Re: Localnet Hacking
I would love some used books but don't have 1000€. I will have $750 around beginning of June if you want to send me a Paypal invoice to my Apple email: openbsd.g...@icloud.com I was going to buy my second laptop but books are probably better for me at this point in time. Your other message was crammed full of info, I don't know most of what you said but I'll try to spend time in the mentioned manpages this week. Lux of the Agony 720077 Bishkek Altyn Kazyk 31A KYRGYZSTAN l...@openbsdgirl.com Original Message On 5/11/24 12:45, Peter J. Philipp wrote: > On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 02:52:32AM +, Lucretia wrote: > > Book recommendations are most welcome! > > > > Lux of the Agony > > 720077 Bishkek > > Altyn Kazyk 31A > > KYRGYZSTAN > > l...@openbsdgirl.com > > If you want some used books, I'm moving across the Atlantic soon and I can't > take my books along. In total the new value of them was 8000 odd EUR. If > I send three books to kyrgystan and it's under 2 kg, I checked with DHL > it will cost under 20 EUR. If I send all these books out in batches of three > it will cost 1000 odd EUR, which I don't have. So I ask you pay shipping if > you want any of these. They are all dear to me, however I tried donating > them > to local clubs, libraries and noone wants them, and I can't take them along. > > Even if you don't like what you're getting (or you don't like used books.. I > know I don't) you can pass them on to someone who doesn't mind. However you > can also just request three books, in order to look into them and if you like > them you can repurchase them. I know in some locations it's very hard to get > a peek into a book. > > So willing to end out 53-54 batches of 3 books to people who want some of > these. Very little of these I got used but they are all mostly 5 years+ > old. Some were purchased in Canada and most were purchased in Germany while > I had work. > > Here is the booklist: https://mainrechner.de/Buecher2024/ > > Contact me privately if you would like a batch with what you like. I'll > make note on that webpage of what's given away. Offer ends July 1st of this > year. > > Best Regards, > -pjp > > -- > ** all info about me: lynx https://callpeter.tel, dig loc delphinusdns.org > ** > >
Localnet Hacking
I have a laptop and am looking to purchase a second computer. Neither of them will be connected to The Internet, but will be networked together. My goal is to study networking, starting with some of the most basic commands and routines. This will be purely for educational purposes. I may build upon the network later, perhaps with unconventional devices, but for now I want to focus just on having two Amd64 machines communicating with one another. What are some basic networking commands from the base installation or from ports that would be good for a novice to learn more in-depth? I have no plans to connect this system to The Internet now or in the future, so keep that in mind when suggesting. Book recommendations are most welcome! Lux of the Agony 720077 Bishkek Altyn Kazyk 31A KYRGYZSTAN l...@openbsdgirl.com
Re: __dead
Sorry, I got very confused trying to read this file. C is a lot different than Java what we learned, and the source I've read here is a lot different from the few examples of C I've read in books. I must have overlooked this comment but I did see the define for __dead On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 22:16, Crystal Kolipe <[kolip...@exoticsilicon.com](mailto:On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 22:16, Crystal Kolipe < wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 04:01:12PM +, Lucretia wrote: >> I read the whole file top to bottom, slowly and with care, and saw no >> comments about __dead. Unless by chance they've been added since >> 7.4 release. > > Immediately above where __dead and __pure are defined is the following > comment: > > /* > * GCC1 and some versions of GCC2 declare dead (non-returning) and > * pure (no side effects) functions using "volatile" and "const"; > * unfortunately, these then cause warnings under "-ansi -pedantic". > * GCC >= 2.5 uses the __attribute__((attrs)) style. All of these > * work for GNU C++ (modulo a slight glitch in the C++ grammar in > * the distribution version of 2.5.5). > */ > > This, with a few updates and changes, has been in the source code > for > 30 years. > > For reference, the same comment in the same file in the NetBSD tree > is a bit more verbose and gives some examples of what pure and const > are used for.
Re: __dead
I didn't know there was a style man page. Thanks! I will make that my reading next. On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 22:07, Maja Reberc <[m...@chloris.si](mailto:On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 22:07, Maja Reberc < wrote: > There's also something about it in style(9) man page. > https://man.openbsd.org/style > > On Tue, 07 Nov 2023 16:01:12 + > Lucretia wrote: > >> I read the whole file top to bottom, slowly and with care, and saw no >> comments about __dead. Unless by chance they've been added since 7.4 >> release.
