Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-11-05 Thread Andreas Bihlmaier
Hi,
sorry for the very late reply, but my obsd.misc mail folder has grown to
3000 mails during the last couple weeks while I was busy moving.

Anyway, I'm as the original author of said page can confirm (sadly) that
you might run into a (known!?) cdboot bug. For some reason cdboot can't
boot a DVD exceeding a certain size and or containing more than a
certain amount of files.

There is a rather ugly, but at least working way around.
Josh Grosse found it while building his live CDs, which can be found
here, btw.:
http://jggimi.homeip.net/livecd/faq.html

The problem arouse with the KDE ones, the solution is to pack
/usr/local into its own .iso (or perhaps a vnc mounted image would work
as well) and mount it during startup.

I did not build a LiveCD for a long time myself, but I hope too have
free time coming up and will then update the instructions where
necessary.

Regards,
ahb


On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 09:35:18AM -0500, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. wrote:
 qemu doesn't work for some reason.  Anytime I try and use qemu I get the 
 error Cannot initialize SDL library...

 Yes, I have tried it in different hardware.  What exactly do cdbr and 
 cdboot do?  I get the screen that says OpenBSD boot loader (with the 
 hardware fd1 etc listed), with the Loading /CDBOOT above it and it just 
 hangs.

 cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader.  
 cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC.  Don't hesitate to correct me 
 if I'm wrong here.

 The help is apprecitated.  I'm not trying to make install media (that would 
 actually be easy), just boot this liveCD.  Has anyone else gotten a LiveDVD 
 to work?

 Ted


 On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:21:06 -0500, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...
 Relevant info:
 ---
 I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

 The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

 /usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
 -D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd

 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline, 
 so
 any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated

 Have you tested the .iso in QEMU? Have you tried it on different
 hardware? Maybe it's because it's a DVD (DVDs might need more drivers
 than the boot loader has? Maybe try cdboot instead of cdbr?

 -Nick



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Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.

Hello all,

Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...

I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD 4.1 snapshot.  I know this  
is an unofficial page, but I followed the instructions here:

http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD

I'm using 4.1 because of the libraries required on the LiveDVD.  This  
LiveDVD is used for in-house hardware diagnostics with customized programs  
written for BSD.  I thought it would be easier to boot from CD rather than  
installing OpenBSD on every machine we need to use as a hardware testbed.



The only changes I made to the above instructions were to copy the  
backup/{} directories instead of tar'ing them and unzipping them.


Everything works fine until the hang on boot with the message: Loading  
CBDR..  The disc then fails to boot.


Relevant info:
---
I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

/usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d  
-D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline, so  
any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated.


Ted Goodridge



Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...
 Relevant info:
 ---
 I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

 The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

 /usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
 -D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd

 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline, so
 any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated

Have you tested the .iso in QEMU? Have you tried it on different
hardware? Maybe it's because it's a DVD (DVDs might need more drivers
than the boot loader has? Maybe try cdboot instead of cdbr?

-Nick



Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
qemu doesn't work for some reason.  Anytime I try and use qemu I get the  
error Cannot initialize SDL library...


Yes, I have tried it in different hardware.  What exactly do cdbr and  
cdboot do?  I get the screen that says OpenBSD boot loader (with the  
hardware fd1 etc listed), with the Loading /CDBOOT above it and it just  
hangs.


cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader.   
cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC.  Don't hesitate to correct me  
if I'm wrong here.


The help is apprecitated.  I'm not trying to make install media (that  
would actually be easy), just boot this liveCD.  Has anyone else gotten a  
LiveDVD to work?


Ted


On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:21:06 -0500, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all,

Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...
Relevant info:
---
I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

/usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
-D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso  
/livecd



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline,  
so

any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated


Have you tested the .iso in QEMU? Have you tried it on different
hardware? Maybe it's because it's a DVD (DVDs might need more drivers
than the boot loader has? Maybe try cdboot instead of cdbr?

-Nick




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Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
Just an update...it hangs on the message Loading /CDBOOT not cdbr as  
previously posted.  Sorry about that.


CC me directly as I am offlist.

Ted Goodridge
--


Hello all,

Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...

I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD 4.1 snapshot.  I know this
is an unofficial page, but I followed the instructions here:
http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD

I'm using 4.1 because of the libraries required on the LiveDVD.  This
LiveDVD is used for in-house hardware diagnostics with customized programs
written for BSD.  I thought it would be easier to boot from CD rather than
installing OpenBSD on every machine we need to use as a hardware testbed.


