txt
[2] http://spatof.org/obsd/cronolog-1.6.2-setuid.tar.gz

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Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Allie D.
I run it on a chrooted server...works fine.

ErrorLog "|/usr/local/sbin/cronolog /var/www/logs/%Y/%m/%d/error.log"
CustomLog "|/usr/local/sbin/cronolog /var/www/logs/%Y/%m/%d/access.log"
combined

I don't think there's any more configuration than that.
-- 
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On Tue, May 15, 2007 13:41, Robert Zajda wrote:
> But it dont' want to work in chroot.
>
> On 5/15/07, Allie D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cronolog...no restart needed.
>> --
>> ~Allie D.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2007 12:11, John Mendenhall wrote:
>> >> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
>> >> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
>> >>
>> >> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
>> >>
>> >> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests
>> before
>> >> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the
>> case
>> >> where the first start fails because apache is still running.
>> >
>> > I have a script which does the following:
>> >
>> > + rotates logs
>> > + calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
>> > + calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
>> >   (looks for 'not running')
>> > + if I don't find not running, pages me
>> > + run apachectl startssl
>> >
>> > This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
>> > after a successful rotate and restart.
>> >
>> > Works for us.
>> >
>> > JohnM
>> >
>> > --
>> > john mendenhall
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > surf utopia
>> > internet services



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Pecaut

On 5/15/07, Peter Hessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:bridging is layer 2 and has nothing to do with net.inet.ip.forwarding=1.
:The problem is more somewhere deep inside the bridging code. One possible
:problem could be a to small interface queue but I could be totaly wrong.
:If nobody beats me I will have a look at this somewhen in the next month
:or so.

I've had net.inet.ip.forwarding help on a bridge before.  Not saying
there isn't a problem, but that I've gotten a performance increase from
enabling it.


It can cause problems, though, too.  For example, if you have a bridge
in front of machines that do multicast-based IP load balancing
(specifically, Microsoft's NLB) then the packet duplication with
net.inet.ip.forwarding craps on your network.  Turning off
net.inet.ip.forwarding reduces the packet duplication and shit works
again.

-Mark



Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Alex Thurlow
I've always rotated my logs without ever starting apache.  I just do 
something like this.


cp access_log $date_access_log
echo > access_log
gzip $date_access_log

It's possible to lose a line or 2 of logging, but if that's ok, this is 
what I've done.


Robert Zajda wrote:

It's hosting server so restarting apache is bad idea.

On 5/15/07, John Mendenhall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
>
> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
>
> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
> where the first start fails because apache is still running.

I have a script which does the following:

+ rotates logs
+ calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
+ calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
  (looks for 'not running')
+ if I don't find not running, pages me
+ run apachectl startssl

This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
after a successful rotate and restart.

Works for us.

JohnM

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Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Zajda

But it dont' want to work in chroot.

On 5/15/07, Allie D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cronolog...no restart needed.
--
~Allie D.


On Tue, May 15, 2007 12:11, John Mendenhall wrote:
>> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
>> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
>>
>> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
>>
>> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
>> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
>> where the first start fails because apache is still running.
>
> I have a script which does the following:
>
> + rotates logs
> + calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
> + calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
>   (looks for 'not running')
> + if I don't find not running, pages me
> + run apachectl startssl
>
> This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
> after a successful rotate and restart.
>
> Works for us.
>
> JohnM
>
> --
> john mendenhall
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> surf utopia
> internet services




Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Zajda

It's hosting server so restarting apache is bad idea.

On 5/15/07, John Mendenhall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
>
> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
>
> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
> where the first start fails because apache is still running.

I have a script which does the following:

+ rotates logs
+ calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
+ calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
  (looks for 'not running')
+ if I don't find not running, pages me
+ run apachectl startssl

This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
after a successful rotate and restart.

Works for us.

JohnM

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NVIDIA nForce Pro support

2007-05-15 Thread Patrick Cummings
Hi,
does anyone know if this chipset "NVIDIA nForce Professional 3400 MCP" is
completely supported by openBSD?? The hardware support page is not clear about
that, it only shows "NVIDIA
nForce/nForce2/nForce2-400/nForce3/nForce3-250/nForce4,
MCP04/MCP51/MCP55/MCP61/MCP65/MCP67".
Thanks
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Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Renaud Allard
Diana Eichert wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2007, Renaud Allard wrote:
> 
>> No nothing showed in the logs. And I don't understand why such a
>> performance difference between routing and bridging.
>>
>>
>> Marco Peereboom wrote:
>>> Possibly interrupt issues.  Where them dmesg'?
> 
> I believe Marco requested the dmesg info and indicated it might be an
> interrupt issue.
> 
> # vmstat -i
> 
> # systat -w 1 vmstat
> 
> 

Well, I didn't understand it that way, but I will post the dmesg
tomorrow. Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce the 1Gbps tests as I don't
have the 1Gbps fluke analyzer anymore. I can only have access to one
that produces 155Mbps max throughput.



