Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)
On 7/5/2013 8:50 PM, Andres Perera wrote: so yes that indeed seems like crazy things in windows The documentation says to send a HUP signal to mountd to reload the changes in /etc/exports. However, after making changes, I am still able to mount *and* open files from entries I removed in /etc/exports. Not only that, I've have been unable to share /usr/src successfully since the first try. Whether it's a Windows or OpenBSD problem, this isn't suitable for my needs.
Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)
to complete what i said, you *should* be able to mount /usr and then /usr/src, so yes that indeed seems like crazy things in windows however you also had another expectation (which i also had when starting with nfs): that nfs mounting /usr would recursively mount contained exports On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Nathan Goings wrote: > On 7/5/2013 7:33 PM, Andres Perera wrote: >> >> you want nested nfs mounts which nfsv3/2 can't provide >> >> the export is associated to the mount point, it won't cross device limits >> >> either put /usr/src in the same file system, or use another nfs host > > > Thanks! I think for now, I'll just export /usr/src/sys so I can work on > this driver. > > However, it's odd that I can't mount both (starting with /usr). I'm not > sure if that's a limitation for NFS or NFS client services for Windows.
Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)
On 7/5/2013 7:33 PM, Andres Perera wrote: you want nested nfs mounts which nfsv3/2 can't provide the export is associated to the mount point, it won't cross device limits either put /usr/src in the same file system, or use another nfs host Thanks! I think for now, I'll just export /usr/src/sys so I can work on this driver. However, it's odd that I can't mount both (starting with /usr). I'm not sure if that's a limitation for NFS or NFS client services for Windows.
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
OH MY - did not know it was TROLL hunting season... SO Like I heard a rumor that FaceBook is going to release an open source operating system because we all know how secure from NSA it will be... LMAO feed the trolls. On 7/5/2013 12:14 AM, Ryan R wrote: Dear OpenBSD developers and users: > >Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Andres Perera wrote: > according to key_string_set_modifiers() in key-string.c, :bind-key -n > s-enter send-key enter thank you kind sir! --patrick > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, patrick keshishian >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott >>> wrote: Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and Shift-Return separately in tmux itself. The extended keys are also sent through to applications inside tmux if the xterm-keys option is turned on. >> >> To get the old behavior back, I should do something resembling: >> >> :bind-key -n Shift+Enter send-key Enter >> >> If so, I'm not quit getting how to specify the Shift+Return/Enter >> combination. tmux complains about "unknown key". >> >> help? :) >> >> --patrick >> >> >>> So... is there anyway I can enable the old behavior? I scanned through >>> the tmux man page prior to my initial post, didn't see anything >>> obvious. I'll go re-read again, but if there is a quick hint you can >>> offer, that would be appreciated! >>> >>> --patrick >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:28:58PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott > wrote: > > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me > > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. > > Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". > > Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and > Shift+Return: > > $ hexdump -C > RET-> > 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| > 0006 > $ hexdump -C > SHIFT+RET-> > 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| > 000c > > > Is that similar to what you were asking for? > > --patrick > > > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 > >> snapshot a couple of days ago. > >> > >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to > >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? > >> > >> --patrick
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
according to key_string_set_modifiers() in key-string.c, :bind-key -n s-enter send-key enter On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott >> wrote: >>> Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just >>> wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. >>> >>> This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the >>> xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and >>> Shift-Return separately in tmux itself. The extended keys are also sent >>> through to applications inside tmux if the xterm-keys option is turned >>> on. > > To get the old behavior back, I should do something resembling: > > :bind-key -n Shift+Enter send-key Enter > > If so, I'm not quit getting how to specify the Shift+Return/Enter > combination. tmux complains about "unknown key". > > help? :) > > --patrick > > >> So... is there anyway I can enable the old behavior? I scanned through >> the tmux man page prior to my initial post, didn't see anything >> obvious. I'll go re-read again, but if there is a quick hint you can >> offer, that would be appreciated! >> >> --patrick >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:28:58PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and Shift+Return: $ hexdump -C RET-> 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| 0006 $ hexdump -C SHIFT+RET-> 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| 000c Is that similar to what you were asking for? --patrick > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 >> snapshot a couple of days ago. >> >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? >> >> --patrick
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott > wrote: >> Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just >> wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. >> >> This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the >> xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and >> Shift-Return separately in tmux itself. The extended keys are also sent >> through to applications inside tmux if the xterm-keys option is turned >> on. To get the old behavior back, I should do something resembling: :bind-key -n Shift+Enter send-key Enter If so, I'm not quit getting how to specify the Shift+Return/Enter combination. tmux complains about "unknown key". help? :) --patrick > So... is there anyway I can enable the old behavior? I scanned through > the tmux man page prior to my initial post, didn't see anything > obvious. I'll go re-read again, but if there is a quick hint you can > offer, that would be appreciated! > > --patrick > > >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:28:58PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott >>> wrote: >>> > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me >>> > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. >>> >>> Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". >>> >>> Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and >>> Shift+Return: >>> >>> $ hexdump -C >>> RET-> >>> 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| >>> 0006 >>> $ hexdump -C >>> SHIFT+RET-> >>> 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| >>> 000c >>> >>> >>> Is that similar to what you were asking for? >>> >>> --patrick >>> >>> >>> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 >>> >> snapshot a couple of days ago. >>> >> >>> >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to >>> >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? >>> >> >>> >> --patrick
Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)
you want nested nfs mounts which nfsv3/2 can't provide the export is associated to the mount point, it won't cross device limits either put /usr/src in the same file system, or use another nfs host On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Nathan Goings wrote: > I just setup NFS, and have gotten it working with my Windows 7 machine. > Basically, I'm working on a driver and want to use a graphical IDE. > > /etc/exports: > # > /usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 > /usr/src -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 > /mnt/drive2 -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 > > (On windows) If I mount /usr, /usr/src is empty. I thought this was a > permission problem (thus, -maproot=root), then I thought it was a partition > problem (/dev/wd1f is mounted to /usr and /dev/wd1i is mounted to /usr/src). > > If I mount /usr/src alone, it works fine. Then if I mount /usr it continues > to work. However, if I mount /usr then /usr/src, it displays empty. > > Can anyone explain this? More importantly, is there a better way to achieve > this?
