[Agenda] Team management and Project tracking - Success Story
Hello! We just finished writing first version of our system Agenda - http://agenda.samara.net. First of all I want to say about our framework - Apache::Site, which we used in all our current projects (about 20). If you don't interested just skip to next paragraph. http://agenda.samara.net/Apache-Site.pm It provides Framework for Template::Toolkit modules... Combination of Apache::Site and Temlate::Toolkit is more powerful and flexible for us than any other solutions on this page http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/08/21/templating.html?page=4 Module parses URI, determine handler from it, has a caching capabilities... In short word, it is our template for mod_perl handler, which works with Template::Toolkit. We wrote about this module here, but didn't recieve any responses... I think lack of documentation is a problem... or my gruesome english :) Let's come back to Agenda... It is pure model-view-controller application. There are Agenda.pm - Template::Toolkit - Apache::Agenda.pm modules - therefore Agenda is very flexible. It works on Linux box now. It has a multi-language kernel. It has 2 languages now - english russian, but we didn't write english Help yet :( Translation to other language or correcting of interface may be performed from the same WEB interface. It is in production for my studio (http://www.webzavod.ru/) during 2 months. Productivity rised greatly, president of our companies is happy - he gets reports when he wants, I'm happy - I do not write these reports. And delicate topic... Our chief wants to sell this application... Strange! :)) Price is $590 for one installation and unlimited licenses now, but it requires Oracle now - we want to migrate the application to free database (mySQL). Writing complex systems with powerful databases such Oracle is much simpler on developer stage. MSProject 2002 with comparable functionality (I saw MS Project - we provide all basic functionality, I dont know what I need else from Agenda now) but better interface :) will costs for our company (50 employees) --- MSProject Server 2002 - $1500 + 50*$599 for Microsoft Project Standart = $31500, or MSProject Server 2002 - $1500 + 50*$170 for Web Access Licenses = $1 + price for required MS SQL Server $1500 minimum or $11000 maximum I want to contribute my work to Open Source Community, but it breaks my company policy :-/ I have a right to pass sources with my gratitude for free to contributors of technologies we used (for own usage) - Apache, Perl, mod_perl, DBI, DBD::mysql, Template::Toolkit, Apache::ASP (we used it early), AxKit... Sorry if forget someone. May these people advise how to separate free version of the system for Open Source Community and not much harm sales of the system? PS: We're redesigning the interface just now. Some pages are different from each other :) Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Agenda] Team management and Project tracking - Success Story
First of all I want to say about our framework - Apache::Site, which we used in all our current projects (about 20). If you don't interested just skip to next paragraph. http://agenda.samara.net/Apache-Site.pm Did you actually release Apache::Site on CPAN? Couldn't find it there. We did not release it on CPAN. We announced it in mod_perl list first and wanted to get offers for naming the Module (Apache::Site sounds too much pretentious :) ). We consider that code is not good as possible and thought gurus will point to weak parts of code. After all, gurus can say - it is comletely useless module, because there are better solutions and ... bla bla bla... :) We don't want to publish JustAnotherSillyApacheFramework :) And another, main trouble - permanent lack of time for documenting :(( Let's come back to Agenda... It is pure model-view-controller application. There are Agenda.pm - Template::Toolkit - Apache::Agenda.pm modules - therefore Agenda is very flexible. It works on Linux box now. It has a multi-language kernel. It has 2 languages now - english russian, but we didn't write english Help yet :( Translation to other language or correcting of interface may be performed from the same WEB interface. It is in production for my studio (http://www.webzavod.ru/) during 2 months. Productivity rised greatly, president of our companies is happy - he gets reports when he wants, I'm happy - I do not write these reports. This looks quite interesting. The company I work for is constantly looking for some useable workflow-, ressource- and processmananagement, erm. whatever you call it :) And delicate topic... Our chief wants to sell this application... Strange! :)) Price is $590 for one installation and unlimited licenses now, but it requires Oracle now - we want to migrate the application to free database (mySQL). Writing complex systems with powerful databases such Oracle is much simpler on developer stage. I think the price is reasonable - but the requirment of an oracle installation isn't really a good point for us. :) Btw, I would beg you to give PostgreSQL a shot before you port Agenda to MySQL, as PostgreSQL is far nearer - in terms of features and warm fuzzy feelings - to Oracle as MySQL is (I don't want to get into advocacy here, but I wouldn't say that MySQL is a RDMBS at all). Agreed, realization of all business logic outside database is real PITA, just mySQL is more popular... PS: Forgot to say that there is another way - Application Service Providing. Just now 3 independent system works on http://agenda.samara.net - Demo Russian, Demo English and Production version of Company... It should be mch cheaper, but there is another bottleneck - not all companies will agree to post payments for projects and other confidential information to Application which hosted somewhere in snowy Russia with bears on the streets : Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache::Site [WAS] Re: Segmentation fault
