Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:38:33 +0200
frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote:
 hmm, on Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:57:48PM -0500, neal hogan said that
  On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:15:33AM +, Wayne M. Scace wrote:
 Hello,
 What exactly is tmux?
  
  man tmux(1)
 
 that'll work only on -current.

Really?

$ man tmux(1)
ksh: syntax error: `(' unexpected

;-p



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rlog bug ?

2009-07-13 Thread Holger Glaess
hi


i try to use the documented option -d with rlog but i get

rlog: unknown option -d

i did a look to the source and i didn't found the option.

maybe a bug ? or an outdated feature ?

i checked out the rlog.c file again and i got a .c file from 8.2.2008.

and the man file from 9.9.2007 .

i run openbsd 4.4 .

holger



State of 3G (Nokia) phones and Bluetooth, USB 3G modems

2009-07-13 Thread Jan-Erik Skata
I am a long time user of OpenBSD and about to reinstall my firewall.

In a foreseeable future, I may start using 3G as my Internet connection
(affordable unlimited 3G data in Finland, 384kbps for 9,90e/month).

Now I am wondering, how well does OpenBSD support connection over Bluetooth?
Will any noname USB Bluetooth stick work? I have been using 3G in Linux with
my laptops built-in Bluetooth to a Nokia E60 and it works very well.
What about Nokias USB cable? I have had problems with it both in Linux and
Windows though; the phone can randomly stop functioning as a serial device
until restarted.

A quick googling showed that the common Huawei USB modems are supported to
some extent. Anybody has more experience from them?

So to sum it up - if I want to use 3G as Internet connection, can I use
OpenBSD or should I go with Linux instead?



pppd problems with a Huawei E220

2009-07-13 Thread LEVAI Daniel
Hi!

I'm trying to setup a mobile internet connection. On a -current machine I've
made this peer file:

/etc/ppp/peers/vodafone1:
### --- ###
/dev/cuaU0
460800
connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat2
debug
holdoff 5
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
lock
noaccomp
noauth
nobsdcomp
noccp
nodefaultroute
novj
user 
### --- ###

/etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat2:
### --- ###
ABORT BUSY
ABORT 'NO CARRIER'
ABORT VOICE
ABORT 'NO DIALTONE'
ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE'
ABORT 'NO ANSWER'
ABORT DELAYED
'' ATZ
OK 'ATFE0V1X1D2C1 s0=0'
OK 'ATE1'
OK 'AT+cgdcont=1,IP,internet.vodafone.net'
OK-AT-OK ATDT*99***1#
CONNECT \d\c
### --- ###

I've gathered these informations from misc@ archives, and changed only a
few local settings (eg.: APN setting).

Now when I try to connect with `pppd call vodafone1`, I get this error
message:
# tail -f /var/log/daemon
pppd[24712]: pppd 2.3.5 started by daniell, uid 0
pppd[24712]: Serial connection established.
pppd[24712]: Using interface ppp0
pppd[24712]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/cuaU0
pppd[24712]: Could not determine remote IP address
pppd[24712]: Connection terminated.


Right now I'm stuck :\
Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!


Daniel


dmesg:
OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC.MP) #89: Thu Jul  9 21:32:39 MDT 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83
GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,A
CPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem  = 1072066560 (1022MB)
avail mem = 1027809280 (980MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/02/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd6b0,
SMBIOS
rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (68 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version 79ET66WW (1.10 ) date 08/02/2006
bios0: LENOVO 2007FRG
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET BOOT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) LURT(S3) DURT(S3) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4)
EXP2
(S4) EXP3(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB7(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83
GHz
cpu1:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,A
CPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2, remapped to apid 1
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 99 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T4511 serial 21826 type LION oem SANYO
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0)
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfe00 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000!
0xe/0x1
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1829 MHz: speeds: 1833, 1333, 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82945GM PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16
(irq
11)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at radeondrm0
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 1
int
17 (irq 11)
azalia0: RIRB time out
azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1981HD, 0x/0x, using Analog Devices
AD1981HD
azalia0: RIRB time out
audio0 at azalia0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 20
(irq
11)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573L) rev 0x00: apic 1 int
16
(irq 11), address 00:16:41:aa:d2:70
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 21
(irq
11)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
wpi0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: apic 1
int
17 (irq 11), MoW2, address 00:18:de:65:2d:37
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 22
(irq
11)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 23
(irq
11)
pci5 at ppb4 bus 12
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 16
(irq
11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 

Canada immigration

2009-07-13 Thread Agence Casa ElFirdaous
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Re: pppd problems with a Huawei E220

2009-07-13 Thread Denis Doroshenko
look for the comments between the lines below...

On 7/13/09, LEVAI Daniel l...@ecentrum.hu wrote:
 Hi!

  I'm trying to setup a mobile internet connection. On a -current machine I've
  made this peer file:

  /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone1:
  ### --- ###
  /dev/cuaU0
  460800
  connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat2
  debug
  holdoff 5

add here a line that looks like:

:10.255.255.254

with this line you set the remote address to be 10.255.255.254 (you
can choose any other by your taste).

  ipcp-accept-local
  ipcp-accept-remote
  lock
  noaccomp
  noauth
  nobsdcomp
  noccp
  nodefaultroute
  novj
  user 
  ### --- ###


...


