On 22-May-2015, at 15:32, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
wrote:
Why not?
I fully support keypad over touch screens.\ Does android OS
technically prohibit interface with keypad?
With thanks and regards
(Rajesh Asudani)
AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur
Co-Moderator
VIB-India
President
VIBEWA
Phone: 0712 2806846
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Subject: [Mobile.AI] Moderator: RE: There’s Another Screen Reader, and
it Wants to Shine on your Android device
All
Appreciate all the comments and sentiments expressed in the mail.
A request, not to start a debate on keyboard vs keyboardless devices.
Harish Kotian
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Good.
May newer screen readers continue to shine on android.
But, frankly, and here I believe I am speaking for most of totally blind
persons above age of 35, that ease of symbian is surely missing in
android touch screen phones, and I vehemently lament the loss of that
ease and privacy on phone.
For me, Even performing a simple task as forwarding messages is an uphill
task even after trying and exploring touch screen for about eight months
now.
This will be the case until an android device with keypad comes along.
With thanks and regards
(Rajesh Asudani)
AGM
MIU
Reserve Bank Of India
Nagpur
Co-Moderator
VIB-India
President
VIBEWA
Phone: 0712 2806846
A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
Laughter
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Bhavya shah
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:54 PM
To: eyes-free; mobile.accessindia; keyboardusers
Subject: [Mobile.AI] There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to
Shine on your Android device
There’s Another Screen Reader, and it Wants to Shine on your Android
device TAMAS GECZY ON MAY 19, 2015 For the longest time, Talkback has
been the only good and useful screen reader on Android — though this was
not always the case. Senior Android users might fondly recall Spiel,
which was alive around 2011 last, a screen reader that even surpassed
Talkback in functionality and speed. Google then suddenly changed the
entire framework for how accessibility is done on their platform, and
Spiel was no more.
Although current compiled releases of it can be run successfully even
under Android 5.1, the code is not often maintained and needs a lot of
work to be a daily driver.
And then, without warning, a new contender came on to the scene. The 1
megabyte screen reader, which is technically called Shine Plus is
developed by a Chinese company called ATLab. As a result, the English
text of the program and manual is not constructed well, though this does
not take away from its functionality if you are willing to learn and be
patient with the interface. The manual can be found here in a text file
form.
You might be wondering, is it better than Talkback?
Before we dive into some of the unique features of Shine plus, we must
note that it is a very special screen reader as it also includes a screen
magnifier and other tools for people who have high-partial vision. This
means that it not only is a screen reader, but also a magnifier at the
same time. In the Android world, that’s definitely a first, and this
reason alone could make it useful for many people, since changing the
mode it operates in is very simple.
When you first install the Shine Plus application (it does not call
itself “Another Talkback screen reader”), you need to launch the
application from your home screen to configure it. Here you will set your
desired mode depending on the level of vision you have. First, the app
will actually check whether you have Google TTS or the keyboard
installed, and then will proceed to allow you the option to set your mode
of preference. Once you press the back button, it will place you into the
Accessibility settings of Android, where you will be given a list of
available services.
The three options are “based on voice support”, “based on letter
expansion”, and “sight protection.” No, it will not protect you from the
horrors of the sighted world — that latter choice is for those who need
to have parts of the screen spoken outloud from time to time. It allows
you to use a “candy bar” which you can pan around the screen and use to
read parts of it accordingly.
Voice support is what those who are completely blind will use, while the
other one (letter expansion) is for those who need letters zoomed bigger
as they use their device. Once you have set your choice, enabling the
screen reader is the next challenge.
We have found that in most cases, it is impossible to press “OK” after
the confirmation dialog appears which asks you to turn on Shine Plus.
This is easy enough to resolve, though requires some agility. When you
have reached the alert prompt to enable it, Pause Talkback either through
the global context menu or the new volume up+ volume down key
combination. Once paused, press near the bottom right corner of the
screen, right above the home/back/recents button bar of your device.
