Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?
Marco Peereboom wrote: You are right about how awful all this stuff is. Man it seems like you should use an os that suits your goals a little better. I have heard that Linux offers awesome performance. based on the manner in which you routinely complain and provide zero deliverables, i must say that marco's suggestion is spot on. please join the ranks of all the rest of the feature-hungry talentless morons and just give up. if you have not figured out that you are a member of this group already you need to flash your brain bios so there is some hope of working around the parts that are obviously not working right. if you send another whining email about things that have already been discussed on this list i worry that you will break the misc@openbsd.org mailserver. don't be that guy. On Apr 24, 2009, at 17:12, sebastian.rot...@jpberlin.de wrote: I notice it for a while now that SVND is incredible slow related to WRITE SPEED. Also I do see a lot of biowait with top related to newfs for example. vnconfig -cK -S saltfile /dev/sd0d /dev/svnd1c disklabel -E svnd1 - a a - r - w - q newfs /dev/rsvnd1a If you've serval houndret GBs that gonna take a lng time. Also you can not restore a backup quickly because of the uberproor write performance (it feels like being slower then PIO 3..). On the other hand softraid can not handle partitions. At least it wont do it... bioctl -c C -l /dev/sd0d softraid0 Heyho invalid metadata format.. So what other choices does a OpenBSD user have to encrypt a HDD? Also: Did nobody else notice that? Don't others use these functions? :-) And as a side note to softraid: Also it might be clever to add MORE then 1 softraid device. Some people might have more then 1 HDD... :-) Kind regards, Sebastian
Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:08:54PM +0300, donc...@elmed.pub.ro wrote: Unfortunately you can't use OpenBSD yet to connect to Vodafone's 3G internet mobile even if there is already an Huawei E220 shiny new driver. That is because OBSD has an archaic pppd implementation (ver. 2.3.5) wich lacks some important parameters like usepeerdns, noipv6, etc. Ask the developers to update pppd at latest version 2.4.4 so we can all enjoy our favorite OS with Vodafone's 3G. Cheers ! Fortunately it works for me. Change your archaic mind. -- Olivier Cherrier mailto:o...@symacx.com
Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 05:36:08PM +0300, donc...@elmed.pub.ro wrote: Wow ! It would be very nice if you could post your setup files for pppd to m...@. There are many people interested. Thank you in advance ! Wow, it would be also nice if you could learn to search before asking. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech -- Olivier Cherrier mailto:o...@symacx.com
Re: rt.fm ftp server dumps core
hmm, on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 08:48:31AM -0600, Jeff Ross said that For a while now I've been getting segmentation faults when I try to download snapshots from rt.fm i had problems with rf.fm as well. dropping ftp connections in the middle of transfer and making cvs go wild. i was not sure if this was my fault or not so i just switched away from it. -f -- i'll mention you on my organ donor card.
Re: ftp-proxy IPSEC clients?
I have been doing more reading, and I notice that man enc states: Packets destined to be IPsec processed are seen by the filer/translation engine twice, both before and after being IPsec processed. If a packet's translated address on the way back fails to match an existing IPsec flow, from the translated address to the original source address, it will be discarded by the filter. It is best to avoid this situation where possible, though a flow may be explicitly created to work around it. It sounds like I can setup another flow to allow my rdr rule to work with the enc0 traffic, but I'm not sure what this flow would look like. Can anyone provide an example of the flow, or explain what the redirected traffic looks like on the enc0 interface? I worry that I will need a flow with 127.0.0.1 specified, and that may not be possible on the remote end. Thanks, Cam Cameron Schaus wrote: Hello Misc, I have an OpenBSD 4.4 firewall with some clients connecting via IPSEC. Some clients have flows established to servers not on the local LAN, and these clients are natted through the internet interface to access these servers. It's a bit convoluted, but things work, except of course for ftp. I configured the ftp-proxy for clients on the local lan and openvpn clients (tun0), but I cannot appear to use ftp-proxy with IPSEC clients (enc0). I want to use a line such as: rdr on enc0 proto tcp from any to any port 21 - 127.0.0.1 port 8021 When this is in place, IPSEC clients cannot even connect to the ftp server. I suspect there are some problems with this approach, since the man pages show matching with ipencap, but you can't do tcp port redirects with only ip encapsulated matching. I am at a bit of a loss here, and I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to proxy the IPSEC ftp traffic, or if there are any other options I have at this point. Thanks, Cam
Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN
* openbsder openbs...@gmail.com [2009-04-24 12:19]: Recently, it has been suggested that a transparent firewall implementation is ideal where possible. But as far as I understand, transparency is only available when the firewall acts as a bridge between TWO networks. How would I keep my DMZ and LAN both while using a bridging firewall. Is it even possible? yes. lots of idiots do it. bridging is stupid. don't. there are cases where you can't avoid it, but deliberately? about as clever as knowingly drinking methanol. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: RadiusClient
Guys, I have downloaded and compiled radiusclient on OpenBSD: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/freeradius-client-1.1.6.tar.bz2 But, on OpenBSD, the ppp package is installed by default, and does not have these following libraries needed for poptop radius authentication: radius.so radattr.so These libraries comes on package ppp for Ubuntu / Debian. Anyone knows how can I get the source code of them? My pptpd.conf.options file: auth name pptpd refuse-pap refuse-chap refuse-mschap require-mschap-v2 require-mppe-128 proxyarp debug lock nobsdcomp *plugin radius.so plugin radattr.so* radius-config-file /etc/radiusclient/radiusclient.conf 2009/4/24 Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org On 2009-04-24, Bruno Galindro da Costa bruno.galin...@gmail.com wrote: # pkg_info -Q radius freeradius-2.0.5 freeradius-iodbc-2.0.5 freeradius-ldap-2.0.5 freeradius-mysql-2.0.5 freeradius-pgsql-2.0.5 mod_auth_radius-1.5.7p4 p5-Authen-Radius-0.05p1 p5-Net-Radius-1.56 radiusd-cistron-1.6.7p1 radiusd-lucent-2.1p8 radiusniff-0.2 radiusreport-0.3b6p0 Can I use freeradius-2.0.5 to do wath I want? This package contains the radius client? no, that's a server. I've got a work-in-progress port of freeradius-client, but it's not ready for public consumption yet. -- Att. Bruno Galindro da Costa bruno.galin...@gmail.com Florianspolis - SC
Re: European orders(Sweden) - nohup.se
Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: Hello misc@, it has been almost a week since I sent an invoice for OpenBSD 4.5 CD/t-shirt to nohup.se. Did you really mean you sent an _invoice_ to them? Well, there is no answer so far and the webpage is outdated and promoting old releases. Any one from Sweden has ever successfully ordered anything from this site lately? Any other (successful) paths available? No idea about that though, sorry. My 4.5 was ordered via kd85. //maxim
