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Re: Ideas for securing OpenVPN on an OpenWrt router
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:40:16 -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote: Why does using only UDP gives more security?? He didn't say it did. TCP-over-TCP is the problem. TCP-over-UDP is less fractious. http://sites.inka.de/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few
websites:
{ +redirect{s@http://@https://@} }
.twitter.com
.facebook.com
Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any *twitter.com URL it gets
redirected to HTTPS!
But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ]
Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS?
Is my redirection method with privoxy is secure?
Thank you for any tips/opinions!
Re: Ideas for securing OpenVPN on an OpenWrt router
ohh, ok, got it! my opinion: using vpn with tcp could be good, because there could be firewalls only allowing tcp [on port e.g.: 443], if you want to vpn home from youre workplace Be Wed, 09 Mar 2011 01:11:38 -0800 Rod Whitworth lt;glis...@witworx.comgt; C-rta On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:40:16 -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote: gt;Why does using only UDP gives more security?? He didn't say it did. TCP-over-TCP is the problem. TCP-over-UDP is less fractious. http://sites.inka.de/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I lt;amgt; subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
Re: Ideas for securing OpenVPN on an OpenWrt router
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:40:16 -0800 erikmccaskey64 wrote: 3 - if i don't use my router - e.g.: when i'm sleeping i just turn it off. Well that's a controversial one, yes it's said an attacker will wait to see if your online for long before attacking but it's more of a Windows type defence and could be seen as trading security for obscurity. The boot up phase whilst likely one of the cleanest stages is also one of the most priviledged and vulnerable. Of course it's a lot easier to protect your bios/chips and have a read only root on OpenBSD ;-) which IMO is definately the best OS for a router money can buy. I can't believe off the shelf linux routers being rebooted is tollerated or ones that send packets you haven't told them too (cisco and a freebsd one I had). I was in PC World seeing out of interest if they had ANY laptops that weren't widescreen once and asked if this laser printer came with toners more than a third full (printers cheaper than the toners!!!). He said I'll have a lookHold on I'll just go and reset the router, and they're the ones telling people what to buy, too.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:03:25AM +0100, rancor wrote: We are running stock OpenBSD 4.8 on several DL360 G6 and G7 and a additional HP NC364T PCI Express Quad Port Gigabit Server Adapter. We are running them in pairs as a firewall cluster with pfsync and carp and also as stand alone as a router but we have problem with random freezes. We have tried both AMD64 and i386, all patched up to latest errata but we can't make them work stable. Now are we using VMware ESXi as a layer between the hardware and OpenBSD and every thing works just perfect, not a single freeze since we did this .. work around Our bug report on this matter: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6321 That bug report is not very useful to a developer and way too old. Get a serial cable and run the latest snapshot (without disabling any devices). Capture dmesg and panic, type trace, ps - show registers may also be helpful. No screenshots. If you want help, YOU need to provide this information OR ship the hw to someone who wants to look into it. Whining on misc@ is certainly not going to fix anything. Since we don't know how to resolve this our future with OpenBSD is most unsure, we have more then 50 installations on different platforms and it's only G6 och G7 that are causing any problem. It's hard to say if it's only us since I never hear anything about this issue but we sure feels alone. Regards 2011/3/9 llj7 sg...@ktis.kr: I am looking to purchase the server for OpenBSD 4.8 OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK? Or another Recent HP Server ? Help me PLZ
Re: Custom bsd.rd contents
Hi, On Sun, 27.02.2011 at 18:52:28 -0500, Adam Van Ymeren adam.v...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to modify the contents of the ram disk in a bsd.rd kernel. Is there any documentation on this process? Or can anyone point in my a good direction to start looking? you might find this example interesting: http://nbender.com/install.netboot/install.html Kind regards, --Toni++
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
On 03/09/11 09:30, erikmccaskey64 wrote:
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few
websites:
{ +redirect{s@http://@https://@} }
.twitter.com
.facebook.com
Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any *twitter.com URL it gets
redirected to HTTPS!
But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ]
Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS?
Is my redirection method with privoxy is secure?
Thank you for any tips/opinions!
Hi,
SSL Certificates chains should be validated before they are used, OCSP is one
method used as part of the validation process, this is done during the
establishment of an SSL connection and is not encrypted. SSL encryption should
only be used once the certificate / public key chain has been validated.
If a certificate chain is compromised you don't want to use it, because someone
might be decrypting the traffic thought to be safe.
Look in the certificates you will find URLs for CRL, and/or OSCP.