Re: new openbsd 4.0 server, panic on ufsdirhash

2007-05-15 Thread John Mendenhall
Tim,

> John, since you were able to boot the ultimate boot cd and run both
> drives completely, I don't think any hardware is the culprit.  Your CD
> drive, Hard Drive(s), memory, etc all work under that OS.
> 
> My mindset is now leading to some bug that OpenBSD is doing (probably)
> with the ATA controller.  Probe from the ultimate boot cd to see what
> ATA controller it is using, and then find what OpenBSD is finding the
> ATA controller to be.  A minor model difference could be the culprit
> (model 1234 versus model 1234a, for example).

I am using the thunderboot ultimate boot cd.
Any hints on which tool could get the ata controller the box is using?
I can see the ATA-# supported (6,5,4,3,2).  Lots of other information.
I don't see a model/version number yet.

I will keep checking all the tools on here.

JohnM

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Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Allie D.
Cronolog...no restart needed.
-- 
~Allie D.


On Tue, May 15, 2007 12:11, John Mendenhall wrote:
>> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
>> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
>>
>> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
>>
>> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
>> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
>> where the first start fails because apache is still running.
>
> I have a script which does the following:
>
> + rotates logs
> + calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
> + calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
>   (looks for 'not running')
> + if I don't find not running, pages me
> + run apachectl startssl
>
> This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
> after a successful rotate and restart.
>
> Works for us.
>
> JohnM
>
> --
> john mendenhall
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> surf utopia
> internet services



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2007 May 15 (Tue) at 20:34:19 +0200 (+0200), Claudio Jeker wrote:
:On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:09:03AM -0700, Peter Hessler wrote:
:> you forgot to enable sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 on the first test.  
:> Turn that on, then re-measure the speeds of the bridge.
:> 
:
:bridging is layer 2 and has nothing to do with net.inet.ip.forwarding=1.
:The problem is more somewhere deep inside the bridging code. One possible
:problem could be a to small interface queue but I could be totaly wrong.
:If nobody beats me I will have a look at this somewhen in the next month
:or so.

I've had net.inet.ip.forwarding help on a bridge before.  Not saying 
there isn't a problem, but that I've gotten a performance increase from 
enabling it.


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Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread John Mendenhall
> If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
> something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:
> 
> "apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"
> 
> The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
> trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
> where the first start fails because apache is still running.

I have a script which does the following:

+ rotates logs
+ calls apachectl stop (twice, with sleep 2 after each call)
+ calls apachectl stop and greps the output to make sure it is stopped
  (looks for 'not running')
+ if I don't find not running, pages me
+ run apachectl startssl

This is all in a wrapper script which then calls awstats
after a successful rotate and restart.

Works for us.

JohnM

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Failing to get [EMAIL PROTECTED] in X

2007-05-15 Thread Ted Unangst

On 5/14/07, Alex Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Quoting Ted Unangst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On 5/13/07, Alex Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I set VertRefresh to 60-60, included a modeline generated by gtf and
> >disabled DDC, resulting in X being a smartarse ("Sure, I can do 60Hz"):
>
> can you post the full log somewhere?  if you can wait to tuesday, i'll
> also try to get it working myself.


sorry man, it just works for me.  i've got a t60 running current.

i started at a console, hit fn-f7, ran startx, and it worked.  the
monitor's even rotated vertically, but xrandr -o left works fine.

(II) I810(0): Builtin Default Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-81.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Builtin Default Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-75.00 Hz
(WW) I810(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1680x1050 (pitch 1680)
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1680x1050"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1400x1050"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1280x1024"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1440x900"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1280x800"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 60.00Hz refresh for mode "1680x1050" (865)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 74.76Hz refresh for mode "1400x1050" (85a)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.02Hz refresh for mode "1280x1024" (858)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.00Hz refresh for mode "1440x900" (862)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.00Hz refresh for mode "1280x800" (868)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.03Hz refresh for mode "1024x768" (854)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.00Hz refresh for mode "800x600" (852)
(II) I810(0): Attempting to use 75.00Hz refresh for mode "640x480" (850)



Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 08:21:24PM +0200, Przemyslaw Nowaczyk wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 07:10:28PM +0200, Bambero wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > I'm wondering how to implement log rotation with chrooted apache.
> > 
> > Anyone solved this problem ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Bambero
> 
> same as with any other log..? (newsyslog(8) && cron(8))
> cheers,

The problem there is that sending a SIGHUP won't work as expected, and
neither will "apachectl restart"

If you don't mind a second or two of down time then you can use
something like this in newsyslog.conf as a restart command:

"apachectl stop;sleep 1;apachctl start;sleep 10;apachectl start"

The first sleep gives apache a second to finish active requests before
trying to start again.  The second sleep and start is to catch the case
where the first start fails because apache is still running.

This is far from perfect, but works is you're just serving pages (as
opposed to large, long-lived downloads).

Other, better solutions involve piping logs to chronolog or something
similar.

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Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:09:03AM -0700, Peter Hessler wrote:
> you forgot to enable sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 on the first test.  
> Turn that on, then re-measure the speeds of the bridge.
> 

bridging is layer 2 and has nothing to do with net.inet.ip.forwarding=1.
The problem is more somewhere deep inside the bridging code. One possible
problem could be a to small interface queue but I could be totaly wrong.
If nobody beats me I will have a look at this somewhen in the next month
or so.

