Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:33:25PM +0200, Eric Dillenseger wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. I have a Dell 20 inch monitor and it works fine with it's native 1680x1050. I had to tweak the Modeline manually but eventually got it to work. On a oldish S3 card though. But it just might work for you too. Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL 2007WFP #HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 #VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED] 119.0 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 -HSync +VSync EndSection Monitor timing/sync is hardware specific and in some cases, if you get it wrong, you can do permanent damage to your monitor. Use gtf(1) to probe your hardware to figure out timings/sync for your desired resolution/refresh, and then do a sanity check of the reported values against the hardware documentation. Hi, Now I have it working with the right resolution, but I can't go over 16bit colors. My photos don't look very good but at least it works for most common tasks. Or perhaps it isn't even 16, anyway. I'm wondering why X doesn't handle 24 bit, even with videoram defined. -- Linux is for Windows(c) haters while BSD is for UNIX lovers. http://teardrop.free.fr/ I'm using a Dell 2405FPW with an on-board Intel 82915G/P/GV graphic adapter under OpenBSD 3.9 without issue. Newer displays will automatically report their capabilities; have you tried running X without a config file? -Damian
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Monday 02 April 2007 09:33, Eric Dillenseger wrote: On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. I have a Dell 20 inch monitor and it works fine with it's native 1680x1050. I had to tweak the Modeline manually but eventually got it to work. On a oldish S3 card though. But it just might work for you too. Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL 2007WFP #HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 #VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED] 119.0 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 -HSync +VSync EndSection Monitor timing/sync is hardware specific and in some cases, if you get it wrong, you can do permanent damage to your monitor. Use gtf(1) to probe your hardware to figure out timings/sync for your desired resolution/refresh, and then do a sanity check of the reported values against the hardware documentation. Hi, Now I have it working with the right resolution, but I can't go over 16bit colors. My photos don't look very good but at least it works for most common tasks. Or perhaps it isn't even 16, anyway. I'm wondering why X doesn't handle 24 bit, even with videoram defined. Weird... X can handle 24 bit color just fine. My first guess is your graphics card (the oldish s3 you mentioned), doesn't have the muscle to power both the high resolution *and* the 24 bit color depth, so X is smartly lowering the color count when the card complains. There are a lot of odd resolutions which monitor vendors use which are not necessarily fully supported by graphics card vendors. For example your graphics card might support 1600x1000 resolution at 85Mhz with 24-bit color but if you try 1601x1000 resolution at 85MHz with 24-bit color, the graphics card will either not work at all, or it will downgrade the MHz or color depth. Your monitor wants to use one of these odd resolutions, namely 1680x1050. It can be a pain in the ass to figure out what will work and you will need to read the documentation for both your monitor and your graphics card to figure out exactly what each will support. kind regards, jcr
Re: Widescreen flat panel
Now I have it working with the right resolution, but I can't go over 16bit colors. My photos don't look very good but at least it works for most common tasks. Or perhaps it isn't even 16, anyway. I'm wondering why X doesn't handle 24 bit, even with videoram defined. Weird... X can handle 24 bit color just fine. My oldish Radeon 9000 series PCI card is working ok with 1680x1050x24, you can probably find something that will support this from a junk pile or ebay for not much money.