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just > wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. > > This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the > xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and > Shift-Return separately in tmux itself. The extended keys are also sent > through to applications inside tmux if the xterm-keys option is turned > on. So... is there anyway I can enable the old behavior? I scanned through the tmux man page prior to my initial post, didn't see anything obvious. I'll go re-read again, but if there is a quick hint you can offer, that would be appreciated! --patrick > > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:28:58PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott >> wrote: >> > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me >> > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. >> >> Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". >> >> Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and >> Shift+Return: >> >> $ hexdump -C >> RET-> >> 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| >> 0006 >> $ hexdump -C >> SHIFT+RET-> >> 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| >> 000c >> >> >> Is that similar to what you were asking for? >> >> --patrick >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 >> >> snapshot a couple of days ago. >> >> >> >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to >> >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? >> >> >> >> --patrick
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and Shift-Return separately in tmux itself. The extended keys are also sent through to applications inside tmux if the xterm-keys option is turned on. On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:28:58PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott > wrote: > > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me > > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. > > Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". > > Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and > Shift+Return: > > $ hexdump -C > RET-> > 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| > 0006 > $ hexdump -C > SHIFT+RET-> > 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| > 000c > > > Is that similar to what you were asking for? > > --patrick > > > > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 > >> snapshot a couple of days ago. > >> > >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to > >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? > >> > >> --patrick
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
Hi, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me > what it shows when you press Shift-Return. Not sure what you mean by running "cat outside tmux". Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm) shows 0a sent with Return and Shift+Return: $ hexdump -C RET-> 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |RET->.| 0006 $ hexdump -C SHIFT+RET-> 53 48 49 46 54 2b 52 45 54 2d 3e 0a |SHIFT+RET->.| 000c Is that similar to what you were asking for? --patrick > On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 >> snapshot a couple of days ago. >> >> Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to >> the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? >> >> --patrick
Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)
I just setup NFS, and have gotten it working with my Windows 7 machine. Basically, I'm working on a driver and want to use a graphical IDE. /etc/exports: # /usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 /usr/src -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 /mnt/drive2 -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 (On windows) If I mount /usr, /usr/src is empty. I thought this was a permission problem (thus, -maproot=root), then I thought it was a partition problem (/dev/wd1f is mounted to /usr and /dev/wd1i is mounted to /usr/src). If I mount /usr/src alone, it works fine. Then if I mount /usr it continues to work. However, if I mount /usr then /usr/src, it displays empty. Can anyone explain this? More importantly, is there a better way to achieve this?
Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination
What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me what it shows when you press Shift-Return. On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > Hi, > > Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 > snapshot a couple of days ago. > > Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to > the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? > > --patrick
Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:28:28AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jul 2013, Jiri B wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: > > > [...snip...] FWIW one of my servers (handles mail, etc) is a Sun Fire > > > V210 (sparc64) machine with 2x1GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and a pair of SCSI drives > > > - it runs perfectly well in a similar CRYPTO on RAID 1 configuration. > > > That said, you'd be best to set it up and measure the performance to > > > ensure it will meet your needs. > > > > I'm confused. Is it possible to have RAID1 and CRYPTO on top of that as > > boot device? It did not work for me... > > No, that will not work since the boot loader will not know how to handle the > nested volumes - the OP said: Thanks for clarifying. > > I'm planning to use 3 x 1TB drives in RAID 1. No FDE since > > "availability" involves the possibility of unattended booting; like > > after a power outage while being abroad/out of town, in which case I'd > > have to ssh in to the box and bioctl(8) the encrypted volume. > > And that will work, since you boot off RAID 1 and then bring up a CRYPTO > volume manually. Once we do stacked properly we should have RAID1C and you > would be able to boot from that... Perhaps a long shot, but would it be very wrong to assume that such a future boot loader would know how to handle *already existing* nested volumes? Like, if I prepare a RAID1C already partitioned for (or with room left for) the OS, but run the OS from a standalone disk while we wait for a boot loader that does stacking properly? (Given the amount of time to copy a terabyte or two of data, I would certainly be willing to give it a shot. No guarantees expected, of course..) Cheers, Erling
Problem with PowerEdge R420 (PERC H310 Mini and RAID5)
Hi, We have a few Dell PowerEdge R410 servers, with PERC H700 adapters and a RAID 5 setup. OpenBSD runs great on these servers. Recently, however, we got some new Dell PowerEdge R420 machines and we are experiencing problems. Those new machines came with a new RAID adapter, a PERC H310 Mini -- with this setup, OpenBSD is having problems using the disk when the disk array is configured as RAID 5. (but it works fine when the array is configured as RAID 10, more details below). As the first tests with OpenBSD 5.3-stable failed, we are trying to run OpenBSD -current. The machine's dmesg [1] seems to correctly detect the PERC controller and disk volume, as you can see after the end of this message. We have also added the bioctl command output [2] for this set up. Another test with fdisk shows it is failing to create the correct disk slices, as you can see on the output below [3]. If we set up the disk array as RAID 10, everything works fine, as you can see on dmesg [4], bioctl [5] and fdisk [6] outputs below. Another test: when we set up the disk array as RAID 5, boot with the OpenBSD installation CD, and select the (S)hell option, if we use dd, for example, to write to the disk volume, the machine freezes: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsd0c and # dd if/=dev/zero of=/dev/sd0c The same commands, using the disk array as RAID 10, work as expected without any problems. Anyone using a Dell PowerEdge R420 with the PERC H310 Mini, with RAID 5? Any ideas? Thanks in advance. --Kor [1]: DMESG [RAID-5] OpenBSD 5.3-current (RAMDISK_CD) #11: Tue Jul 2 12:37:13 MDT 2013 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD real mem = 8525905920 (8130MB) avail mem = 8294035456 (7909MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xcf42c000 (77 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "1.5.2" date 03/11/2013 bios0: Dell Inc. PowerEdge R420 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR HPET DM__ MCFG WD__ SLIC ERST HEST BERT EINJ TCPA PC__ SRAT SSDT acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2420 0 @ 1.90GHz, 2200.29 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA, CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM, PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3, CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,DCA,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT, DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 100MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec3f000, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 15, remapped to apid 1 ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec7f000, version 20, 24 pins ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 15, remapped to apid 2 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 8 (PEX3) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 10 (PEX6) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX7) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX8) acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX9) acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus 64 (PCI1) acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEXA) acpiprt12 at acpi0: bus 65 (PEXB) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel E5 Host" rev 0x07 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel E5 PCIE" rev 0x07 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 mfi0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS2008" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 2 mfi0: "PERC H310 Mini", firmware 20.12.0-0004 scsibus0 at mfi0: 16 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed naa.6b8ca3a0e70b470019672d320686e5c9 sd0: 1143552MB, 512 bytes/sector, 2341994496 sectors scsibus1 at mfi0: 256 targets ppb1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Intel E5 PCIE" rev 0x07: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 8 mfii0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS2208" rev 0x05: apic 1 int 16 mfii0: "PERC H810 Adapter", firmware 21.2.0-0007, 1024MB cache scsibus2 at mfii0: 64 targets "Intel E5 Address Map" rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 not configured "Intel E5 Error Reporting" rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 5 function 2 not configured ppb2 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "Intel C600 Virtual PCIE" rev 0x05 pci3 at ppb2 bus 9 "Intel C600 MEI" rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured "Intel C600 MEI" rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 22 function 1 not configured ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel C600 USB" rev 0x05: apic 0 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 f
tmux and Shift+Return combination
Hi, Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 snapshot a couple of days ago. Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? --patrick
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
"...to OpenBSD 5.3 when the news broke: CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vNOBBB5FgY&t=51s On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Thomas Jennings < thomas.jennings...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear OpenBSD developers and users: > > Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would > share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a > good date to do so since my reasons address national security > implications. As a group of people who take development, security, and > privacy seriously, I know you will want to know why I made the drastic > decision to abandon OpenBSD and never look back. > > I'm sure we've all heard of PRISM by now, the user-friendly name of > the United States Federal Government's massive civilian and resident > spying program otherwise known as US-984XN. PRISM is certainly bad > enough of its own accord, but it's how PRISM works, and the pattern of > behavior found in OpenBSD development, that was the tipping point for > my use of OpenBSD. > > And we all know Theo de Raadt, OpenBSD generalissimo of much infamy. > After being fired from the NetBSD team, Theo forked the code and > started OpenBSD. He's been pretty much solely responsible for > development of OpenBSD over the years, taking volunteer code as he > sees fit. He also has final say over security audits in the operating > system, something that turns out to be very important. > > I was prepping to migrate the whole of our shop, a regional ISP in the > United States of America, to OpenBSD 5.3 when the news broke: CBS News > reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that > she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues. Check > out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview. One line > in particular trashed my plans for the OpenBSD upgrade: > > > Well, I have been, as I said, pursuing an issue for a long time now > much longer > > than youve been hearing about this in the news with some compromising > of my > > computer systems in my house my personal computer systems as well as my > > work computer systems. I thought they were immune to being compromised > > because they all ran OpenBSD but I guess I was wrong. So, were > digging into > > that and just not ready to say much more right now, but I am concerned. > > Since that interview in May, I've watched story after story of direct > server access, PRISM, and NSA spying and connected some dots. For > example, consider the accusations that the FBI had been accused of > planting backdoors in OpenBSD's IPSEC in December of 2012, and that > the accusations later proved true. The two scandals broke 18 only > months apart. > > Consider that PRISM allows the United States Federal Government to > directly access the servers of virtually any company doing online > business, including tech giants like Apple, Facebook, Google, and > Microsoft. But those same tech giants deny complicity. I'm sure we all > agree that personal privacy is beyond the scope of private enterprise, > but let's assume their denials are true. Then connect more dots: > > OpenBSD has shipped on over half of all network devices, including > things like routers, switches, gateways, and servers, for the last six > years. The current estimated number of OpenBSD installations sits at > over 350 million devices, comprising an almost ubiquitous presence of > OpenBSD in networks worldwide. > > EVEN IF NO CORPORATION OFFERS THE UNITED STATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT > DIRECT ACCESS TO ITS SERVERS THROUGH PRISM, OPENBSD OFFERS THAT SAME > ACCESS THROUGH THE PRESENCE OF ITS BACKDOORS. > > There it is. Let it sink in. Words like Gestapo and Stasi and KGB come > to mind. OpenBSD is part and parcel to the United States Federal > Government's program to spy on its own citizens through bodies like > the NSA and FBI and has been since the FBI paid for backdoors in IPSEC > about a dozen years ago. > > Yesterday, I told the company that we must migrate all our services > from OpenBSD to something else because the risk to our customers' > privacy and security is simply unacceptable. Theo de Raadt may seem > like some kind of guard dog of security, but he's really just a little > bitch bought and sold by the United State Federal Government. > > The kicker is that Theo denies anything suggesting that OpenBSD is > less than perfect at security, as if he's personally offended by the > mere suggestion. He routinely attacks developers and enthusiasts for > simply asking questions. WHY SO TOUCHY, THEO? COULD IT BE BECAUSE > YOU'RE COMPLICIT IN THE BIGGEST CITIZEN SPYING PROGRAM EVER RUN IN THE > HISTORY OF THE WORLD?! > > Today, be a true patriot to the ideals of personal privacy and public > liberty: prevent and reject any and all use of OpenBSD. > > Happy 4th of July
ACPI support on HP laptop
Hi,
I am testing out OpenBSD on a second laptop I have. I just swapped in a
HD I use on my ThinkPad.