  Now when I try to connect with `pppd call vodafone1`, I get this error
  message:
  # tail -f /var/log/daemon
  pppd[24712]: pppd 2.3.5 started by daniell, uid 0
  pppd[24712]: Serial connection established.
  pppd[24712]: Using interface ppp0
  pppd[24712]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/cuaU0
  pppd[24712]: Could not determine remote IP address

yeah, those damned modems these days, they just send IPCP Conf-Ack
messges with no IP address in them. pppd seems to be a little strict
on it (personally i think it would be more relaxed, as for P2P link
the peer address is not that important)

  pppd[24712]: Connection terminated.


  Right now I'm stuck :\
  Any advice would be appreciated.

  Thanks!


  Daniel



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Alexander Hall

Nicholas Marriott wrote:

I see, thanks.

I don't think a customisable message is necessary,


... as long as the default is not Wuff    Wuff!! :-)

/Alexander



Re: State of 3G (Nokia) phones and Bluetooth, USB 3G modems

2009-07-13 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:09 +0300
Jan-Erik Skata jesk...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am a long time user of OpenBSD and about to reinstall my firewall.
 
 In a foreseeable future, I may start using 3G as my Internet connection
 (affordable unlimited 3G data in Finland, 384kbps for 9,90e/month).
 
 Now I am wondering, how well does OpenBSD support connection over
 Bluetooth?

I just did this recently.  See http://tp76.info/btnet.html and search
the archives at http://marc.info/

I don't use it much and when I use it it's only for shorter periods
of time, so I don't know how it'd work as a 24/7 connection.

 Will any noname USB Bluetooth stick work?

I've got a Creative one that doesn't work (attaches to ugen(4)).
I'm sure there are others.  Might just be a missing ID or
something *shrugs*



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread i meltp
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Nicholas
Marriottnicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote:
  What is copy mode missing?

 nothing, i just put it on the list what is needed for tmux
 to dehtrone screen :]

 I don't understand. What is tmux copy mode missing?

Since you're asking, I kinda miss the H/M/L commands in copy mode
with vi-keys, for jumping to the top/middle/last line on the screen.

Bigger problem is: I often accidentally hit Space instead of Enter for
``copy selection'' with mode-keys vi --- and then catch myself and
hit Enter.  Seems to me this /should/ copy nothing at all; but if I try
to paste this non-selection, tmux dies with a ``[lost server]''
message.  Tested with version 0.7 (from openbsd 4.5 packages)
and whatever's in -current.



Re: i386 snapshot kernel crash (intagp)

2009-07-13 Thread julien
Same problem with a new snapshot (09 july).

 No idea ?

 Le Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:43:22 +0200,
 Julien Cabillot jul...@sdv.fr a C)crit :

 Hi,
 I'm have a problem with the latest snapshot (1er july), the kernel crash
 on
 intagp,
 I don't have serial connected so I take a little picture :
 http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6628/img4400g.jpg
 And trace give that :
 http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8093/img4402s.jpg

 My last update (25 Jun) work nice (it's a GENERIC.MP + raidframe).

 OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Jun 25 20:33:02 CEST 2009
 root@:/usr/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
 2.14
 GHz
 cpu0:

 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

 H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,
 xTPR
 real mem  = 1070034944 (1020MB)
 avail mem = 1025949696 (978MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/20/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb210,
 SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf0100 (34 entries)
 bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F4 date
 08/20/2008
 bios0: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. G31M-ES2L
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET MCFG APIC SSDT
 acpi0: wakeup devices PEX0(S5) PEX1(S5) PEX2(S5) PEX3(S5) PEX4(S5)
 PEX5(S5)
 HUB0(S5) UAR1(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USBE(S3) AZAL(S5)
 PCI0(S5)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
 2.14
 GHz
 cpu1:

 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

 H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,
 xTPR
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX1)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4)
 acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5)
 acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 3 (HUB0)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0
 acpicpu1 at acpi0
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb400!
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82G33 Host rev 0x10
 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82G33 Video rev 0x10
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 intagp0 at vga1
 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 5)
 drm0 at inteldrm0
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x01:
 apic 2
 int 16 (irq 5)
 azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC883
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 16
 (irq 5)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 17
 (irq 10)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x02: RTL8168C/8111C
 (0x3c00),
 apic 2 int 17 (irq 10), address 00:1f:d0:14:72:b2
 rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 23
 (irq 7)
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 19
 (irq 11)
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 18
 (irq 3)
 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 16
 (irq 5)
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int
 23
 (irq 7)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1
 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GB LPC rev 0x01: PM
 disabled
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA,
 channel
 0
 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Hitachi HDS721616PLAT80
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152626MB, 312579695 sectors
 wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: HDS728080PLAT20
 wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 78533MB, 160836480 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
 wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
 pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GB SATA rev 0x01: DMA,
 channel
 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
 pciide1: using apic 2 int 19 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
 wd2 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: ST3250620NS
 wd2: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 488397168 sectors
 wd2(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
 wd3 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0: ST3250620NS
 wd3: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 

Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Nicholas Marriott
I'll add the keys to the todo list.

