Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Patrick Galbraith wrote: Anyone on this list use AxKit? I'm curious how it pans out. I like the idea of XSLT/XML, though I find myself trying to read between the lines of hype vs. something that's actually very useful. I don't know, so I don't have any opinions. I do know I'd like to use XSLT/XML so as to have a project to use it for, hence learn it. I'm just about to roll out a site using AxKit that has to do about 3 million hits/day out of the box. The main reason I like AxKit is it prevents me from screwing up and creating XSS bugs, because everything has to be well formed. I almost never have to use html or URL encode/decode functions - I just write straight perl code. I barely notice that I'm using XML. It's also worth noting that XSLT is a portable skill, with lots of great offline tools. It's also worth saying: never listen to hype. Evaluate solutions based on your criteria. AxKit matches mine but it doesn't mean it will match yours. Matt.
Re: templating system opinions (axkit?) [OT]
Hi Matt, On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Matt Sergeant wrote: The main reason I like AxKit is it prevents me from screwing up [snip] I just write straight perl code. I barely notice that I'm using XML. Can you give us in a couple of sentences your take on the state of XML in general and AxKit in particular? To me somehow things don't seem to be going in quite the same direction any more... 73, Ged.
RE: mod_perl installation problem...
Thanks for getting back Randy, Libapreq is complaining too.. That's how this all started, I couldn't install Apache::Cookie. Ok.. I've had a bit of a clean up, and I can now get Apachemod_perl compiling and running just fine.. __But__ I still can't for the life of me get Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie to install.. Going slowly insane. Any help really appreciated.. Hope this hasn't become too OT. Cheers, Jimbo PS: Here is the end of the make test from libapreq: = /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd -X -d /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/t -f /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/t/conf/httpd.conf -DAPACHE1 using Apache/1.3.28 waiting for server to start: . waiting for server to start: ok (waited 0 secs) server localhost.localdomain:8529 started apreq/big_inputNOK 1# Failed test 1 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 apreq/big_inputNOK 2# Failed test 2 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #2 apreq/big_inputNOK 3# Failed test 3 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #3 apreq/big_inputNOK 4# Failed test 4 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #4 apreq/big_inputNOK 5# Failed test 5 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #5 apreq/big_inputNOK 6# Failed test 6 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #6 apreq/big_inputNOK 7# Failed test 7 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #7 apreq/big_inputNOK 8# Failed test 8 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #8 apreq/big_inputNOK 9# Failed test 9 in apreq/big_input.t at line 40 fail #9 apreq/big_inputNOK 10# Failed test 10 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 apreq/big_inputNOK 11# Failed test 11 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #2 apreq/big_inputNOK 12# Failed test 12 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #3 apreq/big_inputNOK 13# Failed test 13 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #4 apreq/big_inputNOK 14# Failed test 14 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #5 apreq/big_inputNOK 15# Failed test 15 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #6 apreq/big_inputNOK 16# Failed test 16 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #7 apreq/big_inputNOK 17# Failed test 17 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #8 apreq/big_inputNOK 18# Failed test 18 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #9 apreq/big_inputNOK 19# Failed test 19 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #10 apreq/big_inputNOK 20# Failed test 20 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #11 apreq/big_inputNOK 21# Failed test 21 in apreq/big_input.t at line 63 fail #12 apreq/big_inputFAILED tests 1-21 Failed 21/21 tests, 0.00% okay apreq/cookie...NOK 1# Failed test 1 in apreq/cookie.t at line 20 apreq/cookie...FAILED test 1 Failed 1/1 tests, 0.00% okay apreq/inherit..NOK 1# Failed test 1 in apreq/inherit.t at line 11 apreq/inherit..FAILED test 1 Failed 1/1 tests, 0.00% okay apreq/request..NOK 1# Failed test 1 in apreq/request.t at line 18 apreq/request..NOK 2# Failed test 2 in apreq/request.t at line 26 apreq/request..FAILED tests 1-2 Failed 2/2 tests, 0.00% okay Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --- apreq/big_input.t 21 21 100.00% 1-21 apreq/cookie.t 11 100.00% 1 apreq/inherit.t 11 100.00% 1 apreq/request.t 22 100.00% 1-2 *** server localhost.localdomain:8529 shutdown !!! error running tests (please examine t/logs/error_log) make: *** [run_tests] Error 1 = And here is t/logs/error_log [Wed Jul 23 09:42:12 2003] [info] created shared memory segment #950274 [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Can't load '/usr/src/libapreq-1.2/blib/arch/auto/Apache/Cookie/Cookie.so' for module Apache::Cookie: libapreq.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/local/lib /perl5/5.8.0/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 229. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14 Compilation failed in require at /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/t/response/TestApReq/big_input.pm line 9. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/t/response/TestApReq/big_input.pm line 9. Compilation failed in require at (eval 10) line 3. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined subroutine TestApReq::big_input::handler called. [Wed Jul 23 09:42:13 2003] [error] Undefined
Re: Apache::UploadMeter
I had some problems with my server-configuration (httpd.conf) but now it works perfect. Thanks to Issac for the fast help and the cool module. Hope this gets you started, Issac
Re: [QUESTION] Can't read out verified username (auth)
- Original Message -
From: Martin Wickman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] Can't read out verified username (auth)
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 12:36:55PM +0200, Fatih Gey wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 01:05:58AM +0200, Fatih Gey wrote:
i was writing my own AuthHandler with modperl v2 (v1.99_09).
