[Fwd: Re: Theo gave an interview to Forbes Mag. about Linux]

2005-06-18 Thread Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen
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Hello list,

i have to comment this discussion.

1). The world is not black nor white. The world is colorful!
2). I'm a windows hater and a unix lover

Sparc Urani wrote:

based on my experience, Linux is not a good start for the beginners.
for tough systems/network admins its bad. learning unix shall always
start with OpenBSD as they can see the difference when try using Linux
as their alternative OS.
  

3). Linux -- Linux is only the kernel and it's build tools. I think you 
mean  a linux-distri. Ok, the most of them a really bad, but
4). have you ever used slackware? With slackware you have the total 
control of your system. It's cool (ok it's not so cool as OBSD)!

that was a very nice interview. Theo might encourage some other Linux
guys to start spending with OpenBSD for life ;-).

Sparc
Computer Security Professional (CSP) has no reason to lie... to
cheat... to steal... nor tolerate among those who do.

On 6/18/05, Richard Welty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:23:51 +0200 J. Lievisse Adriaanse
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Not everybody there is happy about Theo's words...oh well, what gives ;-)
  

5). Theo says what he thinks, and thats really good! I like 
straightforward people! Theo says in the interview, what HE is thinking 
about linux and Co. In some case a think he's right.

well, on the one hand, i largely agree with Theo, but on the other hand,
Dan Lyons of Forbes has been on an anti-open source kick for some time.

me, i'd be very wary of becoming a tool in someone else's agenda.


6). Your're right (in my opinion). The main problem are companies like 
MS and not Linux, OBSD or so! We shouln't start a religious war 
(that's one reason, why i don't like Stall)!!

richard
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Richard Welty
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Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
  Well, if you're not going to expect unexpected flames,
 what's the point of going anywhere? -- Truckle the Uncivil




  

7). If you want to learn kernel-developing, you have to write code. If 
you write code for the linux kernel, you have a good chance o see YOUR 
code in the kernel tree. If you have the time, you can get a maintainer! 
Is it that simple with OBSD? I don't think so! But to become a 
kernel-developer, you have to write real code! I in opinion it's 
easier to become a linux-kernel-developer than to become a 
OBSD-kernel-developer! -- That's the reason, why linux code is not as 
good a OBSD-code!

8). In some cases you have to use linux: I have a Benq-Joybook-8000 
laptop. It's a laptop, and a laptop is mobile. So i need the battery 
state. On Slackware, no problem.OBSD only supports apm, no apci. Apm 
won't work on OBSD (apm won't work on linux too) with my laptop. (Why i 
use a Benq and not a IBM? Because i don't like the black boring .). 
To use my laptop as a laptop i need apci. At the moment i haven't got 
the knowlegde to write an apci implemtation for OBSD -- so i have to 
use slackware on it.

9). I think, that we (the people, who use OBSD) shouldn't flame linux 
user. Only the real developer (Theo, ..) could do so!!

10). OpenBSD is a really good OS!! So i trie to migrate every 
maschine from Linux to OBSD (like i did before, when i migrate from MS 
to Linux. Since 2001 i have not MS - Maschine).


I hope you're not to angre with me! But i have to say this!

Bye
  Thorsten



Re: speed of mac mini

2005-06-17 Thread Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen

Hello list,

i will only do normal thinks:- some coding -- emacs/terminals/ddd
  - read www.openbsd.org 
-- firefox/dillo
   -read mails of 
misc@openbsd.org -- thunderbird
  - write some letters, do 
some calculations -- abiword/gnumeric
   - some statistik -- 
gnuplot
   - audio/video playing 
-- xmms/mplayer

all with gnome or windowmaker. That's all.

Bye
Thorsten

LiteStar numnums wrote:


G'day,
A friend of mine uses the mini for all of his foto processing with
Photoshop and the like, whilst Illustrator and Safari are running. It
seems fast enough. I've no idea what you want to really do with it (if
it has a hard time with gnome/kde, that would be really bad, eh?), but
for his needs it's fine. Cheers!

On 6/16/05, Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen
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Hello list,

i think of buying a mac mini, but i don't know if a mac mini is fast
enough. So i ask you: does anyone use an mac mini with gnome/kde or so?
At the moment i have an dual-P3 and he's fast enough.

Any coments, suggestions?

Bye
 Thorsten




speed of mac mini

2005-06-16 Thread Thorsten Johannvorderbrueggen

Hello list,

i think of buying a mac mini, but i don't know if a mac mini is fast 
enough. So i ask you: does anyone use an mac mini with gnome/kde or so? 
At the moment i have an dual-P3 and he's fast enough.


Any coments, suggestions?

Bye
 Thorsten