Regards
Nigel Taylor
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
I have been asking for how I can provide more information but the question was not answered. Im not whining, Im just providing my experience. I would be happy to provide more information if some body asked my in my report and also told me what to do because I don't know and If I did I had provided that information in the first place. If you got better experience with DL360 G7 (and G6) please tell us how your setup was so that this user can install without any problem and I can resolve my issues. In other case please shut up with your lame attitude and start to help instead of beeing an arsehole. Regards Den 9 mar 2011 11.21 skrev Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:03:25AM +0100, rancor wrote: We are running stock OpenBSD 4.8 on several DL360 G6 and G7 and a additional HP NC364T PCI Express Quad Port Gigabit Server Adapter. We are running them in pairs as a firewall cluster with pfsync and carp and also as stand alone as a router but we have problem with random freezes. We have tried both AMD64 and i386, all patched up to latest errata but we can't make them work stable. Now are we using VMware ESXi as a layer between the hardware and OpenBSD and every thing works just perfect, not a single freeze since we did this .. work around Our bug report on this matter: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6321 That bug report is not very useful to a developer and way too old. Get a serial cable and run the latest snapshot (without disabling any devices). Capture dmesg and panic, type trace, ps - show registers may also be helpful. No screenshots. If you want help, YOU need to provide this information OR ship the hw to someone who wants to look into it. Whining on misc@ is certainly not going to fix anything. Since we don't know how to resolve this our future with OpenBSD is most unsure, we have more then 50 installations on different platforms and it's only G6 och G7 that are causing any problem. It's hard to say if it's only us since I never hear anything about this issue but we sure feels alone. Regards 2011/3/9 l l j7 sg...@ktis.kr: I am looking to purchase the server for OpenBSD 4.8 OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK? Or another Recent HP Server ? Help me PLZ
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:39:16AM +0100, rancor wrote: I have been asking for how I can provide more information but the question was not answered. Im not whining, Im just providing my experience. I would be happy to provide more information if some body asked my in my report and also told me what to do because I don't know and If I did I had provided that information in the first place. If you got better experience with DL360 G7 (and G6) please tell us how your setup was so that this user can install without any problem and I can resolve my issues. In other case please shut up with your lame attitude and start to help instead of beeing an arsehole. Awww, how about you take a cold shower and read the mail again. The first paragraph has all the steps to write a more detailed bug report. Regards Den 9 mar 2011 11.21 skrev Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:03:25AM +0100, rancor wrote: We are running stock OpenBSD 4.8 on several DL360 G6 and G7 and a additional HP NC364T PCI Express Quad Port Gigabit Server Adapter. We are running them in pairs as a firewall cluster with pfsync and carp and also as stand alone as a router but we have problem with random freezes. We have tried both AMD64 and i386, all patched up to latest errata but we can't make them work stable. Now are we using VMware ESXi as a layer between the hardware and OpenBSD and every thing works just perfect, not a single freeze since we did this .. work around Our bug report on this matter: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6321 That bug report is not very useful to a developer and way too old. Get a serial cable and run the latest snapshot (without disabling any devices). Capture dmesg and panic, type trace, ps - show registers may also be helpful. No screenshots. If you want help, YOU need to provide this information OR ship the hw to someone who wants to look into it. Whining on misc@ is certainly not going to fix anything. Since we don't know how to resolve this our future with OpenBSD is most unsure, we have more then 50 installations on different platforms and it's only G6 och G7 that are causing any problem. It's hard to say if it's only us since I never hear anything about this issue but we sure feels alone. Regards 2011/3/9 l l j7 sg...@ktis.kr: I am looking to purchase the server for OpenBSD 4.8 OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK? Or another Recent HP Server ? Help me PLZ
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On 3/7/2011 9:03 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote: I have no idea what you think you've been told, but: a) do NOT post private mail publicly - it's rude; Sorry. I didn't realize. b) follow the FAQ, including the 'r' in /dev/rsd0a - it works. Thanks Joachim. That's it, it works. I didn't know what rsd0a meant as fdisk and disklabel were refering to sd0a... I think it would be nice to add a little note in the docs explaining what 'r' stands for and that you should add it in front of your device name to access it while being used. I also think it would be great to add msdos and ntfs support in the installation cdrom (no it's not there). Ubuntu has it, it should be possible. openbcd looks interesting but it's a shame it's not open source... thanks everybody for your comments, best marc
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
