Re: X on Compact Flash
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 11:51:44PM +1000, Steve wrote: > >You can't easily buy 16M CF devices anymore. 512M will probably do > >the job. > >If starting a new project, start with 3.9, as things got a lot bigger due > >to the addition of debugging symbols in libraries. Might have to > >leave out > >the compXX file set, not much desire to compile from source on flash > >anyway. > >Nick. I never tried release (8), maybe i will install my soekris box again and do some testing. I have an installation on a laptop with source, i patched everything and builded everything on it. And i have the soekris box, where i mount src and obj with nfs. Then i did only a make install, worked without problems. Next time i will try everything without installing compXX.tgz on the cf card, with mounting the dir with the stuff i need for compiling ... make ... If someone thinks that is a good idea or that it is total waste of time, please let me know. I am a little paranoid about this things, i always think i missed some special or really important points. > No didnt miss it. Just wanted to keep the costs as low as possible. I > was guessing however that I was going to require at least a couple > of gigs of flash. Hmm 512 mb or 1 gb are not this expensive, in Germany, between 30 and 60 euro, sorry i do not know much this is in dollars. Maybe you can get them much cheaper on ebay. By the way i think getting an adapter from ide to cf is a very good thing, if you want to do installs on cf cards more then once or twice a year. ;) I tried it with usb cardreaders and it took about 2 minutes to know that they are crap. I had some hours in trying, screaming and trying it again to get it on my cf card, pc hardware is very ... lets say ... special in some cases. With the adapter it is like installing on a harddisk, very clean, fast and stable. Just some thoughts. -- gruesse joerg "joerch" buechner -- "Kaum macht mans richtig, schon funktionierts!" (busack thomas) --
Re: X on Compact Flash
Nick Holland wrote: Steve wrote: Hi all, I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as a thin term for a windows terminal server. I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. as they were designed for tiny, non-X setups, I'd be surprised if they did. Am I missing something or are there alternatives. You seem to be missing the obvious: Install OpenBSD normally on a sufficient sized flash media. What is wrong with this solution? You can't easily buy 16M CF devices anymore. 512M will probably do the job. If starting a new project, start with 3.9, as things got a lot bigger due to the addition of debugging symbols in libraries. Might have to leave out the compXX file set, not much desire to compile from source on flash anyway. Nick. Thanks all, No didnt miss it. Just wanted to keep the costs as low as possible. I was guessing however that I was going to require at least a couple of gigs of flash. Thanks heaps for the feedback. Steve
Re: X on Compact Flash
Hi, I have found the following works well, i have not run X from CF but suspect it will work - provided the flash disk has enough space to fit X on it. -- For a 256Mb flash card a - / - 60m d - /var- 11m e - /usr- rest --- Once installed reboot, install any required pkgs (rsync being one) and edit fstab: Change from: /dev/wd0e /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2 To: /dev/wd0e /usr ffs ro,nodev 1 2 --- Setting up /mfs/var Unless apache is required remove /var/www Create: /mfs/var Rsync accross log files: /usr/local/bin/rsync -vorpug /var/ /mfs/var --- Setting up /mfs/dev mkdir /mfs/dev cp /dev/MAKEDEV /mfs/dev cd /mfs/dev ./MAKEDEV all --- Create ram disk for /var (47mb), /tmp (15 mb) and /dev (500K) by adding mfs mounts to fstab: (note mb sizes are approx): swap /var mfs rw,-s=102400,nodev,noatime,noexec,nosuid 0 0 swap /dev mfs rw,-s=2048,-i=128,nosuid 0 0 swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768,nodev,noatime,noexec,nosuid 0 0 Note for dev the inode number is increased to handle the number of device nodes. So complete fstab: /dev/wd0a / ffs ro 1 1 /dev/wd0e /usr ffs ro,nodev 1 2 #/dev/wd0d /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 swap /var mfs rw,-s=102400,nodev,noatime,noexec,nosuid 0 0 swap /dev mfs rw,-s=2048,-i=128,nosuid 0 0 swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=32768,nodev,noatime,noexec,nosuid 0 0 --- Now need to setup automatic population of mfs mounts on reboot in /etc/rc comment out line number 202: mount -uw / under rm -f /fastboot (about line 203 on 3.9) add: # Copy dev files before anything else cp -Rp /mfs/dev/* /dev comment out line 261 - this is required as /var is mounted twice otherwise: mount /var >/dev/null 2>&1 and add below it: printf "copying files to mfs ..." /usr/local/bin/rsync -orpug /mfs/var/ /var echo " done." On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Steve wrote: Hi all, I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as a thin term for a windows terminal server. I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. Am I missing something or are there alternatives. Thanks, Steve
Re: X on Compact Flash
> Hi all, > > I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as > a thin term > for a windows terminal server. > > I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. > > Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. > > Am I missing something or are there alternatives. > > Thanks, > > Steve > Make a standard installation on the flash, then look at how the flashdist handles /var and /tmp and implement that in your installation. Mount / ro. And it will live 'forever'. // Bjvrn
Re: X on Compact Flash
Steve wrote: Hi all, I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as a thin term for a windows terminal server. I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. as they were designed for tiny, non-X setups, I'd be surprised if they did. Am I missing something or are there alternatives. You seem to be missing the obvious: Install OpenBSD normally on a sufficient sized flash media. What is wrong with this solution? You can't easily buy 16M CF devices anymore. 512M will probably do the job. If starting a new project, start with 3.9, as things got a lot bigger due to the addition of debugging symbols in libraries. Might have to leave out the compXX file set, not much desire to compile from source on flash anyway. Nick.
Re: X on Compact Flash
On 2006/04/28 19:02, Steve wrote: > I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as a > thin term > for a windows terminal server. > > I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. > > Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. > > Am I missing something or are there alternatives. How about just using a standard install? (just don't create a swap partition, maybe mount noatime, but you don't need to change much)... flash large enough to accommodate this is pretty cheap now.
X on Compact Flash
Hi all, I am currently using 3.8 release with a basic X install and rdesktop as a thin term for a windows terminal server. I would like to migrate this to compact flash or similar. Flashdist and flashboot dont seem to be able to accomodate this. Am I missing something or are there alternatives. Thanks, Steve
