[WikimediaMobile] Global South = web, Global North = apps

2015-08-27 Thread Tilman Bayer
.. well, that would be a bit too simplified, but there's food for
thought in these two reports:

http://qz.com/466089/the-fastest-growing-mobile-phone-markets-barely-use-apps/
(In Asia and Africa, websites made up 90% and 96% of mobile
impressions, respectively, in the second quarter.
Their habits are a sharp contrast to the US, where apps accounted for
91% of impressions. Globally, there’s a more even distribution, with
apps making up 56% of mobile impressions and websites comprising the
remainder.)

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/26/how-we-use-our-phones-is-changing-in-a-big-way-heres-the-data-that-proves-it/
(According to Yahoo’s data, the use of the browser on smartphones is
quickly declining [in the US]. From 2013 to 2015, the company saw the
usage time of the mobile browser drop by over 50 percent as they moved
to native apps instead.)

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Global South = web, Global North = apps

2015-08-27 Thread Jon Robson
It's worth noting that the 2nd graphic given on
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/26/how-we-use-our-phones-is-changing-in-a-big-way-heres-the-data-that-proves-it/
tells us that most app usage is on facebook, entertainment(games). I
interpret this as the web is not as engaging as an app. Compare an
addictive RPG mobile game with a blog post / wikipedia article - of
course more time is going to be spent in the former. I don't think you
can compare the two and a lot of these reports bother me since they
seem to forget this.

When I was commuting to school back in the day I invested my time on
my Nokia 3210 on the game snake. When I got WAP I'd read BBC news sans
images. When data was cheaper/faster - blog posts/news articles.  Now
I have apps my options are endless.. Twitter.. Facebook... maps... ahh

My interpretation is people are choosing to invest their internet time
on things such as messaging and entertainment rather than web and that
we need to find ways to engage people in the Wikipedia rabbit
hole/experience, the platform not being relevant.


On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 .. well, that would be a bit too simplified, but there's food for
 thought in these two reports:

 http://qz.com/466089/the-fastest-growing-mobile-phone-markets-barely-use-apps/
 (In Asia and Africa, websites made up 90% and 96% of mobile
 impressions, respectively, in the second quarter.
 Their habits are a sharp contrast to the US, where apps accounted for
 91% of impressions. Globally, there’s a more even distribution, with
 apps making up 56% of mobile impressions and websites comprising the
 remainder.)

 http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/08/26/how-we-use-our-phones-is-changing-in-a-big-way-heres-the-data-that-proves-it/
 (According to Yahoo’s data, the use of the browser on smartphones is
 quickly declining [in the US]. From 2013 to 2015, the company saw the
 usage time of the mobile browser drop by over 50 percent as they moved
 to native apps instead.)

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 Senior Analyst
 Wikimedia Foundation
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[WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Android Wikipedia legacy device active maintenance ending

2015-08-27 Thread Stephen Niedzielski
The WMF Android App team will be ceasing active support for older
devices soon, namely devices that run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
or older. Our final legacy device release is expected in mid to late
September[0]. This release will remain available on the Google Play
Store for devices running Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) through 4.0 (Ice
Cream Sandwich). However, future releases will only target devices
running Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich MR1) and higher. [1]

* Why this is happening
  Devices running Android versions older than 4.0.3 make up less than
  8%[2] of the Wikipedia for Android install base, and supporting older
  devices requires disproportionate developer time and effort. Focusing
  our efforts on the most recent and widely used versions will allow us
  to provide a faster, more stable, and more delightful Wikipedia
  experience.

* What this means for older devices
  Enjoy a stable and beautiful legacy release for as long as you wish.
  When you're ready for a new device, a sleek and modern app awaits you.

* What this means for all other devices
  Reap the benefits of a Wikipedia for Android experience built to take
  advantage of the latest and greatest Android technology available.

-The Wikimedia Android team

[0] This will be the final planned legacy device release. Allowances
will be made to enable back support patches of critical issues.
[1] https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html
[2] Google Play Developer Console, Current Installs by Device on August
20, 2015.
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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Android Wikipedia legacy device active maintenance ending

2015-08-27 Thread Pine W
Just to check: what percentage of Wikipedia Zero users are running Android
legacy OS versions?

Pine
On Aug 27, 2015 12:49 PM, Stephen Niedzielski sniedziel...@wikimedia.org
wrote:

 The WMF Android App team will be ceasing active support for older
 devices soon, namely devices that run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
 or older. Our final legacy device release is expected in mid to late
 September[0]. This release will remain available on the Google Play
 Store for devices running Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) through 4.0 (Ice
 Cream Sandwich). However, future releases will only target devices
 running Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich MR1) and higher. [1]

 * Why this is happening
   Devices running Android versions older than 4.0.3 make up less than
   8%[2] of the Wikipedia for Android install base, and supporting older
   devices requires disproportionate developer time and effort. Focusing
   our efforts on the most recent and widely used versions will allow us
   to provide a faster, more stable, and more delightful Wikipedia
   experience.

 * What this means for older devices
   Enjoy a stable and beautiful legacy release for as long as you wish.
   When you're ready for a new device, a sleek and modern app awaits you.

 * What this means for all other devices
   Reap the benefits of a Wikipedia for Android experience built to take
   advantage of the latest and greatest Android technology available.

 -The Wikimedia Android team

 [0] This will be the final planned legacy device release. Allowances
 will be made to enable back support patches of critical issues.
 [1] https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html
 [2] Google Play Developer Console, Current Installs by Device on August
 20, 2015.

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Android Wikipedia legacy device active maintenance ending

2015-08-27 Thread Adam Baso
I think I can get this in Hadoop. Will get back on thread.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just to check: what percentage of Wikipedia Zero users are running Android
 legacy OS versions?

 Pine
 On Aug 27, 2015 12:49 PM, Stephen Niedzielski 
 sniedziel...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 The WMF Android App team will be ceasing active support for older
 devices soon, namely devices that run Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
 or older. Our final legacy device release is expected in mid to late
 September[0]. This release will remain available on the Google Play
 Store for devices running Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) through 4.0 (Ice
 Cream Sandwich). However, future releases will only target devices
 running Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich MR1) and higher. [1]

 * Why this is happening
   Devices running Android versions older than 4.0.3 make up less than
   8%[2] of the Wikipedia for Android install base, and supporting older
   devices requires disproportionate developer time and effort. Focusing
   our efforts on the most recent and widely used versions will allow us
   to provide a faster, more stable, and more delightful Wikipedia
   experience.

 * What this means for older devices
   Enjoy a stable and beautiful legacy release for as long as you wish.
   When you're ready for a new device, a sleek and modern app awaits you.

 * What this means for all other devices
   Reap the benefits of a Wikipedia for Android experience built to take
   advantage of the latest and greatest Android technology available.

 -The Wikimedia Android team

 [0] This will be the final planned legacy device release. Allowances
 will be made to enable back support patches of critical issues.
 [1] https://source.android.com/source/build-numbers.html
 [2] Google Play Developer Console, Current Installs by Device on August
 20, 2015.

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