> On 2007 May 15 (Tue) at 19:04:47 +0200 (+0200), Renaud Allard wrote:
> :Hello,
> :
> :I just had the opportunity to test some Fluke network equipment, notably
> :one which is able to throughput test gigabit networks.
> :
> :I installed a Nexcom NSA1086 with OpenBSD 4.1-stable and did some tests.
> :The NSA1086 units are equipped with a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz (hyperthreading
> :disabled), and 1Gb ram. They have 4 sk gigabit interfaces, and 4 msk
> :gigabit interfaces. Here are the tests:
> :
> :**
> :ifconfig sk0 up
> :ifconfig sk1 up
> :ifconfig bridge0 create
> :ifconfig bridge0 up
> :brconfig bridge0 add sk0
> :brconfig bridge0 add sk1
> :sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
> :
> :Then I connected the fluke analyzers to both sk ports. connections were
> :correctly seen at 1000 base T full Duplex. then I started a throughput
> :test on 1Gbps, and I was extremely surprised to see how performance was
> :very poor. The throughput was only about 77Mbps.
> :
> :***
> :
> :Seeing that I decided to try on msk interfaces and got about the same
> :"performance".
> :
> :***
> :
> :Then I configured routing between two interfaces.
> :ifconfig sk2 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
> :ifconfig sk3 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> :sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> :sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
> :
> :I did the throughput test, and got about 500Mbps both on sk and msk,
> :with the CPU keeping quiet.
> :
> :**
> :
> :So the weak performance doesn't seem related to the bus, the CPU, or the
> :sk/msk drivers. Has someone an explanation on why I get this kind of
> :behavior?
> :
> 
> 
> --
> Anthony's Law of Force:
>   Don't force it; get a larger hammer.
> 

-- 
:wq Claudio



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Diana Eichert

On Tue, 15 May 2007, Renaud Allard wrote:


No nothing showed in the logs. And I don't understand why such a
performance difference between routing and bridging.


Marco Peereboom wrote:

Possibly interrupt issues.  Where them dmesg'?


I believe Marco requested the dmesg info and indicated it might be an 
interrupt issue.


# vmstat -i

# systat -w 1 vmstat



Re: log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Przemyslaw Nowaczyk
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 07:10:28PM +0200, Bambero wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm wondering how to implement log rotation with chrooted apache.
> 
> Anyone solved this problem ?
> 
> Thanks
> Bambero

same as with any other log..? (newsyslog(8) && cron(8))
cheers,

-- 
Przemyslaw Nowaczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CS student @ Poznan University of Technology
http://www.student.put.poznan.pl/~przemyslaw.nowaczyk/



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Peter Hessler
you forgot to enable sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 on the first test.  
Turn that on, then re-measure the speeds of the bridge.

On 2007 May 15 (Tue) at 19:04:47 +0200 (+0200), Renaud Allard wrote:
:Hello,
:
:I just had the opportunity to test some Fluke network equipment, notably
:one which is able to throughput test gigabit networks.
:
:I installed a Nexcom NSA1086 with OpenBSD 4.1-stable and did some tests.
:The NSA1086 units are equipped with a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz (hyperthreading
:disabled), and 1Gb ram. They have 4 sk gigabit interfaces, and 4 msk
:gigabit interfaces. Here are the tests:
:
:**
:ifconfig sk0 up
:ifconfig sk1 up
:ifconfig bridge0 create
:ifconfig bridge0 up
:brconfig bridge0 add sk0
:brconfig bridge0 add sk1
:sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
:
:Then I connected the fluke analyzers to both sk ports. connections were
:correctly seen at 1000 base T full Duplex. then I started a throughput
:test on 1Gbps, and I was extremely surprised to see how performance was
:very poor. The throughput was only about 77Mbps.
:
:***
:
:Seeing that I decided to try on msk interfaces and got about the same
:"performance".
:
:***
:
:Then I configured routing between two interfaces.
:ifconfig sk2 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
:ifconfig sk3 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
:sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
:sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
:
:I did the throughput test, and got about 500Mbps both on sk and msk,
:with the CPU keeping quiet.
:
:**
:
:So the weak performance doesn't seem related to the bus, the CPU, or the
:sk/msk drivers. Has someone an explanation on why I get this kind of
:behavior?
:


--
Anthony's Law of Force:
Don't force it; get a larger hammer.



openbsd and dell PE 860 1u rack server

2007-05-15 Thread John Nietzsche

Dear gentleman,

i am considering a Dell PE 860 1u rack server for usage as my network
storage server (nfs).
I wonder about reports from the openbsd comunity using it with openbsd
4.0/4.1 on stability and performance. What you guys/girls have to
report? It is worth its price?

Another question: I am familiar with SAS raid controller. Formerly,
U320 SCSI one were required to have dual/quad channels
(internal/external) if more discs were required to be supported. Is
the channels (internal/external) ideia sound within SAS RAID world ?

thanks in advance.



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Renaud Allard
No nothing showed in the logs. And I don't understand why such a
performance difference between routing and bridging.


Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Possibly interrupt issues.  Where them dmesg'?
> 
> On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Renaud Allard wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just had the opportunity to test some Fluke network equipment, notably
>> one which is able to throughput test gigabit networks.
>>
>> I installed a Nexcom NSA1086 with OpenBSD 4.1-stable and did some tests.
>> The NSA1086 units are equipped with a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz (hyperthreading
>> disabled), and 1Gb ram. They have 4 sk gigabit interfaces, and 4 msk
>> gigabit interfaces. Here are the tests:
>>
>> **
>> ifconfig sk0 up
>> ifconfig sk1 up
>> ifconfig bridge0 create
>> ifconfig bridge0 up
>> brconfig bridge0 add sk0
>> brconfig bridge0 add sk1
>> sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
>>
>> Then I connected the fluke analyzers to both sk ports. connections were
>> correctly seen at 1000 base T full Duplex. then I started a throughput
>> test on 1Gbps, and I was extremely surprised to see how performance was
>> very poor. The throughput was only about 77Mbps.
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Seeing that I decided to try on msk interfaces and got about the same
>> "performance".
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Then I configured routing between two interfaces.
>> ifconfig sk2 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
>> ifconfig sk3 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
>> sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
>> sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
>>
>> I did the throughput test, and got about 500Mbps both on sk and msk,
>> with the CPU keeping quiet.
>>
>> **
>>
>> So the weak performance doesn't seem related to the bus, the CPU, or the
>> sk/msk drivers. Has someone an explanation on why I get this kind of
>> behavior?



Re: new openbsd 4.0 server, panic on ufsdirhash

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Judd
I (still) receive the digest, copied message without quoting characters

- QUOTE:
We have done a low level disk format using an ultimate
boot cd.  Didn't output any errors.  Did this on both
drives in the system.  Took a very long time.

Then, tried to install the OS.  Received a panic on
installing the comp set, ffs_valloc dup alloc.
Reconfigured to have all install go to one drive.
Same error, different inode.  Tried all on other drive,
same error, different inode.  Kept trying it over and
over.  Always panicked on comp set.  Always same error
of ffs_valloc dup alloc.  Always a different inode.

I am unable to copy in the actual error.  I just have
this on a monitor in the room.  No console capability.

Same dmesg as before in this thread.  I can post again
if needed.

My question is, to debug this, or fix it, do I need
to start swapping out cables, hard disks, motherboard,
etc?  Any hints or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

JohnM
 /QUOTE


John, since you were able to boot the ultimate boot cd and run both
drives completely, I don't think any hardware is the culprit.  Your CD
drive, Hard Drive(s), memory, etc all work under that OS.

My mindset is now leading to some bug that OpenBSD is doing (probably)
with the ATA controller.  Probe from the ultimate boot cd to see what
ATA controller it is using, and then find what OpenBSD is finding the
ATA controller to be.  A minor model difference could be the culprit
(model 1234 versus model 1234a, for example).

Bug may not be the right word, but it's what's coming to mind.  Not to
steer away from OpenBSD, but if the three big BSDs all have trouble, we
might be able to limit what might be the problem.  FreeBSD operating
system runs on a live CD either with their disc1 (install disk, look
for the "fixit" option and then select "CD/DVD")  start running things
like dd and etc to run data on the drive.  Nothing valuable there now
anyway, is there?  Maybe using a *rand device under /dev

NetBSD doesn't have (AFAIK) a live-cd, but i'm pretty sure you can
escape to shell from their installer.  Run similar/same tools.  get
dmesg from both Free and Net while you're on it.  save it to external
medium (usb stick, floppy).  Compare the findings to OpenBSD's dmesg.

Basically, it boils down to the fact that one OS ran for several hours
with CONSTANT hdd activity with no errors.  I think it's a software
problem, including drivers into the software category.

Thanks!

If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door.
"I can" is a way of life.
More and Bigger is not always Better.
The road to success is always uphill.


   

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Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
http://sims.yahoo.com/  



Re: very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Marco Peereboom
Possibly interrupt issues.  Where them dmesg'?

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Renaud Allard wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just had the opportunity to test some Fluke network equipment, notably
> one which is able to throughput test gigabit networks.
> 
> I installed a Nexcom NSA1086 with OpenBSD 4.1-stable and did some tests.
> The NSA1086 units are equipped with a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz (hyperthreading
> disabled), and 1Gb ram. They have 4 sk gigabit interfaces, and 4 msk
> gigabit interfaces. Here are the tests:
> 
> **
> ifconfig sk0 up
> ifconfig sk1 up
> ifconfig bridge0 create
> ifconfig bridge0 up
> brconfig bridge0 add sk0
> brconfig bridge0 add sk1
> sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
> 
> Then I connected the fluke analyzers to both sk ports. connections were
> correctly seen at 1000 base T full Duplex. then I started a throughput
> test on 1Gbps, and I was extremely surprised to see how performance was
> very poor. The throughput was only about 77Mbps.
> 
> ***
> 
> Seeing that I decided to try on msk interfaces and got about the same
> "performance".
> 
> ***
> 
> Then I configured routing between two interfaces.
> ifconfig sk2 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
> ifconfig sk3 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
> sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000
> 
> I did the throughput test, and got about 500Mbps both on sk and msk,
> with the CPU keeping quiet.
> 
> **
> 
> So the weak performance doesn't seem related to the bus, the CPU, or the
> sk/msk drivers. Has someone an explanation on why I get this kind of
> behavior?



log rotation

2007-05-15 Thread Bambero

Hello

I'm wondering how to implement log rotation with chrooted apache.

Anyone solved this problem ?

Thanks
Bambero



very weak bridge performance

2007-05-15 Thread Renaud Allard
Hello,

I just had the opportunity to test some Fluke network equipment, notably
one which is able to throughput test gigabit networks.