[...]
After having entered user/pass via html-form, this authentification
does his job well, but on the following request (on same browser)
$obj-user doesnt seem to return any value.. so this handler tries
to compare http post data ( which arent present this time) with
userdata in mysql-table.. resulting in an Auth_Required error.
Well, how do you suppose that the browser should know how and what
credentials to send?
Unless you (a) create a session-cookie, (b) encode a session-kei into
each url or (c) use the simple but proper Basic Authentication scheme,
there is no way to accomplish this. And from what I gather you are not
doing any of that?
I supposed the browser to resend always an unique bowser session
id, which is used by apache to save certain values, like
$ENV{'REMOTE_USER'} (similiar to a session-cookie with uid and
serverbased $vars) .. Isn't this the way Basic Authentication
scheme works ? ..
Nope. When the browser gets a 401 response from the server, it will
(most likely) pop up a dialog asking the user for name and
password. These credentials gets mangled into an Authorization header
which gets sent with the next request once the user klicks OK in the
dialog. Now, you can perform your authen-code as you like.
Cookies and forms' got nothing to do with it, really.
Read more here: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2617.html
Oh OK.., now i get it: In Basic Auth-Scheme, the Useragent -after getting the
required user and pass info from Client- resends his Authorization-String in every
Requestheader
submitted to the Server. So the webserver have not to recognize an already authorized
user,
as long as he's possible to authorize the user on every request.
So there's no way, to use an http-form instead of browser's ugly authorization-box and
perfrom the
Basic Authorization (without Cookies or taking an sessionkey with the url)?
Re: caching questions
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:05:00 +0300, Stas Bekman wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: Cache::Mmap (which I wrote) isn't threadsafe, but should work OK in a forking MPM. If anyone wants to contribute code to make it threadsafe (preferably without impacting single-threaded performance too much), I'll be very grateful. I'd do it myself, but I've never used threads, so I'm bound to get it wrong. I haven't looked at the module's implementation, but if you have a C-level thread-safety issues, you may consider using libapr which provides a thread-safe mmap API. No, it's perl-level stuff at the point that matters. Currently, it uses fine grained file locking to prevent concurrent accesses from other processes, but as far as I understand it, this won't prevent concurrent accesses from other threads in the same process. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you expect me to implement it? No, Mister Schwern, I expect you to DIE! -- Michael G Schwern in p5p
Re: cookies and POST in pure MP2?
