Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-11 Thread Eric Furman
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 08:33 +0100, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:
  Me?  I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale.  And if it fails, I
  test my tolerance and recovery plans :)  Do this right, your system will
  be back up faster than you can digest dozens of people's opinions about
  the best drives and pick one (which may turn out to be a stinker anyway).
 
 +100
 
+1
Nick Holland Rules!



Re: Sil 3112a drive timeout.

2010-12-11 Thread Jan Johansson
Jan Johansson janj+open...@wenf.org wrote:
 So I have been comparing RAMDISK_CD and GENERIC for a few days
 and it seems I can compile a working GENERIC by commenting
 options DIAGNOSTIC in the config file.
 
 Trying to find exactly which ifdef that kills the card I started
 getting unpredictable results while changing ifdef's in
 /usr/src/sys/kern and /usr/src/sys/scsi.
 
 Sometimes it work sometimes it dosen't. :-(
 
 Any suggestions would be very welcome.

For the Archives.

So I gave up on this and did an install of 4.8 release. Even
built a nonDIAGNOSTIC kernel using a PATA drive and realized that
the problem seems gone (even with the official /bsd).

I have no clue what changed.



Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll have to disagree a bit here.  Manufacturers go through cycles and
usually there is one that stands out on a size/period.

Manufacturers almost never change the manufacturing process over time
for a particular drive.  They will update firmware as time goes buy.  So
a good drive today is going to be equally good in a few years.

The thing I disagree with is that there are very good 2TB drives out
there.  The trick is to have enough of a brand (usually a few hundred)
to start to understand it's personality.  If you have volume you can
pretty easily determine which manufacturer is good today and sucked
yesterday.  And when a new generation drives come out it starts all over
again.

Oh and be safe, make backups.

FWIW

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:11:52PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
 On 12/10/10 17:25, Paolo Aglialoro wrote:
  ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba???
  
 
 I'm going to say Anyone who says brand X is great and Y is crap has
 just exposed themselves as a newbie in the computer business. :)
 
 I've seen every make of drive have some real stinkers, and also build
 drives that don't seem to die.  Unfortunately, by the time you can say,
 This model is really good or this model is a disaster, it's too
 late, the drive has been out of production for six months (or has had
 its production processes changed, and the old results don't represent
 the current production runs).
 
 One of the worst drives in terms of quality and failure I ever saw was
 the Seagate ST225.  One of the best was...uh...the Seagate ST225.  The
 difference was at the beginning, the ST225 was a cutting edge drive, a
 whopping 20M of storage in a half-height case, with a label on the drive
 listing dozens of bad sectors.  By the end of its production run, the
 bad sector tables on almost all ST225 drives were COMPLETELY empty, they
 were 100% good out of the box, and would run long past their useful
 life.  By this point, they were old tech and Just Worked.
 
 (ok, the worst drives I ever had were JTS.  One day, I was overly
 frustrated at all the major drive makers, and saw these JTS brand
 drives, and figured they either had a good idea or a bad one.  Turned
 out to be bad beyond my imagination...  Fortunately, they seem to have
 vanished from the world shortly after they arrived, but...  *shudder*)
 
 I discovered (quite) a few years back that you could toast a Samsung
 disk on demand using the Novell disk test utility.  Now, I can't seem to
 get one to fail.
 
 Right now, if you buy a 2TB disk, expect it to be unreliable.  Expect a
 300G drive to last for quite some time (if you can find one). You still
 have to have backups, you still have to have plan for what you do until
 it is repaired (failure tolerance), and you have to have a plan for how
 you will repair it (failure recovery).
 
 If you are deploying a thousand machines, yeah, it would be really nice
 to know that this particular production run will blow 200 drives in the
 expected life span of the project and that another model and production
 run would blow 50, and buy the one that will fail only 50, but you won't
 have that kind of information until the project is done.  For small
 projects, all drives of all types, technologies and interfaces can and
 do fail.  Be ready for it.  Have a backup, have a failure tolerance and
 recovery plan.
 
 
 Here's another thought: for maximum data retention, your drives (and the
 rest of your systems) *must fail* from time to time, and do so often
 enough to keep you remembering that they DO fail to keep your backup
 solutions working and your failure tolerance and recovery plans useful.
  Go enough years without an oh poop incident, you get cocky and
 sloppy.  I can't prove that statement, but if you don't believe me, you
 might prove it for me. :)
 
 Me?  I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale.  And if it fails, I
 test my tolerance and recovery plans :)  Do this right, your system will
 be back up faster than you can digest dozens of people's opinions about
 the best drives and pick one (which may turn out to be a stinker anyway).
 