I installed a Nexcom NSA1086 with OpenBSD 4.1-stable and did some tests.
The NSA1086 units are equipped with a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz (hyperthreading
disabled), and 1Gb ram. They have 4 sk gigabit interfaces, and 4 msk
gigabit interfaces. Here are the tests:

**
ifconfig sk0 up
ifconfig sk1 up
ifconfig bridge0 create
ifconfig bridge0 up
brconfig bridge0 add sk0
brconfig bridge0 add sk1
sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000

Then I connected the fluke analyzers to both sk ports. connections were
correctly seen at 1000 base T full Duplex. then I started a throughput
test on 1Gbps, and I was extremely surprised to see how performance was
very poor. The throughput was only about 77Mbps.

***

Seeing that I decided to try on msk interfaces and got about the same
"performance".

***

Then I configured routing between two interfaces.
ifconfig sk2 inet 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
ifconfig sk3 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
sysctl kern.maxclusters=256000

I did the throughput test, and got about 500Mbps both on sk and msk,
with the CPU keeping quiet.

**

So the weak performance doesn't seem related to the bus, the CPU, or the
sk/msk drivers. Has someone an explanation on why I get this kind of
behavior?



D-Link DE-660, PCMCIA/Cardbus on oldish labtop

2007-05-15 Thread lenneis
Dear all,

I have a bit of a diffcult time with an admittetly nowadays marginal
piece of hardware, a Pentium 233 Mhz Labtop with two PCMCIA/Cardbus
slots. But then, where is the fun/satisfaction coming from using
something more recent? I use a D-Link DE-660 card in one of those
slots, which is detected and used correctly by the floppy41.fs
installation disk. This is the dmesg output:



OpenBSD 4.1 (RAMDISK) #260: Sat Mar 10 19:38:22 MST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK
cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 234 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
real mem  = 66678784 (65116K)
avail mem = 55922688 (54612K)
using 844 buffers containing 3457024 bytes (3376K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/11/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfab80
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xaff8
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd890/96 (4 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 ("Opti 82C700" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xa000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Opti 82C701" rev 0x32
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Opti 82C700" rev 0x31
vga1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Neomagic Magicgraph NM2160" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
"O2 Micro OZ6836/OZ6860 CardBus" rev 0x62 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 not 
configured
"O2 Micro OZ6836/OZ6860 CardBus" rev 0x62 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 not 
configured
"Opti 82C861" rev 0x10 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 not configured
pciide0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "Opti 82D568 IDE" rev 0x30: DMA 
(unsupported), channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to 
compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 19077MB, 39070080 sectors
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
isapnp0 at isa0 port 0x279: read port 0x203
"ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioD, ESS0006, , " at isapnp0 port 0x800/8 not 
configured
"ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioD, ESS1869, , " at isapnp0 port 
0x220/16,0x388/4,0x330/2 irq 5 drq 1,0 not configured
"ESS ES1869 Plug and Play AudioD, ESS0001, , " at isapnp0 port 0x201/1 not 
configured
pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd/16384
pcic0 controller 0:  has sockets A and B
pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0
pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1
ne3 at pcmcia1 function 0 "D-Link, DE-660, 118B6603" port 0x340/32, irq 3, 
address 00:80:c8:8a:d2:9f
pcic0: irq 4, polling enabled
biomask ffe5 netmask ffed ttymask 
rd0: fixed, 3800 blocks
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02



So another ne2000 clone apparently. Good. But after installing and
rebooting things are not detected properly. Here is the dmesg after
installation booting the GENERIC kernel:



OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC) #1435: Sat Mar 10 19:07:45 MST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 234 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
real mem  = 66678784 (65116K)
avail mem = 52531200 (51300K)
using 844 buffers containing 3457024 bytes (3376K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/11/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfab80
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, no battery
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xaff8
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd890/96 (4 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 ("Opti 82C700" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xa000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Opti 82C701" rev 0x32
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Opti 82C700" rev 0x31
vga1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "Neomagic Magicgraph NM2160" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
cbb0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "O2 Micro OZ6836/OZ6860 CardBus" rev 0x62: irq 11
cbb1 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "O2 Micro OZ6836/OZ6860 

Re: Chrooting users the right way

2007-05-15 Thread Renaud Allard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am setting up a new OpenBSD machine in which I want to chroot users. I don't
> want to use any of the patching solutions to OpenSSH but want to implement a
> real system chroot solution so any user, who is chrooted, is jailed even if he
> logs in manually.
> 
> I have tried to find articles on this, but haven't been succesfull. 
> 
> Does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to do this on OpenBSD?
> 
> Best and kind regards.
> 
> Rico Secada.
> 
> 

Hi,

Take a look at sysjail (http://sysjail.bsd.lv/). It is more or less what
you want.



Re: Troubleshooting NFS/SFU

2007-05-15 Thread Emilio Perea
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:11:00PM -0300, John Nietzsche wrote:
> i am trying to get my windows boxes access nfs directly by means of 
> SFU, too!
> I would like to have a global mount, say drive g: to mount from my
> home directories.
> 
> Is it possible? How have you been doing in order to get a global drive 
> mapping?