The only changes I made to the above instructions were to copy the
backup/{} directories instead of tar'ing them and unzipping them.

Everything works fine until the hang on boot with the message: Loading
CBDR..  The disc then fails to boot.

Relevant info:
---
I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

/usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
-D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline, so
any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated.

Ted Goodridge
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Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.

cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader.
cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC.  Don't hesitate to correct  
me

if I'm wrong here.


Oh, no, that sounds about right, I guess.


The help is apprecitated.  I'm not trying to make install media (that
would actually be easy), just boot this liveCD.  Has anyone else gotten  
a

LiveDVD to work?

Ted


If you make a LiveCD (not DVD) does it work?


The How-to says you can use this to build a LiveDVD.  I thought that the  
bios booted the same if it was a dvd or a cd...?  I really need the space  
a DVD offers.


Does the CD boot loader have trouble with DVDs?

Ted



Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:21:06 -0500, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...
  Relevant info:
  ---
  I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions
 
  The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:
 
  /usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
  -D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso
  /livecd
 
  
  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline,
  so
  any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated
 
  Have you tested the .iso in QEMU? Have you tried it on different
  hardware? Maybe it's because it's a DVD (DVDs might need more drivers
  than the boot loader has? Maybe try cdboot instead of cdbr?
 
  -Nick
 qemu doesn't work for some reason.  Anytime I try and use qemu I get the
 error Cannot initialize SDL library...

Is SDL installed right?
Wait.. are you running in X or console? Qemu needs graphics.

 Yes, I have tried it in different hardware.  What exactly do cdbr and
 cdboot do?  I get the screen that says OpenBSD boot loader (with the
 hardware fd1 etc listed), with the Loading /CDBOOT above it and it just
 hangs.

 cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader.
 cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC.  Don't hesitate to correct me
 if I'm wrong here.

Oh, no, that sounds about right, I guess.

 The help is apprecitated.  I'm not trying to make install media (that
 would actually be easy), just boot this liveCD.  Has anyone else gotten a
 LiveDVD to work?

 Ted

If you make a LiveCD (not DVD) does it work?

-Nick



Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader.
  cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC.  Don't hesitate to correct
  me
  if I'm wrong here.
 
  Oh, no, that sounds about right, I guess.
 
  The help is apprecitated.  I'm not trying to make install media (that
  would actually be easy), just boot this liveCD.  Has anyone else gotten
  a
  LiveDVD to work?
 
  Ted
 
  If you make a LiveCD (not DVD) does it work?

 The How-to says you can use this to build a LiveDVD.  I thought that the
 bios booted the same if it was a dvd or a cd...?  I really need the space
 a DVD offers.

Yeah you'd think that. But don't trust it.

 Does the CD boot loader have trouble with DVDs?

It might. Who knows? CDs are a much more standard technology. Try it
first with CDs and make sure that works. Always work from a known
good, right?

You could always netboot (PXE) these computers, you know.

-Nick



Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Hi,

I hope you succeed. I'd be very itnerested in a live cd/dvd for obsd.
As you say, it's ideal to test hardware, but I don't have to time to
do it myself. Btw, why obsd 4.1?
Do you plan to upload the iso to some site? There were some projects,
like quetzal and olivebsd, but they died, I think.

good luck,

Pau

2007/10/22, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello all,

 Please CC to me directly as I am offlist...

 I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD 4.1 snapshot.  I know this
 is an unofficial page, but I followed the instructions here:
 http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD

 I'm using 4.1 because of the libraries required on the LiveDVD.  This
 LiveDVD is used for in-house hardware diagnostics with customized programs
 written for BSD.  I thought it would be easier to boot from CD rather than
 installing OpenBSD on every machine we need to use as a hardware testbed.


 The only changes I made to the above instructions were to copy the
 backup/{} directories instead of tar'ing them and unzipping them.

 Everything works fine until the hang on boot with the message: Loading
 CBDR..  The disc then fails to boot.

 Relevant info:
 ---
 I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions

 The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows:

 /usr/local/bin/mkisofs -no-iso-translate -R -T -allow-leading-dots -l -d
 -D -N -v -b cdbr -no-emul-boot -c boot.catalog -o /tmp/livecd.iso /livecd

 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm pushing against a deadline, so
 any tips / pointers / suggestions are also appreciated.

 Ted Goodridge