Re: Sierra Wireless Aircard 320U

2017-11-11 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hi,

Try to do a little search next time you ask.
Here is a good thread [1], but you may need the help of a developer.
Make sure you will read it till the end, there is a funny situation
there too.

[1] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/34259/



Re: Partitioning for triple boot on MacBook Pro

2017-11-11 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/10/17 16:55, r...@sfm-consulting.at wrote:
> So I actually double checked and yes, I am marking an A6 partition as
> bootable/active. So where could the error be originating from? 
> 
> Thanks for any hints and help!

well, so much for the easy solution.

It sounds like you are trying to do a very difficult task in one big
step.  That's never a good plan.  The way I'd approach something like
that is:
1) basic macos install (yeah, sure...put it on 1/3rd of the disk)
2) Basic second OS install
3) Basic third OS install
4) Dual boot MacOS / [OS you are second-most familiar with on Mac
platform] (and again, leave some disk space free, so MAYBE you can go
right on to the next step without reloading completely from scratch)
5) Triple boot all three OSs
6) Start getting fancy by adding things like disk encryption.

Note the first three steps -- you MUST master the install of all three
OSs by themselves before tackling two at a time, and then three at a
time.  Dual booting is tricky for people who understand all the OSs on
hw designed to use different OSs, coming in as a novice on any of the
OSs and working on a platform that assumed you would only run their OS
on it is going to be difficult.

Be very aware that, while I won't say your task is impossible, it may
not be something anyone has done before, and code may need to be written.

Nick.



Sierra Wireless Aircard 320U

2017-11-11 Thread Damon Schultz
Hi there,

Is this unsupported? I note no entries for it on umsm(4).

This one: https://www.netgear.com/support/product/aircard_320u_(telstra).aspx

If you can cc: to me as I'm not on the list, that will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Damon

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Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 04:57:14PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> >A question to the experts here.
> >> >
> >> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> >> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> >> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> >> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> >> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> >> >
> >> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
> >> 
> >> Yes, absolutely.
> >> 
> >> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> >> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> >> boohoohoo.
> >
> >OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.
> >
> >> 
> >> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> >> need it.
> >
> >I don't need blogs. :-)
> >
> >
> >Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
> >as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
> >in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
> >do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
> >the other people working hard on it).
> 
> Terribly sad you are such a sensitive soul.

Uh, your sarcasms hurt my delicate soul. :-)

I don't usually come here to whine.  I've always kept my systems as
default as possible.  I've never written any article about OpenBSD.
Obviously it's not about me and *that's the bad news*.  Whether or not
you're right about users in general, there are more than one OS out
there with long tradition and experience in developing with the
assumption users are a bunch of irresponsible idiots.  And they count
with a stronger infrastructure than yours.  It's not clever to compete
with those monsters using their same strategy.



Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
>On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> >A question to the experts here.
>> >
>> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
>> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
>> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
>> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
>> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
>> >
>> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
>> 
>> Yes, absolutely.
>> 
>> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
>> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
>> boohoohoo.
>
>OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.
>
>> 
>> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
>> need it.
>
>I don't need blogs. :-)
>
>
>Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
>as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
>in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
>do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
>the other people working hard on it).

Terribly sad you are such a sensitive soul.



Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide (3)

2017-11-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-11-11, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --EEC7FC186A37D970D7FEF124
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>
> Le 11/11/17 à 15:25, Stuart Henderson a écrit :
>> On 2017-11-11, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> --E3282A62CBBAFE07DF2ABE41
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Hi, all...
>>>
>>> A new diff for this same page : A very small modification for a better
>>> pagination... into section "Generic Porting Hints".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, this doesn't change anything?
>>
>>
>
> if you can't see the difference, I'm sorry for you, I can't help you.

I missed tb@'s newfangled html/css :)

> I hope: Others will see it. see the attached images.

Please, don't send image attachments to the mailing list.
(I thought attachments were filtered from misc anyway :/)   




Re: macpro boot openbsd 6.2 , but ,,,

2017-11-11 Thread Tuyosi T
conclusion

the grub of both debian32 bit and fedora 32 bit can boot openbsd 6.2 amd64
boots easily .

the details is
http://openbsd-akita.blogspot.jp/2017/10/macpro-2006-runs-openbsd.html

the movies of fedora's one is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqK9LIcHiQg
but my taste is debian.


Re: Bug in rc.d/ifstated ?