I think it might be better to ask in the forums at the SFU website:
http://www.interopsystems.com/tools

(Unless you are having problems on the OpenBSD side.)



Re: Troubleshooting NFS/SFU

2007-05-15 Thread John Nietzsche

Dear folks,

i am trying to get my windows boxes access nfs directly by means of SFU, too!
I would like to have a global mount, say drive g: to mount from my
home directories.

Is it possible? How have you been doing in order to get a global drive mapping?

Thanks in advance.

On 5/14/07, David Higgs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've tried to configure NFS and am nearly all the way there, but it
seems like I've hit a pretty big stumbling block.  I've got OpenBSD
4.1-stable (10.0.0.1) with an NFS export of my home directory.  I also
have a Windows XP machine (10.0.0.2) and installed the SFU 3.5 NFS
client.

[/etc/exports]
/home/david -mapall=david:guest -network=10.0.0.0 -mask=255.255.255.0

I can successfully mount this share locally and perform both reads and writes.

Without any of SFU's User Name Mapping configured, I can mount the
share with uid/gid of -2/-2 as advertised.  Appropriately, I cannot
access any files or directories that are not world-readable.  However,
inside a chmod-777 directory, I cannot create files or directories
(which might be as expected).

After configuring User Name Mapping to map my Windows account to the
UNIX account, I can mount the share with the expected uid/gid.
Although I can read user-only files and directories, I still cannot
create any files or directories.  Windows keeps reporting that the
drive has write-protection enabled.

I know this isn't a SFU help forum, but any ideas to try or tips on
troubleshooting the NFS side is more than welcome.  Thanks in advance.

--david

P.S. On an unrelated sidenote, does mountd always bind to the same
ports by default?  If not, is there a way to fix them at certain
values, so that PF rules can be written to match?  Linux rpc.mountd(8)
supposedly has a -p option that can be used for this purpose.




Re: PF

2007-05-15 Thread Alberich de megres
Hi,

Yeah man, that worked

Thanks for all and you patience..

Thanks again.


On 5/14/07, Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 07:25:34PM +0200, Alberich de megres wrote:
> > On 5/14/07, Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 06:12:12PM +0200, Alberich de megres wrote:
> > > > On 5/14/07, Joachim Schipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 12:41:18PM +0200, Alberich de megres
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And sorry to insist on this I'm really lost.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I read in most webs-docs with rdr rule trafic get redirected to
> > > > > > internal servers and with this and pass rule is enought. But i
> > > > > > find myself in a different scenario, with rdr rule and pass rule
> > > > > > packets get redirected to internal server with the same external
> > > > > > ip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With a tcpdump on internal server packets arrive to internal
> > > > > > server but this one don't ask it back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If i add a nat rule from any to internal server, the server logs
> > > > > > show me access only from firewall ip address ( logically ). Is
> > > > > > there some way to redirect external traffic to internal server
> and
> > > > > > the internal server to see external address ( for logs control,
> > > > > > and access without firewall rule...only on server machine ) and
> > > > > > all works fine?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't really see what you mean: is there a server with public
> > > address
> > > > > 1.2.3.4 behind a firewall with public address 1.2.3.1, and rules
> like
> > > > >
> > > > > rdr pass on $ext_if to $server $port1 -> $port2
> > > > > pass on $ext_if to $server port $port3
> > > > >
> > > > > In that case, that should just work.
> > >
> > > > No,
> > > >
> > > > There's a firewall with public address, and a server with internal
> > > address.
> > > >
> > > > firewall: 1.2.3.4
> > > > server: 192.168.1.1
> > >
> > > In that case,
> > >
> > > server = "192.168.1.1"
> > >
> > > rdr pass on $ext_if to $ext_if $port1 -> $server
> > > rdr pass on $ext_if to $ext_if $port2 -> $server $port3
> > >
> > > should work just fine. What is your /etc/pf.conf? And what doesn't
> work?
> > >
> > > (The underlying idea is that 'rdr pass' is very useful for simple
> cases,
> > > and one should be careful with NAT.)
> >
> > I tried this you told me, and that not works, i get a syntax error
> >
> > my pf.conf:
> >
> > #supose 10.0.0.254 is external address..
> > ext_if="sis0"
> > ext_carp_if="carp1"
> > int_if="rl0"
> > int_carp_if="carp0"
> >
> > nat on carp1 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any -> 10.0.0.254
> > rdr on sis0 inet proto tcp from any to 10.0.0.254 port 80 ->
> 192.168.1.69port 80
> >
> > pass all
>
> Why are you messing with CARP before the whole thing works at all? CARP
> is wonderful and not that difficult to set up, but there are a couple of
> gotchas in combining CARP and pf that are best dealt with once you know
> pf.conf works. At least the first time.
>
> Also, actually using the $ext_if macro might be more useful than just
> defining it; there is no magic there, it's just a common macro to
> define. 'pass all' is the default; no need to define it. Your handling
> of IPv6 makes little sense (why allow IPv4 to $server port 80, but
> handle IPv6 on the firewall? Either 'block drop inet6' or do without
> 'inet'). Finally, symbolic names are more readable: use 'http' instead
> of '80'.
>
> That said,
>
> ext_if=sis0
> int_if=rl0
> server=192.168.1.69
>
> nat on $ext_if from $int_if:network -> $ext_if
> rdr on $ext_if inet proto tcp to $ext_if port http -> $server
>
> should work for the no-CARP scenario. With CARP, that should become
> something like the below (not tested):
>
> ext_if_base=sis0
> ext_if_carp=carp1
> int_if_base=rl0
> int_if_carp=carp0
> server=192.168.1.69
>
> nat on $ext_if_base from $int_if_carp:network -> ($ext_if_carp)
> rdr on $ext_if_base proto tcp to $ext_if_carp port http -> $server
>
>Joachim
>
> --
> TFMotD: trek (6) - trekkie game



Re: Chaos Computer Camp 2007. Anyone going?