How -current did you test? There were some fixes recently, can you please try
CVS HEAD?

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:22:18AM -0500, i meltp wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Nicholas
 Marriottnicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote:
   What is copy mode missing?
 
  nothing, i just put it on the list what is needed for tmux
  to dehtrone screen :]
 
  I don't understand. What is tmux copy mode missing?
 
 Since you're asking, I kinda miss the H/M/L commands in copy mode
 with vi-keys, for jumping to the top/middle/last line on the screen.
 
 Bigger problem is: I often accidentally hit Space instead of Enter for
 ``copy selection'' with mode-keys vi --- and then catch myself and
 hit Enter.  Seems to me this /should/ copy nothing at all; but if I try
 to paste this non-selection, tmux dies with a ``[lost server]''
 message.  Tested with version 0.7 (from openbsd 4.5 packages)
 and whatever's in -current.



Re: AMD 780/790GX Motherboards

2009-07-13 Thread Schöberle Dániel
 From: Peter Strvmberg [mailto:wilfr...@spamcop.net]
 Glenn Gombert wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I was interested in finding out if OpenBSD
 supported the new
  (i.e. M4A78-E) motherboards that use the AMD 780/790GX
 series chip sets? It
  could not find them mentioned on the AMD64 support page,
 Goggling did not
  produce any hits on this subject either. I get an error
 when trying to load
  4.5 on this new motherboard that I purchased.
 
 

 I have an M3A78-T (790GX) which works fine, after some bios tweaks

snip

Also see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=122840350032267w=2

Not quite what you have but maybe some useful info.

Regards, Daniel.



Re: pppd problems with a Huawei E220

2009-07-13 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On Monday 13 July 2009 10.58.09 you wrote:
 On 7/13/09, LEVAI Daniel l...@ecentrum.hu wrote:
  Hi!
 
   I'm trying to setup a mobile internet connection. On a -current machine
  I've made this peer file:
 
   /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone1:
   ### --- ###
   /dev/cuaU0
   460800
   connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/vodafone.chat2
   debug
   holdoff 5

 add here a line that looks like:
 :10.255.255.254

 with this line you set the remote address to be 10.255.255.254 (you
 can choose any other by your taste).
Thanks a lot, that helped!


Daniel

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Re: material about magicpoint

2009-07-13 Thread Andreas Kahari
Use Google:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagicPoint


2009/7/12 Paulo Manoel Mafra ma...@das.ufsc.br:
 Hello misc,
 I've installed the magicpoint presentation tool and I would like to know
 if there is any related book or complete user guide (in english,
 french or portuguese). The tool seems to be very simple and easy to use,
 but I would like to see what is possible to do with it.
 Any recommendation ?

 Thanks,
 Paulo.





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Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:13:42AM +0200, Thomas Pfaff said that
 On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:38:33 +0200
 frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote:
  hmm, on Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:57:48PM -0500, neal hogan said that
   On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:15:33AM +, Wayne M. Scace wrote:
Hello,
What exactly is tmux?
   
   man tmux(1)
  
  that'll work only on -current.
 
 Really?
 
 $ man tmux(1)
 ksh: syntax error: `(' unexpected

i meant, the man page itself is only in current...
so it might be better to send online references
because of people not on -current...

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bastille day in calendar

2009-07-13 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

Jul 14  Storming of the Bastille by the citizens of Paris, 1789
Jul 14  Bastille Day

is this needed twice?

-f
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Re: bastille day in calendar

2009-07-13 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, frantisek holop wrote:

 hi there,
 
 Jul 14  Storming of the Bastille by the citizens of Paris, 1789
 Jul 14  Bastille Day
 
 is this needed twice?

Well, technically I'd say yes.
First one is an historical fast.
Second one is the National holiday in France (like July 4th in U.S.).

Both are of course related.

Cheers!

-- 
Antoine



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Thomas Pfaff
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:11:59 +0200
frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote:
man tmux(1)
   
   that'll work only on -current.
  
  Really?
  
  $ man tmux(1)
  ksh: syntax error: `(' unexpected
 
 i meant, the man page itself is only in current...
 so it might be better to send online references
 because of people not on -current...
 

I know what you meant.  I just felt like being a comedian
for a moment ... and yes, it was before my morning coffee ;-)



Re: bastille day in calendar

2009-07-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:40:07PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote:
 hi there,
 
 Jul 14  Storming of the Bastille by the citizens of Paris, 1789
 Jul 14  Bastille Day
 
 is this needed twice?