 Nick.



hotplugd and auto mount UI

2010-12-11 Thread Jean-Francois
Hello,

Has someone already programmed any kind UI or GUI used with hotplugd for auto
mounting and user interface to eventually mount or unmount the device ?

I am quite doing this for a friend, however if something already exists ...

Thanks

Jean-Frangois



ifconfig(8) bridge(4) ifcost not working?

2010-12-11 Thread Insan Praja SW

Hi All@,
Has anyone trying to set an interface cost on a bridge(4) devices? It  
doesn't seem to work to me.


What I'm trying to do is to create a link with L2 redundancy. I can't use  
trunk due to the nature of multi operator network. So I create both  
vlan(s) on both links and higher the cost on backup links. I can't do it  
on the backbone switch because this is a shared multipoint backbone.


When I tried;
#ifconfig bridge0 ifcost vlan4010 1000

The machines replies;
ifconfig: bridge0: 1000: invalid argument

dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #11: Sun Nov 21 06:48:46 WIT 2010
r...@border-rf.mygreenlinks.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error ffixed_disk,invalid_time
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.41  
GHz
cpu0:  
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,S

SE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
real mem  = 2142744576 (2043MB)
avail mem = 2097610752 (2000MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/26/07, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @  
0x7fbe4000 (43 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corporation version  
S3000.86B.02.00.0054.061120091710 date 06/11/2009

bios0: Intel S3000AH
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT SLIC FACP APIC WDDT HPET MCFG ASF! SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT  
SSDT HEST BERT ERST EINJ
acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) P32_(S4) UAR1(S1) PEX4(S4) PEX5(S4)  
UHC1(S1) UHC2(S1) UHC3(S1) UHC4(S1) EHCI(S1) AC9M(S4) AZAL(S4)

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.41  
GHz
cpu1:  
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,S

SE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.41  
GHz
cpu2:  
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,S

SE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.41  
GHz
cpu3:  
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,S

SE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 5
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX4)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX5)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x9000 0xc9000/0x1000 0xca000/0x1800  
0xcb800/0x1000

cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2401 MHz: speeds: 2394, 1596 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7230 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
17 (irq 255)

pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 5 int 17  
(irq 255)

pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic  
5 int 16 (irq 9), address 00:15:17:86:52:fc
em1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic  
5 int 17 (irq 10), address 00:15:17:86:52:fd
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01: apic 5 int 16  
(irq 255)

pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
em2 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573E) rev 0x03: apic 5  
int 17 (irq 10), address 00:15:17:49:04:0d

Intel 82573E Serial rev 0x03 at pci3 dev 0 function 3 not configured
Intel 82573E KCS rev 0x03 at pci3 dev 0 function 4 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
23 (irq 11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
19 (irq 11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
18 (irq 11)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
16 (irq 9)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 5 int  
23 (irq 11)

ehci0: timed out waiting for BIOS
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
skc0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 D-Link DGE-530T B1 rev 0x11, Yukon Lite  
(0x9): apic 5 int 21 (irq 11)

sk0 at skc0 port A: address 

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Re: ifconfig(8) bridge(4) ifcost not working?

2010-12-11 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 08:59:26PM +0700, Insan Praja SW wrote:
 Hi All@,
 Has anyone trying to set an interface cost on a bridge(4) devices?
 It doesn't seem to work to me.
 
 What I'm trying to do is to create a link with L2 redundancy. I
 can't use trunk due to the nature of multi operator network. So I
 create both vlan(s) on both links and higher the cost on backup
 links. I can't do it on the backbone switch because this is a
 shared multipoint backbone.
 
 When I tried;
 #ifconfig bridge0 ifcost vlan4010 1000
 
 The machines replies;
 ifconfig: bridge0: 1000: invalid argument
 

You need to issue at least
ifconfig bridge0 stp vlan4010
first. I guess you may want to do a
ifconfig bridge0 proto rstp
as well.

After that the command works.
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symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread Mihai Popescu B.S.
Hello,

I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What
could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ?

Thanks.



Re: ifconfig(8) bridge(4) ifcost not working?

2010-12-11 Thread Insan Praja SW

Hi Claudio@,

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:46:39 +0700, Claudio Jeker  
cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote:



On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 08:59:26PM +0700, Insan Praja SW wrote:

Hi All@,
Has anyone trying to set an interface cost on a bridge(4) devices?
It doesn't seem to work to me.