isdn/dsl pci cards? (I4b)
Hi, I just got myself a Sun Netra X1 Sparc64 1U server. I wonder if I could use it to either connect to my DSL provider directly (using a DSL-PCI-card, such as this one: http://tinyurl.com/cqddxj). However, I did not find much information about which cards are actually supported by OpenBSD? Furthermore, I want to log isdn traffic. Therefore I was thinking to either use the Fritz DSL hybrid DSL/isdn card mentioned above, or, if that wouldn't work, to plug in a dedicated FritzPCI ISDN card into the box. Are those cards supported by either OpenBSD and/or I4b? Thanks for any hints, Chris
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Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: bridging is stupid. don't. there are cases where you can't avoid it, but deliberately? about as clever as knowingly drinking methanol. Hello Henning, Sorry for asking, but just to make sure I understand your statement, do you mean, bridging straight and simple between your internal network and the big bad internet, of bridging on 2 lans or more to the outside? Cheers, Steph
Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access
Wow ! It would be very nice if you could post your setup files for pppd to m...@. There are many people interested. Thank you in advance ! - Original Message - From: Olivier Cherrier o...@symacx.com To: don cipo donc...@elmed.pub.ro Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:56 AM Subject: Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:08:54PM +0300, donc...@elmed.pub.ro wrote: Unfortunately you can't use OpenBSD yet to connect to Vodafone's 3G internet mobile even if there is already an Huawei E220 shiny new driver. That is because OBSD has an archaic pppd implementation (ver. 2.3.5) wich lacks some important parameters like usepeerdns, noipv6, etc. Ask the developers to update pppd at latest version 2.4.4 so we can all enjoy our favorite OS with Vodafone's 3G. Cheers ! Fortunately it works for me. Change your archaic mind. -- Olivier Cherrier mailto:o...@symacx.com
Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM, sebastian.rot...@jpberlin.de wrote:
If you've serval houndret GBs that gonna take a lng time.
Also you can not restore a backup quickly because of the uberproor write
performance (it feels like being slower then PIO 3..).
crypto is slow. what else is new?
I do not talk about a P2 266Mhz System here nor do I think that a loss of
even 20% write performence is slow anyway but a write speed of like
1-3MB/s on a modern SATA HDD on a IBM Thinkpad x61s can't be it.
The bug was introduced somehow between 4.1 and 4.2 (my guess).
svnd worked normaly before.
So what if they do?
Then you might like to add: softraid{1,2,3}
I did not understand yet why softraid is listed in
/usr/src/sys/conf/GENERIC but the raidframe devices are listed in
/usr/src/sys/arch/$ARCH/conf/GENERIC ?
Maybe softraid is that generell avaiable that it belongs to the other
configuration file but the default value for the raidframe pseudo devices
is 4.
Also there's no possibility yet to use striping and crypto dicipline with
softraid. I once asked Marco if he every tried ccd+softraid (crypto) but
that was related to my svnd mail as well and I received never a answer if
he tested it or is interested into testing results.
Kind regards,
Sebastian
Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access
Yup... you're right. Thanks for your reply ! These are my setup files: r...@gate:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone hide-password noauth connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat debug noccp nobsdcomp novj /dev/ttyUSB0 460800 lock crtscts modem holdoff 5 persist usepeerdns defaultroute user internet.vodafone.ro password vodafone ipcp-accept-local ipcp-accept-remote noipdefault noipv6 r...@gate:~# cat /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED '' ATZ OK 'ATFE0V1X1D2C1 s0=0' #scoatere pin din minicom #AT+CPIN= #AT+CLCK=SC,0, #ptr. pin #OK 'AT+CPIN=1234' OK 'ATE1' OK 'AT+cgdcont=1,IP,internet.vodafone.ro' OK-AT-OK ATDT*99***1# CONNECT \d\c They work with Slackware 12.2 (pppd ver. 2.4.4) very well. It would be nice if someone get this working on OpenBSD. - Original Message - From: Fred Crowson fred.crow...@googlemail.com To: don cipo donc...@elmed.pub.ro Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:10 AM Subject: Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access On 4/24/09, don cipo donc...@elmed.pub.ro wrote: Unfortunately you can't use OpenBSD yet to connect to Vodafone's 3G internet mobile even if there is already an Huawei E220 shiny new driver. That is because OBSD has an archaic pppd implementation (ver. 2.3.5) wich lacks some important parameters like usepeerdns, noipv6, etc. Ask the developers to update pppd at latest version 2.4.4 so we can all enjoy our favorite OS with Vodafone's 3G. Cheers ! Where's your evidence? I'm not convinced your right [1] error messages and configuration files that caused the failure might help get the issue fixed - if there is one. Fred [1] http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=E220q=b -- http://www.crowsons.com/puters/E169.htm
Re: aucat's volume-sharing algorithm
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:29:02AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: I'm playing with the new aucat. Or rather, running it, since unlike every other soundserver it doesn't require endless tweaking to just work. There is one issue I'm having, and I'm not sure if it's on purpose or not. Whenever (say) pidgin (or anything else) plays sound my music dims in volume. It makes sense the clients have to be turned down so two playing at 100% don't blow the speakers, but the trouble is the dip in sound is -really obvious-. I found -v volume Software volume attenuation of the playback stream. The value must be between 1 and 127, corresponding to -42dB and -0dB atten- uation. In server mode, clients inherit this parameter. Reduc- ing the volume in advance reduces a client's dynamic range, but allows client volume to stay independent from the number of clients as long as their number is small enough. A good compro- mise is to use -4dB attenuation (12 volume units) for each addi- tional client expected (115 if 2 clients are expected, 103 for 3 clients, and so on). which I interpret as saying that if I run aucat as aucat -l -v 50 it should predim the volume of any client that connects so that the dip doesn't happen. If I'm right about that (which I'm not at all sure that I am) then aucat is behaving badly because I even tried giving -v 1 and heard no change at all. currently the -v options applies to audio streams, ie to files or sockets, example: aucat -l -v 91 -s default if no -s options are used, a default socket is created with the default parameters (max volume and so on), that should be change imo. -Nick p.s. I know the manpage suggests sharing the sound device is a bad plan but I just have a simple home system and I'd like to know if aucat gives me the freedom to run multiple users against it (I could come up with lots of justifications, like letting the daemons we summon speak, but really it's just curiousity). It seems like all it would take is redirecting libsndio to point at the right socket, but because the socket is in /tmp/aucat-$USER_ID/ I don't see how this is possible. Can libsndio be told what socket to use? i've the same problem here, but there's no way to have shared sockets yet. Mainly because this causes integration issues. Hopefully that will be fixed one day. -- Alexandre
Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?