From an HP DL360 G6... OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC.MP) #1: Fri Feb 11 22:42:45 UTC 2011 r...@example.com:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5504 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.01 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16, xTPR real mem = 3747373056 (3573MB) avail mem = 3647221760 (3478MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xdf7fe000 (127 entries) bios0: vendor HP version P64 date 03/30/2010 bios0: HP ProLiant DL360 G6 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SPCR MCFG HPET SPMI ERST APIC SRAT BERT HEST DMAR SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: unknown i686 model 0x1a, can't get bus clock (0x0) cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5504 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.01 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16, xTPR cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5504 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.01 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16, xTPR cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5504 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.01 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16, xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec8, version 20, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 1 (IP2P) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (IPT1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PT01) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 10 (PT02) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 7 (PT03) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 11 (PT04) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 12 (PT05) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 13 (PT06) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 14 (PT07) acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 2 (PT08) acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus 4 (PT09) acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus 15 (PT0A) acpiprt12 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3, C3, C1 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 31 degC bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000 0xcb000/0x3600! 0xce600/0x2c00! 0xd1200/0x4000 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0: EST: PSS not yet available for this processor pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 5520 Host rev 0x13 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci1 at ppb0 bus 3 ciss0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Hewlett-Packard Smart Array rev 0x01: apic 0 int 4 (irq 7) ciss0: 1 LD, HW rev 2, FW 3.00/3.00, 64bit fifo rro scsibus0 at ciss0: 1 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HP, LOGICAL VOLUME, 3.00 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 69973MB, 512 bytes/sec, 143305920 sec total ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci2 at ppb1 bus 10 ppb2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci3 at ppb2 bus 7 em0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic 0 int 0 (irq 7), address 00:15:17:ff:ff:ff em1 at pci3 dev 0 function 1 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06: apic 0 int 10 (irq 11), address 00:15:17:ff:ff:ff ppb3 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci4 at ppb3 bus 11 ppb4 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci5 at ppb4 bus 12 ppb5 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci6 at ppb5 bus 13 ppb6 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci7 at ppb6 bus 14 ppb7 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci8 at ppb7 bus 2 bnx0 at pci8 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5709 rev 0x20: apic 0 int 7 (irq 7) bnx1 at pci8 dev 0 function 1 Broadcom BCM5709 rev 0x20: apic 0 int 15 (irq 11) ppb8 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci9 at ppb8 bus 4 ppb9 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 Intel X58 PCIE rev 0x13 pci10 at ppb9 bus 15 pchb1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343a rev 0x13 pchb2 at pci0 dev 13 function 1 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343b rev 0x13 pchb3 at pci0 dev 13 function 2 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343c rev 0x13 pchb4 at pci0 dev 13 function 3 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x343d rev 0x13 pchb5 at pci0 dev 13 function 4 Intel 5520/X58 QuickPath rev 0x13 pchb6 at pci0 dev 13 function 5 Intel 5520 QuickPath rev 0x13 pchb7 at pci0 dev 13 function 6 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341a rev 0x13 pchb8 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x341c rev 0x13 pchb9 at pci0 dev 14 function 1
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On 2011-03-09, marc li...@drwx.org wrote: I also think it would be great to add msdos and ntfs support in the installation cdrom (no it's not there). msdos support *is* there on most arch. ntfs support wouldn't be worth the space, considering you can't safely write files with it. Ubuntu has it irrelevant.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
No, sadly not. The machines are now in use and I don't have any to spare. I needed that information when I reported the problem, it's kind of late now but I sure will use the information next time I run into problem when I'm validating a new environment. Best Regards 2011/3/9 Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:39:16AM +0100, rancor wrote: I have been asking for how I can provide more information but the question was not answered. Im not whining, Im just providing my experience. I would be happy to provide more information if some body asked my in my report and also told me what to do because I don't know and If I did I had provided that information in the first place. If you got better experience with DL360 G7 (and G6) please tell us how your setup was so that this user can install without any problem and I can resolve my issues. In other case please shut up with your lame attitude and start to help instead of beeing an arsehole. Awww, how about you take a cold shower and read the mail again. The first paragraph has all the steps to write a more detailed bug report. Regards Den 9 mar 2011 11.21 skrev Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:03:25AM +0100, rancor wrote: We are running stock OpenBSD 4.8 on several DL360 G6 and G7 and a additional HP NC364T PCI Express Quad Port Gigabit Server Adapter. We are running them in pairs as a firewall cluster with pfsync and carp and also as stand alone as a router but we have problem with random freezes. We have tried both AMD64 and i386, all patched up to latest errata but we can't make them work stable. Now are we using VMware ESXi as a layer between the hardware and OpenBSD and every thing works just perfect, not a single freeze since we did this .. work around Our bug report on this matter: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6321 That bug report is not very useful to a developer and way too old. Get a serial cable and run the latest snapshot (without disabling any devices). Capture dmesg and panic, type trace, ps - show registers may also be helpful. No screenshots. If you want help, YOU need to provide this information OR ship the hw to someone who wants to look into it. Whining on misc@ is certainly not going to fix anything. Since we don't know how to resolve this our future with OpenBSD is most unsure, we have more then 50 installations on different platforms and it's only G6 och G7 that are causing any problem. It's hard to say if it's only us since I never hear anything about this issue but we sure feels alone. Regards 2011/3/9 l l j7 sg...