Re: __dead
I read the whole file top to bottom, slowly and with care, and saw no comments about __dead. Unless by chance they've been added since 7.4 release. On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 21:15, Crystal Kolipe <[kolip...@exoticsilicon.com](mailto:On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 21:15, Crystal Kolipe < wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 03:08:18PM +, Lucretia wrote: >> I've seen __dead a few places in the source code, does this mean it isn't >> functional anymore, or maybe just deprecated? > > Read the comments about it in /usr/src/sys/sys/cdefs.h.
__dead
I've seen __dead a few places in the source code, does this mean it isn't functional anymore, or maybe just deprecated?
Re: Chinese Support
I saw the Chinese language directory in ports, but I haven't played with it. My Chinese is _very_ elementary. As a poet though, I have interest in language in general, some more than others. I don't know if the built-in crypto disallows OpenBSD from being downloaded from within China. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 16:06, Daniele B. <[my2...@has.im](mailto:On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 16:06, Daniele B. < wrote: > I do not speak for anyone else other than myself, by these notes and > observations. > > Some OpenBSD developers are actively working from a while on supporting the > Chinese language at system level. > Like many comunities, some people are chinese, some have chinese relatives > and/or friends, some use Taobao and AliExpress. > OpenBSD, I think, doesn't want to have particular ties for or against a > nation (however, being a north american project > you can imagine what is sentiment popping up around and outside the project). > > Let me eventually know about inconistencies (if you are a ChapGPT observer: > TERMINATE) > > -- Daniele Bonini > > Oct 29, 2023 09:52:34 Lucretia : > >> I remember reading somewhere in the project statement that OpenBSD aims to >> support as many platforms as possible. But it seems there is anti-Chinese >> sentiment concerning hardware. I don't know much about import/export laws >> and such, like Peter said in his thread about RISC-V, is tech import bans >> really a thing in the world right now? >> >> Do developers actively work on such hardware regardless; perhaps from >> neutral countries. >> >> Are there any Chinese developers actively working on the project? >> >> I'm kind of politically stupid, but doesn't closing off tech trade hinder >> peace processes between nations? >> >> Yes, I imagine there are backdoors. >> But we have them too. >> Isn't it kind of like saying, >> "trust us to look through >> your panty drawer; >> not them." >> >> -- >> "Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will >> hear your prayer." >> Padre Pio
Chinese Support
I remember reading somewhere in the project statement that OpenBSD aims to support as many platforms as possible. But it seems there is anti-Chinese sentiment concerning hardware. I don't know much about import/export laws and such, like Peter said in his thread about RISC-V, is tech import bans really a thing in the world right now? Do developers actively work on such hardware regardless; perhaps from neutral countries. Are there any Chinese developers actively working on the project? I'm kind of politically stupid, but doesn't closing off tech trade hinder peace processes between nations? Yes, I imagine there are backdoors. But we have them too. Isn't it kind of like saying, "trust us to look through your panty drawer; not them." -- "Pray, hope, and don't worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer." Padre Pio
Re: iPhone Charging
I'll take the risk of EMF if by this tool I can help promote peace, mercy, and justice. Unfortunately in an era of strict censorship, those aims are hard to achieve with digital technology. But as yet it hasn't stopped me from trying. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:18, Maja Reberc <[m...@chloris.si](mailto:On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:18, Maja Reberc < wrote: > I saw the Qi standard is a wireless charging standard. > > I'll suggest everyone using wireless technology to educate themselves > on dangers of electropollution (you might be more successful by > searching EMF). > > Inductive charging is bound to emit relatively strong alternating > magnetic fields. Your phone and WiFi routers, on the other hand, will > emit quite strong radiofrequency radiation. If you're close to any of > these things (the very ugliest of extremes being placing a phone > against your ear), it's not doing you any health favours. > > If you have a friend with an EMF meter, feel free to call them over for > a visit and let them measure it. No need to believe blindly. > > To be crystal clear on this, I am not telling you what to do or what to > believe in. I just want to share the information that no one tells you > about, because or society is money-first: consumption of technology > precedes health. Do what you will with it. > > If anyone wants to know more, but is reluctant to buy an EMF course, > you may also contact me privately and I'll tell you what I know. > > Regards, > -- Maja > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:26:39 + > Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I recommend looking into a power bank that leverages Qi >> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(standard)). I have one that also >> has a mini solar panel, you never know when you might need backup. >> >> Cheers, >> Katie
Proton Mail Bridge