We already did this! The question is - with 2 apache config, proxy-front-end apache logs every request, even if power apache daemon crushed with segfault, simple-proxy daemon logs request with URI and 502 status. We know time of segfault and can find 502 request in access logs with such time, and we can find out a request, wich causes seg fault. All right. It's working for 2 apache config. If we use simple 1 apache daemon, I think, we will have in logs segfault message only. Is there way to find out segfault request for simple configuration ? Provide a custom loghandler, which runs before the content generation phase or whichever phase the segfault happens at. Though you won't know the status, but there is nothing you can do after segfault. Or I can think of two steps handler, which let's say logs something before the potentially segfaulting handler and the status after the handler is run. So in case of segfaults the status will be missing. (First of all, sorry for gruesome english) Thank you for response. As I understand, with simple configuration we should assign global URI translation (for instance) handler where we will log request's URI. After segfault we can find (via awk or other text processor) logged URI without status. Right? Huh... I think installation of mod_accel or mod_proxy front-end is simpler solution. Thank you again and I will be happy to hear some feedback from mod_perl guru about module, which was developed by my team. It's another framework and Matt Sergeant compared it with Mason although it is much simpler and we purposed other aims. Our target was to ease implementing web application as Apache handler, because, we consider web site not a collection of html generating page-scripts, (Apache::Registry, ASP and many other technix way), but whole application with one entry point - Apache handler. We think that URI processing and translating is a task of application, at any case for projects such large e-shop or central online information portal of region. Another aim was to integrate TemplateToolkit usage as standart output technique - it is excellent app, although descendant from our module can return another status (redirect and others) or generate output via another way freely. Our module helps to maintain high performance web application as pure Apache handler is fast and easy and programmer focuses on business tasks of site only. I put part of our programmer's letter below and ask - is there future for such module? | We develope the Module that will be capable of: | * use simple interface for dynamic site creating (and dynamic parts for | any almost static site); | * use simple urls with no query strings at all; | * use smart templates (standard header and footer, for example). | | That very early beta works on: | * http://www.neftechimia.ru/en/ -- business site | * http://review.samara.ru/ -- newspaper site | | Note that the module is filter-aware and on Neftechimia there is AxKit | postprocessing | (that slowers down overall request performance six(!!!) times (I think this | may be changed | with new AxKit's Provider) but simplifies site supporting for | non-professional webmaster | -- all templates may be changed through the web-interface) | | III. THE FUTURE | | Though we need some advices: | * is there any need for such thing? | * if so, which name we should choose (it's Apache::Site for now)? | * what features must it also have? | * what do you think about it? | | IV. THE CODE | | As I said above it is very early beta. No POD, Comments only. | * http://www.webzavod.ru/software/Apache-Site.tar.gz | | V. THE AUTHOR | | Gregory Grishace [gree-shah-s] Belenky | WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru/) programmer | Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segmentation fault
- Original Message - From: Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gregory Belenky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:39 AM Subject: Re: Segmentation fault Hi there, On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Gregory Belenky wrote: Just found that Apache::Util::unescape_uri when gets undefined value as parameter not returns undefined value, but make SUBJ! Why that's happens? Perhaps I'm being dense, I do not understand the question. What is SUBJ? SUBJ = subject. Apache::Util has a bug which causes segemntation fault. We know this, and solve the problem - we prevent passing possible empty string to this method. if we have to use one mod_perl-powered Apache - how we can find request, that breaks server? Would it not be better to prevent the server from breaking? We already did this! The question is - with 2 apache config, proxy-front-end apache logs every request, even if power apache daemon crushed with segfault, simple-proxy daemon logs request with URI and 502 status. We know time of segfault and can find 502 request in access logs with such time, and we can find out a request, wich causes seg fault. All right. It's working for 2 apache config. If we use simple 1 apache daemon, I think, we will have in logs segfault message only. Is there way to find out segfault request for simple configuration ? 73, Ged.