@ktis.kr: I am looking to purchase the server for OpenBSD 4.8 OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK? Or another Recent HP Server ? Help me PLZ
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:39:16AM +0100, rancor wrote: I have been asking for how I can provide more information but the question was not answered. Im not whining, Im just providing my experience. I would be happy to provide more information if some body asked my in my report and also told me what to do because I don't know and If I did I had provided that information in the first place. If you got better experience with DL360 G7 (and G6) please tell us how your setup was so that this user can install without any problem and I can resolve my issues. In other case please shut up with your lame attitude and start to help instead of beeing an arsehole. The requirements for a useful bug report are also laid out at http://openbsd.org/report.html Of particular interest in point 5 of How to Create a Bug Report is Panic reports without panic message, traceback and ps output are useless. And if one follows the link in the PR, this is indeed a panic report, not a system hang. With no trace of the crash or even mentioning the panic message, the report does not provide anything we can work on. The panic message is visible via the link you posted but would be more likely to be read if included in the report. All that said, many many bugs in pfsync/carp in particular are fixed in 4.9, and reproducing the problem on 4.9-current would be extremely useful. A 4.6 report with no useful information is likely to be closed soon. Ken
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
Brett Lymn bl...@baea.com.au writes: [...] The safest way to do a dump is when the machine is in single user mode for this very reason but many people play fast and loose because they cannot wear the outage for a backup, in that case you must quiesce the file systems as best you can. Really, this is well known unix sys admin procedure. That make sense but it makes me wonder how one practically use dump/restore to do regular backup ? Tell users, go to the machine room, boot -s and dump ? I thought that it was something done in cron on a running machine. -- Manuel Giraud
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:01:17PM +0100, marc wrote: On 3/7/2011 9:03 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote: I have no idea what you think you've been told, but: a) do NOT post private mail publicly - it's rude; Sorry. I didn't realize. b) follow the FAQ, including the 'r' in /dev/rsd0a - it works. Thanks Joachim. That's it, it works. I didn't know what rsd0a meant as fdisk and disklabel were refering to sd0a... I think it would be nice to add a little note in the docs explaining what 'r' stands for and that you should add it in front of your device name to access it while being used. The distinction between raw character devices and block devices is very old and fundamental in Unixes. It will be hard to add that little note in all places it might be useful. The hints are there in the docs and probably in the archives to be found... dd(1): : EXAMPLES Write an OpenBSD floppy image to a floppy disk: # dd if=floppy34.fs of=/dev/rfd0c bs=32k Create an ISO-9660 image of a CD-ROM: # dd if=/dev/rcd0c of=disk.iso bs=32k disklabel(8): : diskSpecify the disk to operate on. It can be specified by its full pathname, by an abbreviated disk form, or by its disklabel UID. In its abbreviated form, the path to the device, the `r' denoting raw device, and the partition letter, can all be omitted. For example, the first IDE disk can be specified as either /dev/rwd0c, /dev/wd0c, or wd0. FAQ 14 - Disk Setup : Partition identification An OpenBSD filesystem is identified by the disk it is on, plus the file system partition on that disk. So, file systems may be identified by identifiers like sd0a (the a partition of the first sd device), wd2h (the h partition of the third wd device), or sd1c (the entire second sd device). The device files would be /dev/sd0a for the block device, /dev/rsd0a would be the device file for the raw (character) device. I also think it would be great to add msdos and ntfs support in the installation cdrom (no it's not there). Ubuntu has it, it should be possible. There is msdos filesystem support in bsd.rd: OpenBSD 4.9-beta (RAMDISK_CD) #304: Tue Feb 1 19:19:33 MST 2011 # mount -t msdos /dev/sd0i /mnt It works just fine. The mount programs in /sbin in bsd.rd are: mount_cd9660, mount_ext2fs, mount_ffs, mount_msdos and mount_udf. There is no newfs_msdos, if that is what you mean. Nevertheless msdos filesystems are preferably created from Windows. That ramdisk kernel should be the same as on an install CD. I have used mount_msdos from bsd.rd numerous times to transfer an OpenBSD boot sector to the Windows bootloader using a msdos partition on a USB flash key. You can even partition the disk from the OpenBSD installer, create the msdos filesystem from Windows, and mount it writable from OpenBSD. openbcd looks interesting but it's a shame it's not open source... thanks everybody for your comments, best marc -- / Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:30:39AM -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote:
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few
websites:
{ +redirect{s@http://@https://@} }
.twitter.com
.facebook.com
Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any *twitter.com URL it gets
redirected to HTTPS!