For the test, I run a stock 5.2 kernel or a 5.3 with the "network" card
patch from Miod that Sebastian compiled for me.
I have two, possibly related problems:
- the fan runs always at full speed even with loads of 0.1 or 0.2
- no battery information is returned I get:
$ apm
Battery state: unknown, 0% remaining, 0 minutes life estimate
A/C adapter state: not connected
Performance adjustment mode: manual (599 MHz)
Interesting is that the CPU is not running at full speed, which is 1600Mhz.
I suppose this is part of the problem:
$ dmesg | grep acpi
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
Riccardo
PS: this is the full dmesg
OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC) #278: Wed Aug 1 10:04:16 MDT 2012
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class)
599 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2
real mem = 536211456 (511MB)
avail mem = 516587520 (492MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 06/23/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf,
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfa1ee (31 entries)
bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version "68BDD Ver. F.14" date 06/23/2005
bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq nc6000 (DU447EA#ABZ)
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (BIOS managing devices)
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x2000
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf0840/160 (8 entries)
pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf6360/160 (8 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #5 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 599 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800,
600 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82855PM Host" rev 0x03
intelagp0 at pchb0
agp0 at intelagp0: aperture at 0xb000, size 0x1000
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82855PM AGP" rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility M10" rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: irq 10
drm0 at radeondrm0
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 10
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 10
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 10
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x03: irq 10
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x83
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ath0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 "Atheros AR5212" rev 0x01: irq 11
ath0: AR5213 5.6 phy 4.1 rf5111 1.7 rf2111 2.3, WOR0W, address
00:12:79:3d:3d:9c
cbb0 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 "O2 Micro OZ711E0 CardBus" rev 0x00: irq 10
cbb1 at pci2 dev 6 function 1 "O2 Micro OZ711E0 CardBus" rev 0x00: irq 10
"O2 Micro OZ711Mx Misc" rev 0x00 at pci2 dev 6 function 2 not configured
cbb2 at pci2 dev 6 function 3 "O2 Micro OZ711E0 CardBus" rev 0x00: irq 10
bge0 at pci2 dev 14 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5705M Alt" rev 0x03, BCM5705
A3 (0x3003): irq 11, address 00:08:02:e9:14:06
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5705 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 2
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0
cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 4 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia1 at cardslot1
cardslot2 at cbb2 slot 2 flags 0
cardbus2 at cardslot2: bus 5 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia2 at cardslot2
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x03: 24-bit
timer at 3579545Hz
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801DBM IDE" rev 0x03: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 5729MB, 11733120 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI 5/cdrom
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801DB AC97" rev 0x03: irq 11,
ICH4 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B)
ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auich0
"Intel 82801DB Modem" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel U
Re: Hang possibly related to pipex
On 7/3/2013 6:55 AM, Marko Cupać wrote:
I have a machine that has been serving as NAT gateway and VPN server
(both pptp/poptop and openvpn) since 5.0 without problems.
On 5.2 I switched poptop to npppd compiled from sources and was very
happy with it. With release of 5.3 I added second machine as CARP
failover backup.
In last 10 days machine hanged twice. I do not have hang message from
the first time, but this time i read this:
uvm_fault(0xd8f5f680, 0x0, 0, 3) -> e
kernel: page fault trap, code=0
Stopped at pipex_close_session+0xc4: movl %eax,0x6c(%exc)
ddb{3}>
Below is my dmesg:
OpenBSD 5.3 (GENERIC.MP) #58: Tue Mar 12 18:43:53 MDT 2013
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5420 @ 2.50GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2.51 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,LONG,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA,SSE4.1,LAHF,PERF
real mem = 2145267712 (2045MB)
avail mem = 2099216384 (2001MB)
...
On 7/5/2013 2:05 AM, Marko Cupać in another thread wrote:
I find it sad that it is now third day that noone responded to my
call for help with system hang, at least something like "ask on bugs
list", while threads like this get 15 responses in a matter of hours :(
Hi Marko,
My guess is that you did not included enough information for
anybody to make a reasonable assumption about the problem
you are having. You mention that you added second machine
with CARP but you did not include a pf.conf. And you did not
include any other configuration information about the
packages you mentioned.