Someone reached out to me this morning asking if I use Proton Mail from within my OpenBSD system, but I told them I'm just using it on my iPhone. but I took a look, and their bridge application is open source. https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge I downloaded and added the necessary packages: gmake, gcc, go; but it died because there's no setup files for OpenBSD. Proton Mail Bridge is an application that opens IMAP and SMTP ports on the local machine and acts as an intermediary between your mail client and the Proton servers. I'd love to get this working. Has anyone played with it? -- "Love endures everything, love is stronger than death, love fears nothing." Maria Faustina Kowalska
a haiku
Regression testing, finding failures in software; the guts and glory. -- "Peace begins with a smile." Mother Teresa
Re: iPhone Charging
Chinese tech is great, Katherine! But I never used much of it except for a little Huawei 4G modem that my roommate gave me. I also love American tech. My favorite laptop is an HP. And of course I own an iPhone. But for all the blessings of technology, it often gets misused and abused. I don't have much to keep private; I pour out my heart and soul into poetry. But I'm still passionate about the right to privacy. Just like I was and still am passionate about freedom of speech and expression. I've been forcibly committed for praying the rosary on the sidewalk, and then in the mental ward injected and detained for praying the rosary in the commons area. I've also been banned by Facebook and Instagram for speaking out against war. I think there's something wrong with a system that silences people for trying to correct social/political bugs. On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 22:26, Katherine Mcmillan <[kmcmi...@uottawa.ca](mailto:On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 22:26, Katherine Mcmillan < wrote: > Hi all, > > I recommend looking into a power bank that leverages Qi > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(standard)). I have one that also has a > mini solar panel, you never know when you might need backup. > > Cheers, > Katie > > --- > > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org on behalf of Lucretia > > Sent: 28 October 2023 04:52 > To: David ; misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: iPhone Charging > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > >> It doesn't even need to be plugged in. >> There have been instances where the proximity of a mobile phone to a >> computer has been sufficient to access ... > > I don't have much to hide, but I love learning about security. We learned > very little about practical security during my four years as an infosec > major, it was mostly the bureacratic paperwork type stuff. > > I'm interested in learning, especially as relates to OpenBSD in particular, > if you have and not-too-technical resources for me. > > I try to do a decent job of locking things down, but I'm far from paranoid > about it. I've had my phone hacked by malicious people in the past. I was > target because I had a high profile social media presence during the days of > Google+ being a thing.
Re: iPhone Charging
> It doesn't even need to be plugged in. > There have been instances where the proximity of a mobile phone to a > computer has been sufficient to access ... I don't have much to hide, but I love learning about security. We learned very little about practical security during my four years as an infosec major, it was mostly the bureacratic paperwork type stuff. I'm interested in learning, especially as relates to OpenBSD in particular, if you have and not-too-technical resources for me. I try to do a decent job of locking things down, but I'm far from paranoid about it. I've had my phone hacked by malicious people in the past. I was target because I had a high profile social media presence during the days of Google+ being a thing.
Re: iPhone Charging
So there's no way an iPhone plugged into USB could be used as a hacking tool? I would think that the possibility exists. I'd like to understand more the why if anyone has time to explain. It doesn't just charge, it connects to the system as a couple of devices in my dmesg: uaudio0, ugen1. Is it possible it could be manipulated to act as a USB keyboard or some other kind of potentially dangerous USB input? I know the risk would be very low, but is it possible? On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:46, Peter J. Philipp <[p...@delphinusdns.org](mailto:On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:46, Peter J. Philipp < wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 06:33:59AM +, Lucretia wrote: >> From a security perspective, how dangerous is it to plug in my iPhone into >> the USB port on my laptop? >> >> I only have one charging cable, so I use my laptop to charge it, not having >> the correct wall adapter. I've skimmed material about Vault 7 and know The >> CIA actively develops tools which compromise Apple iPhones, and probably >> some of those tools get leaked. >> >> Can an iPhone plugged into the USB port be a potential security risk? I >> assume so, but I haven't gotten around to buying a wall adapter. Not that I >> have much which would interest hackers on my laptops, mostly just lists of >> prayers. > > No it's perfectly safe. Go on. Do know that you get only a certain amount > of amps though, a dedicated charger is probably a bit better. > > Best Regards, > -peter > > -- > Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
iPhone Charging
>From a security perspective, how dangerous is it to plug in my iPhone into the >USB port on my laptop? I only have one charging cable, so I use my laptop to charge it, not having the correct wall adapter. I've skimmed material about Vault 7 and know The CIA actively develops tools which compromise Apple iPhones, and probably some of those tools get leaked. Can an iPhone plugged into the USB port be a potential security risk? I assume so, but I haven't gotten around to buying a wall adapter. Not that I have much which would interest hackers on my laptops, mostly just lists of prayers.
