Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-02-03, Giridhari giridh...@live.com.au wrote:
 I was very comfortable with pico, and nano. I am running a new system with
 multiprocessor kernel, and currently have no support for the ZTE MF626 modem I
 connect via cellular network with.

search the list archives for suggestions about the MF626.
the diff for sys/dev/usb is probably ok, the problem the person
trying it had was most likely to do with ppp configuration.

 I have tried installing the package of pico
 but it failed, so I installed it's dependencies, but pico still would not
 install because it had partially installed, would not pkg_delete (not even
 when forced), and I could not find a way to clean this up.

failed? how? this is a really poor quality bug report.
if you spent the time to write a good bug report instead of
ranting, you would have it running by now.
packages work pretty well for a lot of people.

 I fly with those. PLEASE
 INCLUDE PICO OR NANO OR BOTH IN A NEW SNAPSHOT

pico is part of pine/alpine, Apache 2 licensed, not suitable for
adding to base. nano is GPLv3 licensed, again not suitable for
adding to base.



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Scott McEachern

Giridhari wrote:

blah blah

pico or nano

blah blah

part of the distribution.

and more blah blah blah.

All that because you find 'pkg_add pico or pkg_add nano too difficult 
to type?


--

-RSM

http://www.erratic.ca



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Jesus Sanchez

El 04/02/2010 0:52, Giridhari escribis:

Hare Krsna.


From: Giridhari
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:37 AM
To: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org ; dera...@openbsd.org
Subject: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots


ATTENTION

Last night I saved a rat from certain death at the hands of a cat whose
ovaries had been cut out. This is the cutting edge of bhakti in the interests
of OpenBSD. You have been notified.

Note: The below message has been slightly adjusted to that which was sent to
dera...@theos.org.


From: Giridhari
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:28 AM
To: dera...@theos.com
Subject: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots


Hare Krsna Mr. DeRaadt.

I am trying to write a new security implementation for OpenBSD, but find vi to
be clumsy and hampering.

I was very comfortable with pico, and nano. I am running a new system with
multiprocessor kernel, and currently have no support for the ZTE MF626 modem I
connect via cellular network with. I have tried installing the package of pico
but it failed, so I installed it's dependencies, but pico still would not
install because it had partially installed, would not pkg_delete (not even
when forced), and I could not find a way to clean this up.

I would really appreciate if pico or nano, which are simple and elegant,
perhaps not with the frills vi uses apparently seem to appreciate, but simple
and natural nonetheless, we part of the distribution. I fly with those. PLEASE
INCLUDE PICO OR NANO OR BOTH IN A NEW SNAPSHOT, and from now-on, and please
overlook the apparent justifications for vi-only exclusivity, and help please.
FOR BHAKTA GIRIDHARI. Krsna is your friend. PLEASE!!! I know its is a
non-standard request, but honestly, vi is so clumsy, and I have LOTS of coding
to do, including writing support for umodem for the MF626, and I would like to
write it as a learning exercise in assembly. The new security mechanism is
brute force resilient, and it is for particularly nasty weather. Pull a
Torvaldsesque dictatorship because-I-said-so if you have to.

Hare Bol.

   


   You're loosing your time, not only for asking something like put MY
favourite s**t on YOUR system but also for using something like
pico/nano as text editor. It's the most improductive thing I've seen in
my life (comparing to vi/vim/vi-clones). What makes vi/Vim editors so
clumsy and hampering it's the same that makes Photoshop better
than MSpaint: design with productivity in mind.

   In the worst case you can make your own iso with pino/nano/whatever
in it, but seriously, if I were you, I would learn how to use vi/Vim
editors ASAP, it's in ALL unix-like systems, use vi, and you will never
have to use another text editor in your life.

By the way, this was written using Vim.
-J



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread mehma sarja
He's not asking you to do it, it is all up to the LordKrsna in this
case.

Mehma
===

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@erratic.ca wrote:

 Giridhari wrote:

 blah blah

 pico or nano

 blah blah

 part of the distribution.

 and more blah blah blah.

 All that because you find 'pkg_add pico or pkg_add nano too difficult to
 type?