Marco Peereboom wrote: You are right about how awful all this stuff is. Man it seems like you should use an os that suits your goals a little better. I have heard that Linux offers awesome performance. based on the manner in which you routinely complain and provide zero deliverables, i must say that marco's suggestion is spot on. please join the ranks of all the rest of the feature-hungry talentless morons and just give up. if you have not figured out that you are a member of this group already you need to flash your brain bios so there is some hope of working around the parts that are obviously not working right. if you send another whining email about things that have already been discussed on this list i worry that you will break the misc@openbsd.org mailserver. don't be that guy. That is total crap. I wrote Marco personaly, provided all informations and asked if he needs further benchmarks or what-so-ever. Please do not line up to the lines of people critic me without knowing what I did off-list. It's like the PF bug you know? You write a developer.. you receive no answer and the patch which gets released does not even fix the affected codebase but add's a workaround. But related to the svnd it should be something YOU should be able to confirm too. Also others confirmed the existence of the issue as well (+me). http://groups.google.com.ua/group/mailing.openbsd.bugs/browse_thread/thread/0348c42850b1732e http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2008-06/1740.html And so on... I even wrote Marco personaly so stop the rant. :-) I gonna do again a bonnie++ benchmark and again I will post my DMESG and again that will solve nothing. But the benchmark will take some hours anyway. Everybody should be able to confirm that the write speed is not slower. It seriously feels like PIO MODE 3-4 and fsck brings you a lot biowait complains. And that is HW indipendent here so the svnd-Code suffers from some kind of a bug. How do I come to that awesome analyse? I browsed the mailinglist archives and found complains by svnd users just after 4.2 Example: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2007/11/14/412688/thread#mid-412688 And IF crypto IS slower and IF i just have to life with it: How come softraid0 using a more complex and slower algorithm is faster then the svnd and svnd gets slower and slower each release... But as I said: Gonna benchmark (again..) but that takes time... Kind regards, Sebastian
soekris 5501, ral(4) and 4.5-current
Hi, I have a ral(4) acting as a hostap. The problems began since ugrading from Feb 28th snapshot to April 10th (and higher). I have a Soekris 5501. I bought 2 different ral(4) PCI cards, one is a RT2661 and the other is a RT2860 (Planex GW-DS3300N). The RT2661 actually lasts longer than the RT2860. When I have the RT2860 in the box, it doesn't matter whether I use no encryption, WEP, WPA1 or WPA2. The box locks up without any kind of drop into ddb. When the RT2661 is in the machine, it will stay up a day, maybe two tops before it locks solid. I have done quite a few updates since April 10th but I'm seriously considering just wiping and going to 4.5-release when it comes out in a few days in hopes that it will be more reliable. I originally went to -current for the ral(4) and vr(4) fixes. Obligatory dmesg with the RT2661 in follows. Any help would be appreciated! Regards, Tom OpenBSD 4.5-current (GENERIC) #102: Sat Apr 25 01:26:24 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (AuthenticAMD 586-class) 500 MHz cpu0: FPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,CX8,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CFLUSH,MMX real mem = 536440832 (511MB) avail mem = 510394368 (486MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 20/80/26, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfac40 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable. pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc8000/0xa800 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) amdmsr0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) io address conflict 0x6100/0x100 io address conflict 0x6200/0x200 extent `pciio' (0x0 - 0x), flags=0 0x6000 - 0x7fff 0xe000 - 0xe00f 0xe100 - 0xe4ff extent `pcimem' (0x0 - 0x), flags=0 0x0 - 0x9 0xf - 0x1fff 0xa000 - 0xa00043ff 0xa0008000 - 0xa0011fff 0xfff0 - 0x pchb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 AMD Geode LX rev 0x33 glxsb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 AMD Geode LX Crypto rev 0x00: RNG AES vr0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 VIA VT6105M RhineIII rev 0x96: irq 11, address 00 :00:24:cb:a6:64 ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0034 vr1 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT6105M RhineIII rev 0x96: irq 5, address 00: 00:24:cb:a6:65 ukphy1 at vr1 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0034 vr2 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 VIA VT6105M RhineIII rev 0x96: irq 9, address 00: 00:24:cb:a6:66 ukphy2 at vr2 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0034 vr3 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 VIA VT6105M RhineIII rev 0x96: irq 12, address 00 :00:24:cb:a6:67 ukphy3 at vr3 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 3: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0034 ral0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Ralink RT2661 rev 0x00: irq 10, address 00:14:8 5:d5:39:bb ral0: MAC/BBP RT2661D, RF RT2529 (MIMO XR) glxpcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 AMD CS5536 ISA rev 0x03: rev 0, 32-bit 3579 545Hz timer, watchdog, gpio gpio0 at glxpcib0: 32 pins pciide0 at pci0 dev 20 function 2 AMD CS5536 IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wire d to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD1200BEVS-00VAT0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ohci0 at pci0 dev 21 function 0 AMD CS5536 USB rev 0x02: irq 15, version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 21 function 1 AMD CS5536 USB rev 0x02: irq 15 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 AMD EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at glxpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 nsclpcsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: NSC PC87366 rev 9: GPIO VLM TMS gpio1 at nsclpcsio0: 29 pins npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 AMD OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 biomask e1c5 netmask ffe5 ttymask mtrr: K6-family MTRR support (2 registers) softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
internal vs. external microphone: very different signal levels
Hi all, I am doing some trivial sound-recording on my Compaq Armada 110 laptop (dmesg and mixerctl below). The sound device is auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 9 audio0 at auvia0 and it works without problems. Now, the laptop has an internal microphone - that tiny little hole you have seen on some laptops. It records fine, set up as inputs.mic=255 inputs.mic.mute=off inputs.mic.preamp=on inputs.mic.source=mic0 record.source=mic The laptop also has an input for an external mike (the usual small jack, just next to the headphones output). When you plug in an external mike, the audio chip is smart enough to record from that one, and no longer record from the internal mike. (I use Shure SM57 as the external mike, which I believe is irrelevant.) Recording with the external mike plugged in works fine too, EXCEPT the signal level from the external mike is much weaker, and I wonder why. Can it be that the (one) audio input the laptop has is meant as an universal audio input for both mic and line-in, expecting a much stronger signal? For the internal mike, having inputs.mic.preamp=off/on makes a difference of recording just fine vs. recording a dog barking two blocks away. With the external mike, it makes a difference of barely audible recording vs. fine recording. With headphones on, you can hear the signal strength drop when you plug in the external mike. Thanks Jan OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC) #0: Sun Mar 8 18:49:45 CET 2009 r...