Egor Korablev wrote: Hi How can I write and get cookies and get POST data (text) under MP2 handler without using apache::compat? You can either use libapreq, which is _almost_ there :) or hack yuor own bits up cribbed from CGI.pm or the test stuff in the mp2 test suite. That's what I'm using at the moment while assisting as best I can with the libapreq development. If you look through the archives for this list you'll find lots of useful bits pieces. Carl
Re: Apache 1.3.27 configure error with mod_perl 1.28, perl 5.8.0, gcc 3.3 on Solaris 2.8
At 05:09 PM 7/22/2003 -0500, Bill Weinman wrote: At 04:45 PM 7/22/2003, Chris Fabri wrote: I'm not even getting as far as the make when I get the error.If I build mod_perl separately, and remove all references to these flags from the makefiles, and the run apache's config, I still get this error during configuration. Where do you find those flags in the makefiles? I don't see them anywhere in my copy. The are added to CCDLFLAGS and LDDLFAGS.They aren't in the src anywhere before perl Makefile.PL, so they are created based on something. there's also no reference to /usr/ccs/bin/ar before I create the Makefile, I'm confused as to where it's grabbing this variable, since I've removed /usr/ccs/bin/from the path and only have the path for the GNU binutils in the path./usr/ccs/bin/ar shows up in the Makefiles for FULL_AR and within the CCFLAGS line.chris
RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)
Hi, I've been considering using a template system for an app that I'm working, but decided against it as the designers who would be putting the actual pages together (look n feel) use Adobe GoLive which does 'bad things' to non-html stuff (at least in my experience). What i've done is just use completely external html files with html-compliant comments indicating the data field. (example !-- APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME --). My application just reads in the html on startup and does a series of substition statements over the file as necessary to replace the comments with the actual data. Thus, each type of page has one base html (or html file pieces) that are merged with each other and data as necessary allowing all logic to be kept in the program. It's certainly not the most robust system in the world, but it's simple and compatible with existing skill sets and design tools. Also, it only reads those html files once at startup so if you change designs on the fly the application needs to be restarted. I'll be adding a function to either stat the files before using the cached version or just automatically reload the files every 15 minutes regardless of changes to eliminate the SIGHUP issue. Please do note that I'm only expecting, on the VERY high side, a few thousand users to be hitting it each day. good luck, bill -Original Message- From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2003-07-23 4:00 AM To: Patrick Galbraith Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: templating system opinions (axkit?) On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Patrick Galbraith wrote: Anyone on this list use AxKit? I'm curious how it pans out. I like the idea of XSLT/XML, though I find myself trying to read between the lines of hype vs. something that's actually very useful. I don't know, so I don't have any opinions. I do know I'd like to use XSLT/XML so as to have a project to use it for, hence learn it. I'm just about to roll out a site using AxKit that has to do about 3 million hits/day out of the box. The main reason I like AxKit is it prevents me from screwing up and creating XSS bugs, because everything has to be well formed. I almost never have to use html or URL encode/decode functions - I just write straight perl code. I barely notice that I'm using XML. It's also worth noting that XSLT is a portable skill, with lots of great offline tools. It's also worth saying: never listen to hype. Evaluate solutions based on your criteria. AxKit matches mine but it doesn't mean it will match yours. Matt. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance.
RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Hauck, William B. wrote: What i've done is just use completely external html files with html-compliant comments indicating the data field. (example !-- APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME --). My application just reads in the html on startup and does a series of substition statements over the file as necessary to replace the comments with the actual data. Thus, each type of page has one base html (or html file pieces) that are merged with each other and data as necessary allowing all logic to be kept in the program. Change that to: !-- TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME -- and you can use HTML::Template! You'll also get loops, includes, and simple conditionals should you ever need them. -sam
RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)
Change that to: !-- TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME -- You mean TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME don't you? Or did I miss the secret stealth hide-your-tags-in-html-comments feature? :-) -Fran
RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)
What you have created for your own use is almost exactly what HTML::Template does. We have used it for a year without any major problems between us and the HTML designer. Its fast and supports loops and if statements. Its probably worth your while to check it out. As far as XSLT goes, we're moving to it now (XML::LibXSLT) and its making our life much easier. Our designer doesnt mind learning it, esp. after showing him what it can do. Marc Slagle Whapps, LLC. On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 10:27, Hauck, William B. wrote: Hi, I've been considering using a template system for an app that I'm working, but decided against it as the designers who would be putting the actual pages together (look n feel) use Adobe GoLive which does 'bad things' to non-html stuff (at least in my experience). What i've done is just use completely external html files with html-compliant comments indicating the data field. (example !-- APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME --). My application just reads in the html on startup and does a series of substition statements over the file as necessary to replace the comments with the actual data. Thus, each type of page has one base html (or html file pieces) that are merged with each other and data as necessary allowing all logic to be kept in the program.
Re: cookies and POST in pure MP2?