Fuzzing
I'm running 7.4 and looking at "afl," as per a suggestion. It says it can take a week to a month to run. I don't know gdb like at all, but if anyone wants to suggest a program to fuzz, be my guest. Networked programs might be to difficult to set up for a first-time run. -- Inspiration is the spark, love is the flame.
Re: RISC-V questions
It seems the Pioneer and Sifive are desktop boards from what it looks like. The Lichee Pi looks cool too. I can't find Oasis from the link. I assume the Pioneer/Sifive need a CPU while the Lichee Pi is more like R-Pi? Duo looks fun too, you can build security cams like Big Brother. On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:54, Peter J. Philipp <[p...@delphinusdns.org](mailto:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:54, Peter J. Philipp < wrote: > Hi Lucretia, > > The mentioned boards are here: > > Pioneer and Oasis should be found at: https://milkv.io/ > > Lichee Pi should be found at: > > https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardware/en/lichee/th1520/lpi4a/1_intro.html > > and the mentioned Sifive/Intel P550 was here: > > https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-pro-p550 > > Best Regards, > -peter > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:46:24AM +, Lucretia wrote: >> I've only used R-Pi and intel/AMD, what kind of setup are the Risc-V you are >> looking at? On Wikipedia it says there are embedded, desktop, and servers >> that use it. I can't say I'd be in for joining with a one for me, one for a >> developer but I might be interested if I knew more. Shipping to Kyrgyzstan >> might not be pretty either. >> >> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:30, Peter J. Philipp >> <[p...@delphinusdns.org](mailto:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:30, Peter J. >> Philipp < wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have very little insight other than google news what it means that the >> > flagship of risc-v, a company called sifive, had a lot of layoffs. I have >> > heard scarecrow stories of the US Chip Act or something that the US is >> > moving >> > anti-riscv. >> > >> > I have three riscv computers right now, all of them come out of China and >> > one of them uses sifive cpu's, so it's half american. I had planned to >> > buy more american risc-v but the politics around chips and riscv aren't >> > particularily positive. >> > >> > I can probably forget buying a Sifive/Intel P550 now. It was in competition >> > with a Lichee Pi or a Milk-V Oasis-type board. And now the choice from >> > three >> > became two. I want this as my workstation. I wrote about this before and it >> > was suggested to me that I get a Milk-V Pioneer but I can't afford the >> > electric bill for that, I figure. >> > >> > So, I have to ask does anyone have interesting insights as to perhaps US or >> > European riscv efforts? I would buy if affordable and competive with what >> > Chinese manufacturers are offering. I do believe risc-v with its openness >> > is my favourite architecture so far. Also, I told my close ones, that I >> > won't be buying for just myself but also for someone at OpenBSD (so twice) >> > as riscv is still bleeding edge somewhat especially on the desktop. >> > >> > I was very happy with what was announced with the Oasis board. The price is >> > right ($120) to perhaps get two boards to OpenBSD here, given that someone >> > at OpenBSD wants to give it a turn to do development on it, and they might >> > be able to do it with two+ people. I have been looking around others who in >> > the past wanted to donate and we could possibly get an even larger donation >> > together, given, only if there is interest in the OpenBSD developer >> > community. >> > >> > That was a few weeks ago before Oasis was announced for the Lichee Pi, but >> > I >> > think the Oasis to me is a lot more interesting than a Lichee Pi and may be >> > cheaper in the end. One particular nice thing about it is my interpretation >> > that it has non-soldered on RAM. >> > >> > Let me know if you have some answers and if potentially anyone is >> > available to >> > receive Oasis-type boards perhaps after Christmas, I'll be following up >> > with >> > a purchase in March 2024 or so. By then there might be even sweeter deals >> > considering how fast this all moves, we should see then. >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > -peter >> > >> > -- >> > Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with >> > QNX. > > -- > Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
Re: RISC-V questions
