Re: bash: delete key sends ~ instead of [del]

2006-04-12 Thread imEnsion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat .inputrc
\e[3~: delete-char
\e[1~: beginning-of-line
\e[4~: end-of-line
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
 2:18PM  up 527 days,  9:49, 3 users, load averages: 0.85, 0.97, 0.99
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~


Heh... just thought I would throw out the uptime. It's my longest
uptime (freebsd 5.2.1 btw).

cheers.

On 4/9/06, viq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 12 February 2006 07:51, jared r r spiegel wrote:
  On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 05:17:29PM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote:
   Yeah, it does that. I don't know why, I assume historical reasons, and
   I would like to learn from someone here who does know. Use backspace
   instead.
  
   On 2/11/06, Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
on my freshly installed 3.7 in bash the delete key sends an ~
instead of [del]. How can I fix this?
 
it *is* sending del.  rather, the characters sent when you strike the
delete key are recognized by the shell and the shell executes the
editing command delete-char-backward.   problem is it also sends
a tilde after the sequence that the shell recognizes.
 
^[[3~ is what i get here if i just go to a normal console terminal
and hit delete.  that is one character more than my shell is listening
for.
 
i believe, at least with respect to ksh, bound keys are editing commands
that are executed when the shell sees a a control character, which may
be have a prefix-character in front of it, come across.
the ksh manpage (/ for bind) describes it better than i do,
but basically, look at it like this:
 
^[[3~ is three parts.  ^[[, 3, and ~.  ^[[ == ^X, 3 == 3, ~ == ~.
 
when the shell sees that, it recognizes ^[[ as 'prefix-2', or ^X.
^X3 is (i think?) set to 'delete-char-backward'.  at that point, the
  shell does that.  the ~ was not part of the sequence of keys the shell
  recognized because it is too many chars.  you get a prefix and a control
  char, not a prefix and two control chars.  if you type:
 
  blah
 
and hit 'delete', usually you'll end up with
 
  bla~
 
because it did the delete-char-backward, which killed the 'h', but then
the '~' showed up after any shell-recognition was done and so it made
it out to the terminal as a normal character.
 
a hackish way around that is to use '-m' and make it so
that the shell substitutes ^[[3 with a control-X.  eg:
 
  $ bind -m '^[[3'='^X'
 
( where '^X' isn't shift-6, shift-x, but rather:
control-v, control-x. )
 
and then
 
  $ bind '^X~'=delete-char-backward
 
which makes it to that when the shell sees '^[[3', it substitutes that
  for a real ^X.  if i'm hitting delete, the ~ is also sent by my keypress,
  but at that point, the sequence has become '^X~', which then executes
  'delete-char-backward'.
 
perhaps bash is the same...


 And what about the home and end keys? Any way to make them work?

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Re: bash: delete key sends ~ instead of [del]

2006-04-12 Thread imEnsion
hahahaha I think I just got owned.

That is so awesome. I needed the laugh, thank you.


On 4/12/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, imEnsion wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat .inputrc
  \e[3~: delete-char
  \e[1~: beginning-of-line
  \e[4~: end-of-line
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ uptime
   2:18PM  up 527 days,  9:49, 3 users, load averages: 0.85, 0.97, 0.99
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
 
 
  Heh... just thought I would throw out the uptime. It's my longest
  uptime (freebsd 5.2.1 btw).

 To cure this, take art's GENERIC viagra:
 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/diffs/index.html.

-Otto



Re: using openbsd on zaurus

2006-03-15 Thread imEnsion
If all you are looking for is a small portable email client/web
browser for the road, check ebay for a really small/cheap laptop..
aka: the thinkpad 240. It is fully supported by openbsd extremely
easily. An out of the box install of openbsd easily runs on the 240
without much configuration needed. These little laptops are cheap and
reliable. The only thing which kinda sucks... when playing music, if
you use headphones, you can hear the hard drive access noises since
the laptop is so small.

That doesn't bother me much though as I whore the ipod everywhere I go anyway.

I'm hoping to use a zaurus as a full featured browser, email client
while on the road



Re: stuck on upgrading from 3.7 to 3.8 - Exception handling flag day

2005-12-17 Thread imEnsion
Oh give it up.  You are clearly not skilled enough to even compile
code, let alone provide consulting services.

Everytime Theo speaks, I have some new quote materal.

woo



Re: downloading http

2005-09-15 Thread imEnsion
download http?

I think you're looking for wget.

/usr/ports/net/wget/



On 9/15/05, George Georgalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pardon the stupid question. But how does one download http in
 OpenBSD? I looked for fetch in packages but did not find. I see
 this dir /usr/rOPENBSD_3_7/infrastructure/fetch but I'm not sure
 what it is or how to use it.
 
 Is ports required to get files by this protocol? I'm not sure what
 else I can do to find the package
 ls ~ftp/OpenBSD/3.7/packages/i386/ |grep get
 ls ~ftp/OpenBSD/3.7/packages/i386/ |grep ht
 and search for http download didn't get me anything but fetchmail. Is
 there a better way to search for packages?
 
 // George
 
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Re: [OT]: good home switch?

2005-09-04 Thread imEnsion
I've seen how a lot of people recommend the metal case Netgear FS105
and FS108. I am currently using the FS105 -- and have been using it
for well over 4 years now. It just sits there in the corner, always
on, never bitching, and always working. What more can I ask for?

PS: a vonage router is connected to it, along with a windows box, a 24
port 10/100 switch (which is connected to openbsd/freebsd/solaris
machines). Anyway, I haven't had any major complaint with it, as it
works for my use (home networking  such).