Yes, different calendars (historical vs. holidays). Same roots, different
significance.



ppp dialup with public subnet

2009-07-13 Thread ng-sup01
A correction: when I try to bridge together the ppp interface 
(tun0) and the existing rl0 interface, I don't get a 
SIOCFLAGSsomething error as I mentioned in my original post, 
rather a invalid argment:

r...@firewall01:~ # ifconfig bridge0 create

r...@firewall01:~ # brconfig bridge0 add rl0

r...@firewall01:~ # brconfig 
bridge0: flags=0
priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto
rstp
rl0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER
port 1 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0
Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240):

r...@firewall01:~ # brconfig bridge0 add tun0
brconfig: bridge0: tun0: Invalid argument



Re: AMD 780/790GX Motherboards

2009-07-13 Thread Glenn Gombert
Thanks for the suggestions, they really help! I now have a snapshot of 4.6
running on this motherboard. The new 4.6 installer is GREAT to!
Glenn

2009/7/13 Schvberle Daniel schoberle.dan...@aamtech.com

  From: Peter Strvmberg [mailto:wilfr...@spamcop.net]
  Glenn Gombert wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I was interested in finding out if OpenBSD
  supported the new
   (i.e. M4A78-E) motherboards that use the AMD 780/790GX
  series chip sets? It
   could not find them mentioned on the AMD64 support page,
   Goggling  did not
   produce any hits on this subject either. I get an error
  when trying to load
   4.5 on this new motherboard that I purchased.
  
  
 
  I have an M3A78-T (790GX) which works fine, after some bios tweaks

 snip

 Also see http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=122840350032267w=2

 Not quite what you have but maybe some useful info.

 Regards, Daniel.



Re: ppp dialup with public subnet

2009-07-13 Thread Jussi Peltola
It makes no sense to try to bridge ethernet over ppp. You need to route,
not bridge.



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:58:52PM +0200, Thomas Pfaff said that
   Really?
   
   $ man tmux(1)
   ksh: syntax error: `(' unexpected
  
  i meant, the man page itself is only in current...
  so it might be better to send online references
  because of people not on -current...
  
 
 I know what you meant.  I just felt like being a comedian
 for a moment ... and yes, it was before my morning coffee ;-)

karma will get you!  bah, comedians...

-f
-- 
program: n. used to turn valid data into error messages



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote:

  use a terminal description that does have it such as xterm-color or
  xterm-xfree86.
 
 This causes problems fora lot of people, I don't think there are any bw 
 xterms
 out there

Any xterm from a codebase older than 1996 or so.

and recent ncurses does have setaf/setab in its xterm
 description... so I don't see a reason we shouldn't just have a quirk to
 override it. Could you try this please?

Yikes!
What we should really consider is making xterm-xfree86 our xterm
termcap entry.  xterms that don't support color are vanishingly
rare now, and if they are sent color command sequences, they will
just ignore them.

-- 
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Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 01:45:46PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 What we should really consider is making xterm-xfree86 our xterm
 termcap entry.  xterms that don't support color are vanishingly
 rare now, and if they are sent color command sequences, they will
 just ignore them.

This would be great!

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Re: rlog bug ?

2009-07-13 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:12:28AM +0200, Holger Glaess wrote:
 
 i try to use the documented option -d with rlog but i get
 
 rlog: unknown option -d
 

this is on a -current machine:

Script started on Mon Jul 13 15:30:29 2009
$ mkdir RCS
$ touch test.c
$ ci test.c
RCS/test.c,v  --  test.c
enter description, terminated with single '.' or end of file:
NOTE: This is NOT the log message!
 test
 .
initial revision: 1.1
done
$ co test.c
RCS/test.c,v  --  test.c
revision 1.1
done
$ rlog -d13:7:09 test.c

RCS file: RCS/test.c,v
Working file: test.c
head: 1.1
branch:
locks: strict
access list:
symbolic names:
keyword substitution: kv
total revisions: 1; selected revisions: 0
description:
test
=
$ ^D

Script done on Mon Jul 13 15:32:00 2009



Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Marco Peereboom
Exactly.  I couldn't care less about the bell.  Just so that everyone
knows; I hate hate hate ALL bells.  Yes I am talking to you
keyboard.bell.volume!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:59:00AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
 Nicholas Marriott wrote:
 I see, thanks.

 I don't think a customisable message is necessary,

 ... as long as the default is not Wuff    Wuff!! :-)

 /Alexander



Re: re-writing RAIDframe parity asynchronously?

2009-07-13 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Wed, 17.06.2009 at 15:55:00 +0200, Raimo Niskanen 
raimo+open...@erix.ericsson.se wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:05:47PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
  I'm not sure that I understand you correctly, and don't want to make a
  statement about the merit of having raidctl running in the background
  while already operating again, but what about having
  
  raidctl -P all 
  
  in /etc/rc?
 
 IIRC that works just fine if you are willing to take the
 risk of getting a broken raid in the event of a crash
 / power outage during the backgrounded parity re-write.

I'm not quite sure about the implications. After having a discussion
with a Linux guy, I think I need further insight about how RAIDFRAME
works. In this message
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118624313311571w=2 , Greg Oster
suggests that in a RAID1, one disk is always up-to-date, like in a
non-RAID system, and the other is being written to in the background.
If that were the case (confirmation or corrections are highly
appreciated!), then the risk is only as high as losing the master disk
while rebuilding parity. Otherwise, nothing would prevent the system
from running correctly, albeit much slower, while parity is being
rebuilt.

TIA!

-- 
Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: prioritizing carp interfaces

2009-07-13 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi,

On Mon, 23.03.2009 at 17:22:55 +0100, Joerg Streckfuss streckf...@dfn-cert.de 
wrote:
 In my opinion preemption on both nodes effects that advskew is set to 240 on 
 all
 interfaces and as a consequence there is no host which could advertise faster
 then the other host in the carp group.

that sounds plauible.

