Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread ishita kapoor 
though I have vision and I am not above 35 yet I agree with sir
asudani. a phone with keypad is far more convenient  and easy to use
in compare to touch screen phones.
let's  hope that we would have a great phone with qwerty keypad very soon.

On 5/22/15, vishal sharma  wrote:
> finally ,someone echoing my views. though v have to adjust to changing
> technologies ,but there is no substitute to a physical keypad.
>
> On 5/22/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> Good.
>> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
>> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind
>> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android
>> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and
>> privacy on phone.
>> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill
>> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months
>> now.
>> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
>>
>>
>> With thanks and regards
>>
>> (Rajesh Asudani)
>>
>> AGM
>> MIU
>> Reserve Bank Of India
>> Nagpur
>>
>> Co-Moderator
>>  VIB-India
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>>
>> Phone: 0712 2806846
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> Laughter
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mobile.accessindia
>> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya
>> shah
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
>> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
>> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine
>> on
>> your Android device
>>
>> There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
>> device
>> TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the
>> only
>> good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the
>> case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive
>> around
>> 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality
>> and
>> speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how
>> accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
>> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even
>> under
>> Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to
>> be
>> a daily driver.
>> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1
>> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is
>> developed
>> by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the
>> program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not take away
>> from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be patient with the
>> interface. The manual can be found here in a text file form.
>> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
>> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must
>> note
>> that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen
>> magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This
>> means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the
>> same
>> time. In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this reason
>> alone
>> could make it useful for many people, since changing the mode it operates
>> in
>> is very simple.
>> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself
>> “Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from
>> your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode
>> depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually
>> check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will
>> proceed to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once you
>> press the back button, it will place you into the Accessibility settings
>> of
>> Android, where you will be given a list of available services.
>> The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter
>> expansion”,
>> and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the horrors of
>> the
>> sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need to have parts of
>> the screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows you to use a “candy
>> bar” which you can pan around the screen and use to read parts of it
>> accordingly.
>> Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the
>> other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed bigger
>> as
>> they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the screen
>> reader is the next challenge.
>> We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press “OK” after the
>> confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus.
>> This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you
>> have
>> reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either through the
>> global context menu or the new volume up+ vo

Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread Shyam M. Sayanekar 
Hello Rajesh, I fully subscribe to your view, and some days back, I had 
written in detail on this point. Thanks for your views.

Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
Telephone: 0251-2438457
Mobile: +91 9920410788
Skype ID- sayanekar
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phonesand Tabs. " 

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to 
Shine on your Android device




Good.
May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind 
persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android 
touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and 
privacy on phone.
For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill 
task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months 
now.

This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.


With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur

Co-Moderator
VIB-India

President
VIBEWA

Phone: 0712 2806846

A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
Laughter


-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia 
[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya 
shah

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine 
on your Android device


There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android 
device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been 
the only good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not 
always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was 
alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in 
functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework 
for how accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even 
under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of 
work to be a daily driver.
And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 
megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is 
developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text 
of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not 
take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be 
patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file 
form.

You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must 
note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen 
magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This 
means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the 
same time. In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this 
reason alone could make it useful for many people, since changing the mode 
it operates in is very simple.
When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself 
“Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from 
your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode 
depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually 
check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will 
proceed to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once you 
press the back button, it will place you into the Accessibility settings 
of Android, where you will be given a list of available services.
The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter 
 expansion”, and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the 
horrors of the sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need to 
have parts of the screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows you 
to use a “candy bar” which you can pan around the screen and use to read 
parts of it accordingly.
Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the 
other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed bigger 
as they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the 
screen reader is the next challenge.
We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press “OK” after the 
confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus.
This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you 
have reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either through 
the global context menu or the new volume up+ volume down key combination. 
Once paused, press near the bottom right corner of the screen, right above 
the home/back/recents button bar of your device.
This will activate Shine plus, though you

Re: [Mobile.AI] Regarding Moto E second gen 4G

2015-05-22 Thread Aaruni Sharma 
Hi,. the update is being rolled out gradually I suppose. make sure that the
"motorola update service" app is updated to the latest under my apps in the
google play  store

On 21 May 2015 at 10:21, Jairam Balasubramanian  wrote:

> Dear Aruni Sir
>
> My phone is just a week old.
> Yet it is running on 5.0.2.
> It also says that the phone is updated and there are no updates
> available for 5.1.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks and regards
> Jairam
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Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh 
Why not?
I fully support keypad over touch screens.\
Does android OS technically prohibit interface with keypad?


With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur

Co-Moderator
 VIB-India

President
VIBEWA

Phone: 0712 2806846

A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter


-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. 
Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants 
to Shine on your Android device

All
Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail. 