2007-05-15 Thread Andreas Bihlmaier
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:01:49PM +0200, Karl Sjvdahl - dunceor wrote:
> On 5/12/07, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >My german housemate has reccommneded the chaos computer camp to me.
> >Looks like a good laugh. A couple of my student buddies and myself are
> >thinking of coming.
> >
> >I see there is a "BSD village". Is that you lot? Would be nice to meet
> >some of the developers.
> >
> >--
> >Best Regards
> >
> >Edd
> >
> >---
> >http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett/
> >
> >
> 
> I think Wim is one of the organizers of the BSD Village. He was at WTH
> at least so I think he is involved. I doubt that they will miss that
> big event.
> 
> I'm hopening to go if I can get time of from work. I will be in the
> BSD village then if I go.

Is it necessary to do any kind of "reservation" for the BSD Village?
I would really enjoy hanging out with the OpenBSD devs/users and even to
learn/do some hacking.

I could ask Wim in private, but the answer could be of interest to other
people as well.

Regards,
ahb



Re: authpf wrong shell warning

2007-05-15 Thread Nick Holland
Lawrence Horvath wrote:
> I am trying to set up authpf. I created all the files however i would
> like to be able to login and then start authpf instead of having a
> separate user for authpf. when ever i try to start authpf after loging
> in with ssh i get the below error
> 
> May 14 22:03:31 freemon authpf: wrong shell for user lawrence.horvath, uid 
> 1002
> 
> how do i get it to be the "right" shell?
> 

authpf has some security checks which make sense in the general case,
but sometimes annoy in the specific case.  One of those checks is to
make sure it is the user's default shell, which is what you are
trying to avoid.

The nice thing about Open Source software is you can change code
you don't like or change it as you wish.  Be careful, however, this
was done for a reason.  From memory, if you can run authpf from a
command line, you can feed it any info you wish, including bogus
IP addresses, so user X coming from W.X.Y.Z could fire up authpf
for a user coming from A.B.C.D, without that user having to log in
at all...and that's bad in the general case.

However, sometimes you want things a little different than original
plans.  I run a very private IRC server, just some long-time friends
that (for the most part) all know each other in "real life".  These
users have reason to both have shell and IRC access to these machines.
In my case, I trust these users (at least on these machines), it's
the rest of the world I don't trust, so I've cut out some code from
authpf.c to enable authpf to be run from the command line, and even
backgrounded, so it will hold an IP open until the machine is rebooted
or until someone kill(1)s the authpf process.  VERY dangerous in the
general case, but ok for *my* application.

The authpf code is quite readable..look for the error message, look
at the code that generates it, and remove it.  There are a couple
other tests you probably need to remove as well in the same
immediate area.

There are the bullets.  Provide your own feet. :)

Nick.



Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:29:02 +0200
Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Timo Schoeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 13:47]:
> > On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
> > Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > * Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 00:03]:
> > > > * bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-14 21:54]:
> > > > > I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work
> > > > > in 32 bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I
> > > > > looking at possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am
> > > > > trying to build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague
> > > > > memories about this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box
> > > > > seems to boot, and network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure
> > > > > if I should spend some $ $ to buy another network card.
> > > > 
> > > > yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just
> > > > fine in 
> > >^^^
> > > that should read "many". there are cards that are NOT backwards 
> > > compatible.
> > > also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V
> > > ones.
> > 
> > as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
> > also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a
> > hammer or similar tools ;)
> 
> no, that is not true. there are some that fir physically but just do 
> not work unless they are in a 64bit slot. they will not be damanged
> by inserting them in a 32bit one, they'll just not work.

then one should throw them away anyways as being not compliant to specs.

> -- 
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> BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
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Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Henning Brauer
* Timo Schoeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 13:47]:
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
> Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > * Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 00:03]:
> > > * bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-14 21:54]:
> > > > I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32
> > > > bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at
> > > > possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to
> > > > build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague memories about
> > > > this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and
> > > > network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $
> > > > $ to buy another network card.
> > > 
> > > yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
> >^^^
> > that should read "many". there are cards that are NOT backwards 
> > compatible.
> > also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V ones.
> 
> as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
> also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a hammer
> or similar tools ;)

no, that is not true. there are some that fir physically but just do 
not work unless they are in a 64bit slot. they will not be damanged by 
inserting them in a 32bit one, they'll just not work.

-- 
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Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread bofh

On 5/15/07, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 00:03]:
> * bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-14 21:54]:
> > I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32 bit
> > slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at possible
> > issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to build a n old(er)
> > box, and on a whim (and vague memories about this working), stuck an
> > em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and network traffic seems to
> > flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $$ to buy another network card.
>
> yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in
   ^^^

Much thanx!