This will activate Shine plus, though you are not yet done. Lock the
screen to have Talkback return. Next, go back and disable Talkback to
have Shine Plus function properly.
Some people have reported success with the “tripple click home”
function of Shine Plus. Here, you would disable talkback and press your
home button three times in quick succession to enable the service. This
for us was a hit or miss on devices that do not have a physical home
button– sometimes it works, other times not so. If you are using a Galaxy
device however, simply disable talkback in Accessibility settings and
press the home button three times.
The screen reader offers some functionality not present in Talkback.
For example, you can copy the screen to the clipboard, or parts of text.
The “command panel” (similar to Talkback’s global menu) is feature packed
with other functions. There are two interesting ones called Ear Talk and
whisper. With Ear Talk, you can choose a specific detail of your phone
(battery status, last message) to be spoken through your phone’s earpiece
when it is held to your head. Ear Talk will redirect all speech to this
speaker entirely, so (in theory) it could be used in situations where you
are looking for privacy but do not have headphones. In practice, it is a
bit tricky to use as a touch screen element can easily be activated.
To access the command pannel, swipe right than left in quick succession.
You will hear two high-pitched tones and the announcement, “command
panel.” Here are the options, from top to bottom, exploring the screen in
a line left to right:
• Top two lines: Includes speech and volume increments (2 stage speed on
first line, / 70% volume, on second, for example.) • third line: Key
echo. Notification method (Block or output all notifications), wi-fi
(toggle on/off), Bluetooth (toggle on/off), cover mode (toggle on/off),
speak call info, Whisper auto mode, and ear talk.
• Third line: Short key, label (for graphics), marking (seems to auto
label graphics?), version information, screen auto read, screen character
string (spells out item in last focus), app delete, translation.
• Fourth line – granularities: character, word, line, paragraph, default,
copy, additional copy, paste.
• Fifth line: Web list, web editbox, web phone number, Web search,
Youtube search, app search, voice search. These open corresponding apps
on your device, such as Youtube or the Voice Search app.
• sixth line: Short key list, Shine setting, device (opens up your
settings app), execute app list (opens up overview or recent apps list),
sound (sound settings), Keyboard (language and input), accessibility
(same as in settings.) No doubt this list is a bit overwhelming, and for
this reason Shine Plus might be useful for more advanced users or those
who just want a higher degree of customization. Talkback still wins for
some, because it is simple to configure, is not cluttered, and thus less
complicated.
Similar to Talkback, it will tell you when you plug or unplug a power
source. Scrolling is a bit problematic, because there is no proper earcon
for knowing how far you are in a list — it uses the Browse Mode exit
sound from the popular NVDA screen reader to indicate scrolling.
This was by far the largest problem with Shine Plus, and the manual is
not very clear on what each setting is about.
For users of devices that have capacitive buttons such as the Galaxy
series, Shine Plus also allows you to double tap these (similar to how it
would be on a nexus or soft-button based device), rather than using them
with one tap. This feature, curiously, is also present in the latest
Galaxy S6 as an accessibility setting. Other interesting features to note
include the ability for seek controls to be raised or lowered with the
volume keys (this is also now in Talkback 4.2), options to configure how
the phone keypad works (and whether a swipe up on the screen will
answer/end calls), configuring what notifications are read outloud, an
option that unlocks your device automatically when power button is
pressed (if there is no pin), and even a feature that will launch a
specific application after your screen is turned on.
Could this make a good daily screen reader? That’s your call. For now,
this is a project worth keeping tabs on, as it could give Google’s
efforts a serious run if it improves right over time. If you’re patient
and advanced enough, go ahead, give it a try. Just be sure to re-enable
talkback if you uninstall it, because without a screen reader turned on,
your phone will definitely not shine.
Source:
http://www.coolblindtech.com/theres-another-screen-reader-and-it-wants
-to-shine-on-your-android-device/
--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader
for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA,
please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla
G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09
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