 Am I right in thinking that no failover should happen regardless of the number
 of failed carp interfaces?

I guess that you could end up with both nodes in MASTER or SLAVE state,
then, because it's clearly an undefined situation to have advskew at
the same value on several nodes unless you want load balancing using
the carpnodes option. In any case, my guess is that in this situation,
communication becomes quite lossy (both are MASTER), or stops
completely (both are BACKUP).

I don't know whether there's some magic (or protocol definition)
involved in setting the advskew value to 240, but otherwise, one could
expose this value through a sysctl and set individual values on the
various hosts.


-- 
Kind regards,
--Toni++



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CARP: multiple host groups on one network?

2009-07-13 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello,

I've decided to make more use of CARP, but I'm not sure that I
understand how vhid and carpnodes are supposed to work. So far, my
reading of carp(4) and ifconfig(8) is as follows:

* If I have a number of aliases bound to a certain interface, I should
  move them all to individual carp interfaces, each with their own vhid
  value, and their own password.

* On all hosts which are supposed to share one of these IP numbers, I
  configure similar carp interfaces using that same vhid value.

* The numbering of the carp interfaces is only of local significance
  on a given machine, and has no effect on other machines on the
  same network.

* If I want load balancing, then I'm going to use the carpnodes
  option, but now with individual vhid numbers for the same IP
  number on all affected nodes. The failover is now implicit because
  the non-working hosts simply don't advertise their MAC.

* If I want several hosts forming a number of groups on the same LAN,
  I need to assign vhid values across all hosts, and passwords
  according to group membership.

  Example: DNS on hosts dns1 and dns2, and two web servers on hosts
  web1 and web2, totalling four machines in two groups.


-- 
Kind regards,
--Toni++



Re: 4.6: load balancing and active/active

2009-07-13 Thread Federico
Federico wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 after some disastrous test with OBSD 4.5, i tried to upgrade to -current
  via cvs, then to download the latest snapshot of 4.6 release from the ftp.
 
 My goal is to obtain a couple of firewall in active/active mode with
 load balancing enabled, but at now I'm unable to make it works.

Hello,

anyone can help?



Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread Ricardo Augusto de Souza
Hi,

I sent an email  to misc few months ago.
It is a private content.
I found it at http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=openbsd-misca=2009-05t=10605255
I do need to remove it.

Is it possible?

Thanks



Re: Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread Han Boetes
Ricardo Augusto de Souza wrote:
 I sent an email  to misc few months ago.
 It is a private content.
 I found it at http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=openbsd-misca=2009-05t=10605255
 I do need to remove it.

Actually it's also mirrored at various other locations and there
isn't anything you can do to remove it all. All you can do is
prevent further impact by giving it as little as possible public
attention and to change your settings incase they have security
impact.

Even by asking this question you draw attention upon yourself. Do
you realize that?



# Han



RES: Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread Ricardo Augusto de Souza
It was an emergency situation.
I tought only members from misc were able to query it content.


-Mensagem original-
De: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] Em nome de Han
Boetes
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 13 de julho de 2009 14:11
Para: misc@openbsd.org
Assunto: Re: Removing content from misc

Ricardo Augusto de Souza wrote:
 I sent an email  to misc few months ago.
 It is a private content.
 I found it at
http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=openbsd-misca=2009-05t=10605255
 I do need to remove it.

Actually it's also mirrored at various other locations and there
isn't anything you can do to remove it all. All you can do is
prevent further impact by giving it as little as possible public
attention and to change your settings incase they have security
impact.

Even by asking this question you draw attention upon yourself. Do
you realize that?



# Han



Re: Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread Brynet
Hi,

Unfortunately what you're asking is quite impossible, this is a public
mailing list.. many publicly archives exist, and it most likely
remains in countless Inboxes.

You shouldn't have mailed private information to a public mailing
list, now you need a Flux Capacitor and a stylish DeLorean.

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=124145940730561w=2
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2009/5/4/5632264
http://n2.nabble.com/Migration-from-IPTABLES-to-PF-td2788534.html#a2788534
..and many many others.

Oh, and if you respond to this message.. PLEASE prefix the message
with Re: instead of RES: - it messes up public mailing lists, and
it's quite annoying. :-)

HTH.

-Brynet



Re: RES: Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread raven

Ricardo Augusto de Souza ha scritto:

It was an emergency situation.
I tought only members from misc were able to query it content.
  


When you send a mail to public mailing list, what you expect? Did you
ask to yourself  what i send is sensitive data ?
Remember that, no one, can erase your message from internet :)
Your message still around here forever.



Re: Removing content from misc

2009-07-13 Thread John Tate
A lot of those archives are private and independent of the OpenBSD project.
You might want to contact those sites.

-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Ricardo Augusto de Souza
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:52 AM
To: majord...@openbsd.org.
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Removing content from misc

Hi,

I sent an email  to misc few months ago.
It is a private content.
I found it at http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=openbsd-misca=2009-05t=10605255
I do need to remove it.

Is it possible?

Thanks



PF: Queue parsing problem ?

2009-07-13 Thread Fernando Braga
Hello,

I'm setting up some queue discipline on one firewall, and I'm facing a
strange problem: the rules aren't assigning the packets to the correct
queue. As you can see below, they are going to inexistent qids, and
are ending in default queues.