But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ]
Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS?
Is my redirection method with privoxy is secure?
The keys to legitimate certificates may fall in the hands of bad guys
(e.g. when they hack a HTTPS server). This would allow the bad guys to
redirect your HTTPS connections to their own machines without you seeing
any warnings until the stolen certificates are no longer valid (which
should allow them something like a year to steal your credit card).
In order to prevent this, your computer asks a special server whether
the certificate has been revoked. This is done over the OCSP protocol
(there are other solutions); the connection is not encrypted, but the
OCSP server's responses are digitally signed.
So yes, your setup seems to work just fine (or as well as SSL does in
the first place). The HTTPS Everywhere Firefox extension would be a
less hacky solution, though.
Joachim
--
PotD: biology/bioperl - perl tools for bioinformatics
http://www.joachimschipper.nl/
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On 2011-03-09 07.48, Brett Lymn wrote: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:49:04AM +0100, Benny Lofgren wrote: I don't know about the rest of you guys, but to me that sounds exactly like a bug... especially since nothing is mentioned of such behaviour in the dump man page. Well, you would have to totally redo the guts of dump if you want to fix this well known behaviour. Dump scans and writes the meta-data first and then writes the data for the files. If you have ever used restore you would note that it builds the directory structure first and then puts the data back. Dump comes unstuck when the file system meta data changes during the backup - when files are added or deleted. The safest way to do a dump is when the machine is in single user mode for this very reason but many people play fast and loose because they cannot wear the outage for a backup, in that case you must quiesce the file systems as best you can. Really, this is well known unix sys admin procedure. Oh, I'm well aware of how dump and restore works. I only objected to the behaviour the OP described not being labeled as a bug. (Ok, in fact there is a mention in man restore, where it states in the bugs section that restore can get confused when doing incremental restores from dumps that were made on active file systems. The definition of confused however, is... well, confusing. :-) ) I may have misread the OP (english not being my first language, after all), but my interpretation was that the question of whether there is a bug was concerning the endless loop due to not recognizing none rather than restore:s confusion as to how many dump volumes there were in the dump set. Have a go at fixing it, by all means, but note that people _like_ the interactive restore mode where you can select the files to restore by browsing and would find it unacceptable to wait for a full tape scan before they can perform this task. It will be interesting to see how you go about handling files appearing and disappearing during the backup. Not having looked at the source I'm probably putting my foot in my mouth here, but it wouldn't seem that impossible to fix restore so that it recognizes the none input properly in the OP:s described context (especially since it recommends it itself in the prompt!). Regards, /Benny -- internetlabbet.se / work: +46 8 551 124 80 / Words must Benny LC6fgren/ mobile: +46 70 718 11 90 / be weighed, / fax:+46 8 551 124 89/not counted. /email: benny -at- internetlabbet.se
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On 03/08/11 16:20, Brett Lymn wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:50:19PM -0700, Jeff Ross wrote: Is this worthy of a bug report or is there a peback afoot here? Unlikely to be a bug more likely that you did a dump of a file system that was changing while the dump was in progress. This breaks the backup and produces the sort of symptoms you are seeing when trying to do a restore. That's not very likely since this is from my OpenBSD workstation at work taken in the middle of the night when I'm not there and httpd is only set up to listen on localhost. Regardless, the problem I was writing about is that restore is asking for a next volume and telling me to enter none if there are no more tapes and when I enter none, or none or any other combination of none, it says: You have read volumes: 1 Specify next volume #: none Volume number invalid: none Specify next volume #: none Volume number invalid: none If I enter the non-existent volume number of 2, it tells me Cannot open 2 and then asks for the next volume. The only way I found out of this loop is to ctrl-c. That's the bug I'm asking about, but if what you write above is correct my belief that dump is an adequate backup is now in question. No where in the dump man page does it say that and that certainly flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about how dump does its job. Thanks Jeff
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:30 AM, erikmccaskey64 erikmccaske...@zoho.com wrote: I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few websites: What version of OpenBSD are you running? -- -- Paul D. Ouderkirk Senior UNIX System Administrator p...@ouderkirk.ca -- laughing, in the mechanism -- William Gibson
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Re: Ideas for securing OpenVPN on an OpenWrt router
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:40:16 -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote: Why does using only UDP gives more security?? He didn't say it did. TCP-over-TCP is the problem. TCP-over-UDP is less fractious. http://sites.inka.de/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html True. Also it's more resilient to dos attacks than on tcp. http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#security Giannis [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Install OK?
