Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-21 Thread Michal Soltys

smith wrote:



If you successfully do this, can you post how you did it?



The magic is in bsd's ftp(1) -o flag, which makes it a bit similar beast 
to the wget. It can also pull the file using http or, since 4.0, https - 
check AUTO-FETCHING FILES section in the man, it's quite fexible piece of 
tool.


As for recovering / cloning using bsd.rd, you could simply do something like:

newfs /dev/rwd1e
mount -o async /dev/wd1e /mnt
cd /mnt
ftp -o - ftp://openbsd.example.com/partition.dump | restore rvf -
cd /
umount /mnt

One remark though - use or prepare larger /tmp before doing so, or you may 
irritate restore quite a bit, if you recover some larger filesystem.




Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-21 Thread Henning Brauer
* Michal Soltys [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-21 10:02]:
 smith wrote:
 
 
 If you successfully do this, can you post how you did it?
 
 
 The magic is in bsd's ftp(1) -o flag, which makes it a bit similar beast 
 to the wget. It can also pull the file using http or, since 4.0, https - 
 check AUTO-FETCHING FILES section in the man, it's quite fexible piece of 
 tool.

but on the ramdisks there is a slightly limited version (for space 
reasons), that does not support https (but plain http).

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Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-20 Thread smith
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:35:28 -0400, Martin Gignac wrote
 On 10/19/06, Michal Soltys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You can pipe ftp's output to restore.
 
 Hey man, great idea! I'll try it out.
 
 Thanks!
 -Martin
 
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 Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names
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If you successfully do this, can you post how you did it?



Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Gignac

Hi,

I've been playing with dump(8) recently and have tried two different
ways of using it: backing up to a file on a USB drive, and backing up
to a remote box by specifying a remote file and using SSH in lieu of
RSH. I was also planning to try to write to a file on a remote machine
via NFS but I haven't had the time to try this.

I was planning to try to boot another computer using 'bsd.rd' on an
OpenBSD install CD, skip the install script, label and newfs the
appropriate partitions, and see if I could restore that system to a
previous state using the dumps.

However I noticed that 'ssh' or 'mount_nfs' do not seem to be
available on 'bsd.rd'.

So my question is this: is doing a remote network restore using
'bsd.rd' at all possible (or even suggested/recommended) or are
directly attached devices (IDE/SCSI/USB drives  tapes drives) the
only supported restore(8) sources with 'bsd.rd'?

Note: although I've used ufsdump and ufsrestore about five years ago
on a Solaris box with an attached tape drive, I haven't played with
backups on UN*X in a long while and I'm not very familiar with it
anymore, so forgive me if my question is stupid in any way.

Thanks,
-Martin

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the streets after them.

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Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Michal Soltys

So my question is this: is doing a remote network restore using
'bsd.rd' at all possible (or even suggested/recommended) or are
directly attached devices (IDE/SCSI/USB drives  tapes drives) the
only supported restore(8) sources with 'bsd.rd'?


You can pipe ftp's output to restore.



Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Gignac

On 10/19/06, Michal Soltys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You can pipe ftp's output to restore.


Hey man, great idea! I'll try it out.

Thanks!
-Martin

--
Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names
the streets after them.

  --Bill Vaughan



Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Bob Beck
My typical way to do his is find my latest dump(s) on tape
or elsewhere - chuck them on an nfs server accesible to the machine
to be restored, boot from bsd.rd, mount the nfs location with the
dump files and proceed.

-Bob


* Michal Soltys [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-19 09:19]:
 So my question is this: is doing a remote network restore using
 'bsd.rd' at all possible (or even suggested/recommended) or are
 directly attached devices (IDE/SCSI/USB drives  tapes drives) the
 only supported restore(8) sources with 'bsd.rd'?
 
 You can pipe ftp's output to restore.
 

-- 
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if ((not 0  not 1) !=  (! 0  ! 1)) {
   print Larry and Tom must smoke some really primo stuff...\n; 
}



Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Gignac

On 10/19/06, Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My typical way to do his is find my latest dump(s) on tape
or elsewhere - chuck them on an nfs server accesible to the machine
to be restored, boot from bsd.rd, mount the nfs location with the
dump files and proceed.


That's why I'd *like* to do, but I don't have 'mount_nfs' on my
bsd.rd. I'm guessing you are using a non-i386 bsd.rd, right?

The FAQ at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#InstMedia mentions
that the OpenBSD/i386 platform does not support NFS installs, so I
guess a i386 cd40.iso image will not ne NFS-capable, and therefore NFS
is not an option for me.

Makes sense, right?

At least, as Michal suggested I could use FTP.

-Martin

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the streets after them.

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Re: Is doing a network restore from bsd.rd at all possible?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Gignac

On 10/19/06, Martin Gignac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey man, great idea! I'll try it out.


Yup, tried a restore(8) via HTTP and it worked fine!

Thanks again for the tip.

-Martin

--
Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names
the streets after them.

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