I use this setup with assymetrical links, and it has been OK since
OpenBSD 3.9. As I'm setting up queues in OpenBSD 4.5 for the first
time, I found out it was working as it used to.

fmbraga:14$ sudo pfctl -g -sq
queue root_rl0 on rl0 bandwidth 100Mb priority 0 {speedy-up}
  [ qid=1 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue  speedy-up on rl0 bandwidth 300Kb hfsc( red ecn realtime 300Kb
upperlimit 300Kb ) {Q-pri, Q-icmp, Q-voip, Q-biz, Q-ts, Q-http,
Q-mail, Q-def}
  [ qid=16 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-pri on rl0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 7 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=5 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-icmp on rl0 bandwidth 13Kb priority 7 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=6 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-voip on rl0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 6 hfsc( realtime 54Kb )
  [ qid=7 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-biz on rl0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 6 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=8 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-ts on rl0 bandwidth 27Kb priority 5 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=9 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-http on rl0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 4 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=10 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-mail on rl0 bandwidth 27Kb priority 4 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=11 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-def on rl0 bandwidth 13Kb priority 0 hfsc( default )
  [ qid=12 ifname=rl0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue root_sis0 on sis0 bandwidth 100Mb priority 0 {local, speedy-dn}
  [ qid=2 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue  local on sis0 bandwidth 90Mb
  [ qid=3 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue  speedy-dn on sis0 bandwidth 1.20Mb hfsc( red ecn realtime
1.20Mb upperlimit 1.20Mb ) {Q-pri, Q-icmp, Q-voip, Q-biz, Q-ts,
Q-http, Q-mail, Q-def}
  [ qid=15 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-pri on sis0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 7 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=5 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-icmp on sis0 bandwidth 13Kb priority 7 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=6 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-voip on sis0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 6 hfsc( realtime 54Kb )
  [ qid=7 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-biz on sis0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 6 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=8 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-ts on sis0 bandwidth 27Kb priority 5 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=9 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-http on sis0 bandwidth 54Kb priority 4 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=10 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-mail on sis0 bandwidth 27Kb priority 4 hfsc( realtime 13Kb )
  [ qid=11 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
queue   Q-def on sis0 bandwidth 13Kb priority 0 hfsc( default )
  [ qid=12 ifname=sis0 ifbandwidth=100Mb ]
fmbraga:15$

fmbraga:16$ sudo pfctl -g -sr
@0 scrub in all fragment reassemble
  [ Skip steps: i=end d=end f=end p=end sa=end sp=end da=end dp=end ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@0 block drop log all
  [ Skip steps: p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@1 block drop in quick on ! lo inet from 127.0.0.0/8 to any
  [ Skip steps: d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@2 block drop in quick on ! sis0 inet from 172.16.8.0/24 to any
  [ Skip steps: i=7 d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@3 block drop in quick on ! sis0 inet from 172.16.6.0/24 to any
  [ Skip steps: i=7 d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@4 block drop in quick on ! sis0 inet from 172.16.12.0/24 to any
  [ Skip steps: i=7 d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@5 block drop in quick on ! sis0 inet from 172.16.14.0/24 to any
  [ Skip steps: i=7 d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@6 block drop in quick on ! sis0 inet from 172.16.15.0/24 to any
  [ Skip steps: d=8 f=8 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]
@7 block drop in quick inet from __automatic_b3f9a813_0:6 to any
  [ Skip steps: i=11 p=9 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]

@8 pass out all flags S/SA keep state
  [ Skip steps: i=11 d=12 f=11 sa=11 sp=end da=11 dp=10 ]
  [ queue: qname= qid=0 pqname= pqid=0 ]

@9 pass out proto tcp all user = 515 flags S/SA keep state queue(q-http, q-pri)
  [ Skip steps: i=11 d=12 f=11 p=11 sa=11 sp=end da=11 ]
  [ queue: qname=q-http qid=4 pqname=q-pri pqid=14 ]
@10 pass out proto tcp from any to any port = www flags S/SA keep
state queue(q-http, q-pri)
  [ Skip steps: d=12 sp=end ]
  [ queue: qname=q-http qid=4 pqname=q-pri pqid=14 ]
@11 pass out on sis0 inet from 172.16.0.0/16 to 172.16.0.0/16 no state
queue q-local
  [ Skip steps: sp=end ]
  [ queue: qname=q-local qid=17 pqname= pqid=17 ]
@12 pass in on rl0 proto tcp from 

Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:35:02AM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote:
  The xterm terminal description does not support colour so tmux does not 
  attempt
  to use it, use a terminal description that does have it such as xterm-color 
  or
  xterm-xfree86.
 
 This causes problems fora lot of people, I don't think there are any bw 
 xterms
 out there and recent ncurses does have setaf/setab in its xterm
 description... so I don't see a reason we shouldn't just have a quirk to
 override it. Could you try this please?

you think that is the wrong place to fix things? tmux probably shouldn't
try to fix terminal descriptions originating from lower-level systems,
especially since this is a full OS, not some distribution of
mostly-unrelated components, so the various components can be made to
play well together.