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:08:07PM +0100, rancor wrote: No, sadly not. The machines are now in use and I don't have any to spare. I needed that information when I reported the problem, it's kind of late now but I sure will use the information next time I run into problem when I'm validating a new environment. Best Regards OK, I'll close the PR and you can submit a new one when you have time/hardware to test. Thanks. Ken
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:01 AM, marc li...@drwx.org wrote: I think it would be nice to add a little note in the docs explaining what 'r' stands for and that you should add it in front of your device name to access it while being used. See Section 14.1 of the FAQ.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On 2011-03-09 16.28, Jeff Ross wrote: The only way I found out of this loop is to ctrl-c. That's the bug I'm asking about, but if what you write above is correct my belief that dump is an adequate backup is now in question. No where in the dump man page does it say that and that certainly flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about how dump does its job. I don't think the problem is so much with dump as it is with restore, and even there it's likely not more than a nuisance for the operator. Don't gamble any important data solely on that opinion, though... /B -- internetlabbet.se / work: +46 8 551 124 80 / Words must Benny Lvfgren/ mobile: +46 70 718 11 90 / be weighed, / fax:+46 8 551 124 89/not counted. /email: benny -at- internetlabbet.se
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
First of all, thanks for all the feedback. (at FAQ 4.9) I still think that adding a note that rsd0 is the name of the raw character device associated to the device sd0 and that consequently you can find the correct parameter for dd in your system by adding an 'r' to the device listed in disklabel which is associated to /, would be useful to future illiterates like me. On 3/9/2011 2:04 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-03-09, marcli...@drwx.org wrote: I also think it would be great to add msdos and ntfs support in the installation cdrom (no it's not there). msdos support *is* there on most arch. not on amd64 (OpenBSD 4.8)... I doubled checked. There are only mount_cdf9660,mount_ffs,mount_udf. ntfs support wouldn't be worth the space, considering you can't safely write files with it. Ubuntu has it irrelevant. well Ubuntu has it, and I never had problems writing files with it. if there is open source code around that works, I don't think this is irrelevant... It might provide some great inspiration... (even if it is probably hard work).
Re: Relayd -- FQDN length limit?
An update,
I have had a chance to start Relayd with verbose logging to troubleshoot
this, and I get the following on startup with any FQDN longer than 32
characters in relayd.conf (config details are the same as in my previous
email):
SSL library error: ..com:
relay_ssl_ctx_create: error:140DB111:SSL
routines:SSL_CTX_set_session_id_context:ssl session id context too long
fatal: relay_init: failed to create SSL context: Invalid argument
It doesn't look like there's a hard limit for FQDN length in the source
for relayd, anybody have any ideas?
Thanks,
Andrew Klettke
Systems Admin
Optic Fusion NOC
253-830-2943
On 02/04/2011 04:04 PM, Andrew Klettke wrote:
Hello all,
It looks like we've run into a limit for the length of a SSL hostname
in relayd.
If we define a relay with a hostname that is longer than 32
characters, we get the following:
Feb 1 22:14:00 fw02 relayd[22062]: fatal: relay_init: failed to
create SSL context: No buffer space available
However, shorter hostnames do not cause relayd to throw the error.
We've tested this with multiple domain names.
Is this an expected behavior of relayd?
Here is the defined protocol and the relay giving us the issue in
relayd.conf (FQDN censored):
http protocol httpsfilter {
tcp { nodelay, sack, socket buffer 65536, backlog 100 }
return error
header append $REMOTE_ADDR to X-Forwarded-For
header append $SERVER_ADDR:$SERVER_PORT to X-Forwarded-By
header change Keep-Alive to $TIMEOUT
ssl { sslv3, tlsv1, no sslv2, ciphers
HIGH:MEDIUM:!aNULL:+SHA1:+MD5:+HIGH:+MEDIUM }
}
relay ..com {
listen on ..com port 443 ssl
protocol httpsfilter
forward to web_hosts port 443 mode loadbalance check http /
code 200
}
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:30:39AM -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote:
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few
websites:
{ +redirect{s@http://@https://@} }
.twitter.com
.facebook.com
Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any *twitter.com URL it gets
redirected to HTTPS!
But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ]
Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS?
Is my redirection method with privoxy is secure?
The keys to legitimate certificates may fall in the hands of bad guys
(e.g. when they hack a HTTPS server). This would allow the bad guys to
redirect your HTTPS connections to their own machines without you seeing
any warnings until the stolen certificates are no longer valid (which
should allow them something like a year to steal your credit card).
In order to prevent this, your computer asks a special server whether
the certificate has been revoked. This is done over the OCSP protocol
(there are other solutions); the connection is not encrypted, but the
OCSP server's responses are digitally signed.