Re: Apache::AuthCookie not set cookie really
Location /agenda/ SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Agenda PerlSetVar AgendaPath /agenda PerlSetVar AgendaTemplate default.inc PerlSetVar AgendaSessionDir /tmp PerlSetVar AgendaLoginScript /agenda/login/ Are you sure that last line is correct? That would send you to /agenda/login when authen_ses_key() fails, but your config below is for /LOGIN/. Location /LOGIN/ AuthType Apache::AuthCookieAgenda AuthName Agenda SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-login /Location This implies to me that you meant to have: PerlSetVar AgendaLoginScript /LOGIN/ Is this just a typo? I used Apache::Session::Counted, and know that this two modules may conflict, but when all Apache::Session::Counted staff is commented result is the same... I dont think they conflict. I've not heard any reports of that anyway. The cookie names are unique so there should be no problem there. I dont know why cookie is not set. I'd suspect something isnt right with your configuration. Have you tried turning on warn me before accepting cookies on your browser? Sometimes that helps me verify that the cookies are actually making it to the browser. What your trying to do looks to me like exactly the sort of thing AuthCookie can do. Unless I am misunderstanding your problem I dont see an AuthCookie limitation here. Please explain in more detail if I am missing the point and I will see what we can do if such a limitation does in fact exist :). Regards, Michael Schout (Apache::AuthCookie maintainer) Location /agenda/ SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Agenda PerlSetVar AgendaPath /agenda PerlSetVar AgendaTemplate default.inc PerlSetVar AgendaSessionDir /tmp PerlSetVar AgendaLoginScript /agenda/login/ . /Location Location /LOGIN/ AuthType Apache::AuthCookieAgenda AuthName Agenda SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-login /Location Problem was here - AgendaPath variable is set in /agenda.* location /LOGIN/ script, which set session key cookie header, doesn't see AgendaPath, therefore Cookie was a Apache::AuthCookieAgenda_Agenda=login:password variable path=/agenda was omitted. Explorer 6.0 doesn't set cookie without path attribute. I think, it's a good idea to make WhatEverPath required option in config. with config PerlSetVar AgendaPath /agenda Location /agenda SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Agenda PerlSetVar AgendaSessionDir /tmp PerlSetVar AgendaLoginScript /agenda/login/ . /Location Location /agendalogin/ AuthType Apache::AuthCookieAgenda AuthName Agenda SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-login /Location all works fine. Actually, as my application should be 1. simple maintained, 2. maximum count of users - 100 (employees in small software development company) 3. simultaneous login - 5-7 maximum 4. team managers work with money (project budjet, employee's payment per hour and etc) 5. good session solutions require database access while all, what I want to store in sessions, can get from the same database with no great effort I've decided to use simplest authentication module kinda Apache::DBILogin and if someone need real security - SSL. Thank you Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache::AuthCookie not set cookie really
Skipped Actually, as my application should be 1. simple maintained, 2. maximum count of users - 100 (employees in small software development company) 3. simultaneous login - 5-7 maximum 4. team managers work with money (project budjet, employee's payment per hour and etc) 5. good session solutions require database access while all, what I want to store in sessions, can get from the same database with no great effort I've decided to use simplest authentication module kinda Apache::DBILogin and if someone need real security - SSL. I meant Apache::AuthDBI of course Thank you Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache::AuthCookie not set cookie really
Hello all! Odd thing - all should works fine. I use Apache::AuthCookie for my project Agenda. I wrote descendant - Apache::AuthCookieAgenda package Apache::AuthCookieAgenda; use strict; use Apache; use Apache::Constants qw(:common); use Apache::AuthCookie; use Agenda; use vars qw($VERSION @ISA); $VERSION = substr(q$Revision: 1.1 $, 10); @ISA = qw(Apache::AuthCookie); sub authen_cred ($$\@) { my $self = shift; my $r = shift; my @creds = @_; # This would really authenticate the credentials # and return the session key. # Here I'm just using setting the session # key to the credentials and delaying authentication. # # Similar to HTTP Basic Authentication, only not base 64 encoded join(:, @creds); } sub authen_ses_key ($$$) { my $self = shift; my $r = shift; my($user, $password) = split(/:/, shift, 2); my $modeller = Agenda-new(); $r-warn(Auth - $user - $password); # Authenticate use here... $modeller-authorize($user, $password) eq OK ? $user : undef; } In conf file IfDefine power Perl use lib qw(/usr/web/inc /usr/web/dev.webzavod.ru/modules); use Apache::Agenda; use Apache::AuthCookieAgenda; /Perl PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload PerlSetVar AuthCookieDebug 10 Location /agenda/ SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Agenda PerlSetVar AgendaPath /agenda PerlSetVar AgendaTemplate default.inc PerlSetVar AgendaSessionDir /tmp PerlSetVar AgendaLoginScript /agenda/login/ AuthType Apache::AuthCookieAgenda AuthName Agenda PerlAuthenHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-authenticate PerlAuthzHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-authorize require valid-user /Location Location /LOGIN/ AuthType Apache::AuthCookieAgenda AuthName Agenda SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::AuthCookieAgenda-login /Location /IfDefine when I'm trying to access /agenda/ files I get login page, but after submit a form, I return to login page again. In logs [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] credential_0 asdasd [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] credential_1 asdasd [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] ses_key asdasd:asdasd OUT Headers goes here $VAR1 = 'Pragma'; $VAR2 = 'no-cache'; $VAR3 = 'Cache-control'; $VAR4 = 'no-cache'; $VAR5 = 'Location'; $VAR6 = '/agenda/tasks/'; Error OUT Headers goes here $VAR1 = 'Set-Cookie'; $VAR2 = 'Apache::AuthCookieAgenda_Agenda=asdasd:asdasd'; $VAR3 = 'Pragma'; $VAR4 = 'no-cache'; Redirecting... and next phase [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] auth_type Apache::AuthCookieAgenda [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] auth_name Agenda [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] ses_key_cookie Cookie field is empty here - I don't know why... Cookie is set via error headers, I know that it is correct for REDIRECT responses... ses_key_cookie is empty, therefore authen_ses_key not even requested, redirecting to login form again. [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] uri /agenda/tasks/ [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [error] auth_type Apache::AuthCookieAgenda [Mon Jan 28 12:38:35 2002] [warn] Header Dump: GET /agenda/tasks/ HTTP/1.0 Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/ms word, */* Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate Accept-Language: ru Cache-Control: no-cache Cookie: SESSION_ID=1000_56535df97f6ed52c I used Apache::Session::Counted, and know that this two modules may conflict, but when all Apache::Session::Counted staff is commented result is the same... Host: warzavod:81 Referer: http://warzavod/agenda/tasks/ User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461) X-Real-IP: 195.209.67.7 I dont know why cookie is not set. Is there anywhere comparison table for Apache::AuthCookie - Apache::AuthTicket and table for Apache::Session modules - I use Apache::Session::Counted as the single not-database solution wich I found for maintaining state with cleanup feature. Or is there anywhere cleanup example for Apache::Session - I didn't find... Apache::Session::Lock::File-clean cleans up only lock files... Apache::ASP - has a good session state algorithm with cleanup... Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AuthSession Manager [was] Apache::AuthCookie not set cookie really
managers for each department. 3. Manager can view the load of members of his department 4. Comparison of spent time for task and its real cost etc etc Application's main goals 1. Simple install. I don't want use cron jobs for cleanup - I think, it can be problem for some users. 2. Separated business and presentative logic. Application is designed as MVC (modeller-viewer-controller) in Rational Rose and even skeleton generated via rewritten RosePerl. (Agenda.pm as modeller, Template::Toolkit as viewer, Apache::Agenda as controller) Design is object-oriented. 3. Multilingual 4. Popularization of mod_perl and other brilliance technologies among Open Source community. We designed relational base for application Oracle is a chosen one, because application logic is simpler to implement with reach SQL and constraints are defined in database already. I understand that it will be problem for many people - install a Oracle, but as application is object-oriented and every table in Oracle has a own object in Agenda controller package - it is not a problem rewrite methods of objects with extended fuctionality moved from database to Controller methods for mySQL database. Users can be simple employees, managers, clients, admins Employee doesn't see anything, beside assigned to him tasks. Manager sees and update tasks for his department(s) client sees tasks of his projects Admin manages everything. I need to authorize user and don't want to query on every request is you admin, which departments you belong to etc.. I need Apache::AuthCookie (Apache::AuthTicket) and Apache::Session functionality. Apache::AuthCookie doesn't want to set cookie on redirect (see above). I have a distributed light proxy Apache and mod_perl installation of Apache. I think the best way is to combine tickets (keys) of these modules and use ticket as key for maintaining state with Apache::Session... Although... After generating ticket I can use any module to store session data which implements tied hash. Good cleanup functionality for Apache::Session can be gained with database driven version. Apache::AuthTicket also require DBI. I don't think that it is good to use the Oracle database for maintaining state or secrets for tickets. It can be slower than query indexed table even on every request for password and departments where user works. MySQL... We design this application for our company, which has a about 70 employees. I sure, such decision satisfy 98% of target auditorium for our application. Is it good to use such distributed solution for 100 clients of application ? Is there simpler and grace solution ? Thank you for any clues Sergey Polyakov aka BeerBong Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Authentications fails after upgrade to 1.3.22
