Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-12 Thread Craig Skinner
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:29:58PM -0700, Austin Hook wrote:
 Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
 recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good
 job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?
 
 North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our
 current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.
 
 Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
 English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and
 fees problem.
 

I've used the Bank of Scotland for years, not too bad...

http://www.bankofscotland.co.uk/

Apart from the web front end running on something hideous:

http://www.bankofscotlandhalifax.co.uk/online/default.asp

Smile is meant to be OK:

http://www.smile.co.uk

UK banks don't (yet) charge fees for personal accounts.

Craig.



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-12 Thread Edd Barrett
 Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either

  English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and
  fees problem.



Nationwide works great for me.  Only need a javascript enabled web browser.

Java is not required..

Regards

Edd



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-12 Thread Craig Skinner
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 
 Austin was asking for a euro zone bank.

Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe.

Many UK banks are multi-currency.



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/01/12 13:18, Craig Skinner wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
  
  Austin was asking for a euro zone bank.
 
 Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe.

euro zone != europe,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-12 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 1/12/06, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 
  Austin was asking for a euro zone bank.

 Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe.

 Many UK banks are multi-currency.

According to the EC regulation 2560/2001, cross-border transactions
within the community  take place at the same charges applicable for
transactions within a member state. Being part of the community, these
rules also apply to the UK. As of Jan. 1st, 2006, the applicable limit
to those transactions lies at 50.000 euro.

In other words: you'll want to stay away from expensive banking
countries such as Italy. A UK bank shouldn't pose any problems. In
fact, it may even be beneficial to stay in a multi-currency location.

Cheers,

Rogier

--
If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.



Re: Banking with OpenBSD (OT)

2006-01-12 Thread Dr Dominique Jacquel

Sorry for the off-topic posting but:

Although true in theory ... in practice banking with the euro zone from 
the UK is expensive. You either have to pay a premium to get a 
multi-currency account or be raped for every transaction requiring 
exchanging pounds -- euros.


An example comes to mind. I recently needed to pay 300 to a company in 
Holland. My UK bank proposed to charge me altogether #18 (that reaching 
10% of the 300) for the privilege. Paying the same amount from my 
personal French account cost me 3 in charges!! This is called rip-off 
Britain, I believe. Unless you *need* an account in #, I would 
recommend finding a bank within the euro zone.


If anybody finds a firefox friendly UK bank which allow cheap 
transactions with the euro zone, I'd be glad to hear about it :-)


Dom.

Rogier Krieger wrote:


According to the EC regulation 2560/2001, cross-border transactions
within the community  take place at the same charges applicable for
transactions within a member state. Being part of the community, these
rules also apply to the UK. As of Jan. 1st, 2006, the applicable limit
to those transactions lies at 50.000 euro.

In other words: you'll want to stay away from expensive banking
countries such as Italy. A UK bank shouldn't pose any problems. In
fact, it may even be beneficial to stay in a multi-currency location.

Cheers,

Rogier

--
If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.




Re: Banking with OpenBSD (OT)

2006-01-12 Thread Fred Crowson

Dr Dominique Jacquel wrote:
For those who think I made no sens earlier I must explain that somewhere 
along the wire between me and the list ... all my euro signs  vanished 
and all my pound sterling signs turn into hash signs! I got to be more 
careful next time.


so the story was:
UK bank wanted to charge me 18 pounds sterling to make a 300 euros payment
French bank only charged 3 euros for the same transaction (that's 10 
times less)


Dom.


Hi Dom,

I knew what you meant - and I agree if you need euros don't bank in the UK.

http://www.smile.co.uk/ work well with firefox  OpenBSD but they don't 
do the cheap IBAN inter-european banking that they should :~{


Fred
--
http://www.bristolshotokan.org.uk/



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Ioan Nemes
My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did!
And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole`
to compromise your own systems!

Ioan



 Austin Hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/01/2006 01:29:58 pm 
Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a
good
job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?

North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but
our
current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.

Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges
and
fees problem.

Thanks,

Austin
http://www.netcleanse.com



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Ted Walther

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:23:43PM +1100, Ioan Nemes wrote:

My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did!
And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole`
to compromise your own systems!


Yes, that is right.  If you read his email a bit closer, you'll see he
is asking WHICH bank to switch to.  He already wants to switch away from
his present one.

How do you pronounce your name Ioan by the way?

Ted

--
 It's not true unless it makes you laugh,   
but you don't understand it until it makes you weep.


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Address: 5690 Pioneer Ave, Burnaby, BC  V5H2X6 (Canada)
Contact: 604-430-4973



Re: Banking with OpenBSD

2006-01-11 Thread Thomas Börnert
Hi,

in german is a small good bank www.martinbank.de. They have really
no costs per month and per booking. it's the cheapest bank
in german that i know. and they have firewalls with a
very secure operating system. They will also support client
certificates in the next weeks for a much securer internet banking.
i use this with firefox without any problems.

Thomas

Am Mittwoch, den 11.01.2006, 19:29 -0700 schrieb Austin Hook:
 Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can
 recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good
 job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox?
 
 North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our
 current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft.
 
 Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either
 English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and
 fees problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Austin
 
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