So yes, your setup seems to work just fine (or as well as SSL does in
the first place). The HTTPS Everywhere Firefox extension would be a
less hacky solution, though.
i'm curious as to why do you say that. afaik, https everywhere also
works by rewriting the uri, just like privoxy or squid would, while
not being limited to one browser, not being unable to log actions, not
being unable to scale for a whole site instead of a single system,
etc.
B B B B B B B B Joachim
--
PotD: biology/bioperl - perl tools for bioinformatics
http://www.joachimschipper.nl/
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:01:17 +0100, marc wrote: openbcd looks interesting but it's a shame it's not open source... Is that an alternate bcdedit or a typo meaning OpenBSD? *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 03:03:22PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote:
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 01:30:39AM -0800, erikmccaskey64 wrote:
I use privoxy. In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a
few websites:
{ +redirect{s@http://@https://@} }
.twitter.com
.facebook.com
(...) your setup seems to work just fine (or as well as SSL does in
the first place). The HTTPS Everywhere Firefox extension would be a
less hacky solution, though.
i'm curious as to why do you say that. afaik, https everywhere also
works by rewriting the uri, just like privoxy or squid would, while
not being limited to one browser, not being unable to log actions, not
being unable to scale for a whole site instead of a single system,
etc.
I dislike transparently messing with connections. If you use HTTPS
Everywhere, it's still your browser talking to
Facebook/Twitter/whatever.
Additionally, if Facebook ever sets its session cookes on, say,
facebookapi.com instead of facebook.com, the extension is likely to
receive an upgrade.
But yes, this is somewhat subjective; I'll try to make that clearer next
time.
Joachim
--
TFMotD: perlrequick (1) - Perl regular expressions quick start
http://www.joachimschipper.nl/
Re: what is the “Online Certificate Status Protocol”
The simple answer as to why OCSP isn't itself via HTTPS is that this would be a cyclical dependency: if you need to accept a certificate, you need to confirm its continuing validity. If you have to use a connection relying on that same logic to confirm validity, at what point are you then able to make a connection? The cryptographic component of OCSP, as WIkipedia points out, is providing a validating signature with the response. On 9 Mar 2011, at 09:30, erikmccaskey64 wrote: But: with wireshark i can see some OCSP packets [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ] Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
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Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
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it requires driver modifications for all 802.11n supporting chips, and ieee80211 infrastructure update to add support for new modulation rates other new 11n techniques that are tied into the stack Hugo Osvaldo Barrera [h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar] wrote: I know that 802.11n is not supported yet, however, I was wondering: Is anyone working on this? What needs to be done to add support to n? I'd like to contribute if possible, I don't mind if it's a LOT of work, but I will probably get stuck if it's very complicated. Does just ieee80211(9) need to be modified, or do drivers need to be updated as well? (I feel modifying drivers is really out of my league as far as programming experience goes)? -- Hugo Osvaldo Barrera Sent using my PC -- the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:09 +0100, marc li...@drwx.org wrote: First of all, thanks for all the feedback. (at FAQ 4.9) I still think that adding a note that rsd0 is the name of the raw character device associated to the device sd0 and that consequently you can find the correct parameter for dd in your system by adding an 'r' to the device listed in disklabel which is associated to /, would be useful to future illiterates like me. Read a book on UNIX. Seriously. Knowing the difference between raw and block devices sorta falls under the category of basic UNIX knowledge. When using a utility like dd, OpenBSD man pages assume you have basic UNIX knowledge. The man pages nor the FAQ are considered to be tutorials in the use of UNIX. I'm not trying to be a smartass. I'm trying to help you before some one is actually rude to you if you persist in this line of argument.
Re: obtaining openbsd.pbr from windows 7
On 03/09/11 13:09, marc wrote: First of all, thanks for all the feedback. (at FAQ 4.9) I still think that adding a note that rsd0 is the name of the raw character device associated to the device sd0 and that consequently you can find the correct parameter for dd in your system by adding an 'r' to the device listed in disklabel which is associated to /, would be useful to future illiterates like me. The most important section of 4.9 is often ignored, in spite of my putting it in the first paragraph: Multibooting is having several operating systems on one computer, and some means of selecting which OS is to boot. It is not a trivial task! If you don't understand what you are doing, you may end up deleting large amounts of data from your computer. New OpenBSD users are strongly encouraged to start with a blank hard drive on a dedicated machine, and then practice your desired configuration on a non-production system before attempting a multiboot configuration on a production machine. FAQ 14 has more information about the OpenBSD boot process. Note the 2nd, 3rd and 4th sentences. Multibooting is not for novice users. This section is not for teaching you how OpenBSD works or any of dozens of other OSs that could be multibooted with OpenBSD. It is to provide guidance for people who are very familiar with all the OSs they are planning on using on one machine. On 3/9/2011 2:04 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-03-09, marcli...@drwx.org wrote: I also think it would be great to add msdos and ntfs support in the installation cdrom (no it's not there). msdos support *is* there on most arch. not on amd64 (OpenBSD 4.8)... I doubled checked. There are only mount_cdf9660,mount_ffs,mount_udf. ntfs support wouldn't be worth the space, considering you can't safely write files with it. Ubuntu has it irrelevant. well Ubuntu has it, and I never had problems writing files with it. if there is open source code around that works, I don't think this is irrelevant... It might provide some great inspiration... (even if it is probably hard work). Read up on licensing. open source code by the Linux definition can not be used in a system following the BSD/ISC/MIT license. http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html Nick.