Huh... i just forgot to compile in mod_auth module, and Apache::AuthenRadius doesn't require it in documentation. --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)
Re: Authentications fails after upgrade to 1.3.22
When you up grade from one version to the next version of apache ,U have to redo the passwd and user. I had the same problem when I tried updating from 1.3.12 to 1.3.19-rev1,and I re-did it. Then all where ok !,what is the version of ur mod_perl. I wrote - I upgraded it from 1.25 to 1.26 Where you using AuthGroupfile for passwd checking,... Server serves many virtual hosts and other host uses this template Location /$dir/ AuthType Basic AuthName $realm AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/conf/users_file AuthGroupFile /usr/local/apache/conf/groups_file require group $realm-$dir /Location But I dont understanrd what i should do to solve my problem --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru) Lets see what the ring has to say, Regards, Anand R www.dsmsoft.com --- BeerBong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! I use Apache::AuthenRadius for authorization - all worked fine until I upgrade Apache to 1.3.22 and mod_perl to 1.26 from Apache 1.3.19 and mod_perl 1.25 In config file ### IfDefine power # - I use this for determination which daemon processes this config. I run front-end and back-end servers. VirtualHost 195.128.133.65:* PerlPostReadRequestHandler My::ProxyRemoteAddr ServerName www.samara.net DocumentRoot /usr/web/www.samara.net/data ErrorLog /usr/web/www.samara.net/logs/ep.log Use dbi_macro Use asp_script_macro www.samara.net Directory /usr/web/www.samara.net/data/abonents/ AuthType Basic AuthName Enter your Dialup Login and Password # authenticate via Radius PerlAuthenHandler Apache::AuthenRadius PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_host ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_port ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_secret ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_timeout ... Require valid-user /Directory /VirtualHost /IfDefine ### After upgrade, if I enter correct login and password, I get Internal Server Error and ### [Tue Dec 18 16:02:52 2001] [crit] [client 195.209.67.7] configuration error: couldn't check access. No groups file?: /abonents/abo nent.asp ### in logs I checked changelog for Apache and find following for mod_auth: *) Enhancement of mod_auth to handle 'Require file-owner' and 'Require file-group'. This allows access IFF the authenticated username (from the appropriate AuthUserFile database) matches the username of the UID that owns the document (and equivalent checking for file GID and user's membership in AuthGroupFile). See the mod_auth documentation for examples. (Not supported on Windows.) [Ken Coar] I think this enhancement is responsible for such behaviour... Any comments ? PS: Another improvement is the allow from 195.128.133.110 # Greg Home - generate warning - not supported comment... All was fine before 1.3.22 PPS: I downgrade to 1.3.19 until solve this problems. --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru) = Regards, Anand_R, No:25(old no:13)Nungambakkam High Road, DSM Soft(P)Ltd, Chennai.INDIA - 600 034. Ph No:825 0183/825 3853/825 3835
Authentications fails after upgrade to 1.3.22
Hello all! I use Apache::AuthenRadius for authorization - all worked fine until I upgrade Apache to 1.3.22 and mod_perl to 1.26 from Apache 1.3.19 and mod_perl 1.25 In config file ### IfDefine power # - I use this for determination which daemon processes this config. I run front-end and back-end servers. VirtualHost 195.128.133.65:* PerlPostReadRequestHandler My::ProxyRemoteAddr ServerName www.samara.net DocumentRoot /usr/web/www.samara.net/data ErrorLog /usr/web/www.samara.net/logs/ep.log Use dbi_macro Use asp_script_macro www.samara.net Directory /usr/web/www.samara.net/data/abonents/ AuthType Basic AuthName Enter your Dialup Login and Password # authenticate via Radius PerlAuthenHandler Apache::AuthenRadius PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_host ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_port ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_secret ... PerlSetVar Auth_Radius_timeout ... Require valid-user /Directory /VirtualHost /IfDefine ### After upgrade, if I enter correct login and password, I get Internal Server Error and ### [Tue Dec 18 16:02:52 2001] [crit] [client 195.209.67.7] configuration error: couldn't check access. No groups file?: /abonents/abo nent.asp ### in logs I checked changelog for Apache and find following for mod_auth: *) Enhancement of mod_auth to handle 'Require file-owner' and 'Require file-group'. This allows access IFF the authenticated username (from the appropriate AuthUserFile database) matches the username of the UID that owns the document (and equivalent checking for file GID and user's membership in AuthGroupFile). See the mod_auth documentation for examples. (Not supported on Windows.) [Ken Coar] I think this enhancement is responsible for such behaviour... Any comments ? PS: Another improvement is the allow from 195.128.133.110 # Greg Home - generate warning - not supported comment... All was fine before 1.3.22 PPS: I downgrade to 1.3.19 until solve this problems. --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)
Why libperl.so?