Having xterm-xfree86 as the default TERM setting for xterms makes sense.
However, using the following in .Xdefaults works just fine. I do agree
that making this the default in the xterm binary may be desirable.

XTerm*termName: xterm-xfree86

Joachim



resolution 1280x1024 not working when upgrading 4.4 - 4.5 with intel(4) driver

2009-07-13 Thread Marcos Laufer
Hello List,

I upgraded my workstation from 4.4 to 4.5 and i lost the 1280x1024 
resolution
in X. I had the i810(4) driver which has been removed/replaced with the 
intel(4) 
driver.  Which other driver should i try to achieve same resolution? It 
works
with 1024x768 at most


This is dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC) #1749: Sat Feb 28 14:51:18 MST 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR
real mem  = 1061588992 (1012MB)
avail mem = 1018200064 (971MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/28/07, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 
0xe44f0 (27 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version NL94510J.86A.0017.2007.0828.1137 
date 08/28/2007
bios0: Intel Corporation D945GCNL
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC WDDT MCFG ASF! HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) P32_(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S4) 
UAR2(S4) PEG0(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) PEX4(S4) PEX5(S4) 
UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AC9M(S4) AZAL(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P32_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX1)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX2)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (PEX3)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: FVS, 3000, 2400 MHz
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xae00!
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945G Host rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945G Video rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
17 (irq 255)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
16 (irq 255)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x01: RTL8168 2 
(0x3800), apic 2 int 17 (irq 9), address 00:1c:c0:0e:24:4e
rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
18 (irq 255)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
19 (irq 255)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
23 (irq 10)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
19 (irq 11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
18 (irq 9)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
16 (irq 11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
23 (irq 10)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1
pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GB LPC rev 0x01: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD800BB-00JHC0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD800BB-00FRA0
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GB SATA rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
pciide1: using apic 2 int 19 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801GB SMBus rev 0x01: apic 2 
int 19 (irq 11)
iic0 at ichiic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at 

Re: resolution 1280x1024 not working when upgrading 4.4 - 4.5 with intel(4) driver [solved]

2009-07-13 Thread Marcos Laufer

Sorry for the noise .  I was misconfiguring the horiz sync



Marcos Laufer wrote:

Hello List,

I upgraded my workstation from 4.4 to 4.5 and i lost the 1280x1024 
resolution
in X. I had the i810(4) driver which has been removed/replaced with the 
intel(4) 
driver.  Which other driver should i try to achieve same resolution? It 
works

with 1024x768 at most


This is dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.5 (GENERIC) #1749: Sat Feb 28 14:51:18 MST 2009
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR

real mem  = 1061588992 (1012MB)
avail mem = 1018200064 (971MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/28/07, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 
0xe44f0 (27 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version NL94510J.86A.0017.2007.0828.1137 
date 08/28/2007

bios0: Intel Corporation D945GCNL
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC WDDT MCFG ASF! HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) P32_(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S4) 
UAR2(S4) PEG0(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) PEX4(S4) PEX5(S4) 
UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AC9M(S4) AZAL(S4)

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 5 (P32_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX1)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX2)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (PEX3)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: FVS, 3000, 2400 MHz
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xae00!
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945G Host rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945G Video rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
17 (irq 255)

pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
16 (irq 255)

pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
re0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x01: RTL8168 2 
(0x3800), apic 2 int 17 (irq 9), address 00:1c:c0:0e:24:4e

rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
18 (irq 255)

pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
19 (irq 255)

pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
23 (irq 10)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
19 (irq 11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
18 (irq 9)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
16 (irq 11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 2 int 
23 (irq 10)

usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1
pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GB LPC rev 0x01: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility

wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD800BB-00JHC0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: WDC WD800BB-00FRA0
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GB SATA rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI

pciide1: using apic 2 int 19 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801GB SMBus rev 0x01: apic 2 
int 19 (irq 11)

iic0 at ichiic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0

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Bret S. Lambert wrote:

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Awesome WM 3.3.1

2009-07-13 Thread Mateusz Gierblinski
Hey

I'm using OpenBSD 4.5 version on IBM Thinkpad T40, everything seems to work
as it should. But unfortunately I did not found the Awesome Window Manager
version 3.3.1. Downloaded the source code from official project homepage (
http://awesome.naquadah.org). To compile this thing takes a lot of effort
because of the dependencies makes it too difficult for my knowledge level.
My question is if someone did installed this WM? If not when would it be
available in ports?

Kind regards

Mateusz



Snapshots built against 4.6 tag?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeremy Chase
Are the snapshots currently being built using the OPENBSD_4_6 tag?

Ultimately what I want to know is when the snapshots are no longer 4.6
and are what will be 4.7

--
Jeremy



Re: Snapshots built against 4.6 tag?

2009-07-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jeremy Chasejeremych...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are the snapshots currently being built using the OPENBSD_4_6 tag?

snapshots are never built against any tag other than HEAD.

 Ultimately what I want to know is when the snapshots are no longer 4.6
 and are what will be 4.7

that day has already passed.



Re: Snapshots built against 4.6 tag?

2009-07-13 Thread Olivier Cherrier
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:58:55PM -0400, jeremych...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are the snapshots currently being built using the OPENBSD_4_6 tag?
 