What I'm trying to do is to create a link with L2 redundancy. I
can't use trunk due to the nature of multi operator network. So I
create both vlan(s) on both links and higher the cost on backup
links. I can't do it on the backbone switch because this is a
shared multipoint backbone.

When I tried;
#ifconfig bridge0 ifcost vlan4010 1000

The machines replies;
ifconfig: bridge0: 1000: invalid argument



You need to issue at least
ifconfig bridge0 stp vlan4010
first. I guess you may want to do a
ifconfig bridge0 proto rstp
as well.


You're right, should look to the manpages more carefully.


After that the command works.

Thanks,


Insan Praja
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Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread roberth
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:04:32 +0200
Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What
 could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ?
 
 Thanks.
 

thats a very informative bug report. you sure did include a lot of
information. care to eleborate?

if i had to guess...
you are talking about updating packages and see mozilla related stuff
complaining about sqlite.
don't worry bout that one, it's an issue with sqlite from ports vs the
mozilla distributed version. 



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Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread J Sisson
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.comwrote:

 I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What
 could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ?

 Was it a clean install of a snapshot or an upgrade?

If upgrade, did you sysmerge and pkg_add -u after the upgrade?



Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What
 could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ?

 Thanks.



I think this is in the archives...



Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Mihai Popescu B.S.
| mihai...@gmail.com wrote:
|  Hello,
| 
|  I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What
|  could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ?
| 
|  Thanks.
| 
| 
| 
| I think this is in the archives...

Yes it is because I created the most recent thread and it was because of 
packages.  PHP in my case.

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Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread Mihai Popescu B.S.
Sorry folks,

I was to quick in posting. Here are the details: I've installed from
what is (was) today on snapshots on ftp server. Then I used the same
ftp snapshot mirror for packages. That's all, no CVS, no compile, just
plain install from what is (was) on snapshots - base  packages.
This was after a long pause of using OpenBSD as a desktop, I was using
it only as a router. I had to do this to give a try to Ubuntu, but I
was disappointed with it and came back to old and stable stuff. I did
the same install like in the old times, get the snapshot and go.
First, my ATI HD4350 refused to startx, effectively putting my display
in some unusable state: I had to remove power from display to get it
back online. I searched the archive and found out that Xorg became a
joke since Intel put some code in it. Too sad.
Then I got the messages about symbol size mismatch. I've installed
empathy but got some strange messages like Cannot execute the script
... (not a manual?) and empathy refused to start being unable to load
some lib.so files. Now I replaced the ATI HD4350 with ATI X1650 and
managed to get X working.
Are there new things in snapshot which I don't know ? Should I wait
for another compile of packages, to have a date close to the base
compile time ?
If X is so crappy, is there another thing to use ?

Many thanks.



Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread roberth
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:07:02 +0200
Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry folks,
 
 I was to quick in posting. Here are the details: I've installed from
 what is (was) today on snapshots on ftp server. Then I used the same
 ftp snapshot mirror for packages. That's all, no CVS, no compile, just
 plain install from what is (was) on snapshots - base  packages.
 This was after a long pause of using OpenBSD as a desktop, I was using
 it only as a router. I had to do this to give a try to Ubuntu, but I
 was disappointed with it and came back to old and stable stuff. I did
 the same install like in the old times, get the snapshot and go.
 First, my ATI HD4350 refused to startx, effectively putting my display
 in some unusable state: I had to remove power from display to get it
 back online. I searched the archive and found out that Xorg became a
 joke since Intel put some code in it. Too sad.
 Then I got the messages about symbol size mismatch. I've installed
 empathy but got some strange messages like Cannot execute the script
 ... (not a manual?) and empathy refused to start being unable to load
 some lib.so files. Now I replaced the ATI HD4350 with ATI X1650 and
 managed to get X working.
 Are there new things in snapshot which I don't know ? Should I wait
 for another compile of packages, to have a date close to the base
 compile time ?
 If X is so crappy, is there another thing to use ?
 
 Many thanks.
 

something like
/regxpcom:/usr/local/lib/libsqlite3.so.14.0: 
/usr/local/mozilla-firefox/libsqlite3.so.22.1 : WARNING: 
symbol(sqlite3_version) size mismatch, relink your program
can be ignored atm.

i don't use empathy, so no idea if it is broken, the actual error
messages would help.
for ports/package related stuff there is ports@ which might get you a
quicker response.

not a manual might point to a bad manpage, related to the
mandoc/groff change; nothing to worry about either from a pure user
perspective. the package should have installed fine nevertheless.



easy snapshot updates

2010-12-11 Thread Ted Unangst
My home internet connection, for various reasons, tends to alternate
between the two quality levels of blows balls and blows giant
balls.  This makes downloading and installing new snapshots an
exercise in frustration.  I noticed that binary patches, as made by
bsdiff (thank you Colin Percival), could reduce the download time
significantly, if only there was patch generating machine in the sky
(sorry, cloud).  So I made one.  Link below.