2017-11-11 Thread jungle boogie

Thus said Christer Solskogen on Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:09:13 +0100

If ifstated.conf have a error this will happen:

# ifstated
-d

/etc/ifstated.conf:35: syntax error
/etc/ifstated.conf:38: syntax error
error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
unable to load config

But with the same config:
# /etc/rc.d/ifstated
start

ifstated(ok)
# echo $?
0
I would expect that it would say something like this, like other daemons do.
ifstated(failed)



Here's a false start with ifstated:

$ ls -l /etc/if*
ls: /etc/if*: No such file or directory


$ doas /etc/rc.d/ifstated -f start 




ifstated(ok)

$ pgrep ifstated

-

Here's a legitimate failure with ntp:

$ ls -l /etc/nt*
ls: /etc/nt*: No such file or directory

$ doas /etc/rc.d/ntpd -f start
ntpd(failed)





Re: Bug in rc.d/ifstated ?

2017-11-11 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 07:09:13PM +, Christer Solskogen wrote:
> If ifstated.conf have a error this will happen:
> 
> # ifstated
> -d
> 
> /etc/ifstated.conf:35: syntax error
> /etc/ifstated.conf:38: syntax error
> error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
> error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
> unable to load config
> 
> But with the same config:
> # /etc/rc.d/ifstated
> start
> 
> ifstated(ok)
> # echo $?
> 0
> I would expect that it would say something like this, like other daemons do.
> ifstated(failed)

Yes, that's an known issue with several privsep daemons in OpenBSD...
Maybe we could add an rc_pre function like this:

# child will not return a config parsing error to the parent
rc_pre() {
${daemon} -n ${daemon_flags}
}

-- 
Antoine



Bug in rc.d/ifstated ?

2017-11-11 Thread Christer Solskogen
If ifstated.conf have a error this will happen:

# ifstated
-d

/etc/ifstated.conf:35: syntax error
/etc/ifstated.conf:38: syntax error
error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
error: state 'fw_slave' not declared
unable to load config

But with the same config:
# /etc/rc.d/ifstated
start

ifstated(ok)
# echo $?
0
I would expect that it would say something like this, like other daemons do.
ifstated(failed)


Re: em0: Hardware Initialization Failed

2017-11-11 Thread Reese Johnson
Hello,

I can reproduce this on my VPS. I was never able to get em0 back
working. I was wondering if it was something related to KVM. I had been
using em0 for 3+ years. I was thinking it was just me but watching the
list. I ended up switching to vio0 and got it back working. Still trying
to figure out what went wrong.

Thanks!

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 04:03:09PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> This is current/amd64 on a Dell Latitude E5570 (dmesg below).
> When booting without the ethernet cable plugged in,
> the boot sequence finishes with the following message:
> 
>   em0: Hardware Initialization Failed
>   em0: Unable to initialize the hardware
> 
> So, the cable is not it now:
> 
>   $ ifconfig em0
>   em0: flags=8803 mtu 1500
>   lladdr 28:f1:0e:26:94:75
>   index 2 priority 0 llprio 3
>   media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
>   status: no carrier
> 
> The I plug the cable in:
> 
>   $ ifconfig em0
>   em0: flags=8803 mtu 1500
>   lladdr 28:f1:0e:26:94:75
>   index 2 priority 0 llprio 3
>   media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT full-duplex)
>   status: active
> 
> But it won't get a DHCP lease:
> 
>   $ doas dhclient em0
>   doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
>   em0: no link ... sleeping
> 
>   $ doas dhclient em0
>   doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
>   em0: no link .. sleeping
> 
>   $ doas dhclient em0
>   doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
>   em0: no link ... sleeping
> 
> When I boot with the cable plugged in, everything works as expected,
> like it always has. But now it seems that the ethernet cable _must_
> be plugged in at boot, otherwise em0 will just not work.
> 
> Can somebody with em(4) reproduce?
> How can I debug this?
> 
>   Jan
> 
> 
> OpenBSD 6.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Nov 11 11:52:13 CET 2017
> h...@dell.stare.cz:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
> real mem = 16810340352 (16031MB)
> avail mem = 16294019072 (15539MB)
> mpath0 at root
> scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
> mainbus0 at root
> bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.8 @ 0xeac10 (107 entries)
> bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "1.5.0" date 04/22/2016
> bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E5570
> acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
> acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
> acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT FIDT MCFG HPET SSDT LPIT SSDT SSDT SSDT 
> DBGP DBG2 SSDT UEFI SSDT SSDT SLIC ASF!
> acpi0: wakeup devices PEGP(S4) PEG0(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG1(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG2(S4) 
> PXSX(S4) RP09(S4) PXSX(S4) RP10(S4) PXSX(S4) RP11(S4) PXSX(S4) RP12(S4) 
> PXSX(S4) RP13(S4) [...]
> acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
> acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
> cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
> cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2295.52 MHz
> cpu0: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
> cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
> mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
> cpu0: apic clock running at 24MHz
> cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
> cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
> cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
> cpu1: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
> cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
> cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
> cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
> cpu2: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
> cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
> cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
> cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
> cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
> cpu3: 
> FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PB

Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide (3)

2017-11-11 Thread Theo Buehler
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 02:25:34PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2017-11-11, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --E3282A62CBBAFE07DF2ABE41
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Hi, all...
> >
> > A new diff for this same page : A very small modification for a better
> > pagination... into section "Generic Porting Hints".
> >
> >
> 
> Hmm, this doesn't change anything?