 --

 -RSM

 http://www.erratic.ca



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Scott Learmonth
I've been avoiding this OP, but I guess I'll weigh in now.

This smells like roe. Don't feed it.


On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:54:07AM +0100, Jesus Sanchez wrote:
 El 04/02/2010 0:52, Giridhari escribis:
 Hare Krsna.
 
 
 From: Giridhari
 Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:37 AM
 To: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org ; dera...@openbsd.org
 Subject: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots
 
 
 ATTENTION
 
 Last night I saved a rat from certain death at the hands of a cat whose
 ovaries had been cut out. This is the cutting edge of bhakti in the interests
 of OpenBSD. You have been notified.
 
 Note: The below message has been slightly adjusted to that which was sent to
 dera...@theos.org.
 
 
 From: Giridhari
 Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:28 AM
 To: dera...@theos.com
 Subject: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots
 
 
 Hare Krsna Mr. DeRaadt.
 
 I am trying to write a new security implementation for OpenBSD, but find vi 
 to
 be clumsy and hampering.
 
 I was very comfortable with pico, and nano. I am running a new system with
 multiprocessor kernel, and currently have no support for the ZTE MF626 modem 
 I
 connect via cellular network with. I have tried installing the package of 
 pico
 but it failed, so I installed it's dependencies, but pico still would not
 install because it had partially installed, would not pkg_delete (not even
 when forced), and I could not find a way to clean this up.
 
 I would really appreciate if pico or nano, which are simple and elegant,
 perhaps not with the frills vi uses apparently seem to appreciate, but simple
 and natural nonetheless, we part of the distribution. I fly with those. 
 PLEASE
 INCLUDE PICO OR NANO OR BOTH IN A NEW SNAPSHOT, and from now-on, and please
 overlook the apparent justifications for vi-only exclusivity, and help 
 please.
 FOR BHAKTA GIRIDHARI. Krsna is your friend. PLEASE!!! I know its is a
 non-standard request, but honestly, vi is so clumsy, and I have LOTS of 
 coding
 to do, including writing support for umodem for the MF626, and I would like 
 to
 write it as a learning exercise in assembly. The new security mechanism is
 brute force resilient, and it is for particularly nasty weather. Pull a
 Torvaldsesque dictatorship because-I-said-so if you have to.
 
 Hare Bol.
 
 
You're loosing your time, not only for asking something like put MY
 favourite s**t on YOUR system but also for using something like
 pico/nano as text editor. It's the most improductive thing I've seen in
 my life (comparing to vi/vim/vi-clones). What makes vi/Vim editors so
 clumsy and hampering it's the same that makes Photoshop better
 than MSpaint: design with productivity in mind.
 
In the worst case you can make your own iso with pino/nano/whatever
 in it, but seriously, if I were you, I would learn how to use vi/Vim
 editors ASAP, it's in ALL unix-like systems, use vi, and you will never
 have to use another text editor in your life.
 
 By the way, this was written using Vim.
 -J



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
Wow this easily is the best troll of the year so far.

On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:52:32AM +1100, Giridhari wrote:
 Hare Krsna.
 
 
 From: Giridhari
 Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:37 AM
 To: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org ; dera...@openbsd.org
 Subject: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots
 
 
 ATTENTION
 
 Last night I saved a rat from certain death at the hands of a cat whose
 ovaries had been cut out. This is the cutting edge of bhakti in the interests
 of OpenBSD. You have been notified.
 
 Note: The below message has been slightly adjusted to that which was sent to
 dera...@theos.org.
 
 
 From: Giridhari
 Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:28 AM
 To: dera...@theos.com
 Subject: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots
 
 
 Hare Krsna Mr. DeRaadt.
 
 I am trying to write a new security implementation for OpenBSD, but find vi to
 be clumsy and hampering.
 
 I was very comfortable with pico, and nano. I am running a new system with
 multiprocessor kernel, and currently have no support for the ZTE MF626 modem I
 connect via cellular network with. I have tried installing the package of pico
 but it failed, so I installed it's dependencies, but pico still would not
 install because it had partially installed, would not pkg_delete (not even
 when forced), and I could not find a way to clean this up.
 