@armada.stare.cz:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class, 128KB L2 cache) 847 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 259551232 (247MB) avail mem = 242520064 (231MB) User Kernel Config UKC disable acpi 429 acpi0 disabled UKC enable apm 330 apm0 enabled UKC quit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/20/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd720, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xe9f90 (17 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 0F08 date 08/20/2001 bios0: Compaq 110 series apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd720/0x8e0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf70/112 (5 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xcc000/0x1800 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8601 PCI rev 0x05 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C601 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Trident CyberBlade i1 AGP rev 0x6a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) agp0 at vga1: v2, aperture at 0xf800, size 0x1000 drm at vga1 unsupported pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IC25N015ATDA04-0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 14403MB, 29498112 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: QSI, CD-ROM SCR-242, CCA1 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 11 viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30: HWM disabled: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 9 ac97: codec id 0x41445348 (Analog Devices AD1881A) ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo audio0 at auvia0 fxp0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x09, i82559S: irq 11, address 00:d0:59:80:c6:e5 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 ATT/Lucent LTMODEM rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 9 function 1 not configured cbb0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 TI PCI1410 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer
Re: E220 as 3G Internet Access
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM, don cipo donc...@elmed.pub.ro wrote: Yup... you're right. Thanks for your reply ! These are my setup files: You were pointed to search the archives of the list, i suggest you do so. Cheers, Steph
Re: soekris 5501, ral(4) and 4.5-current
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:02:06PM +0100, Tom wrote: Hi, I have a ral(4) acting as a hostap. The problems began since ugrading from Feb 28th snapshot to April 10th (and higher). I have a Soekris 5501. I bought 2 different ral(4) PCI cards, one is a RT2661 and the other is a RT2860 (Planex GW-DS3300N). The RT2661 actually lasts longer than the RT2860. When I have the RT2860 in the box, it doesn't matter whether I use no encryption, WEP, WPA1 or WPA2. The box locks up without any kind of drop into ddb. When the RT2661 is in the machine, it will stay up a day, maybe two tops before it locks solid. Interesting, I've got exactly the same problem with an rt2860. I thought it was just bad hardware (suspecting the rt2860), or temperature issues, and pulled out the card. The machine's been rock-solid since (d'oh).
Re: internal vs. external microphone: very different signal levels
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:15:33PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: Hi all, I am doing some trivial sound-recording on my Compaq Armada 110 laptop (dmesg and mixerctl below). The sound device is auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 9 audio0 at auvia0 for ac97 devices, the codec is also very important. although the AD1881A looks pretty standard. no jack sense or anything. and it works without problems. Now, the laptop has an internal microphone - that tiny little hole you have seen on some laptops. It records fine, set up as inputs.mic=255 inputs.mic.mute=off inputs.mic.preamp=on inputs.mic.source=mic0 record.source=mic The laptop also has an input for an external mike (the usual small jack, just next to the headphones output). When you plug in an external mike, the audio chip is smart enough to record from that one, and no longer record from the internal mike. (I use Shure SM57 as the external mike, which I believe is irrelevant.) Recording with the external mike plugged in works fine too, EXCEPT the signal level from the external mike is much weaker, and I wonder why. maybe there is a separate preamp on the internal mic pin? Can it be that the (one) audio input the laptop has is meant as an universal audio input for both mic and line-in, expecting a much stronger signal? maybe ... what does inputs.line* affect? or record.source=line? For the internal mike, having inputs.mic.preamp=off/on makes a difference of recording just fine vs. recording a dog barking two blocks away. With the external mike, it makes a difference of barely audible recording vs. fine recording. With headphones on, you can hear the signal strength drop when you plug in the external mike. does changing inputs.mic.source have any effect? Thanks Jan OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC) #0: Sun Mar 8 18:49:45 CET 2009 r...@armada.stare.cz:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class, 128KB L2 cache) 847 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 259551232 (247MB) avail mem = 242520064 (231MB) User Kernel Config UKC disable acpi 429 acpi0 disabled UKC enable apm 330 apm0 enabled UKC quit Continuing... mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/20/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd720, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xe9f90 (17 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 0F08 date 08/20/2001 bios0: Compaq 110 series apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd720/0x8e0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf70/112 (5 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xcc000/0x1800 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8601 PCI rev 0x05 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C601 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Trident CyberBlade i1 AGP rev 0x6a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) agp0 at vga1: v2, aperture at 0xf800, size 0x1000 drm at vga1 unsupported pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C686 ISA rev 0x22 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IC25N015ATDA04-0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 14403MB, 29498112 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: QSI, CD-ROM SCR-242, CCA1 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x10: irq 11 viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 VIA VT82C686 SMBus rev 0x30: HWM disabled: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz auvia0 at pci0 dev 7 function 5 VIA VT82C686 AC97 rev 0x20: irq 9 ac97: codec id 0x41445348 (Analog Devices AD1881A) ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo audio0 at auvia0 fxp0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x09, i82559S: irq 11, address 00:d0:59:80:c6:e5 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 ATT/Lucent LTMODEM rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 9 function 1 not configured cbb0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 TI PCI1410 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for
Re: isdn/dsl pci cards? (I4b)
On 2009-04-25, Christopher Intemann intem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just got myself a Sun Netra X1 Sparc64 1U server. I wonder if I could use it to either connect to my DSL provider directly (using a DSL-PCI-card, such as this one: http://tinyurl.com/cqddxj). In a word: No. However, I did not find much information about which cards are actually supported by OpenBSD? Furthermore, I want to log isdn traffic. Therefore I was thinking to either use the Fritz DSL hybrid DSL/isdn card mentioned above, or, if that wouldn't work, to plug in a dedicated FritzPCI ISDN card into the box. Are those cards supported by either OpenBSD and/or I4b? i4b was dropped from OpenBSD quite some time ago.