 Ultimately what I want to know is when the snapshots are no longer 4.6
 and are what will be 4.7

Snapshots are based on HEAD + some patches from developpers that
are not yet committed.
You can read mailing-list archive.

-- 
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mailto:o...@symacx.com



Re: Awesome WM 3.3.1

2009-07-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Mateusz
Gierblinskimateusz.gierblin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using OpenBSD 4.5 version on IBM Thinkpad T40, everything seems to work
 as it should. But unfortunately I did not found the Awesome Window Manager
 version 3.3.1. Downloaded the source code from official project homepage (
 http://awesome.naquadah.org). To compile this thing takes a lot of effort
 because of the dependencies makes it too difficult for my knowledge level.
 My question is if someone did installed this WM? If not when would it be
 available in ports?

you can't run awesome 3 without XCB which isn't included until openbsd
4.6 (which doesn't include awesome3 either).  so the earliest release
you may see it is 4.7.



Re: Awesome WM 3.3.1

2009-07-13 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2009/7/13 Mateusz Gierblinski mateusz.gierblin...@gmail.com

 Hey

 I'm using OpenBSD 4.5 version on IBM Thinkpad T40, everything seems to work
 as it should. But unfortunately I did not found the Awesome Window Manager
 version 3.3.1. Downloaded the source code from official project homepage (
 http://awesome.naquadah.org). To compile this thing takes a lot of effort
 because of the dependencies makes it too difficult for my knowledge
 level.
 My question is if someone did installed this WM? If not when would it be
 available in ports?


We need XCB as Ted pointed out, but I've mailed the port maintainer, and he
said he did not have any plans for porting awesome 3, so you might need to
compile or port yourself.

So even if when we get XCB, we'll need someone to make the port.



Simple Gif or Gre Tunnel doesn't seem so simple...

2009-07-13 Thread Christopher Hilton
I'm trying to setup a gif or gre tunnel between two machines running  
OpenBSD 4.5. North is a soekris 5501 and south is a soekris 4511. Both  
are routers.


North:

 LAN: 192.168.144.0/24 via 192.168.144.1
 WAN: 10.0.2.1

South:

 LAN: 192.168.140.0/24 via 192.168.140.1
 WAN: 172.16.34.57

I'm doing the following:

North:

 # ifconfig gif0 create
 # ifconfig gif0 inet 172.17.0.1 172.17.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 \
 tunnel 10.0.2.1 172.16.34.57
 # route add -net 192.168.140.0/24 172.17.0.1

South:

 # ifconfig gif0 create
 # ifconfig gif0 inet 172.17.0.2 172.17.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 \
 tunnel 172.16.34.57 10.0.2.1
 # route add -net 192.168.144.0/24 172.17.0.2

I'm doing:

 # sysctl net.inet.etherip.allow=1

On both sides.

I'm getting no joy getting packets through this tunnel. I am running  
pf on this configuration. According to the documentation the default  
encapsulation for the gif devices is protocol 97 etherip but when I  
tcpdump my external interfaces I'm seeing encapsulated packets with  
protocol 4 (ipencap) pass. So I've added the following rules to both  
pf.confs:


 pass in on $ext_if proto { ipencap, etherip }
 pass out on $ext_if proto { ipencap, etherip }

Can anyone see anything obviously wrong or forgotten here? Or, does  
anyone have a simple gif tunnel setup that could maybe assist me?


Thanks in advance,

-- Chris



Re: bastille day in calendar

2009-07-13 Thread Steve Fairhead
 Jul 14  Storming of the Bastille by the citizens of Paris, 1789 Jul 14
Bastille Day

is this needed twice? 

The first time was a rehearsal.

Steve
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Re: Awesome WM 3.3.1

2009-07-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-07-13, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Mateusz
 Gierblinskimateusz.gierblin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using OpenBSD 4.5 version on IBM Thinkpad T40, everything seems to work
 as it should. But unfortunately I did not found the Awesome Window Manager
 version 3.3.1. Downloaded the source code from official project homepage (
 http://awesome.naquadah.org). To compile this thing takes a lot of effort
 because of the dependencies makes it too difficult for my knowledge level.
 My question is if someone did installed this WM? If not when would it be
 available in ports?

 you can't run awesome 3 without XCB which isn't included until openbsd
 4.6 (which doesn't include awesome3 either).  so the earliest release
 you may see it is 4.7.

you need cairo-xcb for awesome3, too.



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Re: tmux vs screen questions

2009-07-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:59:00AM +0200, Alexander Hall said that
 Nicholas Marriott wrote:
 I see, thanks.

 I don't think a customisable message is necessary,

 ... as long as the default is not Wuff    Wuff!! :-)

hey!  i heard that! :p
Wuff!  Wuff!!

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freebsd accf_smtp kernel level spamd?

2009-07-13 Thread frantisek holop
hi there,

is this
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog18/accf_smtp.pdf
implementing spamd at the kernel level?

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About em (4)

2009-07-13 Thread Insan Praja SW

Hi Misc@,
From the em (4) man:
BUGS
 There are known performance issues with this driver when running UDP
 traffic with Jumbo frames.

Is this info still valid?
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