Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Joe Gidi j...@entropicblur.com wrote: Christopher Intemann wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? There is no support for binary blob drivers, and I'd be absolutely shocked if it was even considered at any point. OpenBSD doesn't work that way. If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Intel and some ATI cards have working DRI/DRM. See http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081029164221 Thanks for the hint. This looks very promising to me, even though I'm not very sure how to use the driver on OpenBSD yet. Is there any good straight forward-howto I could learn from? One more thing: I could get my hands on a cheap Sun Blade sparc workstation. Since the drivers mentioned above are OpenSource, would it be possible to plug a supported ATI graphics-card in the PCI-slot of the sparc box and compile the driver in order to use it? Which graphics card would be recommended (most current cards seem to be AGP-cards - are there any newer PCI-cards with current chipsets applicable at all?) Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - but does it work with OpenBSD? I can't speak to that particular printer model, but odds are very good that it will work with either lpd or CUPS when the appropriate configuration is done. Some links on printing in OpenBSD: http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2007/05/16/2200/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2006/08/27/1218/ http://erdelynet.com/tech/openbsd/using-foo2zjs-with-openbsd-lpd/ Thanks. I'll check that as well. Regards, Chris
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
* Christopher Intemann on Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:03:47AM +0200: Intel and some ATI cards have working DRI/DRM. See http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081029164221 Thanks for the hint. This looks very promising to me, even though I'm not very sure how to use the driver on OpenBSD yet. Is there any good straight forward-howto I could learn from? If the card is supported, it should just work. On my box, first thing I did after a fresh 4.5 install: $ startx [...] $ xdriinfo Screen 0: i915 s//un
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
On Mon, May 25, 2009 5:03 am, Christopher Intemann wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Joe Gidi j...@entropicblur.com wrote: Christopher Intemann wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? There is no support for binary blob drivers, and I'd be absolutely shocked if it was even considered at any point. OpenBSD doesn't work that way. If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Intel and some ATI cards have working DRI/DRM. See http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081029164221 Thanks for the hint. This looks very promising to me, even though I'm not very sure how to use the driver on OpenBSD yet. Is there any good straight forward-howto I could learn from? In my experience, Intel graphics typically just work without an xorg.conf file, while ATIs need an appropriate xorg.conf. See http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq11.html One more thing: I could get my hands on a cheap Sun Blade sparc workstation. Since the drivers mentioned above are OpenSource, would it be possible to plug a supported ATI graphics-card in the PCI-slot of the sparc box and compile the driver in order to use it? Which graphics card would be recommended (most current cards seem to be AGP-cards - are there any newer PCI-cards with current chipsets applicable at all?) To the best of my knowledge, 3D acceleration is not yet supported on platforms other than i386/amd64. That said, you can still get accelerated 2D graphics with an ATI card on sparc64; see the FAQ. I think you need a Sun-specific PCI video card for this, since the card's firmware needs to work with OpenFirmware. -- Joe Gidi j...@entropicblur.com
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - but does it work with OpenBSD? Thx, Chris Hi Chris, I just want to address the issue of the Epson SX100 since I belive you got very good answers regarding 3D acceleration. Scanners which are supported by sane-backends work rock stable on OpenBSD. The only exception I personally have encountered (I have probably tried two dozen scanners on OpenBSD) are HP SCSI scanners which you can probably find only in a museum anyway. The sane-backends for those use some cheap Linux hacks. The real issue here, I is that you want to use all-in-one device. I have successfully used 2 different HP all-in-one devices (HPLIP) and I failed to utilize one of Epsons all-in-one devices which was supposed to work. I personally would discourage you from using all-in-one devices unless you care only for printing. Setting those up is a bit tricky. USB printer are seeing as ulpt devices by OpenBSD kernel. On another hand USB scanners are seeing as uscanner devices (about dozen or so) or as ugen devices in which case uscanner must be disabled in kernel. In order to be able to use all in one you will probably have to disable ulpt driver in kernel (most likely also umass driver as well) so that ugen driver gets attached to all-in-one. Removing umass driver is not a good thing to do. The all-in-one device you have use very expensive ink anyway. Get yourself a cheap monochromatic printer which speaks Post Script language or the more expensive color one if you must use color. The price of the printer will be completely offset by the price per copy. I would also recommend getting older flat bad scanner made by Epson (Make sure they are supported by sane-backends excluding Epkowa close source Linux only backend). You may contact me off the list for the help with scanner set up unless you read Serbian in which case you can follow http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/skeniranje_sane Speaking of printer configuration look at this thread in English and my (Oko) posts. http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3088 Best, Predrag P.S. If you decide you want to try your luck with Epson SX100 send me a PP and I will get you started.