Re: RadiusClient
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:21:31PM -0300, Bruno Galindro da Costa wrote: Guys, I have downloaded and compiled radiusclient on OpenBSD: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/freeradius-client-1.1.6.tar.bz2 But, on OpenBSD, the ppp package is installed by default, and does not have these following libraries needed for poptop radius authentication: radius.so radattr.so These libraries comes on package ppp for Ubuntu / Debian. Anyone knows how can I get the source code of them? The userland ppp implementation in OpenBSD has nothing todo with what you see on Linux. It comes with radius support builtin but as I have never ever used it don't ask me how to set it up. Read the manpage it is documented there. My pptpd.conf.options file: auth name pptpd refuse-pap refuse-chap refuse-mschap require-mschap-v2 require-mppe-128 proxyarp debug lock nobsdcomp *plugin radius.so plugin radattr.so* radius-config-file /etc/radiusclient/radiusclient.conf Not sure if ppp(8) is able to do pptp maybe somebody else knows. -- :wq Claudio
Re: European orders(Sweden) - nohup.se
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Maxim Bourmistrov maxim.bourmist...@unixconn.com wrote: Hello misc@, hi! it has been almost a week since I sent an invoice for OpenBSD 4.5 CD/t-shirt to nohup.se. Well, there is no answer so far and the webpage is outdated and promoting old releases. their webpage doesn't even load for me. have you paid them already? Any one from Sweden has ever successfully ordered anything from this site lately? Any other (successful) paths available? i received my obsd 4.5 set from http://www.openbsdeurope.com got good service from them. //maxim thanks --robert
alternate shell not running
I'm running OpenBSD 4.4 Stable and have created a little shell script menu program that I want certain users to have as their only interaction with the system. I created users using the script as their shell and also put it in /etc/shells but when the user logs in they get a standard shell. I was testing it through ssh so I thought maybe it had something to do with the environment but the same thing happens when I log in locally. If log in as root and then su - username the script runs as expected. Is this the wrong way to do this? Would it be better putting something in the .profile? Can anyone shed any light as to why this is happening? Thanks, Aaron Martinez
Re: RadiusClient
On 2009-04-25, Bruno Galindro da Costa bruno.galin...@gmail.com wrote: I have downloaded and compiled radiusclient on OpenBSD: ftp://ftp.freeradius.org/pub/freeradius/freeradius-client-1.1.6.tar.bz2 its local-ip-address detection is somewhat broken on OpenBSD, btw. my WIP port sort-of works, but you have to specify the address manually. But, on OpenBSD, the ppp package is installed by default, and does not have these following libraries needed for poptop radius authentication: oh, poptop uses an external ppp daemon? if it can use ppp(8) (user-ppp), your battle is won, as it already supports radius... These libraries comes on package ppp for Ubuntu / Debian. Anyone knows how can I get the source code of them? www.samba.org/ppp; we are somewhat behind the cutting edge.
Re: soekris 5501, ral(4) and 4.5-current
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Jochem Kossen jochem.kos...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I've got exactly the same problem with an rt2860. I thought it was just bad hardware (suspecting the rt2860), or temperature issues, and pulled out the card. The machine's been rock-solid since (d'oh). For me eworks, snapshot from 28/02/2009, rock stable (ral card running as AP with WPA-PSK): ral0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:12:0e:61:4a:70 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT5225 Cheers, Steph
Re: soekris 5501, ral(4) and 4.5-current
Same problem here with an RT2860. Lars
isdn/dsl pci cards? (I4b)
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.orgwrote: However, I did not find much information about which cards are actually supported by OpenBSD? Furthermore, I want to log isdn traffic. Therefore I was thinking to either use the Fritz DSL hybrid DSL/isdn card mentioned above, or, if that wouldn't work, to plug in a dedicated FritzPCI ISDN card into the box. Are those cards supported by either OpenBSD and/or I4b? i4b was dropped from OpenBSD quite some time ago. Oh. That's too bad. Why is that? I mean why drop something that is working and might be of need for at least some people? Anyway. As it doesn't matter why - is there any documentation about how to compile a kernel module for PCI ISDN-cards? Which is the latest kernel with *official* ISDN-support, and which ISDN card would be recommended for *BSD? If ISDN/i4b is still maintained on FreeBSD, it should not be to much of an effort to get it running on OpenBSD as well, right? Thanks, Chris
Re: svnd is incredible slow... somebody else notice that?
