Add on Bluetooth is an extra baggage and does not serve the purpose, for it is usually too small.
We can get the market, even may sighted including senior citizens and not-so-techno savy people also vote for keypad phones. Only requirement is we should be able to think against the tide. Touch screen is fashionable, so be it. With thanks and regards (Rajesh Asudani) AGM MIU Reserve Bank Of India Nagpur Co-Moderator VIB-India President VIBEWA Phone: 0712 2806846 A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and Laughter -----Original Message----- From: Mobile.accessindia [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:52 PM To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones and Tabs. Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device Rajesh: Of course technically it supports physical key pad but manufacturers may not get big market. Also there is a huge development going on to improve accessibility. I think add-on Bluetooth key board may serve the purpose. Honestly I don't think we can convince device makers to come up with physical keyboard. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C > On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > > Why not? > I fully support keypad over touch screens.\ Does android OS > technically prohibit interface with keypad? > > > With thanks and regards > > (Rajesh Asudani) > > AGM > MIU > Reserve Bank Of India > Nagpur > > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > President > VIBEWA > > Phone: 0712 2806846 > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > Laughter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of > Kotian, H P > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 11:41 AM > To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones > and Tabs. > Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and > it Wants to Shine on your Android device > > All > Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail. > > A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices. > > Harish Kotian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of > Asudani, Rajesh > Sent: 22 May 2015 10:08 > To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones > and Tabs. > Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants > to Shine on your Android device > > Good. > May newer screen readers continue to shine on android. > But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most of totally blind > persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in android > touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that ease and > privacy on phone. > For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill > task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months now. > This will be the case until an android device with keypad comes along. > > > With thanks and regards > > (Rajesh Asudani) > > AGM > MIU > Reserve Bank Of India > Nagpur > > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > President > VIBEWA > > Phone: 0712 2806846 > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > Laughter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mobile.accessindia > [mailto:mobile.accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of > Bhavya shah > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM > To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers > Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to > Shine on your Android device > > There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android device > TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has been the only > good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was not always the > case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel, which was alive around > 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed Talkback in functionality and > speed. Google then suddenly changed the entire framework for how > accessibility is done on their platform, and Spiel was no more. > Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even under > Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of work to be a > daily driver. > And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1 > megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is developed > by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English text of the > program and manual is not constructed well, though this does not take away > from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be patient with the > interface. The manual can be found here in a text file form. > You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback? > Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must note > that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen > magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This means > that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the same time. > In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this reason alone could > make it useful for many people, since changing the mode it operates in is > very simple. > When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call itself > “Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the application from > your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your desired mode > depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app will actually check > whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard installed, and then will proceed > to allow you the option to set your mode of preference. Once you press the > back button, it will place you into the Accessibility settings of Android, > where you will be given a list of available services. > The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter expansion”, > and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the horrors of the > sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need to have parts of the > screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows you to use a “candy bar” > which you can pan around the screen and use to read parts of it accordingly. > Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the > other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed bigger as > they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the screen > reader is the next challenge. > We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press “OK” after the > confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus. > This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you have > reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either through the > global context menu or the new volume up+ volume down key combination. Once > paused, press near the bottom right corner of the screen, right above the > home/back/recents button bar of your device. > This will activate Shine plus, though you are not yet done. Lock the screen > to have Talkback return. Next, go back and disable Talkback to have Shine > Plus function properly. > Some people have reported success with the “tripple click home” > function of Shine Plus. Here, you would disable talkback and press your home > button three times in quick succession to enable the service. This for us was > a hit or miss on devices that do not have a physical home button– sometimes > it works, other times not so. If you are using a Galaxy device however, > simply disable talkback in Accessibility settings and press the home button > three times. > The screen reader offers some functionality not present in Talkback. > For example, you can copy the screen to the clipboard, or parts of text. The > “command panel” (similar to Talkback’s global menu) is feature packed with > other functions. There are two interesting ones called Ear Talk and whisper. > With Ear Talk, you can choose a specific detail of your phone (battery > status, last message) to be spoken through your phone’s earpiece when it is > held to your head. Ear Talk will redirect all speech to this speaker > entirely, so (in theory) it could be used in situations where you are looking > for privacy but do not have headphones. In practice, it is a bit tricky to > use as a touch screen element can easily be activated. > To access the command pannel, swipe right than left in quick succession. You > will hear two high-pitched tones and the announcement, “command panel.” Here > are the options, from top to bottom, exploring the screen in a line left to > right: > • Top two lines: Includes speech and volume increments (2 stage speed on > first line, / 70% volume, on second, for example.) • third line: Key echo. > Notification method (Block or output all notifications), wi-fi (toggle > on/off), Bluetooth (toggle on/off), cover mode (toggle on/off), speak call > info, Whisper auto mode, and ear talk. > • Third line: Short key, label (for graphics), marking (seems to auto label > graphics?), version information, screen auto read, screen character string > (spells out item in last focus), app delete, translation. > • Fourth line – granularities: character, word, line, paragraph, default, > copy, additional copy, paste. > • Fifth line: Web list, web editbox, web phone number, Web search, Youtube > search, app search, voice search. These open corresponding apps on your > device, such as Youtube or the Voice Search app. > • sixth line: Short key list, Shine setting, device (opens up your settings > app), execute app list (opens up overview or recent apps list), sound (sound > settings), Keyboard (language and input), accessibility (same as in > settings.) No doubt this list is a bit overwhelming, and for this reason > Shine Plus might be useful for more advanced users or those who just want a > higher degree of customization. Talkback still wins for some, because it is > simple to configure, is not cluttered, and thus less complicated. > Similar to Talkback, it will tell you when you plug or unplug a power source. > Scrolling is a bit problematic, because there is no proper earcon for knowing > how far you are in a list — it uses the Browse Mode exit sound from the > popular NVDA screen reader to indicate scrolling. > This was by far the largest problem with Shine Plus, and the manual is not > very clear on what each setting is about. > For users of devices that have capacitive buttons such as the Galaxy series, > Shine Plus also allows you to double tap these (similar to how it would be on > a nexus or soft-button based device), rather than using them with one tap. > This feature, curiously, is also present in the latest Galaxy S6 as an > accessibility setting. Other interesting features to note include the ability > for seek controls to be raised or lowered with the volume keys (this is also > now in Talkback 4.2), options to configure how the phone keypad works (and > whether a swipe up on the screen will answer/end calls), configuring what > notifications are read outloud, an option that unlocks your device > automatically when power button is pressed (if there is no pin), and even a > feature that will launch a specific application after your screen is turned > on. > Could this make a good daily screen reader? That’s your call. For now, this > is a project worth keeping tabs on, as it could give Google’s efforts a > serious run if it improves right over time. If you’re patient and advanced > enough, go ahead, give it a try. 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