A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine 
on your Android device

Good.
May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind  
persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android 
touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and privacy 
on phone.
For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill task 
even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months now.
This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.


With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur

Co-Moderator
 VIB-India

President
VIBEWA

Phone: 0712 2806846

A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter

-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on 
your Android device

There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device 
TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the only 
good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the case. 
Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive around 2011 
last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality and speed. 
Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how accessibility is done 
on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even under 
Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to be a 
daily driver.
And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 megabyte 
screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is developed by a Chinese 
company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the program and manual 
is not constructed well, though this does not take away from its functionality 
if you are willing to learn and be patient with the interface. The manual can 
be found here in a text file form.
You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must note 
that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen magnifier 
and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This means that it not 
only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the same time. In the Android 
world, that’s definitely a first, and this reason alone could make it useful 
for many people, since changing the mode it operates in is very simple.
When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself 
“Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from your 
home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode depending on 
the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually check whether you 
have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will proceed to allow you 
the option to set your mode of preference. Once you press the back button, it 
will place you into the Accessibility settings of Android, where you will be 
given a list of available services.
The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter expansion”, 
and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the horrors of the 
sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need to have parts of the 
screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows you to use a “candy bar” 
which you can pan around the screen and use to read parts of it accordingly.
Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the other 
one (lett

Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread li...@srinivasu.org 
Rajesh:

Of course technically it supports physical key pad but manufacturers may not 
get big market. Also there is a huge development going on to improve 
accessibility. 

I think add-on Bluetooth key board may serve the purpose. Honestly I don't 
think we can convince device makers to come up with physical keyboard. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> 
> Why not?
> I fully support keypad over touch screens.\
> Does android OS technically prohibit interface with keypad?
> 
> 
> With thanks and regards
> 
> (Rajesh Asudani)
> 
> AGM
> MIU
> Reserve Bank Of India
> Nagpur
> 
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
> 
> President
> VIBEWA
> 
> Phone: 0712 2806846
> 
> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia 
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H 
> P
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
> and Tabs. 
> Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it 
> Wants to Shine on your Android device
> 
> All
> Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail. 
> 
> A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices.
> 
> Harish Kotian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia 
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, 
> Rajesh
> Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
> and Tabs. 
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine 
> on your Android device
> 
> Good.
> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind  
> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android 
> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and 
> privacy on phone.
> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill 
> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months now.
> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
> 
> 
> With thanks and regards
> 
> (Rajesh Asudani)
> 
> AGM
> MIU
> Reserve Bank Of India
> Nagpur
> 
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
> 
> President
> VIBEWA
> 
> Phone: 0712 2806846
> 
> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia 
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya 
> shah
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on 
> your Android device
> 
> There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device 
> TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the only 
> good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the 
> case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive around 
> 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality and 
> speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how 
> accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even under 
> Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to be a 
> daily driver.
> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 
> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is developed 
> by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the 
> program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not take away 
> from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be patient with the 
> interface. The manual can be found here in a text file form.
> You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
> Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must note 
> that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen 
> magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This means 
> that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the same time. 
> In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this reason alone could 
> make it useful for many people, since changing the mode it operates in is 
> very simple.
> When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself 
> “Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from 
> your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode 
> depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually check 
> whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will

Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread Asudani, Rajesh 
Add on Bluetooth is an extra baggage and does not serve the purpose, for it is 
usually too small.

We can get the market, even may sighted including senior citizens and 
not-so-techno savy people also vote for keypad phones.
Only requirement is we should be able to think against the tide.
Touch screen is fashionable, so be it.

With thanks and regards

(Rajesh Asudani)

AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur

Co-Moderator
 VIB-India

President
VIBEWA

Phone: 0712 2806846

A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter


-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:52 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it 
Wants to Shine on your Android device

Rajesh:

Of course technically it supports physical key pad but manufacturers may not 
get big market. Also there is a huge development going on to improve 
accessibility.

I think add-on Bluetooth key board may serve the purpose. Honestly I don't 
think we can convince device makers to come up with physical keyboard.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>
> Why not?
> I fully support keypad over touch screens.\ Does android OS
> technically prohibit interface with keypad?
>
>
> With thanks and regards
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> AGM
> MIU
> Reserve Bank Of India
> Nagpur
>
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> President
> VIBEWA
>
> Phone: 0712 2806846
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> Laughter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> Kotian, H P
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
> and Tabs.
> Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and
> it Wants to Shine on your Android device
>
> All
> Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail.
>
> A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
> and Tabs.
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants
> to Shine on your Android device
>
> Good.
> May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
> But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind  
> persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android 
> touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and 
> privacy on phone.
> For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill 
> task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months now.
> This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.
>
>
> With thanks and regards
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> AGM
> MIU
> Reserve Bank Of India
> Nagpur
>
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> President
> VIBEWA
>
> Phone: 0712 2806846
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with  Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> Laughter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mobile.accessindia
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> Bhavya shah
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
> To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
> Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
> Shine on your Android device
>
> There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device 
> TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the only 
> good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the 
> case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive around 
> 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality and 
> speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how 
> accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more.
> Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even under 
> Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to be a 
> daily driver.
> And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 
> megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is developed 
> by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the 
> program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not take away 
> from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be patient with the 
> interface. The manual can be found here in a text file form.
> You might be w

Re: [Mobile.AI] Mobile Speak on old Symbian devices

2015-05-22 Thread Hanif Kruger 

Hi,

Thanks to everyone for their responses.

