Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-06 Thread Pawlowski Marcin Piotr
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:44:35 -0400
STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote:

 On Friday 05 June 2009 11:29:00 Pawlowski Marcin Piotr wrote:
  Hi all,
  I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
  and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
  unfair. Could someone explain it?
 
  Information about why wake(8) was removed:
  http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hide
 attic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD
 
  Cheers!
 
 Gotta love it, fan clubs for commands!  The proper solution there is
 to put it back into /usr/src/usr.sbin, link it up, and you'll have it
 once again. This IS open source, isn't it--if you want to make/keep
 different commands, you can.  You are on your own, but wake(1) is
 hardly a monster.
 
 So while I'd like to see it in the official distribution, the option
 is there to keep it in *your* distribution.
 
 --STeve Andre'
 

Thanks for Your answer. Well said, I'm doing that with few ports (ex.
wireshark) and I'm maintaining my own xenocara source tree (because
lack of support for my graphic card). While asking that question I was
only curios why there wasn't place for wake and now there is for tmux.
Simple answer was that tmux replaced window and I didn't noticed that.
Yes that was my fault...

Cheers!



tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Pawlowski Marcin Piotr
Hi all,
I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
unfair. Could someone explain it?

Information about why wake(8) was removed:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hideattic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD

Cheers!



Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Pedro de Oliveira
window was removed and tmux was added.

-Mensagem original-
De: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] Em nome de
Pawlowski Marcin Piotr
Enviada: sexta-feira, 5 de Junho de 2009 16:29
Para: misc@openbsd.org
Assunto: tmux vs wake

Hi all,
I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
unfair. Could someone explain it?

Information about why wake(8) was removed:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hidea
ttic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD

Cheers!



Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Mats O Jansson

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Pawlowski Marcin Piotr wrote:


Hi all,
I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
unfair. Could someone explain it?


life isn't fair...

tmux replaced window.

one removed, one added.

-moj


Information about why wake(8) was removed:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hideattic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD

Cheers!




Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Pawlowski Marcin Piotr
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:53:11 +0200 (MEST)
Mats O Jansson m...@cntw.com wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Pawlowski Marcin Piotr wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
  and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
  unfair. Could someone explain it?
 
 life isn't fair...
 
 tmux replaced window.
 
 one removed, one added.
 

Thanks, I didn't noticed that. No more questions.

Cheers.



Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Reyk Floeter
hi,

they're not related to each other, so please stop whining.

but i'm happy to have tmux(1) in base because most of the openbsd
users/hackers i know used to install the screen port on their systems
which is not needed anymore.  tmux is nice, it is actively maintained
and developed in the tree, and it is more than a replacement for
screen.

so a possible explanation is that tmux(1) is more important than wake(8).

reyk

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:29:00PM +0200, Pawlowski Marcin Piotr wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
 and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
 unfair. Could someone explain it?
 
 Information about why wake(8) was removed:
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hideattic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD
 
 Cheers!



Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 05 June 2009 11:29:00 Pawlowski Marcin Piotr wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
 and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
 unfair. Could someone explain it?

 Information about why wake(8) was removed:
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/wake/Attic/Makefile?hide
attic=0;only_with_tag=HEAD

 Cheers!

Gotta love it, fan clubs for commands!  The proper solution there is to put
it back into /usr/src/usr.sbin, link it up, and you'll have it once again.  
This IS open source, isn't it--if you want to make/keep different commands,
you can.  You are on your own, but wake(1) is hardly a monster.

So while I'd like to see it in the official distribution, the option is there 
to keep it in *your* distribution.

--STeve Andre'



Re: tmux vs wake

2009-06-05 Thread Artur Grabowski
Pawlowski Marcin Piotr pawlowski...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all,
 I'm a little bit curious about why there is place in bin for tmux(1)
 and there is no place for wake(8). In my opinion it's a little bit
 unfair. Could someone explain it?

Sure, I'll try to explain. Ready? Brace yourself for the blinding flash of
clarity that will shine on this highly mystical perceived inconsistency
in the fairness of the decisions made by the developers. Here it comes:
Because we wanted to.

//art