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Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 06:54:07PM +0100, Benny Lofgren wrote: I don't think the problem is so much with dump as it is with restore, and even there it's likely not more than a nuisance for the operator. Don't gamble any important data solely on that opinion, though... When I have seen this situation myself it has resulted in data loss. The backup is bad. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:28:31AM -0700, Jeff Ross wrote: On 03/08/11 16:20, Brett Lymn wrote: Unlikely to be a bug more likely that you did a dump of a file system that was changing while the dump was in progress. This breaks the backup and produces the sort of symptoms you are seeing when trying to do a restore. That's not very likely since this is from my OpenBSD workstation at work taken in the middle of the night when I'm not there and httpd is only set up to listen on localhost. No log rotations? Changing directory entries seems to be the most likely culprit for having the problem. That's the bug I'm asking about, but if what you write above is correct my belief that dump is an adequate backup is now in question. No where in the dump man page does it say that and that certainly flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about how dump does its job. It is not likely to be a bug it is far more likely that your backup was broken by things changing under dump's feet. It was broken because you had an incomplete understanding of how dump works. Dump is fine to use when the system is in multiuser as long as you take care to ensure changes to meta-data is not done during the backup. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
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Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:47:54PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Instead of helping a person who might have found a bug, I think you are talking out of your ass. If you say so Theo. Oddly, I have experienced exactly those systems with backups from an file system that was being actively changed while dump was doing its work. I am sure both myself and Jeff will be thrilled when you find the bug. thanks. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 04:25:50PM +1030, Brett Lymn wrote: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:47:54PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Instead of helping a person who might have found a bug, I think you are talking out of your ass. If you say so Theo. Oddly, I have experienced exactly those systems sorry... symptoms not systems. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:59:45PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: And when you did, did not file a bug report. Not on OpenBSD. And you did work on a patch. Not on OpenBSD So you suck. I am sure both myself and Jeff will be thrilled when you find the bug. thanks. You are a pathetic loser. And it is this sort of nasty backchannel sniping that ensures it won't be on OpenBSD. I don't care about your opinion Theo. Not one bit. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
If you feel so strongly about it that you feel it to forward private correspondence, then please leave our mailing lists. I am sure others will feel the same; those of you who do, feel free to explain the concept to him. I still think you are a loser. If you have endured a real bug for a long time, and not filed a bug report to have it fixed.. and then feel it is your right to scold people who attempt to explain the bug, then quite frankly, then YOU TOTALLY SUCK. On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:59:45PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: And when you did, did not file a bug report. Not on OpenBSD. And you did work on a patch. Not on OpenBSD So you suck. I am sure both myself and Jeff will be thrilled when you find the bug. thanks. You are a pathetic loser. And it is this sort of nasty backchannel sniping that ensures it won't be on OpenBSD. I don't care about your opinion Theo. Not one bit. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
Re: restore wants a new tape but none exists!
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:13:33PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: If you feel so strongly about it that you feel it to forward private correspondence, then please leave our mailing lists. Only following your lead. I am sure others will feel the same; those of you who do, feel free to explain the concept to him. Ah the invitation for the brands and pitchforks. How nice to rally the troops to do your dirty work and muddy the thread with random flagellation attempts. I still think you are a loser. If you have endured a real bug for a long time, and not filed a bug report to have it fixed.. and then feel it is your right to scold people who attempt to explain the bug, then quite frankly, then YOU TOTALLY SUCK. Certainly not unusual on this list for people to scold people for real bugs, perhaps I am guilty of this now too.. Show us the code for this one, I would like to understand it. Certainly, ever since I have been a system admin the recommended way of running dump was in single user mode if you could to ensure a consistent backup. Maybe I have misunderstood what Pass III and Pass IV of the dump messages mean. -- Brett Lymn Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer.
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