I've only used R-Pi and intel/AMD, what kind of setup are the Risc-V you are looking at? On Wikipedia it says there are embedded, desktop, and servers that use it. I can't say I'd be in for joining with a one for me, one for a developer but I might be interested if I knew more. Shipping to Kyrgyzstan might not be pretty either. On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:30, Peter J. Philipp <[p...@delphinusdns.org](mailto:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 17:30, Peter J. Philipp < wrote: > Hi, > > I have very little insight other than google news what it means that the > flagship of risc-v, a company called sifive, had a lot of layoffs. I have > heard scarecrow stories of the US Chip Act or something that the US is moving > anti-riscv. > > I have three riscv computers right now, all of them come out of China and > one of them uses sifive cpu's, so it's half american. I had planned to > buy more american risc-v but the politics around chips and riscv aren't > particularily positive. > > I can probably forget buying a Sifive/Intel P550 now. It was in competition > with a Lichee Pi or a Milk-V Oasis-type board. And now the choice from three > became two. I want this as my workstation. I wrote about this before and it > was suggested to me that I get a Milk-V Pioneer but I can't afford the > electric bill for that, I figure. > > So, I have to ask does anyone have interesting insights as to perhaps US or > European riscv efforts? I would buy if affordable and competive with what > Chinese manufacturers are offering. I do believe risc-v with its openness > is my favourite architecture so far. Also, I told my close ones, that I > won't be buying for just myself but also for someone at OpenBSD (so twice) > as riscv is still bleeding edge somewhat especially on the desktop. > > I was very happy with what was announced with the Oasis board. The price is > right ($120) to perhaps get two boards to OpenBSD here, given that someone > at OpenBSD wants to give it a turn to do development on it, and they might > be able to do it with two+ people. I have been looking around others who in > the past wanted to donate and we could possibly get an even larger donation > together, given, only if there is interest in the OpenBSD developer community. > > That was a few weeks ago before Oasis was announced for the Lichee Pi, but I > think the Oasis to me is a lot more interesting than a Lichee Pi and may be > cheaper in the end. One particular nice thing about it is my interpretation > that it has non-soldered on RAM. > > Let me know if you have some answers and if potentially anyone is available to > receive Oasis-type boards perhaps after Christmas, I'll be following up with > a purchase in March 2024 or so. By then there might be even sweeter deals > considering how fast this all moves, we should see then. > > Best Regards, > -peter > > -- > Over thirty years experience on Unix-like Operating Systems starting with QNX.
Re: Donations
I have limited funds available, living on Social Security, but I have a lot of free time available and could certainly solicit hardware donations from corporations and universities if I knew better the required specifications of what the project is looking for and knew where they ought to be sent to. I know back in America that universities dump a lot of hardware, but I don't know what is useful to the project and if shipping would make it prohibitive. As an artist I spent many hours via email connecting with galleries and buyers, so I kind of know my way around solicitation. Artists make very good beggars. On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 04:58, deich...@placebonol.com <[deich...@placebonol.com](mailto:On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 04:58, deich...@placebonol.com < wrote: > also, consider https://www.openbsd.org/want.html as another form of donation > > 73 > diana
Firefox downloads
I use gimp to make digital collages and for this I do a lot of downloading and uploading. In OpenBSD firefox doesn't allow access to the filesystem except to the Downloads directory. How can I change this behavior?
my first patch
I made my first patch! To devel/dwz, I'm not sure how to submit it, or if it's even useful to anyone. Basically I just changed all instances of strcpy and sprintf to use strlcpy and snprintf, because the compiler said to. This is like crack cocaine to me. a bit off-topic, but: gethsemane$ faad -w Tori_Amos/The_Beekeeper/03* | aucat -i - -h wav makes Tori sound like Minnie Mouse. How can I fix this? -- Google doesn't need to know every time I fart.