Carl Brewer wrote: Egor Korablev wrote: Hi How can I write and get cookies and get POST data (text) under MP2 handler without using apache::compat? You can either use libapreq, which is _almost_ there :) or hack yuor own bits up cribbed from CGI.pm or the test stuff in the mp2 test suite. That's what I'm using at the moment while assisting as best I can with the libapreq development. If you look through the archives for this list you'll find lots of useful bits pieces. probably you can just use CGI.pm. Carl doesn't want to use it, so he had to go to the pains to extract the wanted bits from it ;) make sure that you are using the latest CGI.pm. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)
Hauck, William B. wrote: Hi, snip / I'll be adding a function to And then you'll be adding a function to..., and then possibly a function to..., and then you'll need it to... Pretty soon, you will have spent hundreds of hours developing a templating system that you throw away in favor of one of the tried and true templating systems that are available. Of course I may be wrong. Your needs may be very simple, and may not change over time. But you may want to ask around on this list to see how many folks have rolled their own templating system and thrown it away. Of course there are folks on this list who haven't thrown theirs away, and have worked hard to make them robust, stable and performant. Thats why we take advantage of their work ;-) bill -- Douglas -Original Message- From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2003-07-23 4:00 AM To: Patrick Galbraith Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: templating system opinions (axkit?) On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Patrick Galbraith wrote: Anyone on this list use AxKit? I'm curious how it pans out. I like the idea of XSLT/XML, though I find myself trying to read between the lines of hype vs. something that's actually very useful. I don't know, so I don't have any opinions. I do know I'd like to use XSLT/XML so as to have a project to use it for, hence learn it. I'm just about to roll out a site using AxKit that has to do about 3 million hits/day out of the box. The main reason I like AxKit is it prevents me from screwing up and creating XSS bugs, because everything has to be well formed. I almost never have to use html or URL encode/decode functions - I just write straight perl code. I barely notice that I'm using XML. It's also worth noting that XSLT is a portable skill, with lots of great offline tools. It's also worth saying: never listen to hype. Evaluate solutions based on your criteria. AxKit matches mine but it doesn't mean it will match yours. Matt. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance.
Re: templating system opinions (axkit?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Change that to: !-- TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME -- You mean TMPL_VAR APPNAME_USER_FIRST_NAME don't you? Or did I miss the secret stealth hide-your-tags-in-html-comments feature? :-) You missed it: http://search.cpan.org/author/SAMTREGAR/HTML-Template-2.6/Template.pm#NOTES - Perrin
Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules have been so added. Especially since I think I read recently where the very popular Template::Toolkit can be used by CGI::Application in lieu of HTML::Template. --- Dave Baker
RE: templating system opinions (axkit?)
You missed it: http://search.cpan.org/author/SAMTREGAR/HTML-Template-2.6/Temp late.pm#NOTES Ah. When the section begins If you're a fanatic about valid HTML it becomes more clear why I missed that. :-) Thanks, Fran
Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
Dave == Dave Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and Dave HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a Dave software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and Dave distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules Dave have been so added. Maybe because it competes with OpenInteract, which is far more established. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
Hi, That was really interesting to look at. OpenInteract is really impressive. I guess there is always a cost to having a big do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than what CGI::Application offers out of the box, but it may well end up being worthwhile to just extend rather than convert. I really appreciate the simple philosophy that HTML::Template and CGI::Application follow. One question, how do you judge that OpenInteract is more established? Is does look like it is actively developed, but I never heard of it before, and I couldn't find much indication of how popular it is. Thanks, Eric At 09:23 AM 2003-07-23, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Dave == Dave Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and Dave HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a Dave software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and Dave distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules Dave have been so added. Maybe because it competes with OpenInteract, which is far more established. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! Lead Programmer D.M. Contact Management 250.383.0836
Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Eric wrote: do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than There's a fine book about it. www.masonbook.com Just an unbiased opinion ;) -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
Eric wrote: That was really interesting to look at. OpenInteract is really impressive. I guess there is always a cost to having a big do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than what CGI::Application offers out of the box, but it may well end up being worthwhile to just extend rather than convert. I really appreciate the simple philosophy that HTML::Template and CGI::Application follow. OpenInteract definitely does more for you. But it also has (IMO) a fairly sophisticated way to distribute standalone applications -- including data structures, initial data, security settings, templates and (oh yeah) the actual perl code -- and plug them into another OI server. OI 1.x ties you to the Template Toolkit, but 2.x (a big improvement now in beta) allows you to use whatever templating engine you like. You lose a ton of functionality, but HTML::Template folks seem to like it that way :-) One question, how do you judge that OpenInteract is more established? Is does look like it is actively developed, but I never heard of it before, and I couldn't find much indication of how popular it is. Randal's 'far more established' may be premature :-) Taking a strict time perspective: from Backpan it looks like CGI::Application was first released to CPAN in July 2000, while OI was first released in February 2001. (I'd thought it was October 2000, but it's funny the tricks your memory will play.) As to other definitions of 'established' I haven't followed CGI::Application development to say either way. There have been more articles published on CGI::Application and it seems to have a larger userbase, partly because it's easier to get started with and wrap your head around everything it does. Classic trade-off :-) Good luck! Chris -- Chris Winters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.
Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection witheither HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)
Dave Rolsky wrote: There's a fine book about it. www.masonbook.com Just an unbiased opinion ;) Hey, I'd be happy to write a book about OpenInteract ;-) Chris -- Chris Winters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.
Debugging mod_perl with ptkdb
I followed the advice on the mod_perl guide to try setting up remote
debugging of mod_perl with ptkdb, and I've been trying to solve the
remaining problems.
http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/debug.html#ptkdb_and_Interactive_mod_perl_Debugging
I now have ptkdb working in Apache multi-server mode without -X (-X works
too), popping up a new ptkdb window on the remote host for each request.
This required patches to both Apache::DB and Devel::ptkdb.
Devel::ptkdb-1.1086 had a line which prevented the window from appearing
unless the filename matched $0. Since $0 is httpd under Apache, it never
matched. I also added some code to emit a warning and continue running
without the window if the connection to the X server is refused.
For Apache::DB I added a new method handler for ptkdb, since the handler
turned out almost completely different from the one for the default
debugger.
Patches attached for Devel::ptkdb-1.1086 and Apache::DB-0.06.
~ John Williams
--- ptkdb.pm2003/07/23 17:05:20 1.1
+++ ptkdb.pm2003/07/23 17:51:09
@@ -1105,8 +1105,21 @@
# Main Window
-
+eval {
$self-{main_window} = MainWindow-new() ;
+};
+if ($@) {
+ my $err = $@;
+ my $r = eval { Apache-request }; # check if running under mod_perl
+ undef $@;
+ if ($r $err =~ m/Xlib: connection .*? refused|Xlib: Client is not
authorized|couldn't connect to display/) {
+ $DB::connection_refused = 1;
+ $self-{main_window} = undef;
+ warn($err); # log the problem
+return;
+ }
+ die $err;
+}
$self-{main_window}-geometry($ENV{'PTKDB_GEOMETRY'} || 800x600) ;
$self-setup_options() ; # must be done after MainWindow and before other frames
are setup
@@ -1237,8 +1250,9 @@
$DB::window-{'event'} = 'run' ;
$self-{current_file} = ; # force a file reset
- $self-{'main_window'}-destroy ;
+ $self-{'main_window'}-destroy if $self-{'main_window'};
$self-{'main_window'} = undef ;
+ $DB::connection_refused = undef; # allow another try
}
sub setup_menu_bar {
@@ -4048,7 +4062,12 @@
$^W = $saveW ;
unless( $DB::ptkdb::isInitialized ) {
- return if( $filename ne $0 ) ; # not in our target file
+ if ( $filename ne $0 ) { # not in our target file
+# check if running under mod_perl
+ my $r = eval { Apache-request };
+ undef $@;
+ return unless $r;
+ }
DB::Initialize($filename) ;
}
@@ -4063,6 +4082,11 @@
return ;
}
+ if ( $DB::connection_refused ) { # X to remote host failed
+ $@ = $DB::save_err ;
+ return ;
+ }
+
$DB::window-setup_main_window() unless $DB::window-{'main_window'} ;
$DB::window-EnterActions() ;
--- DB.pm 2003/07/23 16:59:07 1.1
+++ DB.pm 2003/07/23 17:03:29
@@ -39,6 +39,34 @@
return 0;
}
+
+sub ptkdb ($$) {
+my ($class,$r) = @_;
+
+init();
+
+# need to have a list of authorized remote hosts
+$ENV{DISPLAY} = $r-get_remote_host.':0.0';
+$DB::connection_refused = 0; # try try again
+require 'Devel/ptkdb.pm';
+$DB::single = 1;
+# bug workaround? Pressing Return button at toplevel makes ptkdb hang.