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 10:44:46AM -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. I have a Dell 20 inch monitor and it works fine with it's native 1680x1050. I had to tweak the Modeline manually but eventually got it to work. On a oldish S3 card though. But it just might work for you too. Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL 2007WFP #HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 #VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED] 119.0 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 -HSync +VSync EndSection Monitor timing/sync is hardware specific and in some cases, if you get it wrong, you can do permanent damage to your monitor. Use gtf(1) to probe your hardware to figure out timings/sync for your desired resolution/refresh, and then do a sanity check of the reported values against the hardware documentation. Hi, Now I have it working with the right resolution, but I can't go over 16bit colors. My photos don't look very good but at least it works for most common tasks. Or perhaps it isn't even 16, anyway. I'm wondering why X doesn't handle 24 bit, even with videoram defined. -- Linux is for Windows(c) haters while BSD is for UNIX lovers. http://teardrop.free.fr/
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. I have a Dell 20 inch monitor and it works fine with it's native 1680x1050. I had to tweak the Modeline manually but eventually got it to work. On a oldish S3 card though. But it just might work for you too. Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL 2007WFP #HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 #VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED] 119.0 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 -HSync +VSync EndSection
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Sunday 01 April 2007 09:22, Srebrenko Sehic wrote: On 3/31/07, Eric Dillenseger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. I have a Dell 20 inch monitor and it works fine with it's native 1680x1050. I had to tweak the Modeline manually but eventually got it to work. On a oldish S3 card though. But it just might work for you too. Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL 2007WFP #HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 #VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine[EMAIL PROTECTED] 119.0 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 -HSync +VSync EndSection Monitor timing/sync is hardware specific and in some cases, if you get it wrong, you can do permanent damage to your monitor. Use gtf(1) to probe your hardware to figure out timings/sync for your desired resolution/refresh, and then do a sanity check of the reported values against the hardware documentation.
Re: Widescreen flat panel
Hi, I made several tests, again, with no success. I've noticed that using 'Option FlatPanel' in xorg.conf makes X fail to find a suitable mode. Whenever I have a display working, xrandr indicates a 1600x??? or 1680x1200. Below is the xrandr output: SZ:Pixels Physical Refresh 0 1600 x 1200 ( 474mm x 302mm ) 65 60 1 1680 x 1050 ( 474mm x 302mm ) 60 2 1400 x 1050 ( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 60 3 1280 x 1024 ( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 60 4 1280 x 960( 474mm x 302mm ) 60 5 1152 x 864( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 6 1024 x 768( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 70 60 7832 x 624( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 8800 x 600( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 72 65 60 56 9700 x 525( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 60 10 640 x 512( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 60 11 640 x 480( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 73 60 12 576 x 432( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 13 512 x 384( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 70 60 14 416 x 312( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 15 400 x 300( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 72 60 56 16 320 x 240( 474mm x 302mm ) 75 73 60 *17 1680 x 1200 ( 474mm x 302mm ) *65 Current rotation - normal Current reflection - none Rotations possible - normal Reflections possible - none Every modeline tried has failed except the one I'm using actually, made with EDID info, wich is operating at 1680x1200. I tried on linux, it worked out of the box. I still need to check the content of Xorg.0.log on linux to see if it differs. -- Linux is for Windows(c) haters while BSD is for UNIX lovers. http://teardrop.free.fr/
Widescreen flat panel
Hi, I just bought a 22 inches 16/10 flat panel. Saddly, I can't get in the native resolution (1680x1050). I was wondering if a recent (4.1 snapshot of March 23rd) nv driver of X is already able to handle such mode, as I found out it may be the bottleneck. I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. -- Linux is for Windows(c) haters while BSD is for UNIX lovers. http://teardrop.free.fr/
Re: Widescreen flat panel
xinit -- -logverbose 9 -verbose 9 send the EDID info? Try a liveCD that that has the 'nvidia' binary driver and see if they have support yet, it may be a simple hack. ~BAS On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 18:46 +0200, Eric Dillenseger wrote: Hi, I just bought a 22 inches 16/10 flat panel. Saddly, I can't get in the native resolution (1680x1050). I was wondering if a recent (4.1 snapshot of March 23rd) nv driver of X is already able to handle such mode, as I found out it may be the bottleneck. I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out.