Just my $0.02USD



On 9/4/05, Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 13:57 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  p.s.
  Forget about D-Link! I recomment to stay far far away of these crap.
 
 I am using a D-Link switch and it has performed acceptably so far. Their
 wireless access points might be another story, though...
 
 --
 Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: ThinkPad testers required

2005-08-27 Thread imEnsion
I have a thinkpad x22.. not sure if I can help, but if i can slap a
snapshot on the lappy, would it be of any help?



On 8/27/05, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can people with the following laptops:
 
 - ThinkPad R50, R50p, R51, R52
 - ThinkPad T41, T41p, T42, T42p, T43, T43p
 - ThinkPad X40
 - ThinkPad X41, X41 Tablet
 
 Try running the latest snapshot (08/27/05 06:49:00)
 
 Check they have working aps via
 sysctl hw.sensors
 Numbers should change when tilting the laptop.
 
 Suspend the system ie
 zzz
 
 Resume and check they still have normal looking
 numbers when running the same sysctl command again?
 
 We need this to be tested on as wide a range
 of models as possible ASAP.
 
 Send all reports positive and negative alike
 to djm@ and me.



Re: Text editor

2005-08-07 Thread imEnsion
I'm surprised everyone keeps recommending using vi and vim, yet no one
has given a pointer on how to learn it. Sure, an OReilly book may come
in handly for this (such as the pocket version of vi tips), but the
best way to learn is of course to read the man page.

Aside from the man page, if you install vim (which i highly
recommend), there is a little program/script/whatever called vimtutor
that will get you familiar with vi/vim. I hop this helps a little bit.

Good luck.. and welcome to UNIX (not those linux wannabees :P)

 

On 8/7/05, Jason McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 06:21:55PM +1000, Zoong PHAM wrote:
  On Sunday,  7 August 2005 at  9:34:18 +0200, Sigfred Heversen wrote:
   The only text editor in bsd.rd is ed, so chances are that one may have
   to use it on occasion (shudder).
 
  And if you are in support role, sometimes you have to tell someone on the
  phone how to edit system config files (in single user mode) with ed.
  Life is tough :-)
 
 
 shudder?
 tough?
 
 it is 166kb of kick ass editor that will save your life someday. all
 hail and revel in the glory that is ed(1)!
 
 SEE ALSO
 A Tutorial Introduction to the UNIX Text Editor,
  /usr/share/doc/usd/09.edtut/.
 
 jmc



Re: syslogd udp port

2005-08-05 Thread imEnsion
haha, henning.. i love your technical responses to problems. they're
always very short, sweet and to the point (and you're 99.999% of the
time right).

if i could make it to a hackathon (or even get invited, heh) i'd buy a
round of beer for everyone to calm the *%# down :P



On 8/5/05, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 syslog shutdown()s  the port for reading. there is no real difference
 to not opening it at all.
 
 * mdff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-05 13:13]:
  snipblah blah...snap
  he'd better do man syslogd... but assume this:
  - no pf for udp/514.
  - a DOS or DDOS to this OPEN port.
  - syslogd running just in send mode.
  - and finally: no remote syslogging configured because of only 1 box here.
 
  will it take more ressources to handle this with an open port
  compared to a closed one or not? i guess yes. and for security,
  i guess a closed port is still better, than an application reading
  all packets and discarding them...
 
  question: what about 1 more argv to have syslogd not to bind udp/514 at all?
 
  br, mdff...
 
 
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Re: 3.7 latest and hidden ssid?

2005-08-02 Thread imEnsion
I wish I could chime in and let you know more specifics about your
question, but I want to let you know my experience with wireless and
just leave it at that. Maybe someone can actually help you with your
question.

Either way, what I've found is that hiding your ssid from the world
does nothing except make it harder for you to connect to your own
access point. If someone wants to get in to your network, hiding the
ssid won't do anything. Programs like netstumbler on windows and
kismet on linux can *EASILY* see a hidden ssid. This makes me ask the
question, why do you need to hide your ssid?

Yes, I know how asking redundant questions like why are you doing
this, why are you doing that isn't really helpful, but in this case
it seems a justified answer.. given that people can easily get around
a hidden ssid and it just makes life for YOU harder.

I hope this helps in just a little way. If not, then I hope someone
else can chime in with a more relevant answer.



On 8/2/05, Jonas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I'm have problems to connect to a AP with hidden ssid.
 As soon as I unhides the ssid my OpenBSD client can connect and when I
 hides the ssid on the AP again, my client drops the connection!?
 
 Why is that?
 
 
 I'm using OpenBSD snapshot (from 31/7) and a Ralink rt2500 pccard (Level
 One WPC-0301).



Re: sleep patterns...

2005-07-05 Thread imEnsion
hahaha. in one of my sleep deprived moments a couple years ago.. i was
messing with kernel compiles and such, when i mistakenly did... rm -rf
/etc instead of rm -rf etc

of course i immediately realized this and hit ctrl + c

needless to say, the box was unimportant (THANK GOD) and this was back
when 3.1 just got released. either way, the box ran for about a month
after that without any problems. then one day i wanted to add a user
and found i couldn't.

ah, the stupidity of working sleep deprived for days =/



On 7/4/05, viq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 04 of July 2005 21:25, Todd C. Miller wrote:
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
so spake unixadmin99 (unixadmin99):
   Accidently emptied half the contents of src.tar.gz into /usr/bin while
   undergoing an install under the intoxication of sleep.
 
  Be glad you didn't do this in /usr (as I have done).  Things
  get downright unhappy when /usr/libexec/ld.so is a directory ;-)
 
 that's what i managed to do - couldn't even log in or shut down system
 properly :( that's where upgrade helped ;)
 
   - todd
 
 viq
 
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