Re: videos in the browser
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: with a recent configuration, videos work fine in the browser. *however* a lot of websites still give you only flash videos. Or do they ? There's this nifty extension in chrome to fudge the user-agent (called user-agent switcher) where you can play at browsing from a tablet. Surprise: those video sites work again (in some cases, you have to fight a bit more, go explicitly to the mobile version and not let them switch you back to the desktop mode). This[1] also works fine for many of the most famous video websites... [1] http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en Ciao! David -- If you try a few times and give up, you'll never get there. But if you keep at it... There's a lot of problems in the world which can really be solved by applying two or three times the persistence that other people will. -- Stewart Nelson
Re: videos in the browser
Great idea. I think it would help if we all use the same destination email addresses as in big companies there are plenty of different points of contact and if each one of them only gets 1 or 2 emails we will likely remain unheard. Marc can you please share the email addresses you used to reach out to Facebook and Youtube? On 19 September 2014 13:48, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: with a recent configuration, videos work fine in the browser. *however* a lot of websites still give you only flash videos. Or do they ? There's this nifty extension in chrome to fudge the user-agent (called user-agent switcher) where you can play at browsing from a tablet. Surprise: those video sites work again (in some cases, you have to fight a bit more, go explicitly to the mobile version and not let them switch you back to the desktop mode). It's obvious those guys aren't testing on OpenBSD. It's also obvious they know how to switch to a non flash version on given user-agents. So what about a little mail your favorite website campaign. Figure out one website where you can't watch videos, and send some kind of email feedback to them. Tell them in no uncertain terms that flash does not exist on OpenBSD, and if they see OpenBSD in the user-agent, then they should go to plain h264 videos, which they have. Offenders include youtube (sometimes, mostly VEVO stuff), wimp.com, facebook. Probably some others. I don't think they will notice if I'm the only guy doing that. But if they get a few pointed emails over the coming weeks, maybe they might fix their act, and hey, maybe we'll get videos mostly everywhere... -- The best the little guy can do is what the little guy does right
Re: videos in the browser
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:55:59PM +0200, David Coppa wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: with a recent configuration, videos work fine in the browser. *however* a lot of websites still give you only flash videos. Or do they ? There's this nifty extension in chrome to fudge the user-agent (called user-agent switcher) where you can play at browsing from a tablet. Surprise: those video sites work again (in some cases, you have to fight a bit more, go explicitly to the mobile version and not let them switch you back to the desktop mode). This[1] also works fine for many of the most famous video websites... [1] http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en David, please do another thread if you want to discuss that. There are lots of hackish solutions to get videos on openbsd anyway. The point here is to try to get more things working out of the box by asking the sites and telling them there are OpenBSD users out there that would like to get videos just working.
Re: videos in the browser
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:57:34PM +0300, Eugene Yunak wrote: Great idea. I think it would help if we all use the same destination email addresses as in big companies there are plenty of different points of contact and if each one of them only gets 1 or 2 emails we will likely remain unheard. Marc can you please share the email addresses you used to reach out to Facebook and Youtube? I just used their standard feedback contact form.
Re: videos in the browser
Hi, I don't think that any web developer care OpenBSD because OpenBSD doesn't have graphical browser in base system. They don't care even if 1000 OpenBSD users complain. Flash material will disappear from web less than three years and Flash videos will get replaced by Mpeg-4 AVC and WebM. I personally think that OpenBSD should embrace HTML5/ECMA Script by adding Web component + minimalistic browser around it to the base system in some point of future. Major reason for this is that web has become both defacto and dejure technology for graphical remote use and also it is standard way to create GUI. X clients are legacy today. This is even possible to do, because needed software components are almost completely available in BSD licenses. After all, I think top secure system should also allow running applications in secured manner, but it may cause challenges to avoid security holes.
Re: videos in the browser
As a webdeveloper, I don't care what you think. I have strong suspicion OpenBSD devs don't care either. On 19 September 2014 15:36, Matti Karnaattu mkarnaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't think that any web developer care OpenBSD because OpenBSD doesn't have graphical browser in base system. They don't care even if 1000 OpenBSD users complain. Flash material will disappear from web less than three years and Flash videos will get replaced by Mpeg-4 AVC and WebM. I personally think that OpenBSD should embrace HTML5/ECMA Script by adding Web component + minimalistic browser around it to the base system in some point of future. Major reason for this is that web has become both defacto and dejure technology for graphical remote use and also it is standard way to create GUI. X clients are legacy today. This is even possible to do, because needed software components are almost completely available in BSD licenses. After all, I think top secure system should also allow running applications in secured manner, but it may cause challenges to avoid security holes. -- The best the little guy can do is what the little guy does right
Re: videos in the browser
I'll get the popcorns. On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 PM, Matti Karnaattu mkarnaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't think that any web developer care OpenBSD because OpenBSD doesn't have graphical browser in base system. They don't care even if 1000 OpenBSD users complain. Flash material will disappear from web less than three years and Flash videos will get replaced by Mpeg-4 AVC and WebM. I personally think that OpenBSD should embrace HTML5/ECMA Script by adding Web component + minimalistic browser around it to the base system in some point of future. Major reason for this is that web has become both defacto and dejure technology for graphical remote use and also it is standard way to create GUI. X clients are legacy today. This is even possible to do, because needed software components are almost completely available in BSD licenses. After all, I think top secure system should also allow running applications in secured manner, but it may cause challenges to avoid security holes.
