Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?
On Jan 22 23:31:36, mih...@gmail.com wrote: > > I do think that using quemu is a good (and "simple") way to go for me > > because: > > > > - I have qemu installed on my box for other reasons > > - one only needs an attached cf card and a current version of install.iso > > (no CD \ > > burning or laptop reboot required) > >- with qemu the install to cf can happen alongside other tasks within my > >usual work \ > > environment (e.g. browsing, word processing, etc) Hasn't this been discussed here many times already? Just do a standard install to the CF as if it was any other disk (which it is).
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mihai Popescu wrote: >> I do think that using quemu is a good (and "simple") way to go for me >> because: >> >> - I have qemu installed on my box for other reasons >> - one only needs an attached cf card and a current version of install.iso >> (no CD \ >> burning or laptop reboot required) >>- with qemu the install to cf can happen alongside other tasks within my >>usual work \ >> environment (e.g. browsing, word processing, etc) > > Yeah, this is valid until qemu guys will change some switch again and > you will be here posting 2 ways that worked before and are not working > anymore ... > I didn't install OpenBSD on a flash device until now, but I do > remember the times Nick said to install like this flash is a normal > disk and to avoid using any third party methods. Hopeless. > Easiest method I've found is to run up a disk image with just boot and bsd.rd (add an /etc/boot.conf if you need to configure it to use a serial console), then dump it on the CF card. Perform install using http as the source. Job done. -- Aaron Mason - Programmer, open source addict I've taken my software vows - for beta or for worse
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?
> I do think that using quemu is a good (and "simple") way to go for me because: > > - I have qemu installed on my box for other reasons > - one only needs an attached cf card and a current version of install.iso (no > CD \ > burning or laptop reboot required) >- with qemu the install to cf can happen alongside other tasks within my usual >work \ > environment (e.g. browsing, word processing, etc) Yeah, this is valid until qemu guys will change some switch again and you will be here posting 2 ways that worked before and are not working anymore ... I didn't install OpenBSD on a flash device until now, but I do remember the times Nick said to install like this flash is a normal disk and to avoid using any third party methods. Hopeless.
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?
On 01/20/13 20:19, Sarah Caswell wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the replies to my call for help. The soekris install command that worked was: shell# sudo qemu-system-i386 -hda /dev/rsd1c -cdrom install52.iso -boot d Turns out I was not using the raw device (/dev/rsd1c) in my command but was trying to install /dev/sd0c. I think you're mixing things up here (sd0 vs sd1). Also, you actually claimed to have used /dev/sd0i, which, while likely being some MSDOS partition, could be just anywhere on the disk. I would have expected /dev/sd1c to work too, but indeed the raw device should be the way to go. /Alexander
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?
Hi all, Thanks for all the replies to my call for help. The soekris install command that worked was: shell# sudo qemu-system-i386 -hda /dev/rsd1c -cdrom install52.iso -boot d Turns out I was not using the raw device (/dev/rsd1c) in my command but was trying to install /dev/sd0c. -- Thanks also to Nick Holland for suggesting some alternative ways to install OBSD on Soekris that one might also call simple. I'll definitely try them. I do think that using quemu is a good (and "simple") way to go for me because: - I have qemu installed on my box for other reasons - one only needs an attached cf card and a current version of install.iso (no CD burning or laptop reboot required) - with qemu the install to cf can happen alongside other tasks within my usual work environment (e.g. browsing, word processing, etc) Thanks again. :-) Sarah > > Hi all, > > > > I'm having a frustrating problem getting OpenBSD-current (or > > snapshot) to run on my Soekris net5501. > > > > With previous versions of OBSD I was able to use qemu to install to a > > compact flashcard directly, by connecting the flashcard to my laptop > > and then starting qemu like so: > > > > sudo qemu -hda /dev/sd0i -cdrom install52.iso -boot d (and many > > variations of this command mostly pertaining to the /dev/sd0 > > section) > > funny definition of "directly". > ... > > P.S.: I know there are other ways to get OpenBSD running on a > > Soekris but I've always liked the utter simplicity of the qemu-based > > install. > > using an emulator = simple? > If you don't understand the tools well enough to troubleshoot the problem, I > really \ > don't believe your assessment there. I don't know much about qemu, but I see > a \ > problem in the command line. > This is what *I* call simple: > Take your USB flash card reader to a free machine with a USB port. Put an > OpenBSD \ > CD in it. Boot off CD. Install to CF device. Use DUIDs. Create a \ > /etc/hostname.vr0 (or whatever your soekris uses for its primary NIC), and do > other \ > network configuration as needed. Put flash device in Soekris. Done. > "direct", \ > "simple", bare minimum of extra tools. Machine doesn't even have to be able > to \ > boot from the USB port, though you can't test it before installing on soekris > if it \ > isn't. > (variation: install bare minimum system on flash drive, move to Soekris, at > the \ > boot> prompt, tell it bsd.rd and re-install exactly as you wish. If *I* were > doing \ > that, I could do it from an installed OpenBSD machine of the same platform > without \ > taking down the machine or booting from a CD. I'd call that simple, but I \ > understand some basic tools that we try to keep normal people from having to > use. \ > The info for figuring out how to do that is all in the OpenBSD FAQ, though > not in \ > recipe form.) > Nick. -- "I Cannot Do All the Good that the World Needs, But the World Needs All the Good That I Can Do"--Jana Stanfield
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?.