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
Hello! Please check hplip library, which is OSS and -as far as i know- supported by OpenBSD. You will see that there are printers with scanning and faxing features. List is here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/combined.html Regards, Cem Predrag Punosevac, 05/26/09 01:30: Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - but does it work with OpenBSD? Thx, Chris Hi Chris, I just want to address the issue of the Epson SX100 since I belive you got very good answers regarding 3D acceleration. Scanners which are supported by sane-backends work rock stable on OpenBSD. The only exception I personally have encountered (I have probably tried two dozen scanners on OpenBSD) are HP SCSI scanners which you can probably find only in a museum anyway. The sane-backends for those use some cheap Linux hacks. The real issue here, I is that you want to use all-in-one device. I have successfully used 2 different HP all-in-one devices (HPLIP) and I failed to utilize one of Epsons all-in-one devices which was supposed to work. I personally would discourage you from using all-in-one devices unless you care only for printing. Setting those up is a bit tricky. USB printer are seeing as ulpt devices by OpenBSD kernel. On another hand USB scanners are seeing as uscanner devices (about dozen or so) or as ugen devices in which case uscanner must be disabled in kernel. In order to be able to use all in one you will probably have to disable ulpt driver in kernel (most likely also umass driver as well) so that ugen driver gets attached to all-in-one. Removing umass driver is not a good thing to do. The all-in-one device you have use very expensive ink anyway. Get yourself a cheap monochromatic printer which speaks Post Script language or the more expensive color one if you must use color. The price of the printer will be completely offset by the price per copy. I would also recommend getting older flat bad scanner made by Epson (Make sure they are supported by sane-backends excluding Epkowa close source Linux only backend). You may contact me off the list for the help with scanner set up unless you read Serbian in which case you can follow http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/skeniranje_sane Speaking of printer configuration look at this thread in English and my (Oko) posts. http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3088 Best, Predrag P.S. If you decide you want to try your luck with Epson SX100 send me a PP and I will get you started.
OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - but does it work with OpenBSD? Thx, Chris
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
Christopher Intemann wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia and ATI cards applicable. Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? There is no support for binary blob drivers, and I'd be absolutely shocked if it was even considered at any point. OpenBSD doesn't work that way. If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? Intel and some ATI cards have working DRI/DRM. See http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081029164221 Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - but does it work with OpenBSD? I can't speak to that particular printer model, but odds are very good that it will work with either lpd or CUPS when the appropriate configuration is done. Some links on printing in OpenBSD: http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2007/05/16/2200/ http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2006/08/27/1218/ http://erdelynet.com/tech/openbsd/using-foo2zjs-with-openbsd-lpd/ Thx, Chris -- Joe Gidi j...@entropicblur.com
Re: OpenBSD on the desktop / 3D acceleration / printer
sane-project.org is in the ports tree for scanning as a backend, and is the de facto scanning support project for all of unix. You won't find anything usb related different between any of the unixes here. Penned by Joe Gidi on 20090520 17:31.26, we have: | Christopher Intemann wrote: | | Hi, | I'm thinking about installing OpenBSD on my desktop workstation. | As far as I know, there are commercial (binary) drivers for some Nvidia | and | ATI cards applicable. | Do these drivers work on OpenBSD as well? | | There is no support for binary blob drivers, and I'd be absolutely shocked | if it was even considered at any point. OpenBSD doesn't work that way. | | If not, which graphics cards are supported for 3D acceleration at all? | | Intel and some ATI cards have working DRI/DRM. See | http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081029164221 | | Then, I would like to connect my USB printer/scanner (Epson SX100). | From what I've learned from google, this device should work with Linux - | but | does it work with OpenBSD? | | I can't speak to that particular printer model, but odds are very good | that it will work with either lpd or CUPS when the appropriate | configuration is done. Some links on printing in OpenBSD: | | http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2007/05/16/2200/ | http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2006/08/27/1218/ | http://erdelynet.com/tech/openbsd/using-foo2zjs-with-openbsd-lpd/ | | Thx, | Chris | | -- | Joe Gidi | j...@entropicblur.com -- Todd Fries .. t...@fries.net _ | \ 1.636.410.0632 (voice) | Free Daemon Consulting, LLC \ 1.405.227.9094 (voice) | http://FreeDaemonConsulting.com \ 1.866.792.3418 (FAX) | ..in support of free software solutions. \ 250797 (FWD) | \ \\ 37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt