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 12:53:56PM -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: xinit -- -logverbose 9 -verbose 9 send the EDID info? Try a liveCD that that has the 'nvidia' binary driver and see if they have support yet, it may be a simple hack. ~BAS On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 18:46 +0200, Eric Dillenseger wrote: Hi, I just bought a 22 inches 16/10 flat panel. Saddly, I can't get in the native resolution (1680x1050). I was wondering if a recent (4.1 snapshot of March 23rd) nv driver of X is already able to handle such mode, as I found out it may be the bottleneck. I tried different ModeLine generators from the net, and tried to do it myself using Xorg' logfile. Not helping me out. Well, I tried differents settings and got one that is quite working, screen width is 1680 but height is more than 1050, and I can scroll the display up and down. Maybe 1600x1200. I'm using the following setup: Section Monitor # DisplaySize 470 300 Identifier Monitor0 VendorName BNQ ModelNameBenQ FP222W ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync30.0 - 82.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS ModeLine1680x1050 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 +hsync + EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver nv VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1680x1050 EndSubSection EndSection And this is the relevant part of the Xorg.0.log: (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Chipset GeForce FX 5200 found (II) NV(0): Initializing int10 (--) NV(0): Chipset: GeForce FX 5200 (II) NV(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section Screen0 for depth/fbbpp 16/16 (==) NV(0): Depth 16, (==) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) NV(0): RGB weight 565 (==) NV(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NV(0): Using HW cursor (--) NV(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD800 (--) NV(0): MMIO registers at 0xE000 (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xe000,0x100) was already clear (II) NV(0): I2C bus DDC initialized. (II) NV(0): Probing for analog device on output A... (--) NV(0): ...found one (II) NV(0): Probing for analog device on output B... (--) NV(0): ...can't find one (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus A... (II) NV(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 registered at address 0xA0. (II) NV(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 removed. (--) NV(0): DDC detected a CRT: (II) NV(0): Manufacturer: BNQ Model: 7707 Serial#: 16800 (II) NV(0): Year: 2007 Week: 3 (II) NV(0): EDID Version: 1.3 (II) NV(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V (II) NV(0): Sync: Separate Composite (II) NV(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 47 vert.: 30 (II) NV(0): Gamma: 2.20 (II) NV(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display (II) NV(0): Default color space is primary color space (II) NV(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) NV(0): redX: 0.644 redY: 0.332 greenX: 0.288 greenY: 0.601 (II) NV(0): blueX: 0.153 blueY: 0.077 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) NV(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 75 vid: 20293 (II) NV(0): #1: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 75 vid: 20321 (II) NV(0): #3: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) NV(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 75 vid: 36737 (II) NV(0): #5: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337 (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 146.2 MHz Image Size: 433 x 271 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1784 h_sync_end 1960 h_blank_end 2240 h_bor (II) NV(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: 1089 v_bor (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) NV(0): clock: 25.2 MHz Image Size: 376 x 301 mm (II) NV(0): h_active: 640 h_sync: 656 h_sync_end 752 h_blank_end 800 h_border: (II) NV(0): v_active: 350 v_sync: 387 v_sync_end 389 v_blanking: 449 v_border: (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 76 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 84 kHz, PixClock (II) NV(0): Monitor name: BenQ FP222W (II) NV(0): Probing for EDID on I2C bus B... (II) NV(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 registered at address 0xA0. (II) NV(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 removed. (II) NV(0): ... none found (--) NV(0): CRTC 0 appears to have a CRT attached (II) NV(0):
Re: Widescreen flat panel
DDC/EDID can be a killjoy. I want to say that there was an Option NoEDID true ~~BAS On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 21:09 +0200, Eric Dillenseger wrote: (II) NV(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED] (II) NV(0): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Widescreen flat panel
On Saturday 31 March 2007, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: DDC/EDID can be a killjoy. I want to say that there was an Option NoEDID true As an aside (in case it helps anyone). Using the nVidia binary under Linux I have to set: Option ModeValidationNoMaxPClkCheck in order to use the digital out to drive my widescreen monitor. Turning off EDID totally does not work. Chris