I just upgrade in place via bsd.rd on my net4501. Guess I could do the other methods as well. Sent form my iFoe. On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:59, Nick Holland wrote: > On 01/14/2013 10:15 AM, Sarah Caswell wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having a frustrating problem getting OpenBSD-current (or >> snapshot) to run on my Soekris net5501. >> >> With previous versions of OBSD I was able to use qemu to install to a >> compact flashcard directly, by connecting the flashcard to my laptop >> and then starting qemu like so: >> >> sudo qemu -hda /dev/sd0i -cdrom install52.iso -boot d (and many >> variations of this command mostly pertaining to the /dev/sd0 >> section) > > funny definition of "directly". > ... >> P.S.: I know there are other ways to get OpenBSD running on a >> Soekris but I've always liked the utter simplicity of the qemu-based >> install. > > using an emulator = simple? > If you don't understand the tools well enough to troubleshoot the problem, I > really don't believe your assessment there. I don't know much about qemu, but > I see a problem in the command line. > > This is what *I* call simple: > Take your USB flash card reader to a free machine with a USB port. Put an > OpenBSD CD in it. Boot off CD. Install to CF device. Use DUIDs. Create a > /etc/hostname.vr0 (or whatever your soekris uses for its primary NIC), and do > other network configuration as needed. Put flash device in Soekris. Done. > "direct", "simple", bare minimum of extra tools. Machine doesn't even have > to be able to boot from the USB port, though you can't test it before > installing on soekris if it isn't. > > (variation: install bare minimum system on flash drive, move to Soekris, at > the boot> prompt, tell it bsd.rd and re-install exactly as you wish. If *I* > were doing that, I could do it from an installed OpenBSD machine of the same > platform without taking down the machine or booting from a CD. I'd call that > simple, but I understand some basic tools that we try to keep normal people > from having to use. The info for figuring out how to do that is all in the > OpenBSD FAQ, though not in recipe form.) > > Nick.
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?.
On 01/14/2013 10:15 AM, Sarah Caswell wrote: Hi all, I'm having a frustrating problem getting OpenBSD-current (or snapshot) to run on my Soekris net5501. With previous versions of OBSD I was able to use qemu to install to a compact flashcard directly, by connecting the flashcard to my laptop and then starting qemu like so: sudo qemu -hda /dev/sd0i -cdrom install52.iso -boot d (and many variations of this command mostly pertaining to the /dev/sd0 section) funny definition of "directly". ... P.S.: I know there are other ways to get OpenBSD running on a Soekris but I've always liked the utter simplicity of the qemu-based install. using an emulator = simple? If you don't understand the tools well enough to troubleshoot the problem, I really don't believe your assessment there. I don't know much about qemu, but I see a problem in the command line. This is what *I* call simple: Take your USB flash card reader to a free machine with a USB port. Put an OpenBSD CD in it. Boot off CD. Install to CF device. Use DUIDs. Create a /etc/hostname.vr0 (or whatever your soekris uses for its primary NIC), and do other network configuration as needed. Put flash device in Soekris. Done. "direct", "simple", bare minimum of extra tools. Machine doesn't even have to be able to boot from the USB port, though you can't test it before installing on soekris if it isn't. (variation: install bare minimum system on flash drive, move to Soekris, at the boot> prompt, tell it bsd.rd and re-install exactly as you wish. If *I* were doing that, I could do it from an installed OpenBSD machine of the same platform without taking down the machine or booting from a CD. I'd call that simple, but I understand some basic tools that we try to keep normal people from having to use. The info for figuring out how to do that is all in the OpenBSD FAQ, though not in recipe form.) Nick.
Re: Still possible to get OpenBSD onto Soekris net5501 via qemu install to flashcard?.
Hi. Quoting Sarah Caswell : Hi all, I'm having a frustrating problem getting OpenBSD-current (or snapshot) to run on my Soekris net5501. With previous versions of OBSD I was able to use qemu to install to a compact flashcard directly, by connecting the flashcard to my laptop and then starting qemu like so: sudo qemu -hda /dev/sd0i -cdrom install52.iso -boot d (and many variations of this command mostly pertaining to the /dev/sd0 section) Yeah this looks wrong, I think you need the raw device (rsd0), or at least the whole disc, not partition. I installed OpenBSD on Soekris using Qemu just a week ago and it worked fine. Although I prepared the USB stick outside of OpenBSD. I have 2G flash drive myself: # df -hi Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/wd0a 1.9G509M1.3G28% 23502 236336 9% / I'm basically following the process described here: http://blog.spoofed.org/2007/12/openbsd-on-soekris-cheaters-guide.html In the past (~ OpenBSD 4.x) that was a piece of cake and my Soekris boxen worked right away but now with the 5.x releases I've tried the install aborts with a Kernel panic just before base52.tgz is fully downloaded or fetched from ISO. The panic message says that inodes are in use already. However that makes no sense to me since the panic occurs during package download AND I always used new fresh compact flash cards. The install program extracts the sets on-the-fly. This sounds more like a disk problem than anything related to Soekris. Check your disks after formatting by escaping to shell with "!" or directly with "!dh -i". Am I missing something obvious? I thought I wasn't a newbie, but this is making me rethink that notion. Any thoughts or insights would be welcome. :-) Sarah P.S.: I know there are other ways to get OpenBSD running on a Soekris but I've always liked the utter simplicity of the qemu-based install.
