Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-12 Thread Brian Candler
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:07:08PM +1000, Chris wrote:
 I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
 for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
 modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
 Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
 if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
 catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.
 
 Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
 purposes

My suggestion - don't buy one. Instead, run a Cisco IOS image inside a
Dynamips virtual machine:
http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/index.php/Cisco_7200_Simulator

This can emulate a 7204 quite happily. But even better, it can emulate a
whole *network* of 7204's. So you can set up a whole bunch of these virtual
routers talking ospf, bgp, l2tp, or whatever you like.

Of course, you still need to get your hands on an IOS image somehow.

 and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.

Well, if you want a (relatively) cheap ADSL router for home use you could
look at the 877W. If you get the ADVIPSERVICES licence then you get VRF-lite
functionality too. But if this is your main Internet access gateway then you
probably don't want to be meddling with it too much as a learning tool at
the same time.

For a small desktop switch with VLAN capability, consider the 2940-8TT (8
ports 10/100 plus 1 port gigabit). The big advantage of this is that it is
silent and fanless, which you'll appreciate if you've ever had a Catalyst on
your desk.

Regards,

Brian.



Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-12 Thread Brian Candler
On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 09:39:04AM +0100, Brian Candler wrote:
  Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
  purposes

Sorry, my mistake - I thought you said for *learning* purposes. For
*leaning* purposes, an empty 72xx chassis is probably heavy enough :-)



[OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-09 Thread Chris
I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.

Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
purposes and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.



Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-09 Thread Reyk Floeter
why do you expect recommendations for gear from cizzco-eeh on an
openbsd list? tsk tsk tsk

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:07:08PM +1000, Chris wrote:
 I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
 for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
 modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
 Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
 if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
 catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.
 
 Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
 purposes and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.



Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-09 Thread David Newman
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 On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:07:08PM +1000, Chris wrote:

 I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
 for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
 modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
 Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
 if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
 catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.

 Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
 purposes and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.

Try asking on cisco-nsp:

http://puck.nether.net/cisco-nsp/

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Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-09 Thread Nick Davey
You should be deploying OBSD as routers, but since it's for learning :P. Buy
the Cisco 2900XL, as the 1900 runs CatOS and is only 10meg. You can use the
2900XL as a production switch for your network (I do) and the fact that it
runs IOS will be good for learning. For routers just use Dynagen, which is
an IOS emulator, and will allow you to easily build labs. More info can be
found here: dynagen.org/*tutorial*.htm. You need to provide your own IOS
image for it, but I'm sure you'll be able to find one. If not pick up a
Cisco 2610 or a Cisco 3640.

Cheers,
Nick

On 8/9/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
 for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
 modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
 Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
 if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
 catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.

 Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
 purposes and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.



Re: [OT] cisco switch, router and firewall suggestions

2007-08-09 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:07:08PM +1000, Chris wrote:
 I'm trying to buy (from ebay) a cisco switch, router and pix firewall
 for learning purposes. All these will be connected to a Linksys ADSL
 modem which also has wireless capability. The OSs will be OpenBSD4.1,
 Windows XP and Linux distros. I will probably also try IPv6 (not sure
 if that has got anything to do with this). I had a look at cisco
 catalyst 1900 series switch and it looked ok.
 
 Could anyone recommend anything that would be great for leaning
 purposes and also be able to handle daily Internet traffic? Thanks.

If the point is to learn OpenBSD, or general routing, 'whatever' will
work pretty well, though having a VLAN- and/or (R)STP-capable switch
might be neat.

If you want to learn Cisco, well, you've been given some appropriate
tips and sentiments already.

Joachim

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