Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
ethan hawke wrote one of my favorite books. it's called "the hottest state" nirra --- *you are the most magnifcent creation* boy sets fire On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 23:55:40 Kathryn McDonald wrote: ...that sounds a lot like an Ethan Hawke monologue from Reality Bites...and Winona Ryder is Isacc Brock? Not a sermon, just a thought. I hate to disappoint, but I've never seen that movie. Just a thought. keight __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. ***
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
who ever mentioned the emo-hardcore connection was right on. i find that 95% of the time emo kids are just like..reformed hardcore kids. ok my friend who ironically (or not) uses your isp says that actually hardcore IS punk but people think that hardcore is different cos it's harder but it's actually just harder punk. phew that's confusing. it makes sense, but i'm not sure how much time i'd invest in believing that. i find both emo and indie enthusiests to be obnoxious. some of the most snobby and fake people out there. don't forget 'grrrls.' oh god if there's ever a time where i go back to that kinda thing someone shoot me. it wasn't that i was mean, but i don't like wearing red lipstick and writing "slut" on my arm to prove a point i don't believe in. what sense does that make? i guess in kathleen hanna's world it might add up, but i still have yet to be clued in. i go in #emo sometimes on dalnet irc. they're not all that terrible, and i have sops so why not ;) but..it can be horrible. it can be like going into the GAP only it's like the EMO. de ja vu. haven't i talked about the gap before? think corky think. hm. oh well. aahh i just realized something! if emo is like hardcore and hardcore pretty much is like punk..what's the need for hardcore? haha or punk?! let's get rid of punk! yeah! they all dress the same anyhoo. its much better when people dont label themselves as one thing or another...and its especially lame when people say that, that they dont want to label themselves, but they say it in a fake way to almost label themselves. anyway..i dont know what i am classified as..but i guess it would be just CHEAP. i wear cheap clothes. that is all it's easy and only fair to classify people if they make themselves look one certain way. an obnoxious emo-ite (teehee, speaking of asking for it ;)) is only asking to be labeled 'emo' and an obnoxious indie-ite is only asking to be labeled 'indie,' although i think that's a little hard...just cos. if someone isn't trying to show off so hard who they are on the outside, i think they'd have much more of a lasting impact than someone who shows off who they are by what everyone else like them is wearing. i mean band shirts and all that stuff is cool, i think that's a good conversation starter, but haha oh god spare me with the hairdye and obnoxious nose piercings; the thick glasses; buttons; all the other trend crap. there's nothing cool about being friends with a a wannabe circus clown :P haha oh shit, or a vulcan as chris said. - amy "i wonder if you still have mine, running sometimes through your head. i think of your's every night, every night before i go to bed. i've still got these numbers..." mm eric metronome.
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
wow, i stray from email-dom and the list for awhile, and this is what we have. shite. the whole indie/emo/hardcore scene is such a disgusting fashion show. im just now realizing it more. i once thought that individuality had alot to do with thisso-called scene, but its the same as any other. i was in a college town this past weekend, and i think the bars full of mindless, preppie, rich kids had more individuality than say, kids at a make up show. ya know...they shop at abercrombie fitch and jcrew because theyre everywhere, its easy to do so, without a second thought, they just dont know any better. but it seems that people in the indie scene go to great lengths to find the kind of clothes and style that helps them "fit in". sure i know plenty of people on both sides of this coin, and thats fine with me. some of the most amazing people i know would be looked at strangely for showing up to a rocket from the crypt show with their wardrobe from the local mall. sure, malls are disgusting but judging someone by their style of dress is more so. okay, somehow this has strayed, but basically the indie scene, and all the other little music scenes are all the same. cliques are all the same. and too many people try to get their style down, just to fit in somewhere. it becomes obvious when youre trying too hard, especially when youre not confident, and when you really dont have an identity of your own. right now im wearing grey new balances, dark blue carhart jeans, and a yankee tshirt i got at a thrift shop like 6 years ago. oh yeah, and boxers from banana republic. id like to know what music scene you think i fit into, and i bet you that youre dead fucking wrong. thank you all so much for reading my lil' rant. its always fun. peace xo bp and i like this part too, more people should do it, the "now playing" section... np: the jam : "sound affects" ...and the already classic... peanut butter wolf : "my vinyl weighs a ton"
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
Call me ignorant (which I don't really think I am, exposure wise, living in Oly) but what the hell does "emo" mean, and who is classified as "emo"? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
...that sounds a lot like an Ethan Hawke monologue from Reality Bites...and Winona Ryder is Isacc Brock? Not a sermon, just a thought. "Just to second (or third, or fourth) the running theme... Not having a dictionary in front of me right now, I might be wrong, but I believe "indie" is the abbreviation of "independant", meaning unsigned for the most part, but also indicating some kind of dissassociation from the mainstream. And the icky things about the mainstream are a herd mentality, lack of discriminatory abilities, and adherence to a style of dress/speach/living in order to feel more at home with a certain group of people. The "indie rock" image is just as bad as the Abercrombie and Fitch image...it just costs less, and requires more time and energy to bone up on the discographies of obscure bands local or otherwise. I fell in love with Modest Mouse five years ago at a defunct firehouse aka adolescent hangout in Redmond, WA, for the simple reason that the music expressed every sentiment I have about suburbia, public schooling, rampant development, depression, etc...only more poetically than I think I could express it. For some reason that's far more important to me than whether or not I've got the Dickie's shoulder bag, short bangs and stylishly worn vintage jeans. So, yeah...this is probably just the product of living in Olympia for too long now, but seriously, I think scenesters isolate themselves on purpose...because it's not as valuable once everyone else is into it. If I didn't think that fame and fortune made people assholes, I would like the whole world to listen to Modest Mouse...and I do mean *listen*, because low-slung pants and holey t-shirts or no, I think Mr. Brock has got one hell of a point to make, and he makes it very well. Someday I'd like to sit down and have a conversation with Isaac Brock over a cup of coffee and a pack of cigarettes, and I hope to God he's not anything like the scores of dissaffected, bored, unwashed indie boys I meet again and again at shows. I hope he's the beautifully insightful, hesistantly intelligent, poignant yet down-to-earth man who's voice comes through my speakers every day, who just so happens to make a few records and scream into his guitar strings every so often. Of course, that's just me. keight"
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
Who knows what bands are exactly emo, some call modest mouse emo, for a complete list of all those "emo" bands everyone is chatting about check out "http://www.ticklemeemo.com" -- From: "Kathryn McDonald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks Date: Wed, Nov 24, 1999, 7:01 AM Call me ignorant (which I don't really think I am, exposure wise, living in Oly) but what the hell does "emo" mean, and who is classified as "emo"? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: typical indie/emo looks
...that sounds a lot like an Ethan Hawke monologue from Reality Bites...and Winona Ryder is Isacc Brock? Not a sermon, just a thought. I hate to disappoint, but I've never seen that movie. Just a thought. keight __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