Try again with important information.
http://openbsd.com/mail.html
Hope this helps,
Victor
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Totally agree with Marko the same for me but i do make a mistake and the BAND a lot answers even theo answered to kick my ass! by the way dont u have some uvm_alloc situation on your server? > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:05:11 +0200 > From: marko.cu...@mimar.rs > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too... > > I find it sad that it is now third day that noone responded to my > call for help with system hang, at least something like "ask on bugs > list", while threads like this get 15 responses in a matter of hours :(
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
MK2 freeweb.ozi.nu> writes: > Hi Marc, I just compared the file size on the FTP with the > pkg file (downloaded with lynx) and they match. Still get > the error with pkg_add . Be sure to either unset $PKG_PATH or use pkg_add ./, otherwise your $PKG_PATH variable will be used.
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
On 07/05/2013 12:34 PM, MK2 wrote: Jean Lucas wrote: On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 # pkg_info joe-3.7p1 Joe's Own Editor libiconv-1.14p0 character set conversion library partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 GNU gettext # uname -rsm OpenBSD 5.3 amd64 This is a nice email. A bunch of text with no real purpose. Did you define PKG_CACHE and not make the directory? Hi Jean, tried mkdir /root/pkg and prepended "env PKG_CACHE=/root/pkg" to my pkg_add(above) but same error. Also, I just tried downloading the package with lynx and doing pkg_add on the file name, but also get the error. Regards MK. PS- sorry for the ugly text Are you running lynx as root? Bad idea. But if you're not, this is why you can't access the file, or lynx is not even saving it to the root directory. Try using the mirror closest to you for starters. Use a non-privileged user + sudo for pkg_add. Issue `export PKG_CACHE=/home/foo/cache', make this directory, ensure you have permissions for it, then try adding the package again.
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
Marc Espie wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:14:01AM +1000, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 Well, your network connection obviously died near the end of the transfer. (specifically, this is the LAST file in the package) The error message is reasonably clear. This package works for about everybody else... you probably have a fucked up proxy on your http connection or something. Hi Marc, I just compared the file size on the FTP with the pkg file (downloaded with lynx) and they match. Still get the error with pkg_add .
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
Jean Lucas wrote: On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 # pkg_info joe-3.7p1 Joe's Own Editor libiconv-1.14p0 character set conversion library partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 GNU gettext # uname -rsm OpenBSD 5.3 amd64 This is a nice email. A bunch of text with no real purpose. Did you define PKG_CACHE and not make the directory? Hi Jean, tried mkdir /root/pkg and prepended "env PKG_CACHE=/root/pkg" to my pkg_add(above) but same error. Also, I just tried downloading the package with lynx and doing pkg_add on the file name, but also get the error. Regards MK. PS- sorry for the ugly text
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:14:01AM +1000, MK2 wrote: > # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ > amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz > > Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ > amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ > gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive > Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ > gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= > to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= > Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial > installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 > at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 Well, your network connection obviously died near the end of the transfer. (specifically, this is the LAST file in the package) The error message is reasonably clear. This package works for about everybody else... you probably have a fucked up proxy on your http connection or something.
Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 # pkg_info joe-3.7p1 Joe's Own Editor libiconv-1.14p0 character set conversion library partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 GNU gettext # uname -rsm OpenBSD 5.3 amd64 This is a nice email. A bunch of text with no real purpose. Did you define PKG_CACHE and not make the directory?
Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?
On Thu, 4 Jul 2013, Jiri B wrote: > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: > > [...snip...] FWIW one of my servers (handles mail, etc) is a Sun Fire > > V210 (sparc64) machine with 2x1GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and a pair of SCSI drives > > - it runs perfectly well in a similar CRYPTO on RAID 1 configuration. > > That said, you'd be best to set it up and measure the performance to > > ensure it will meet your needs. > > I'm confused. Is it possible to have RAID1 and CRYPTO on top of that as > boot device? It did not work for me... No, that will not work since the boot loader will not know how to handle the nested volumes - the OP said: > I'm planning to use 3 x 1TB drives in RAID 1. No FDE since > "availability" involves the possibility of unattended booting; like > after a power outage while being abroad/out of town, in which case I'd > have to ssh in to the box and bioctl(8) the encrypted volume. And that will work, since you boot off RAID 1 and then bring up a CRYPTO volume manually. Once we do stacked properly we should have RAID1C and you would be able to boot from that... -- "Action without study is fatal. Study without action is futile." -- Mary Ritter Beard
Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5
Hello Tony, Friday, July 5, 2013, 10:09:37 AM, you wrote: TA> It works. TA> Translation: TA> It has worked (mostly) for me. (A few times) Don't try to translate from the language you don't understand. It's in production on more than a few servers now, and has been for more than ten years. -- Best regards, Borismailto:bo...@twopoint.com
Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1
# pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for /usr/local/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo from u1Zb6iQbP0lQDC/MvuxOekHKTs470zwHLDJBzvItNjc= to FF9+wEW+LROgonlt3qJWeHT+fvcXX+ehwx+Rc1CBlfA= Fatal error: Installation of gettext-0.18.2p1 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgAdd.pm line 808 # pkg_info joe-3.7p1 Joe's Own Editor libiconv-1.14p0 character set conversion library partial-gettext-0.18.2p1 GNU gettext # uname -rsm OpenBSD 5.3 amd64
Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5
It works. Translation: It has worked (mostly) for me. (A few times) (Seems like Theo has a good quote about gcc) Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello guys, Thursday, July 4, 2013, 12:40:50 PM, Nick Holland wrote: >> If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed >> starting the 5.2? It works just fine for me. Big volumes rebuilds take a >> long while, but it's something working. NH> That's quite a leap from "RAID 5 is not ready for use" to "softraid is NH> so raw". RAID5 is one discipline of several that isn't complete. RAID0 NH> is ready for use, RAID1 is ready for use, crypto is ready for use. I've tried to use the nicer word. "Not fully functional" and "raw" are synonyms. NH> It is also quite a leap to call old RAIDframe "good". NH> It was horribly old, unmaintained code, which wasn't well loved by NH> developers when it was fresh and current. NH> Your assumptions are wrong. I am not assuming, I'm talking from experience. It works. I can install to it (after a small tweak in the script). I boot from it (after a small tweak in the code to pick up swap on raid). It continues to work if one disk fails. It repairs (automatically if you replace the disk and boot - doing much better job than md from Linux). In other words - it's fully functional with some flaws. "Fully functional" is the key expression here. Is the RAIDFrame old? Yes, but old isn't necessary bad if it's working. Did it need a replacement? Yes if no one was willing to maintain it. Did you need to kill it *before* the replacement is ready? Definitely no. Could you, please, return the RAIDframe support until the softraid is ready? -- Best regards, Borismailto:bo...@twopoint.com
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 09:58:50AM +0100, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Thomas Jennings > wrote: > > CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio > > interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone > > issues. Check out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview. > > One line in particular trashed my plans for the OpenBSD upgrade: > > > >> Well, I have been, as I said, pursuing an issue for a long time now ??? > >> much longer > >> than you???ve been hearing about this in the news ??? with some > >> compromising of my > >> computer systems in my house ??? my personal computer systems as well as my > >> work computer systems. I thought they were immune to being compromised ??? > >> because they all ran OpenBSD ??? but I guess I was wrong. So, we???re > >> digging into > >> that and just not ready to say much more right now, but I am concerned. > > FWIW the original quote can be fund here[0]. I expected to see some > other product name replaced with "OpenBSD" by the troll, but it turned > out that the whole sentence is missing from original interview. > > [0] > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/05/29/sharyl-attkisson-and-her-compromised-computers/ > seriously, who fucking cares. let this thread die -- Gilles Chehade https://www.poolp.org @poolpOrg
Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5
Hello guys, Thursday, July 4, 2013, 12:40:50 PM, Nick Holland wrote: >> If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed >> starting the 5.2? It works just fine for me. Big volumes rebuilds take a >> long while, but it's something working. NH> That's quite a leap from "RAID 5 is not ready for use" to "softraid is NH> so raw". RAID5 is one discipline of several that isn't complete. RAID0 NH> is ready for use, RAID1 is ready for use, crypto is ready for use. I've tried to use the nicer word. "Not fully functional" and "raw" are synonyms. NH> It is also quite a leap to call old RAIDframe "good". NH> It was horribly old, unmaintained code, which wasn't well loved by NH> developers when it was fresh and current. NH> Your assumptions are wrong. I am not assuming, I'm talking from experience. It works. I can install to it (after a small tweak in the script). I boot from it (after a small tweak in the code to pick up swap on raid). It continues to work if one disk fails. It repairs (automatically if you replace the disk and boot - doing much better job than md from Linux). In other words - it's fully functional with some flaws. "Fully functional" is the key expression here. Is the RAIDFrame old? Yes, but old isn't necessary bad if it's working. Did it need a replacement? Yes if no one was willing to maintain it. Did you need to kill it *before* the replacement is ready? Definitely no. Could you, please, return the RAIDframe support until the softraid is ready? -- Best regards, Borismailto:bo...@twopoint.com
Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall
I don't know why, but for some reason it just didn't occur to me that doing that would set the source IP but of course it would. Hand -> Face slap! ;) Thanks :) On Fri 05 Jul 2013 11:51:39 BST, Todd T. Fries wrote: Penned by Andy on 20130704 9:25.40, we have: | On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55 BST, Anders Berggren wrote: | >>I'd rather not have to create extra tunnels or define VPN policies with subnets which have prefixes wider than the internal LANs. | >>That leaves mangling, but I cannot see how I would do the mangling in PF to make it work without doing a redirect through the loopback etc.. Just wondering if anyone knows of a cleaner way? | > | >I think widening the flow's source is cleanest (as I mentioned in my first reply). However, I think it's possible to use a gif tunnel for the tunnel encapsulation, and only use IPsec for the endpoint encryption. It would probably work, because unlike IPsec flows, it's not "source routed". | | Ah ha!!! Of course!! Thank you :D | | Andy. The other option is to add a local route that seems pointless but actually aids in the scenario. Consider a router with an internal network IP of 192.168.0.1/24. Consider a an IPSec tunnel from 192.168.0.0/24 <-> 192.168.1.0/24. Consider adding a route 'route add 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.0.1'. Suddenly the source IP of any daemon on the OpenBSD system becomes 192.168.0.1 when attempting to connect to any system on the 192.168.1.0/24 segment. This trick only works for IPv4. For IPv6, there is no solution beyond having each software choose its source address carefully. FWIW.
Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall
Penned by Andy on 20130704 9:25.40, we have: | On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55 BST, Anders Berggren wrote: | >>I'd rather not have to create extra tunnels or define VPN policies with subnets which have prefixes wider than the internal LANs. | >>That leaves mangling, but I cannot see how I would do the mangling in PF to make it work without doing a redirect through the loopback etc.. Just wondering if anyone knows of a cleaner way? | > | >I think widening the flow's source is cleanest (as I mentioned in my first reply). However, I think it's possible to use a gif tunnel for the tunnel encapsulation, and only use IPsec for the endpoint encryption. It would probably work, because unlike IPsec flows, it's not "source routed". | | Ah ha!!! Of course!! Thank you :D | | Andy. The other option is to add a local route that seems pointless but actually aids in the scenario. Consider a router with an internal network IP of 192.168.0.1/24. Consider a an IPSec tunnel from 192.168.0.0/24 <-> 192.168.1.0/24. Consider adding a route 'route add 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.0.1'. Suddenly the source IP of any daemon on the OpenBSD system becomes 192.168.0.1 when attempting to connect to any system on the 192.168.1.0/24 segment. This trick only works for IPv4. For IPv6, there is no solution beyond having each software choose its source address carefully. FWIW. -- Todd Fries .. t...@fries.net |\ 1.636.410.0632 (voice) | Free Daemon Consulting, LLC\ 1.405.227.9094 (voice) | http://FreeDaemonConsulting.com\ 1.866.792.3418 (FAX) | PO Box 16169, Oklahoma City, OK 73113-2169 \ sip:freedae...@ekiga.net | "..in support of free software solutions." \ sip:4052279...@ekiga.net \ 37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Hi James, James Griffin wrote: Thu 4.Jul'13 at 23:56:50 -0400, Thomas Jennings Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a good date to do so since my reasons address national security implications. As a group of people who take development, security, and privacy seriously, I know you will want to know why I made the drastic decision to abandon OpenBSD and never look back. [ ... ] Then you'd also better stop using mobile phones, landlines, using search engines, email ... come to think of it, any form of electronic comminucation, and go back to living in the woods or in a cave and clubbing your wife with large peices of wood if you're so concerned about the security services. Right, more or less. Even acknowledging the mail as a troll, I had a couple of thoughts. There may be hidden doors inside RSA and derived algorithms and protocols we don't know. So I cannot exclude implicit backdoors inside OpenBSD (not explicit in the code, those would have been caught by the open source). But if you worry about that, and I think it is legitimate, what else? Our cousings FreeBSD and NetBSD use the same public libraries. As does Linux. Solaris, AIX and HP-UPX perhaps use a mix of opensource and proprietary libraries, but most certainly based on the same algorithms. Thus what would be the mysterious OS alternative, except writing your own cypher algorithm, outside the USA? Riccardo
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Please stop do not reply this is an annual event. Every year an email is sent with this same subject. It might be slightly beleivabele if it did not devovle into ad hominem attackes on Theo. Yes, Theo is an asshole. but that is irelelevant. Most geniuses are assholes. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013, at 12:44 AM, Zamri Besar wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Tito Mari Francis Escaño < > titomarifran...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I was initially thinking this is a troll, but with these quotes: > > > > > I vote for another troll... but... this year April Fool was over 3 months > ago. > > -- > Thank you. > > Zamri Besar
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Why you keep feeding troll guys ??
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Thomas Jennings wrote: > CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio > interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone > issues. Check out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview. > One line in particular trashed my plans for the OpenBSD upgrade: > >> Well, I have been, as I said, pursuing an issue for a long time now — much >> longer >> than you’ve been hearing about this in the news — with some compromising of >> my >> computer systems in my house — my personal computer systems as well as my >> work computer systems. I thought they were immune to being compromised — >> because they all ran OpenBSD — but I guess I was wrong. So, we’re digging >> into >> that and just not ready to say much more right now, but I am concerned. FWIW the original quote can be fund here[0]. I expected to see some other product name replaced with "OpenBSD" by the troll, but it turned out that the whole sentence is missing from original interview. [0] http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/05/29/sharyl-attkisson-and-her-compromised-computers/ -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John Long wrote: > On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:56:50PM -0400, Thomas Jennings wrote: > > [drug / alcohol withdrawal-induced rant elided] > > I don't know where you get the idea OpenBSD is involved. I heard a few > interviews including the one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXYITh09TA > and she clearly said she has an Apple system. Guys, what part of "THIS IS A TROLL" don't you understand? Let him die, please.
Re: Fuse on OpenBSD
2013/7/4 Henning Brauer : > * openda...@hushmail.com [2013-07-04 05:09]: >> Why do we need FUSE anyway? > > it's a firewall between filesystem code written by people who It's also a firewall for licenses. Best Martin
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:56:50PM -0400, Thomas Jennings wrote: [drug / alcohol withdrawal-induced rant elided] I don't know where you get the idea OpenBSD is involved. I heard a few interviews including the one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXYITh09TA and she clearly said she has an Apple system. She also said "for someone to come into my home" so apparently this was not only an over the network hack but somebody had physical access to her computers. No consumer computer is safe when somebody else has physical access to it. Security 101. Intel's new BIOS would seem to provide new attack vectors. See the comments to the video and elsewhere, old news. Don't use it, no problem. Atkisson also admits she doesn't know much about computers- her own words. That's an unlikely OpenBSD user profile considering she was talking about her home and company machines. Why do you believe OpenBSD is involved at all? Are you confused by the fact Apple's OSX is based on some (Free) BSD pieces? >From the interviews it's a simple case of somebody getting access to a few PCs and installing some spyware. Can you name a consumer device and common desktop OS that can't be compromised in that situation? OpenBSD is open source and you can build the whole OS and userland from source. It seems real unlikely there is compromise or people would have noticed it. So far all the screaming and accusations haven't resulted in one reference by anybody to the alleged bad code. On the other hand the system mentioned by Atkisson is a notorious high walled garden and the people who put it out have already been implicated in collusion with the anti-freedom lobby by everybody's favorite fugitive Snowden. You really need to get a clue and you really need to apologize to Theo, all the OpenBSD developers, and everybody unfortunate enough to read your rant on these lists. As usual for people slinging accusations like you, you failed to cite anything or back up your claims. Pure FUD. To paraphase Benny Hill, "everyone's entitled to be stupid, but some people abuse the privilege."
