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Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:50:27 +0200
From: Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Sparc Urani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Theo gave an interview to Forbes Mag. about Linux
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Hello list,
i have to comment this discussion.
1). The world is not black nor white. The world is colorful!
2). I'm a windows hater and a unix lover
Sparc Urani wrote:
based on my experience, Linux is not a good start for the beginners.
for tough systems/network admins its bad. learning unix shall always
start with OpenBSD as they can see the difference when try using Linux
as their alternative OS.
3). Linux -- Linux is only the kernel and it's build tools. I think you
mean a linux-distri. Ok, the most of them a really bad, but
4). have you ever used slackware? With slackware you have the total
control of your system. It's cool (ok it's not so cool as OBSD)!
that was a very nice interview. Theo might encourage some other Linux
guys to start spending with OpenBSD for life ;-).
Sparc
Computer Security Professional (CSP) has no reason to lie... to
cheat... to steal... nor tolerate among those who do.
On 6/18/05, Richard Welty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:23:51 +0200 J. Lievisse Adriaanse
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Not everybody there is happy about Theo's words...oh well, what gives ;-)
5). Theo says what he thinks, and thats really good! I like
straightforward people! Theo says in the interview, what HE is thinking
about linux and Co. In some case a think he's right.
well, on the one hand, i largely agree with Theo, but on the other hand,
Dan Lyons of Forbes has been on an anti-open source kick for some time.
me, i'd be very wary of becoming a tool in someone else's agenda.
6). Your're right (in my opinion). The main problem are companies like
MS and not Linux, OBSD or so! We shouln't start a religious war
(that's one reason, why i don't like Stall)!!
richard
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Richard Welty
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Averill Park Networking
Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
Well, if you're not going to expect unexpected flames,
what's the point of going anywhere? -- Truckle the Uncivil
7). If you want to learn kernel-developing, you have to write code. If
you write code for the linux kernel, you have a good chance o see YOUR
code in the kernel tree. If you have the time, you can get a maintainer!
Is it that simple with OBSD? I don't think so! But to become a
kernel-developer, you have to write real code! I in opinion it's
easier to become a linux-kernel-developer than to become a
OBSD-kernel-developer! -- That's the reason, why linux code is not as
good a OBSD-code!
8). In some cases you have to use linux: I have a Benq-Joybook-8000
laptop. It's a laptop, and a laptop is mobile. So i need the battery
state. On Slackware, no problem.OBSD only supports apm, no apci. Apm
won't work on OBSD (apm won't work on linux too) with my laptop. (Why i
use a Benq and not a IBM? Because i don't like the black boring .).
To use my laptop as a laptop i need apci. At the moment i haven't got
the knowlegde to write an apci implemtation for OBSD -- so i have to
use slackware on it.
9). I think, that we (the people, who use OBSD) shouldn't flame linux
user. Only the real developer (Theo, ..) could do so!!
10). OpenBSD is a really good OS!! So i trie to migrate every
maschine from Linux to OBSD (like i did before, when i migrate from MS
to Linux. Since 2001 i have not MS - Maschine).
I hope you're not to angre with me! But i have to say this!
Bye
Thorsten