 I would really appreciate if pico or nano, which are simple and elegant,
 perhaps not with the frills vi uses apparently seem to appreciate, but simple
 and natural nonetheless, we part of the distribution. I fly with those. PLEASE
 INCLUDE PICO OR NANO OR BOTH IN A NEW SNAPSHOT, and from now-on, and please
 overlook the apparent justifications for vi-only exclusivity, and help please.
 FOR BHAKTA GIRIDHARI. Krsna is your friend. PLEASE!!! I know its is a
 non-standard request, but honestly, vi is so clumsy, and I have LOTS of coding
 to do, including writing support for umodem for the MF626, and I would like to
 write it as a learning exercise in assembly. The new security mechanism is
 brute force resilient, and it is for particularly nasty weather. Pull a
 Torvaldsesque dictatorship because-I-said-so if you have to.
 
 Hare Bol.



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 07:06:49PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
 Wow this easily is the best troll of the year so far.

really?  to me it looks like someone was trying to be funny and totally
failed.  I give it a two thumbs down.

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Bennett

Giridhari wrote:

Hare Krsna.


From: Giridhari
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:37 AM
To: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org ; dera...@openbsd.org
Subject: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots


ATTENTION

Last night I saved a rat from certain death at the hands of a cat whose
ovaries had been cut out. This is the cutting edge of bhakti in the interests
of OpenBSD. You have been notified.

Note: The below message has been slightly adjusted to that which was sent to
dera...@theos.org.


From: Giridhari
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:28 AM
To: dera...@theos.com
Subject: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots


Hare Krsna Mr. DeRaadt.

I am trying to write a new security implementation for OpenBSD, but find vi to
be clumsy and hampering.

I was very comfortable with pico, and nano. I am running a new system with
multiprocessor kernel, and currently have no support for the ZTE MF626 modem I
connect via cellular network with. I have tried installing the package of pico
but it failed, so I installed it's dependencies, but pico still would not
install because it had partially installed, would not pkg_delete (not even
when forced), and I could not find a way to clean this up.

I would really appreciate if pico or nano, which are simple and elegant,
perhaps not with the frills vi uses apparently seem to appreciate, but simple
and natural nonetheless, we part of the distribution. 

I agree, vi is terribly complicated and confusing to use.
That is way I have always found ed to be a wonderful editor
It is in the base and ALWAYS works even under the most terrifying and 
frightening conditions.


Long Live ED!

I fly with those. PLEASE
INCLUDE PICO OR NANO OR BOTH IN A NEW SNAPSHOT, and from now-on, and please
overlook the apparent justifications for vi-only exclusivity, and help please.
FOR BHAKTA GIRIDHARI. Krsna is your friend. PLEASE!!! I know its is a
non-standard request, but honestly, vi is so clumsy, and I have LOTS of coding
to do, including writing support for umodem for the MF626, and I would like to
write it as a learning exercise in assembly. The new security mechanism is
brute force resilient, and it is for particularly nasty weather. Pull a
Torvaldsesque dictatorship because-I-said-so if you have to.

Hare Bol.


  


--
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
  -- Robert Heinlein



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Aaron Mason
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Scott McEachern sc...@erratic.ca wrote:
 Giridhari wrote:

 blah blah

 pico or nano

 blah blah

 part of the distribution.

 and more blah blah blah.

 All that because you find 'pkg_add pico or pkg_add nano too difficult to
 type?

 --

 -RSM

 http://www.erratic.ca



Or not be an arse and learn vi.

Giridhari,

I once thought like you did.  Then I discovered a wonderful resource -
a mug that is sold by ThinkGeek.  It has all of the commands you could
hope to need, and how to use them.  The graphic that's used on the cup
is freely downloadable, so you can blow it up to A3 and stick it on
the wall behind your computer for easy reference.

Believe me, learning how to use vi will save you a lot of headaches in
the long run.

-- 
Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict
I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse



Re: Fw: pico and/or nano in the releases and snapshots

2010-02-03 Thread Brynet
Hello,

While you're likely a troll, you may just be some sad religious zealot
ranting on a mailing list.

If you're not fond of vi(1), you may be interested in mg(1).. while it's
not exactly the same as pico or nano, it's not that far off.

Keep it off the lists next time,
-Bryan.