Kind Regards
Hanif Kruger


On 2015/05/22 08:46 AM, Prabhu Kota wrote:

there may be many of people like me who own a symbion phone for their
regular use and have an android devise too for those purposes where
symbion lakhs, best example is to use whatsapp, and certain
e-commersse apps.
i  still use my symbion phone for most of my purposes but no browser
update for symbion is major issue.

On 22/05/2015, Bhavya shah  wrote:

Hi,
Hanif,
There is steady transitioning to SimbAndroid from Simbian, however,
there do exist people still on Simbian in await for a keyboard
equipped Android powered device. I personally purchased an Android
device as my first phone and am using it, which, is a Motorolla G
second generation Lollipop 5.0.2.
Thanks.

On 5/22/15, Hanif Kruger  wrote:

Hello all,

As the owner, of an assistive technology company in South Africa, (I am
blind myself), I was curious as to how many people are still using the
older Symbian devices with Mobile Speak or Talks.

I still have requests coming in regarding the old phones and Nokia, now
Microsoft, obliged and provided me with some refurbished handsets to
satisfy some clients.

How are things in the lovely India looking regarding this situation?

Apologies if my question might be perceived as somewhat off-topic.

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Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device

2015-05-22 Thread Harish 

All
I am afraid, members are disregarding my request.
1 Folks are responding to mails which are having moderator in the subject 
line, which is violating the list guidelines.
2 I have specifically requested not to get into the keyboard debate. We have 
had many such rounds in the past and it is a pointless debate. It is 
incorrect to say there are no Android phones with keyboard in the market, 
the configuration is poor, and it is not a recommended device.


Again, there are external keyboard options also available.
If someone still wants to nag, then, use forrums like change.org to drive 
your point which can make a difference. Lamenting here shall give no

solution.

This thread is closed for all traffic.

Harish Kotian
Moderator


- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs. " 

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and 
it Wants to Shine on your Android device



Add on Bluetooth is an extra baggage and does not serve the purpose, for 
it is usually too small.


We can get the market, even may sighted including senior citizens and 
not-so-techno savy people also vote for keypad phones.

Only requirement is we should be able to think against the tide.
Touch screen is fashionable, so be it.

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-Original Message-
From: Mobile.accessindia 
[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
li...@srinivasu.org

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:52 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and 
it Wants to Shine on your Android device


Rajesh:

Of course technically it supports physical key pad but manufacturers may 
not get big market. Also there is a huge development going on to improve 
accessibility.


I think add-on Bluetooth key board may serve the purpose. Honestly I don't 
think we can convince device makers to come up with physical keyboard.


Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh  
wrote:


Why not?
I fully support keypad over touch screens.\ Does android OS
technically prohibit interface with keypad?


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[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Kotian, H P
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
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Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and
it Wants to Shine on your Android device

All
Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail.

A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices.

Harish Kotian

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[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
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Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants
to Shine on your Android device

Good.
May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most  of totally blind 
persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in 
android touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that 
ease and privacy on phone.
For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill 
task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months 
now.

This will be the case until an android  device with keypad comes along.


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From: Mobile.accessindia
[mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
Shine on your Android device

There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android 
device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has 
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Re: [Mobile.AI] Accessible news app for IPhone

2015-05-22 Thread Dinesh Thole 
Thank you so much friends.
I downloaded NDTV, and it is very good.

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Accessibility of NBT is broken in the latest version of ios same is
the case with TOI (times of india). Try NDTVapp its good.

On 5/20/15, Nishi  wrote:
> try ndtv. its a good app for reading the news. i use it.
> regards,
> nishi.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 20-May-2015, at 2:01 pm, Satguru Rathi 
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>> NBT, Dainik Bhaskar and BBC are quite usable on iPhone.
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>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:56 PM
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>> hello, greetings
>> there are few of the android news apps are quite accessible with
>> talkback with kitcat
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>> toi, [times of india]\
>> many more
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>>> On 20/05/2015, Dinesh Thole  wrote:
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>>> I want to know which accessible  app  I can use for reading news on
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>>> I don't find times of india, economic times to be that accessible.
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