I added "whitespace: pre;" to the  tags in openbsd.css, since in at
least 99% of the cases that's what we want. Looks like I havent found
all of the  tags that need fixing...



Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide (3)

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"

Le 11/11/17 à 15:25, Stuart Henderson a écrit :
> On 2017-11-11, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --E3282A62CBBAFE07DF2ABE41
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Hi, all...
>>
>> A new diff for this same page : A very small modification for a better
>> pagination... into section "Generic Porting Hints".
>>
>>
>
> Hmm, this doesn't change anything?
>
>

if you can't see the difference, I'm sorry for you, I can't help you.
I hope: Others will see it. see the attached images.

-- 
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Stephane HUC as PengouinBSD or CIOTBSD
b...@stephane-huc.net


Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide 2

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"
(...)
> Also, it would be better to send diffs inline, not as mime.
> 
> 
What the hell is that again?!
It's never good, it always need more... :(

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b...@stephane-huc.net



Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 03:40:42PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > >A question to the experts here.
> > >
> > >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> > >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> > >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> > >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> > >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> > >
> > >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
> > 
> > Yes, absolutely.
> > 
> > Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> > come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> > boohoohoo.
> 
> OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.

I don't think he did.  He answered your question.

> > You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> > need it.
> 
> I don't need blogs. :-)
> 
> 
> Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
> as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
> in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
> do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
> the other people working hard on it).

I fail to see the insult, honestly, unless it's the insinuation that you
might be a blog writer (which you say you aren't, so that should be ok).


-- 
Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri,
National Bioinformatics Infrastructure Sweden (NBIS),
Uppsala University, Sweden.



em0: Hardware Initialization Failed

2017-11-11 Thread Jan Stary
This is current/amd64 on a Dell Latitude E5570 (dmesg below).
When booting without the ethernet cable plugged in,
the boot sequence finishes with the following message:

em0: Hardware Initialization Failed
em0: Unable to initialize the hardware

So, the cable is not it now:

$ ifconfig em0
em0: flags=8803 mtu 1500
lladdr 28:f1:0e:26:94:75
index 2 priority 0 llprio 3
media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
status: no carrier

The I plug the cable in:

$ ifconfig em0
em0: flags=8803 mtu 1500
lladdr 28:f1:0e:26:94:75
index 2 priority 0 llprio 3
media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT full-duplex)
status: active

But it won't get a DHCP lease:

$ doas dhclient em0
doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
em0: no link ... sleeping

$ doas dhclient em0
doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
em0: no link .. sleeping

$ doas dhclient em0
doas (h...@dell.stare.cz) password:
em0: no link ... sleeping

When I boot with the cable plugged in, everything works as expected,
like it always has. But now it seems that the ethernet cable _must_
be plugged in at boot, otherwise em0 will just not work.

Can somebody with em(4) reproduce?
How can I debug this?

Jan


OpenBSD 6.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Nov 11 11:52:13 CET 2017
h...@dell.stare.cz:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 16810340352 (16031MB)
avail mem = 16294019072 (15539MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.8 @ 0xeac10 (107 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "1.5.0" date 04/22/2016
bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E5570
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT FIDT MCFG HPET SSDT LPIT SSDT SSDT SSDT DBGP 
DBG2 SSDT UEFI SSDT SSDT SLIC ASF!
acpi0: wakeup devices PEGP(S4) PEG0(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG1(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG2(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP09(S4) PXSX(S4) RP10(S4) PXSX(S4) RP11(S4) PXSX(S4) RP12(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP13(S4) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2295.52 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 24MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.2.4.1.1.1, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6440HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2294.67 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,3DNOWP,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SGX,BMI1,HLE,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,ERMS,INVPCID,RTM,MPX,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,PT,SENSOR,ARAT
cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 120 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf000, bus 0-127
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2399 Hz
acpiprt0 at a

Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:58:59AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >A question to the experts here.
> >
> >My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
> >least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
> >disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
> >slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
> >interface to use ipv6 at install time.
> >
> >Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?
> 
> Yes, absolutely.
> 
> Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
> come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
> boohoohoo.

OK.  You assume I'm an asshole.

> 
> You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
> need it.