--
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-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.



Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 00:03]:
> > * bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-14 21:54]:
> > > I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32
> > > bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at
> > > possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to
> > > build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague memories about
> > > this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and
> > > network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $
> > > $ to buy another network card.
> > 
> > yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
>^^^
> that should read "many". there are cards that are NOT backwards 
> compatible.
> also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V ones.

as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a hammer
or similar tools ;)

timo

-- 
Line Printer paper is strongest at the perforations.



Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Henning Brauer
* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-15 00:03]:
> * bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-14 21:54]:
> > I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32 bit
> > slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at possible
> > issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to build a n old(er)
> > box, and on a whim (and vague memories about this working), stuck an
> > em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and network traffic seems to
> > flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $$ to buy another network card.
> 
> yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
   ^^^
that should read "many". there are cards that are NOT backwards 
compatible.
also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V ones.

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Re: Troubleshooting NAT on a VLAN interface

2007-05-15 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Tor Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I can get a DHCP address on the interface, and I appear to be able to
> connect to anywhere _from_ the host, but not through it. 

Just to eliminate the obvious - you /do/ have the required syctl.conf
magic and relevant pass rules in place?

-- 
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delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: SFTP no autocompletion?

2007-05-15 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:33:27AM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
| Hi there,
| 
| does SFTP have no TAB-autocompletion for local/remote files? TAB
| doesn't work. It makes transferring files very clumsy. And does SFTP
| secure my username and password or only my file transfers by default?

SFTP uses ssh and thus secures the entire connection. The sftp(1)
client that comes by default with OpenBSD does not do tabcompletion.
Feel free to use another client or to write support for it and send a
patch ;)

| Pieter Verberne
| 
| p.s. (my lines are longer than 72 caracters, is that a problem?)

Yes. You shouldn't. Why are you even asking and not just limiting your
lines to <72 chars ? Please read http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

-- 
>[<++>-]<+++.>+++[<-->-]<.>+++[<+
+++>-]<.>++[<>-]<+.--.[-]
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Re: Troubleshooting NAT on a VLAN interface

2007-05-15 Thread Jason Dixon
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:11:39 +0200, Tor Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to troubleshoot NAT on a VLAN interface (parent interface is
> xl0
> - a 3com 905). With OpenBSD 3.4 I got a 'initialized with non-standard mtu
> 1496' message with the same interface card, but with 4.1 this disappeared.
> 
> Does this mean "everything is fine, this card supports VLAN trunks", or
> should I be dubious and use something else (which one)?
> 
> I am not able to provide debug output at this minute, but essentially I
> can't seem to do NAT when vlan0 is set as the external interface ($ext_if;
> the suggested nat line in pf.conf(5) is used, with ext_if="vlan0").
> 
> I can get a DHCP address on the interface, and I appear to be able to
> connect to anywhere _from_ the host, but not through it.
> 
> A 'pfctl -s all' only shows me the static mappings (rdr's).

Then obviously there are no nat rules to perform translation.  Quit blaming it 
on hardware or vlan interfaces, it's probably just a broken ruleset.  Post your 
pf.conf (and optionally, your hostname.if files).

-- 
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net



SFTP no autocompletion?

2007-05-15 Thread Pieter Verberne
Hi there,

does SFTP have no TAB-autocompletion for local/remote files? TAB doesn't work. 
It makes transferring files very clumsy. And does SFTP secure my username and 
password or only my file transfers by default?

Pieter Verberne

p.s. (my lines are longer than 72 caracters, is that a problem?)



OT: flowcharts

2007-05-15 Thread mvdeventer
Hi all
I have an OT question for you guys.
Do any of you use flowcharting software, and if so what do you use?
I am just beginning to explore the world of programming and have so far
used Microsoft (spit) Visio. I tried both Kivio and Dia but they fall
short for me.
My code choices are (due to the course I am attending) limited to
JavaScript and pseudocode.
Any recommendations?
Marius.



Troubleshooting NAT on a VLAN interface

2007-05-15 Thread Tor Houghton
Hi,

I'm trying to troubleshoot NAT on a VLAN interface (parent interface is xl0
- a 3com 905). With OpenBSD 3.4 I got a 'initialized with non-standard mtu
1496' message with the same interface card, but with 4.1 this disappeared.

Does this mean "everything is fine, this card supports VLAN trunks", or
should I be dubious and use something else (which one)?

I am not able to provide debug output at this minute, but essentially I
can't seem to do NAT when vlan0 is set as the external interface ($ext_if;
the suggested nat line in pf.conf(5) is used, with ext_if="vlan0").

I can get a DHCP address on the interface, and I appear to be able to
connect to anywhere _from_ the host, but not through it. 

A 'pfctl -s all' only shows me the static mappings (rdr's).

Is my question too broad? I'm running 4.1 GENERIC, and the inside interface
is a dc; Linksys I think.

I can provide debug/configuration output once I am in a position to do so
later if this helps.

Thanks,

Tor



Re: OT: unix/openbsd printer support

2007-05-15 Thread Frank Brodbeck
Moin,

John Nietzsche has spoken, thus:
> I wonder if some here has already deployed such in openbsd environment
> and knows the site i am talking about.

I think http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting is what you are
looking for.

Regards,
Frank.

-- 
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