sebastian.rot...@jpberlin.de wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM, sebastian.rot...@jpberlin.de wrote: If you've serval houndret GBs that gonna take a lng time. Also you can not restore a backup quickly because of the uberproor write performance (it feels like being slower then PIO 3..). crypto is slow. what else is new? I do not talk about a P2 266Mhz System here nor do I think that a loss of even 20% write performence is slow anyway but a write speed of like 1-3MB/s on a modern SATA HDD on a IBM Thinkpad x61s can't be it. The bug was introduced somehow between 4.1 and 4.2 (my guess). svnd worked normaly before. One suggestion that would may be taken more seriously if what you say is true would be to actually go back in time and do binary search of VCS changes to show, Here diff 1.xxx on what ever date was fas, then with that diff, new results and that will give you something to work with and that may be then someone might look into it. That's hard evidence and that actually would/could be useful. That approached takes times, your time and would actually be much more productive if you actually believe it's a bug and if you actually would like it to be solved, again assuming there is a new bug. I do this time to time when I try to track something that changed and that affected, or could have affected something else and when you provide the results like that, you have much more change to be taken seriously oppose to be ignore as you provide nothing here more then compare OpenBSD with some other OS and you will only get a legit reply as to go use that other OS then if that's what you are after. Now you th9nk this bug (if any here) was introduce between 4.1 and 4.2. Well, all the changes are in CVS and if you can pin point it and show it to be real, then you will have the attention of someone that will look into it IF you can prove your point and show the diff that introduce what you think is a bug. Just my $0.02 worth if you actually want to be productive at it and best yet, be consider as a bug and get fix, if that's the case obviously. Without hard proof, you will not get or convince anyone to even look into it. Hope this help you some. Best, Daniel
Re: isdn/dsl pci cards? (I4b)
Oh. That's too bad. Why is that? I mean why drop something that is working and might be of need for at least some people? Wow, you sure like to make presumptions. It was dropped because it was unmaintained and unmaintainable. It did not fit into the system, and it did not work. Anyway. As it doesn't matter why - is there any documentation about how to compile a kernel module for PCI ISDN-cards? We would not know. We don't use it. Which is the latest kernel with *official* ISDN-support, and which ISDN card would be recommended for *BSD? I dunno, ten years ago? If it worked at all, that is. If ISDN/i4b is still maintained on FreeBSD, it should not be to much of an effort to get it running on OpenBSD as well, right? You'd be surprised. Thing is, you won't get help here.
RIT's mirror
This may not be technically the right place to discuss a mirror, but the mirror list has no traffic since 2004. The RIT mirror is providing 4.2 sets from it's snapshots directory. Should they still be listed? -- Ed Ahlsen-Girard Ft. Walton Beach FL
OpenBSD on Sun Netra X1
Hi, does anyone here have experience with OpenBSD on a Sun Netra X1 server? I read somewhere that it does only support hard drives up to 137GB of size. Is there any way to avoid this restriction? I read somewhere (else) that using a PCI-IDE controller could do the trick. However could not find any information if I could boot from discs connected via a PCI-IDE controller. Any hints? Thanks, Chris
Re: alternate shell not running
On 4/25/09, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: I'm running OpenBSD 4.4 Stable and have created a little shell script menu program that I want certain users to have as their only interaction with the system. I created users using the script as their shell and also put it in /etc/shells but when the user logs in they get a standard shell. I was testing it through ssh so I thought maybe it had something to do with the environment but the same thing happens when I log in locally. If log in as root and then su - username the script runs as expected. Is this the wrong way to do this? Would it be better putting something in the .profile? Can anyone shed any light as to why this is happening? Thanks, Aaron Martinez As a mind reader I'm guessing permissions... some more info might make it less of a guess
Re: alternate shell not running
On 4/25/09, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: I'm running OpenBSD 4.4 Stable and have created a little shell script menu program that I want certain users to have as their only interaction with the system. I created users using the script as their shell and also put it in /etc/shells but when the user logs in they get a standard shell. I was testing it through ssh so I thought maybe it had something to do with the environment but the same thing happens when I log in locally. If log in as root and then su - username the script runs as expected. Is this the wrong way to do this? Would it be better putting something in the .profile? Can anyone shed any light as to why this is happening? Thanks, Aaron Martinez As a mind reader I'm guessing permissions... some more info might make it less of a guess I suppose it could be permissions, but the file/script is located in /usr/local/bin with permissions set to 755. Additionally, when i log in as one of the restricted users that are supposed to have the script as their shell, i have no problem running the script if i call it manually. What additional information would be helpful? I'd be glad to provide it. Aaron
Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:src Changes by: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/04/25 11:36:48 Modified files: etc: Makefile Added files: etc/root : dot.Xdefaults etc/skel : dot.Xdefaults Log message: Provide users by default with XTerm*loginShell:true. This situation just is ridiculous; xdm is totally broken since it never starts anything which resembles a login shell. As a result, no configuration is brought into a process context to give to future xterms or *sh shells and thus cause them to run their .profile or .kshrc or such a thing, to get futher configuration. Therefore people are left with a totally bland unconfigured Unix environment in their xterms, and don't know how to change this since .profile is ignored. This problem shows hundreds of thousands of google hits. xdm is fundamentally broken, but we must solve this also for the startx methods, too, and for people running csh. It is clear that .xsession is not a solution to this problem at all (that is, assuming the people who suggest such a thing really mean a .xsession file with the execute bit set). This now becomes the recommended way for new users to get out of this stupid situation; if someone does not like it they can change it or delete it. Few will. Just watch. ok kettenis guenther millert Wouldn't replacing '#!/bin/sh' with '#!/bin/sh -l' in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc work too? I'm using the former, I haven't used startx for years, so the latter I haven't tried. Wouldn't setting xterm to a login shell only solve one problem, the other would be the environment for the window manager (and for ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc), e.g. requiring full paths for binaries outside of the default (not the user) PATH amongst other things?
Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:src Changes by: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/04/25 11:36:48 Modified files: etc: Makefile Added files: etc/root : dot.Xdefaults etc/skel : dot.Xdefaults Log message: Provide users by default with XTerm*loginShell:true. This situation just is ridiculous; xdm is totally broken since it never starts anything which resembles a login shell. As a result, no configuration is brought into a process context to give to future xterms or *sh shells and thus cause them to run their .profile or .kshrc or such a thing, to get futher configuration. Therefore people are left with a totally bland unconfigured Unix environment in their xterms, and don't know how to change this since .profile is ignored. This problem shows hundreds of thousands of google hits. xdm is fundamentally broken, but we must solve this also for the startx methods, too, and for people running csh. It is clear that .xsession is not a solution to this problem at all (that is, assuming the people who suggest such a thing really mean a .xsession file with the execute bit set). This now becomes the recommended way for new users to get out of this stupid situation; if someone does not like it they can change it or delete it. Few will. Just watch. ok kettenis guenther millert Wouldn't replacing '#!/bin/sh' with '#!/bin/sh -l' in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc work too? What would that solve? That isn't the users shell. I'm using the former, I haven't used startx for years, so the latter I haven't tried. I don't understand where people like you come from. If you want to spew advice, why don't you TRY IT FIRST YOURSELF? Wouldn't setting xterm to a login shell only solve one problem, the other would be the environment for the window manager (and for ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc), e.g. requiring full paths for binaries outside of the default (not the user) PATH amongst other things? You didn't even read.
Re: alternate shell not running
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: I'm running OpenBSD 4.4 Stable and have created a little shell script menu program that I want certain users to have as their only interaction with the system. I created users using the script as their shell and also put it in /etc/shells but when the user logs in they get a standard shell. I was testing it through ssh so I thought maybe it had something to do with the environment but the same thing happens when I log in locally. If log in as root and then su - username the script runs as expected. Is this the wrong way to do this? Would it be better putting something in the .profile? Can anyone shed any light as to why this is happening? Works for me: $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/foo -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 55 Apr 25 17:25 /usr/local/bin/foo $ cat /usr/local/bin/foo #!/bin/sh echo hello! read help echo $help exit 0 $ grep testing /etc/passwd testing:*:1009:1009:Test User,,,:/home/users/testing:/usr/local/bin/foo $ ...and when I log in on a terminal as 'testing', I get the expected hello! and it echos my first line on input and then exits. So: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) 3) what does the top of the shell script look like? Philip Guenther
Re: Transparent firewall (bridge) with DMZ + LAN
FRLinux wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: bridging is stupid. don't. there are cases where you can't avoid it, but deliberately? about as clever as knowingly drinking methanol. Hello Henning, Sorry for asking, but just to make sure I understand your statement, do you mean, bridging straight and simple between your internal network and the big bad internet, of bridging on 2 lans or more to the outside? No, what Henning is telling you is that you shouldn't do bridging unless you have no choice. But if you start from scratch, meaning you can do as you want, then do not set it up in a bridging mode as it's not the best way to do so. Sometime you do bridging when you are changing a setup and you use it as an interim set to clean up your setup, etc. Or if there isn't any other way to go at it. But he is suggesting to avoid it at any cost when possible. Best, Daniel
Re: alternate shell not running
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: I'm running OpenBSD 4.4 Stable and have created a little shell script menu program that I want certain users to have as their only interaction with the system. I created users using the script as their shell and also put it in /etc/shells but when the user logs in they get a standard shell. I was testing it through ssh so I thought maybe it had something to do with the environment but the same thing happens when I log in locally. If log in as root and then su - username the script runs as expected. Is this the wrong way to do this? Would it be better putting something in the .profile? Can anyone shed any light as to why this is happening? Works for me: $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/foo -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 55 Apr 25 17:25 /usr/local/bin/foo $ cat /usr/local/bin/foo #!/bin/sh echo hello! read help echo $help exit 0 $ grep testing /etc/passwd testing:*:1009:1009:Test User,,,:/home/users/testing:/usr/local/bin/foo $ ...and when I log in on a terminal as 'testing', I get the expected hello! and it echos my first line on input and then exits. So: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? lgf:*:1010:1::/home/ght:/usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) when logging in as user ght $ env _=/usr/bin/env SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.7.128 39782 192.168.7.254 22 PATH=/home/lgf/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games:. SHELL=/usr/local/bin/login_script USER=lgf MAIL=/var/mail/ght HOME=/home/ght SSH_CLIENT=192.168.7.128 39782 22 TERM=xterm SSH_TTY=/dev/ttyp0 LOGNAME=ght $ lss ksh: lss: not found (looks like i'm getting ksh as my shell) 3) what does the top of the shell script look like? #!/bin/ksh tput clear goodchoice= until [ -n $goodchoice ] do echo 'Please choose one of the following: Philip Guenther
Re: OpenBSD on Sun Netra X1
Christopher Intemann wrote: Hi, does anyone here have experience with OpenBSD on a Sun Netra X1 server? I read somewhere that it does only support hard drives up to 137GB of size. Yes the limit is 137 GB and I said that and it's tested as well. I posted that long ago, but again I guess two or three weeks ago on a bridge question. No there isn't. Is there any way to avoid this restriction? Don't even try it, or your box WILL not boot. I read somewhere (else) that using a PCI-IDE controller could do the trick. Well, not sure about that. Why you say it would do the trick? Unless that PCI have it's own logic and all, witch I would not think it would anyway. That box only support IDE, so you have no choice here. But even a nice new IDE works very well there. I used: ST3160815A from Seagate, a very nice drive, pretty darn fast and nice cache as well on the drive. Or an 80GB ST380215A. It does give a second life to these boxes. However could not find any information if I could boot from discs connected via a PCI-IDE controller. Yes you can, but obviously use an external one. Pretty easy to do, then you removed it after that. Any hints? If you have any issue, I would be more then happy to help you get it going, but do your homework firs,t it couldn't be simpler to do really. Best, Daniel
Re: alternate shell not running
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: So: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? lgf:*:1010:1::/home/ght:/usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script Are there any other passwd entries with that uid? What's the output of ls -l /usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) when logging in as user ght $ env _=/usr/bin/env SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.7.128 39782 192.168.7.254 22 PATH=/home/lgf/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bi n:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/games:. SHELL=/usr/local/bin/login_script USER=lgf MAIL=/var/mail/ght HOME=/home/ght SSH_CLIENT=192.168.7.128 39782 22 TERM=xterm SSH_TTY=/dev/ttyp0 LOGNAME=ght $ lss ksh: lss: not found (looks like i'm getting ksh as my shell) It's interesting how it mixes USER=lgf with LOGNAME=ght. sshd (and login) set those to the same value, so it would seem user lgf's .profile or similar is being parsed along the way. I wonder what the 'id' command would show at that point: ght, lgf, or something completely different? I guess my next step would be to use ktrace -i on a virtual console 'getty' process, log in and out on that console to reproduce it, then stop the ktrace and examine the output of kdump to see what's actually being invoked, when, and by what. Follow the fork() and execve() calls. Good luck! Philip Guenther
Re: alternate shell not running
Aaron Martinez wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? lgf:*:1010:1::/home/ght:/usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) when logging in as user ght You changed shell for user lgf; then login as ght?