I don't need blogs. :-)


Look, I'm very happy with OpenBSD (*honestly*) in the technical as well
as in the human aspect.  The *only one* negative point I found till now
in this project is your attitude.  The next time you want to insult me
do it in private, in that way you won't harm the project (taking in care
the other people working hard on it).



Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide 2

2017-11-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-11-10, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156)
> --f2empdGgURcEx4RbHfuXNPvelBK6QVWlt
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>  protected-headers="v1"
> From: "Stephane HUC \"PengouinBSD\"" 
> Reply-To: b...@stephane-huc.net
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Message-ID: <99a527cf-3e64-e699-cc42-f2e306010...@stephane-huc.net>
> Subject: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide 2
>
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> --FEA13BD19437B5EAC8A151F1
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I attach a patch for the FAQ "Ports Guide" ;)
>
>
>
> --=20
> ~ " Fully Basic System Distinguish Life! " ~ " Libre as a BSD "   +=3D<<<
> 
>Stephane HUC as PengouinBSD or CIOTBSD
>b...@stephane-huc.net
>
> --FEA13BD19437B5EAC8A151F1
> Content-Type: text/x-patch;
>  name="faq_ports_guide.patch"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
>  filename="faq_ports_guide.patch"
>
> Index: faq/ports/guide.html
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/ports/guide.html,v
> retrieving revision 1.75
> diff -u -p -r1.75 guide.html
> --- faq/ports/guide.html  10 Nov 2017 15:37:41 -  1.75
> +++ faq/ports/guide.html  10 Nov 2017 17:43:02 -
> @@ -1206,10 +1206,10 @@ the following for you (ask on
>  upstreamed patches).
> Check the output of cvs -n up -d.
>  New files should be marked A, deleted files should be marked
> -D and changed files should be maked M.
> +D and changed files should be marked M.

This makes sense,

>  Look for files marked ? - did you mean to cvs add them=
> ?
> -If all is well, commit the new/deleted/changed files using <=
> tt>cvs
> -commit.
> +If all is well, commit the new/deleted/changed files using=20
> +cvs commit.=20

Whitespace/formatting changes that don't affect anything in the pages
are just extra noise in diffs.

Also, it would be better to send diffs inline, not as mime.




Re: CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide (3)

2017-11-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-11-11, Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"  wrote:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --E3282A62CBBAFE07DF2ABE41
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>
> Hi, all...
>
> A new diff for this same page : A very small modification for a better
> pagination... into section "Generic Porting Hints".
>
>

Hmm, this doesn't change anything?




CVS Diff : FAQ Ports Guide (3)

2017-11-11 Thread Stephane HUC "PengouinBSD"
Hi, all...

A new diff for this same page : A very small modification for a better
pagination... into section "Generic Porting Hints".


-- 
~ " Fully Basic System Distinguish Life! " ~ " Libre as a BSD " +=<<<

Stephane HUC as PengouinBSD or CIOTBSD
b...@stephane-huc.net

Index: faq/ports/guide.html
===
RCS file: /cvs/www/faq/ports/guide.html,v
retrieving revision 1.76
diff -u -p -r1.76 guide.html
--- faq/ports/guide.html	10 Nov 2017 21:13:12 -	1.76
+++ faq/ports/guide.html	11 Nov 2017 13:01:54 -
@@ -1487,8 +1487,9 @@ that prevent all kinds of nastiness.
 If some broken system needs you to write the prototype, don't impose on all
 other systems.
 Roll-your-own prototypes will break because they may use types that are
-equivalent on your system, but are not portable to other systems (unsigned
-long instead of size_t), or get some const status wrong.
+equivalent on your system, but are not portable to other systems 
+(unsigned long instead of size_t), or get some 
+const status wrong.
 Also, some compilers, such as OpenBSD's own gcc, are able to do a better job
 with some very frequent functions such as strlen if you include the
 right header file.


Re: Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Theo de Raadt
>A question to the experts here.
>
>My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
>least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
>disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
>slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
>interface to use ipv6 at install time.
>
>Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?

Yes, absolutely.

Otherwise one day you will configure up v6 on an interface and
come whining about how your custom configuration isn't do inet6
boohoohoo.

You need it.  And don't go writing some balony blog saying you don't
need it.



Do I need slaacd(8) up and running?

2017-11-11 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
A question to the experts here.

My home router (a crappy one provided by my ISP) has ipv6 disabled, at
least it's what its guied configuration tells me. :-)  And I have ipv6
disabled in all my LAN machines.  The laptop I use with OpenBSD has
slaacd(8) up and running by default, even when I didn't configure any
interface to use ipv6 at install time.

Under the above conditions, do I still need slaacd running?