Hello! It may be very stupid problem, but I stuck - hard day. I installed Perl. Perl 5.6.1 with all default options on Debian Linux 2.4.13 - btw, it is a another problem, but 4 make test for Perl FAILED lib/dirhand and other, I found that kernerl 2.4.x is responsible for it, but didn't find how to resolve the problem. Also, I decided to renew other soft. upgrade kernel to 2.5.16. mod_perl 1.5.26 and apache 1.3.22 String for mod_perl is the same as earlier -- perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.22/src \ DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 -- when make -- === src/main cc -c -I.. -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -I../os/unix -I../in clude -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/loc al/include -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` gen_test_char.c cc -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/i nclude -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` -o gen_test_char gen_test_char.o -lm -lcrypt -rdynamic -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/lo cal/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -lperl -lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcryp t -lutil ./gen_test_char test_char.h ./gen_test_char: error in loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [test_char.h] Error 127 -- Why libperl.so ? I want statically linked mod_perl. Perl ENV -- Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1) configuration: Platform: osname=linux, osvers=2.4.13, archname=i686-linux uname='linux warzavod 2.4.13 #1 wed oct 31 18:17:06 samt 2001 i686 unknown ' config_args='-d' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef usemultiplicity=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef Compiler: cc='cc', ccflags ='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFS ET_BITS=64', optimize='-O2', cppflags='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include' ccversion='', gccversion='2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)', gccosandvers='' intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib libs=-lnsl -lndbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil libc=/lib/libc-2.1.3.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-rdynamic' cccdlflags='-fpic', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES Built under linux Compiled at Nov 28 2001 11:57:27 @INC: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl . -- Thanx in advance... --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)
Re: Why libperl.so?
Hello! It may be very stupid problem, but I stuck - hard day. I installed Perl. Perl 5.6.1 with all default options on Debian Linux 2.4.13 - btw, it is a another problem, but 4 make test for Perl FAILED lib/dirhand and other, I found that kernerl 2.4.x is responsible for it, but didn't find how to resolve the problem. Also, I decided to renew other soft. upgrade kernel to 2.5.16. 2.4.16 of course :) mod_perl 1.5.26 and apache 1.3.22 String for mod_perl is the same as earlier -- perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.22/src \ DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 -- when make -- === src/main cc -c -I.. -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -I../os/unix -I../in clude -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/loc al/include -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` gen_test_char.c cc -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/i nclude -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` -o gen_test_char gen_test_char.o -lm -lcrypt -rdynamic -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/lo cal/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -lperl -lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcryp t -lutil ./gen_test_char test_char.h ./gen_test_char: error in loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [test_char.h] Error 127 -- Why libperl.so ? I want statically linked mod_perl. Perl ENV -- Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1) configuration: Platform: osname=linux, osvers=2.4.13, archname=i686-linux uname='linux warzavod 2.4.13 #1 wed oct 31 18:17:06 samt 2001 i686 unknown ' config_args='-d' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef usemultiplicity=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef Compiler: cc='cc', ccflags ='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFS ET_BITS=64', optimize='-O2', cppflags='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include' ccversion='', gccversion='2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)', gccosandvers='' intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib libs=-lnsl -lndbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil libc=/lib/libc-2.1.3.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-rdynamic' cccdlflags='-fpic', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES Built under linux Compiled at Nov 28 2001 11:57:27 @INC: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl . -- Thanx in advance... --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)
Re: Why libperl.so?