Re: alternate shell not running
Aaron Martinez wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? lgf:*:1010:1::/home/ght:/usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) when logging in as user ght You changed shell for user lgf; then login as ght? sorry.. i was just preserving identities.. and missed one lgf entry.. the actual user is lgf. i just was changing it to ght. So everything is in fact lgf there is no mixing of id's. $ ls -l /usr/local/login_script -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2132 Apr 23 00:22 /usr/local/login_script thanks again for the ideas. Aaron
Re: alternate shell not running
Aaron Martinez wrote: Aaron Martinez wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Aaron Martinez m...@proficuous.com wrote: 1) what does the /etc/passwd entry for one of these users look like? lgf:*:1010:1::/home/ght:/usr/local/bbox/bin/login_script 2) when you say they get a standard shell, what *EXACTLY* do you mean? (If you mean they get a /bin/sh prompt and it runs their .profile, then please say that) when logging in as user ght You changed shell for user lgf; then login as ght? sorry.. i was just preserving identities.. and missed one lgf entry.. the actual user is lgf. i just was changing it to ght. So everything is in fact lgf there is no mixing of id's. $ ls -l /usr/local/login_script -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2132 Apr 23 00:22 /usr/local/login_script You issued ls command for a different script than the user's shell.
Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src
I concede, this mail and my solution was not completely thought out. While making Xsession/xinitrc (tried startx since my first e-mail) run under sh -l would source .profile And what if a person's shell is actually csh, or some other shell? Then it does not work.
Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src
I concede, this mail and my solution was not completely thought out. While making Xsession/xinitrc (tried startx since my first e-mail) run under sh -l would source .profile and allow it to set any environment variables, only that environment would persist, not any aliases or set commands which might be in ~/.profile. Since the former was all I usually modified in ~/.profile, I had a lower bar for 'working' than I should have had. That said, having .xsession/window managers inherit the user's environment as set by .profile does seem like a useful default thing, though perhaps sourcing it in the user's X startup scripts would be better. Anyway, the change made to .Xdefaults, I'm glad is in since it the less than default xterm they get on starting X has always been a stumbling block for people I introduced to OpenBSD (of course, I always helpfully, but incorrectly 'fixed' it with sh -l until now). Anyway, apologies to all for the badly thought out mailing list noise. Theo de Raadt wrote: CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:src Changes by: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/04/25 11:36:48 Modified files: etc: Makefile Added files: etc/root : dot.Xdefaults etc/skel : dot.Xdefaults Log message: Provide users by default with XTerm*loginShell:true. This situation just is ridiculous; xdm is totally broken since it never starts anything which resembles a login shell. As a result, no configuration is brought into a process context to give to future xterms or *sh shells and thus cause them to run their .profile or .kshrc or such a thing, to get futher configuration. Therefore people are left with a totally bland unconfigured Unix environment in their xterms, and don't know how to change this since .profile is ignored. This problem shows hundreds of thousands of google hits. xdm is fundamentally broken, but we must solve this also for the startx methods, too, and for people running csh. It is clear that .xsession is not a solution to this problem at all (that is, assuming the people who suggest such a thing really mean a .xsession file with the execute bit set). This now becomes the recommended way for new users to get out of this stupid situation; if someone does not like it they can change it or delete it. Few will. Just watch. ok kettenis guenther millert Wouldn't replacing '#!/bin/sh' with '#!/bin/sh -l' in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc work too? What would that solve? That isn't the users shell. I'm using the former, I haven't used startx for years, so the latter I haven't tried. I don't understand where people like you come from. If you want to spew advice, why don't you TRY IT FIRST YOURSELF? Wouldn't setting xterm to a login shell only solve one problem, the other would be the environment for the window manager (and for ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc), e.g. requiring full paths for binaries outside of the default (not the user) PATH amongst other things? You didn't even read.
4.5 soon, but ...
So OpenBSD 4.5 will be available soon, next weekend. I feel that I should urge people to avoid the new snapshots until after they give 4.5 a try, because a few of us have been improving the system installer a little bit. It is night and day. Therefore; don't try to install a -current snapshot or you'll really hate installing 4.5...
Re: 4.5 soon, but ...
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:34:55 -0600 Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: So OpenBSD 4.5 will be available soon, next weekend. I feel that I should urge people to avoid the new snapshots until after they give 4.5 a try, because a few of us have been improving the system installer a little bit. It is night and day. Therefore; don't try to install a -current snapshot or you'll really hate installing 4.5... I've already been spoilt by the new installer in -current (for 4.6). It's sweet! And from the commit logs, it's only gotten better in the last handful of days since I used it. The auto-partitioning will be real helpful for new folks. -- J.C. Roberts
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