Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Ontopic: just a noob question, can you use a tcp lb or similar to spread
the load? Thinking relayd and whatever the shared interface is called. Or
are limited to one machine?


from the topic it seems that network itself and tcp transport isn't a 
problem here.




Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data.


But... they're free :)

Great quote I forgot where from: "when you don't know what the product is -- the 
product is you"


this is what i was talking about. But thanks for citation - it compressed 
my multisentence explanation in a one liner.




Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Joakim Dellrud
Ontopic: just a noob question, can you use a tcp lb or similar to spread
the load? Thinking relayd and whatever the shared interface is called. Or
are limited to one machine?

Off topic some do not have the will to setup their own mail server. And
they read or reg everything anyway...
On Jul 19, 2012 4:51 PM, "Peter Laufenberg"  wrote:



Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>> My yahoo account separates out the many list mails. I sometimes feel a
>Th problem is not yahoo but all such services. Yahoo, gmail, hotmail, 
>@wp.pl etc... are all here to control people. nothing else.
>
>You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data.

But... they're free :)

Great quote I forgot where from: "when you don't know what the product is -- 
the product is you"

-- p



Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Believe me that will change one day. Never had a trusted employee
poached by a competitor for example?


I just dare to say even greatest software will not solve it.
But believing it will make a danger

Once more i propose moving off list, and you've sent me something 
privately as my logs shows but still from @yahoo.


Please use NORMAL mail account.

In which case I'd have to use my OpenBSD mail server to talk off list.


So do it.


My yahoo account separates out the many list mails. I sometimes feel a
Th problem is not yahoo but all such services. Yahoo, gmail, hotmail, 
@wp.pl etc... are all here to control people. nothing else.


You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data.

Using for mailing lists isn't bad as it's not private.



Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:47:12 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar wrote:

> depends on assumption. For every business i work i assume that co-workers 
> doesn't harm and that's agreed with the boss.
>

Believe me that will change one day. Never had a trusted employee
poached by a competitor for example?

> 
> I am not paranoid. If in any company you must fear that coworker is a 
> security danger then something is definitely wrong with that company and 
> it is not my job as an admin to fix it.
> 

I disagree completely. I don't fear it because I cover those risks.


> That's my opinion, i propose going off list.
> 
> And not with "free" email like @yahoo.co.uk about which you should be 10 
> times more feared than over your untrusty coworkers.
> 
> my .procmailrc redirect all "free" emails like this to /dev/null.


In which case I'd have to use my OpenBSD mail server to talk off list.
My yahoo account separates out the many list mails. I sometimes feel a
bit harsh on Yahoo though as I stopped using their web search when
Microsoft took it over.


I'd use ssh over rsh every time except maybe to see if the throughput
increased.



Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I regularly do use rsh and rcp in my work.
and ssh/scp when needed (public network)


Do you work with a small trusted group, because many attacks come from
co-workers.


depends on assumption. For every business i work i assume that co-workers 
doesn't harm and that's agreed with the boss.


With different assumption i would not just design everything different but 
actually lock every single person in separate room, controlling every more 
(because someone may just go to other room) etc...



I am not paranoid. If in any company you must fear that coworker is a 
security danger then something is definitely wrong with that company and 
it is not my job as an admin to fix it.


That's my opinion, i propose going off list.

And not with "free" email like @yahoo.co.uk about which you should be 10 
times more feared than over your untrusty coworkers.


my .procmailrc redirect all "free" emails like this to /dev/null.



Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I regularly do use rsh and rcp in my work.
> and ssh/scp when needed (public network)

Do you work with a small trusted group, because many attacks come from
co-workers.

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 Why not do something good every day and install BOINC.