I've been using this with i386 for a while now.  At first I more or
less hand generated the updates, but now it's all automatic.  Even
including amd64.

Basically, it's a perl script that downloads a database of patches and
applies them.  There's a little bit of labor involved in setting it
up, but after that, you can run the script whenever you like and it
will take care of business.  I generate snap diffs up to every day,
but the script will download batches if you care to only update on
weekends or something.

The only real requirement (besides a few packages) is that you start
off running a snapshot I have diffs for.  This goes back about a week
for i386, and about 2 days for amd64.  And you need to have all the
sets installed (including X), or there will be bitching and whining.
Please pay attention to the part about creating
/var/db/bluesnapper/etc and xetc directories.

Note that these are not official, and about the only promise you'll
get that I'm not secretly inserting trojans into everything is that
it's not worth my time to do so.

Anyway, more detailed instructions and a link to the actual script are
below.  I think it works.

http://www.tedunangst.com/snapper.html



Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread patsy
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:07:02PM +0200, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
 Sorry folks,
 
 First, my ATI HD4350 refused to startx, effectively putting my display
 in some unusable state: I had to remove power from display to get it
 back online. I searched the archive and found out that Xorg became a
 joke since Intel put some code in it. Too sad.
 Then I got the messages about symbol size mismatch. I've installed
 empathy but got some strange messages like Cannot execute the script
 ... (not a manual?) and empathy refused to start being unable to load
 some lib.so files. Now I replaced the ATI HD4350 with ATI X1650 and
 managed to get X working.
 Are there new things in snapshot which I don't know ? Should I wait
 for another compile of packages, to have a date close to the base
 compile time ?
 If X is so crappy, is there another thing to use ?
 
 Many thanks.
 

I don't mean to brag, but my Radeon HD4350 works fine with X. Sending
a dmesg to the list is never a bad idea if hardware is misbehaving.
Are you using an xorg.conf?

Incidentally, if you are using a snapshot then you should use the
ports.tar.gz that comes with the snapshot, the packages that may be
available won't necessarily work (they usually do, but it's not by
design). There was a thread about it recently, I'm afraid I can't
recall the title though.

Patsy



Re: [PATCH] uticom driver fix

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 10:06:59AM +0100, Daniel Gracia wrote:
 Hi there!
 
 Being in need of uticom driver noticed that it didn't worked out of
 the box. Compiled, but opening the serial port twice panics the
 kernel.
 
 With the attached fix applyed to sys/dev/usb/uticom.c it's working
 for me now with single port devices.

The iface part looks right, but why change the bufsize handling?
Dmitry Komissaroff's original code seems to have it the way it
currently is.



Geomview man page woes

2010-12-11 Thread patsy
Hello list,

Attached is my current port of geomview - it's functionally unchanged
from the previous port.

I'm having a slight problem with the man pages though. Geomview is
adamant that their extension should be .Ngv (N == section). The man
command doesn't find such files, however, if I rename them to .N all is
well.

Is there a precedent for dealing with this? It looks as though editing
/etc/man.conf would work, but it seems...messy. I tried to look at the
FreeBSD port, but FreeBSD seems quite happy with the .Ngv extension.

It works on what was -current/amd64 about a week ago (and has been
working consistently on -current/amd64's since my original submission.


Any advice would be appreciated.

Patsy

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Re: Geomview man page woes

2010-12-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Patsy,

patsy wrote on Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:26:45PM +:

 Attached is my current port of geomview - it's functionally unchanged
 from the previous port.
 
 I'm having a slight problem with the man pages though. Geomview is
 adamant that their extension should be .Ngv (N == section). The man
 command doesn't find such files, however, if I rename them to .N all is
 well.

So, have the Makefile rename them after the fake-install stage.

 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/x-tar-gz]

Please send ports to ports@, not m...@.