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Nice parody of something, I don't know what though. Replace OpenBSD with Cisco and Windows and it makes sense. Anyway, I've never seen where Sharyl Attkisson said she uses OpenBSD, and it's highly unlikely that she does judging from the network reporters I know. "OpenBSD has shipped on over half of all network devices, including things like routers, switches, gateways, and servers, for the last six years. The current estimated number of OpenBSD installations sits at over 350 million devices, comprising an almost ubiquitous presence of OpenBSD in networks worldwide." OpenBSD or OpenSSH? Or Cisco? On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Thomas Jennings < thomas.jennings...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear OpenBSD developers and users: > > Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would > share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a > good date to do so since my reasons address national security > implications. As a group of people who take development, security, and > privacy seriously, I know you will want to know why I made the drastic > decision to abandon OpenBSD and never look back. > > I'm sure we've all heard of PRISM by now, the user-friendly name of > the United States Federal Government's massive civilian and resident > spying program otherwise known as US-984XN. PRISM is certainly bad > enough of its own accord, but it's how PRISM works, and the pattern of > behavior found in OpenBSD development, that was the tipping point for > my use of OpenBSD. > > And we all know Theo de Raadt, OpenBSD generalissimo of much infamy. > After being fired from the NetBSD team, Theo forked the code and > started OpenBSD. He's been pretty much solely responsible for > development of OpenBSD over the years, taking volunteer code as he > sees fit. He also has final say over security audits in the operating > system, something that turns out to be very important. > > I was prepping to migrate the whole of our shop, a regional ISP in the > United States of America, to OpenBSD 5.3 when the news broke: CBS News > reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that > she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues. Check > out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview. One line > in particular trashed my plans for the OpenBSD upgrade: > > > Well, I have been, as I said, pursuing an issue for a long time now > much longer > > than youve been hearing about this in the news with some compromising > of my > > computer systems in my house my personal computer systems as well as my > > work computer systems. I thought they were immune to being compromised > > because they all ran OpenBSD but I guess I was wrong. So, were > digging into > > that and just not ready to say much more right now, but I am concerned. > > Since that interview in May, I've watched story after story of direct > server access, PRISM, and NSA spying and connected some dots. For > example, consider the accusations that the FBI had been accused of > planting backdoors in OpenBSD's IPSEC in December of 2012, and that > the accusations later proved true. The two scandals broke 18 only > months apart. > > Consider that PRISM allows the United States Federal Government to > directly access the servers of virtually any company doing online > business, including tech giants like Apple, Facebook, Google, and > Microsoft. But those same tech giants deny complicity. I'm sure we all > agree that personal privacy is beyond the scope of private enterprise, > but let's assume their denials are true. Then connect more dots: > > OpenBSD has shipped on over half of all network devices, including > things like routers, switches, gateways, and servers, for the last six > years. The current estimated number of OpenBSD installations sits at > over 350 million devices, comprising an almost ubiquitous presence of > OpenBSD in networks worldwide. > > EVEN IF NO CORPORATION OFFERS THE UNITED STATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT > DIRECT ACCESS TO ITS SERVERS THROUGH PRISM, OPENBSD OFFERS THAT SAME > ACCESS THROUGH THE PRESENCE OF ITS BACKDOORS. > > There it is. Let it sink in. Words like Gestapo and Stasi and KGB come > to mind. OpenBSD is part and parcel to the United States Federal > Government's program to spy on its own citizens through bodies like > the NSA and FBI and has been since the FBI paid for backdoors in IPSEC > about a dozen years ago. > > Yesterday, I told the company that we must migrate all our services > from OpenBSD to something else because the risk to our customers' > privacy and security is simply unacceptable. Theo de Raadt may seem > like some kind of guard dog of security, but he's really just a little > bitch bought and sold by the United State Federal Government. > > The kicker is that Theo denies anything suggesting that OpenBSD is > less than perfect at security, as if he's personally offended by the > mere suggestion. He routinely attacks developers and enthusiasts for > si
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
On 5. juli 2013 at 6:49 AM, "Luca Ferrari" wrote: > > Uhm...and I guess OpenBSD is feeling the same for abandoning you ;)! > I believe people, from time to time, should try to read source code > and track the development. It will remove this stupid messages. No it won't. Stop talking shit man. O.D.
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
I find it sad that it is now third day that noone responded to my call for help with system hang, at least something like "ask on bugs list", while threads like this get 15 responses in a matter of hours :(
Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...
Sighted assistance. It simply means that I am blind (as in I wear prosthetic eyes and can't see a thing). I can use most of my equipment here with either some screen reader access or braille. Unfortunately, that can't be said for installation and first time configuration of OpenBSD (the man AfterBoot process). Only after SSH is enabled can I do anything with the machine. It certainly would be a lot better if OpenBSD supported a general CLI screen reader right from boot up. I do know that enough of the hardware gets detected to at least support this. Unfortunately, I am not a coder, so I can't really try this without some help. Running a compiler script (configure, make and make install) are easy enough from a CLI SSH session, but unless I can run a package immediately after the OS has completely booted and given me a login prompt, I am literally operating in the blind zone. This is what I mean by sighted assistance. So right now, if I can't do it myself, whats the point? -eric On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:09 PM, openda...@hushmail.com wrote: > On 5. juli 2013 at 4:59 AM, "eric oyen" wrote: >> >> My only problem (and it seems none of the devs really understand this) >> is that I must have sighted assistance to install and initially configure >> the OS. > > What do you mean sighted assistance? > > O.D.
