Re: Binary kernel updates
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:29:17 -0700 Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am exceedingly sorry. I realize now that it was not Rico's fault. > My venom was uncalled for... > > Again, sorry Rico, et al... Apology accepted :-) > back to the shadows... > > On 4/10/07, Jeremy Huiskamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you'd bothered to inspect the headers you would have noticed that > > the below message was sent before the one that has many replies but > > it didn't arrive until about 20 hours after it was sent. Probably > > stuck in the pipes somewhere, that seems to happen with misc@ alot. > > Rico probably figured it was lost and so he sent another which is > > fairly reasonable. > > > > Jeremy > > > > On 10-Apr-07, at 12:44 PM, Bryan wrote: > > > > > Why post twice? Sending it as different person within 24 hours of one > > > another is not going to get what you want... A couple of people gave > > > you solutions, choose one, or move to Linux... > > > > > > Remember this??? > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > tomisc@openbsd.org > > > date Apr 9, 2007 4:43 PM > > > subject Binary kernel and base update > > > mailed-by openbsd.org > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > > > using binary > > > packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is > > > good, but why > > > is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching > > > the kernel > > > from source? > > > > > > I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, > > > rather in > > > OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and > > > yes there > > > exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official > > > OpenBSD way? > > > > > > Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of > > > our servers > > > due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem > > > upgrades. > > > > > > OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why > > > not kernel > > > and basesystem binary updates as well? > > > > > > Best and kind regards. > > > > > > Rico > > > > > > On 4/9/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi all. > > >> > > >> I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > > >> using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I > > >> think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel > > >> updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? > > >> > > >> I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, > > >> rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time > > >> consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but > > >> why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? > > >> > > >> Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of > > >> our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and > > >> basesystem upgrades. > > >> > > >> OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why > > >> not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? > > >> > > >> Best and kind regards. > > >> > > >> Rico
Re: Binary kernel updates
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:34:57 -0400 Jeremy Huiskamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you'd bothered to inspect the headers you would have noticed that > the below message was sent before the one that has many replies but > it didn't arrive until about 20 hours after it was sent. Probably > stuck in the pipes somewhere, that seems to happen with misc@ alot. > Rico probably figured it was lost and so he sent another which is > fairly reasonable. Thank you Jeremy! That was exactly what happened :-) I thought my ISP had some problems with his SMTP server. > Jeremy > > On 10-Apr-07, at 12:44 PM, Bryan wrote: > > > Why post twice? Sending it as different person within 24 hours of one > > another is not going to get what you want... A couple of people gave > > you solutions, choose one, or move to Linux... > > > > Remember this??? > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > to misc@openbsd.org > > dateApr 9, 2007 4:43 PM > > subject Binary kernel and base update > > mailed-by openbsd.org > > > > Hi all. > > > > I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > > using binary > > packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is > > good, but why > > is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching > > the kernel > > from source? > > > > I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, > > rather in > > OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and > > yes there > > exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official > > OpenBSD way? > > > > Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of > > our servers > > due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem > > upgrades. > > > > OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why > > not kernel > > and basesystem binary updates as well? > > > > Best and kind regards. > > > > Rico > > > > On 4/9/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi all. > >> > >> I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > >> using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I > >> think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel > >> updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? > >> > >> I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, > >> rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time > >> consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but > >> why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? > >> > >> Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of > >> our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and > >> basesystem upgrades. > >> > >> OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why > >> not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? > >> > >> Best and kind regards. > >> > >> Rico
Re: Binary kernel updates
I am exceedingly sorry. I realize now that it was not Rico's fault. My venom was uncalled for... Again, sorry Rico, et al... back to the shadows... On 4/10/07, Jeremy Huiskamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you'd bothered to inspect the headers you would have noticed that the below message was sent before the one that has many replies but it didn't arrive until about 20 hours after it was sent. Probably stuck in the pipes somewhere, that seems to happen with misc@ alot. Rico probably figured it was lost and so he sent another which is fairly reasonable. Jeremy On 10-Apr-07, at 12:44 PM, Bryan wrote: > Why post twice? Sending it as different person within 24 hours of one > another is not going to get what you want... A couple of people gave > you solutions, choose one, or move to Linux... > > Remember this??? > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > tomisc@openbsd.org > date Apr 9, 2007 4:43 PM > subject Binary kernel and base update > mailed-by openbsd.org > > Hi all. > > I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on > using binary > packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is > good, but why > is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching > the kernel > from source? > > I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, > rather in > OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and > yes there > exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official > OpenBSD way? > > Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of > our servers > due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem > upgrades. > > OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why > not kernel > and basesystem binary updates as well? > > Best and kind regards. > > Rico > > On 4/9/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on >> using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I >> think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel >> updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? >> >> I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, >> rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time >> consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but >> why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? >> >> Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of >> our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and >> basesystem upgrades. >> >> OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why >> not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? >> >> Best and kind regards. >> >> Rico
Re: Binary kernel updates
If you'd bothered to inspect the headers you would have noticed that the below message was sent before the one that has many replies but it didn't arrive until about 20 hours after it was sent. Probably stuck in the pipes somewhere, that seems to happen with misc@ alot. Rico probably figured it was lost and so he sent another which is fairly reasonable. Jeremy On 10-Apr-07, at 12:44 PM, Bryan wrote: Why post twice? Sending it as different person within 24 hours of one another is not going to get what you want... A couple of people gave you solutions, choose one, or move to Linux... Remember this??? "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to misc@openbsd.org dateApr 9, 2007 4:43 PM subject Binary kernel and base update mailed-by openbsd.org Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? Best and kind regards. Rico On 4/9/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? Best and kind regards. Rico
Re: Binary kernel updates
Hey Rico, Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. I guess management is the one maintaining the servers were you work then, or you told them it was to hard, so you get what you asked for.
Re: Binary kernel updates
Hey Rico, > Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our > servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and > basesystem upgrades. You must be joking. > OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not > kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? `man release` once more. Be well and good luck with your management... Nico
Re: Binary kernel updates
Why post twice? Sending it as different person within 24 hours of one another is not going to get what you want... A couple of people gave you solutions, choose one, or move to Linux... Remember this??? "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to misc@openbsd.org dateApr 9, 2007 4:43 PM subject Binary kernel and base update mailed-by openbsd.org Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? Best and kind regards. Rico On 4/9/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? Best and kind regards. Rico
Binary kernel updates
Hi all. I have noticed that the OpenBSD team puts a lot of emphasis on using binary packets rather than building from ports, which I think IMHO is good, but why is it that there is no binary kernel updates, rather than patching the kernel from source? I am asking this not from a point that we find this difficult, rather in OpenBSD its really easy. But sometimes its very time consuming, and yes there exists binpatch and other solutions, but why isn't there an official OpenBSD way? Last week management decided to go back to using Debian on some of our servers due to them being easy to upgrade including kernel and basesystem upgrades. OpenBSD has really made a cool solution with pkg_add -u, but why not kernel and basesystem binary updates as well? Best and kind regards. Rico