Yours,
  Ingo



can't create softraid crypto volume

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
I'm trying to set up a softraid crypto volume on top of a disk partition
/dev/wd0j (on an i386 laptop running 4.8-release).  I'm using
  # bioctl -c C -r 10 -l /dev/wd0j softraid0
to try to initially create the softraid volume.  I expected this to
prompt me (twice) for a passphrase, then give me a softraid0 device
somehow accessible as /dev/sd0 or suchlike.  Instead, it complains
  bioctl: ioctl: Invalid argument
while my console window says
  softraid0: Invalid metadata format

What am I doing wrong?  What's the right way to initially create a
softraid crypto volume on top of a disk partition?  Is there a FM I
should R to be enlighted (beyond softraid(4) and bioctl(8) which I've
already read)?

thanks, ciao,

-- 
-- Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply] 
jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu
   Dept of Astronomy, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA
   Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.
  -- quote by Freire / poster by Oxfam



OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

2010-12-11 Thread Denise H. G.
Hi guys.

Recently I installed OpenBSD 4.8 and found out that it can't detect 4GB
memory on my amd64 box. From the output of dmesg I can see it detects
all the memory hardware (4x1G memory bars). Yet it can only use about
3.5G of them, like an i386 kernel does.

I've googled the issue and some say one has to 'config' the default
kernel (i.e., bsd.mp). But I am not very sure that I know how to do
that... My question is: Is there anything I can do to make bsd.mp detect
all the 4G memory on my amd64? There must be some way... I think.

Many Thanks!

-- 
When you are right be logical,
when you are wrong be-fuddle.



Re: can't create softraid crypto volume

2010-12-11 Thread Nick Holland
On 12/11/10 21:37, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a softraid crypto volume on top of a disk partition
 /dev/wd0j (on an i386 laptop running 4.8-release).  I'm using
   # bioctl -c C -r 10 -l /dev/wd0j softraid0
 to try to initially create the softraid volume.  I expected this to
 prompt me (twice) for a passphrase, then give me a softraid0 device
 somehow accessible as /dev/sd0 or suchlike.  Instead, it complains
   bioctl: ioctl: Invalid argument
 while my console window says
   softraid0: Invalid metadata format
 
 What am I doing wrong?  What's the right way to initially create a
 softraid crypto volume on top of a disk partition?  Is there a FM I
 should R to be enlighted (beyond softraid(4) and bioctl(8) which I've
 already read)?
 
 thanks, ciao,
 

Sounds like bioctl is seeing something that looks like a softraid
partition already in place.  Easy to do, 'specially in the learning
phase (create, change...ashes left behind).  Did you zero the start of
your wd0j partition?  is wd0j of fstype RAID in disklabel?

Nick.



Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory

2010-12-11 Thread Predrag Punosevac
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127593716916639w=1



Re: PF and States

2010-12-11 Thread dabheeruz

On 12/8/10 2:09 PM, Ryan McBride wrote:

On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:39:12PM -0800, dabheeruz wrote:

We are seeing the issue again and I am writing a script to get the
pfctl -vvsi data at regular intervals.  Can you please point me to
what values I should be looking out for?

You want to look for any of the counters in the Counters section besides
'match' increasing A Lot. How much depends on your specific situation,
but if you get a feel for what you see when you're NOT having problems,
you should be able to see if any of the counters increases suddenly.

In your case, the most likely ones are:

- memory
- congestion
- state-limit

Thanks Ryan!!



Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program

2010-12-11 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry folks,

 I was to quick in posting. Here are the details: I've installed from
 what is (was) today on snapshots on ftp server. Then I used the same
 ftp snapshot mirror for packages. That's all, no CVS, no compile, just
 plain install from what is (was) on snapshots - base  packages.

At least 'sysctl kern.version' will be fine

 This was after a long pause of using OpenBSD as a desktop, I was using
 it only as a router. I had to do this to give a try to Ubuntu, but I
 was disappointed with it and came back to old and stable stuff. I did
 the same install like in the old times, get the snapshot and go.
 First, my ATI HD4350 refused to startx, effectively putting my display
 in some unusable state: I had to remove power from display to get it
 back online. I searched the archive and found out that Xorg became a
 joke since Intel put some code in it. Too sad.

OpenBSD has its own version of X based on Xorg called Xenocara.
(www.xenocara.org)

man radeon (because there is RV710   Radeon HD 4350/4550).
So your card is supported, but you must send your dmesg, xorg.conf,
Xorg.0.log and probably 'pcidump -v' (because there will be details
about your card).

 Then I got the messages about symbol size mismatch. I've installed
 empathy but got some strange messages like Cannot execute the script
 ... (not a manual?) and empathy refused to start being unable to load
 some lib.so files. Now I replaced the ATI HD4350 with ATI X1650 and
 managed to get X working.
 Are there new things in snapshot which I don't know ? Should I wait
 for another compile of packages, to have a date close to the base
 compile time ?
 If X is so crappy, is there another thing to use ?

 Many thanks.