+$DB::subroutine_depth = 0 ;
+$DB::step_over_depth = -1 ;
+
+if (ref $r) {
+$SIG{INT} = \DB::dbint_handler;
+$r-register_cleanup(sub {
+$SIG{INT} = \DB::ApacheSIGINT();
+$DB::single = 0; # do not debug during withdraw
+$DB::window-close_ptkdb_window;
+});
+}
+
+return 0;
+}
+
+
1;
__END__
@@ -93,6 +121,18 @@
SetHandler perl-script
PerlHandler My::handler
/Location
+
+=item ptkdb
+
+This is an Apache Method Handler which will start the ptkdb graphical debugger.
+Devel::ptkdb and Tk modules are expected to be installed.
+Example configuration:
+
+ Location /my-handler
+ PerlFixupHandler Apache::DB-ptkdb
+ SetHandler perl-script
+ PerlHandler My::handler
+ /Location
=back
RE: mod_perl installation problem...
Was a 'make' of libapreq successful, before the 'make test'? And also, does the user you're running the tests as have the proper permissions to be running tests within /usr/src/libapreq-1.2/? Make appeared to be successful yes (afaik)... I did wonder about the permissions thing but I tried as root to no avail.. Kidnest, Jim
Re: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26
Tresp, Wilfried wrote:
Hi,
works now, thanks, next I'll try it with Apache2. AuthenNTLM was the only reason I have not tried it yet :)
Regards, Wilfried
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Shannon Eric Peevey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 20:50
An: Tresp, Wilfried
Betreff: Re: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26
Tresp, Wilfried wrote:
Hello Shannon Eric,
as far as I understood the changes between Apache::AuthenNTLM 2.01 and the
older 0.23 from Gerald Richter your enhancements should make it possible to
use the modul with modperl 1.26 and modperl 2 also, is this right?
I tried to install your version with Apache 1.26, mod_perl 1.27 running
Solaris 8 with Perl 5.6.1 but every time a page is called which requires
authentication I get an internal Server Error and the error_log shows the
following entry:
[Wed Jul 23 20:12:36 2003] [error] Can't locate object method log via
package Apache (perhaps you forgot to load Apac
he?) at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris/Apache/AuthenNTLM.pm line
598.
Do you know what happens?
Regards,
Wilfried Tresp
Hi!
Try this file. Just replace your AuthenNTLM.pm file that the install
placed in your perl modules directory with this one. It seems that
there was a problem here:
if ($type == 1)
{
597 --# my $log = $r-log;
my $nonce = $self - get_nonce ($r) ;
in the first handler subroutine at line 597... I have commented out the
line, and it should work now.
Thanks for the heads-up :)
speeves
cws
Great!!! I will upload a fixed version to CPAN, and it should be
available after a few hours.
speeves
cws
Application design patterns
Hi, All Are there some common application design patterns using mod_perl + TT2 ? Any links would be greatly appreciated Sincerely Alex
Sharing objects
Hi, All again :) That's not the last my post :) What are common patterns of sharing data beetween apache processes, for example I'd like to share some indexes. Also, I'd like to avoid complex sycronyzation process (currently IPC::Sahreable seem to be the right thing) Sincerely Alex
Re: Application design patterns
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 18:18, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: Are there some common application design patterns using mod_perl + TT2 ? Any links would be greatly appreciated There are tutorials on the Template Toolkit site, a recent perl.com article about TT and Class::DBI, and my article: http://perl.apache.org/docs/tutorials/apps/scale_etoys/etoys.html - Perrin
Re: Sharing objects
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 18:21, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: What are common patterns of sharing data beetween apache processes, for example I'd like to share some indexes. Also, I'd like to avoid complex sycronyzation process (currently IPC::Sahreable seem to be the right thing) No, IPC::Shareable is slow. You are better off with one of these: MLDBM::Sync Cache::Mmap BerkeleyDB (with native locking) Cache::FileCache IPC::MM - Perrin
Re: Sharing objects
Hello Perrin No, IPC::Shareable is slow. You are better off with one of these: MLDBM::Sync Cache::Mmap BerkeleyDB (with native locking) Cache::FileCache Actually I think to use Cache::FileCache as the storage backend. But I need to have Cache keys to be sorted by various criteria. I strive to avoid re-reading Cache::* keys and sort them each time, but to share somehow sorted lists beetween apache processes (as they could be huge). However, having an extra key like keys_sorted_by_* in Cache::FileCache will probably solve the problem. Thanks IPC::MM Alex
Re: AW: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26
Tresp, Wilfried wrote: Hi Shannon Eric, fine it's already there. I try to run the module with Apache 2.0.47 but it didn't work here. There seems to be problems with my @INC variable but I can not figure out how to fix it. When I try to start the daemon I see only the following error message: # /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start [Thu Jul 24 01:27:30 2003] [error] Can't locate Apache/AuthenSmb.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris/Apache2 ./Apache2 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl . /usr/local/apache2/ /usr/local/apache2/lib/perl) at (eval 4) line 3. [Thu Jul 24 01:27:30 2003] [error] Can't load Perl module Apache::AuthenSmb for server netweb.de.kworld.kpmg.com:8000, exiting... The module AuthenSmb.pm doesn't exist but I can not locate the problem. Do you have any hints for me? Hi! Looks to me like you are trying to load Michael Parker's Apache::AuthenSmb module... I don't believe that that mod is ported to mp2. The Authen::Smb module is included with the Apache::AuthenNTLM module, so should have been installed when you ran the script. If you change the module that you are trying to load Apache::AuthenNTLM, does that help? speeves cws PS Can you reply to the modperl mailing list? Thanks :)
Re: AW: AW: Apache:AuthenNTLM 2.01 with modperl 1.26
Tresp, Wilfried wrote:
Hi Shannon Eric,
forget my last mail. It is simply to late. After changing PerlModule to
PerlResponseHandler in httpd.conf everything works now. Great!
Only little problem is that I see many error_log entries like the following:
[12163] the $self-{smbhandle} is 903424
ntlmdebug is set to 0
Maybe the line 198 of AuthenNTLM.pm is the reason for this:
print STDERR [$$] the \$self-{smbhandle} is $self-{smbhandle}\n;
Regards, Wilfried
Hi!
Glad that it's working now :) The entries in the error log are just my
debugging crap that I was using when I was porting. I will clean up the
code a little more and upload a new version tomorrow.
Thanks for all of your input!!!
speeves
cws
RE: must I use mod-perl
that's the point - there is plenty of documentation. When you encounter some problem you gotta search the docs until you find solution. Docs are pretty long so it takes time. Btw from what I read here it seems that it's just me who had problems with installing mod_perl. Oskar -Original Message- From: Perrin Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:41 PM To: Oskar Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: must I use mod-perl On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 16:53, Oskar wrote: Install it if you have a lot of time. It took me week to config it and month for rewritting scripts. Oskar, Is there something specific that would have helped you get going faster? Did you find the documentation you needed? - Perrin
Re: Sharing objects
Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: Actually I think to use Cache::FileCache as the storage backend. But I need to have Cache keys to be sorted by various criteria. I strive to avoid re-reading Cache::* keys and sort them each time, but to share somehow sorted lists beetween apache processes (as they could be huge). However, having an extra key like keys_sorted_by_* in Cache::FileCache will probably solve the problem. It could, but if that's a large list it could be slow. Cache::FileCache will serialize each cache value with Storable, and in this case the value will be one big array. A different approach would be store a separate BerkeleyDB index as a BTree with a custom sorting function, or share your array as a BerkeleyDB recno database (serial records accessed like an array). - Perrin
Re: [mp2] beta of Apache-AuthenNTLM uploaded
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:51, Shannon Eric Peevey wrote: The uploaded file Apache-AuthenNTLM-2.01.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/S/SP/SPEEVES/Apache-AuthenNTLM-2.01.tar.gz size: 50644 bytes md5: f175a98ea668e81df9cc8d6db629facf The purpose of this module is to perform a user authentication via Mircosoft's NTLM protocol. (This module also implements Basic Authentication for all other browsers ). You may download this beta version of Apache-AuthenNTLM from CPAN. It is not a replacement for the existing version on CPAN, but instead will work with either version of modperl. Please, feel free to download it and send me any bug reports... :) I have installed the 2.01 version, I did find a bug in Apache-AuthenNTLM-0.23 and it still exists in this version. The bug was that if a person had a : (colon) in their password it did not authenticate them. This bug still seems to exist. Cheers. Brett -- Brett Hales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