Sorry, it is necessary for mod_perl now ? I want to compile statically as many modules as I can. --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru) try recompiling perl with sh Configure -Duseshrplib this will build the libperl.so file that apache needs -Original Message- From: BeerBong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:31 PM To: mod-perl Subject: Why libperl.so? Hello! It may be very stupid problem, but I stuck - hard day. I installed Perl. Perl 5.6.1 with all default options on Debian Linux 2.4.13 - btw, it is a another problem, but 4 make test for Perl FAILED lib/dirhand and other, I found that kernerl 2.4.x is responsible for it, but didn't find how to resolve the problem. Also, I decided to renew other soft. upgrade kernel to 2.5.16. mod_perl 1.5.26 and apache 1.3.22 String for mod_perl is the same as earlier -- perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.22/src \ DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 PERL_MARK_WHERE=1 EVERYTHING=1 -- when make -- === src/main cc -c -I.. -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -I../os/unix -I../in clude -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/loc al/include -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` gen_test_char.c cc -DLINUX=22 -DMOD_PERL -DUSE_PERL_SSI -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/i nclude -DUSE_HSREGEX -DNO_DL_NEEDED -DPERL_MARK_WHERE=1 `../apaci` -o gen_test_char gen_test_char.o -lm -lcrypt -rdynamic -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/lo cal/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux/CORE -lperl -lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcryp t -lutil ./gen_test_char test_char.h ./gen_test_char: error in loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [test_char.h] Error 127 -- Why libperl.so ? I want statically linked mod_perl. Perl ENV -- Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 6 subversion 1) configuration: Platform: osname=linux, osvers=2.4.13, archname=i686-linux uname='linux warzavod 2.4.13 #1 wed oct 31 18:17:06 samt 2001 i686 unknown ' config_args='-d' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef usemultiplicity=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef Compiler: cc='cc', ccflags ='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFS ET_BITS=64', optimize='-O2', cppflags='-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include' ccversion='', gccversion='2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)', gccosandvers='' intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', lseeksize=8 alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib' libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib libs=-lnsl -lndbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil perllibs=-lnsl -ldl -lm -lc -lposix -lcrypt -lutil libc=/lib/libc-2.1.3.so, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-rdynamic' cccdlflags='-fpic', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib' Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES Built under linux Compiled at Nov 28 2001 11:57:27 @INC: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl . -- Thanx in advance... --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov chief of WebZavod (http://www.webzavod.ru)
Re: Template or XML?
if I wrong, there are many other solutions, which do the same more efficient and simpler. This idealogy (separate code and html) is far away from original ASP idea _embed_ code into HTML. Of course, there are ASP OO model, it is cool, but mod_perl API not so difficult to learn. In most cases, use of pure Apache Perl API is more simpler and efficient than Apache::ASP for us. --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
Re: Template or XML = OpenInteract?
We have also heard something about OpenInteract, which is based on Template Toolkit - may be it would be simplier to use it? It does sound like a possible good choice for your purposes, since it combines a basic application structure with Template Toolkit integration and an object/relational mapping tool (SPOPS) for data management. It seems to be interesting application. We developed many content management systems for sites with more than one access rights levels and more than one databases as storage of content (MySQL and Oracle, if be precise). May be we will use it, although it (SPOPS-0.50) don't want be compiled on my home WinXP environment. Errors while SPOPS make test --- t\30_dbiok 4/18se of uninitialized value in string at C:/TEMP/SPOPS- 0.50/blib/lib/SPOPS/DBI.pm line 634. SPOPS::DBI::_save_insert (634) Insert failed! Args: $VAR1 = { 'db' = bless( {}, 'DBI::db' ), 'is_add' = 1, 'table' = 'spops_test', 'skip_cache' = 1, 'field' = [ 'spops_goop', 'spops_id', 'spops_name', 'spops_num' ], 'value' = [ 'oopie doop', 42, 'MyProject', 241 ], 'return_sth' = 1 }; --- and if I make install, I get a similar errors while do oi_manage --package=INITIAL install_sql Personally, the way I would do this is to write the config stuff you're doing in XML as straight Perl data structures (nested hashes and arrays). I would do all of the database processing in standard Perl modules, and only use TT to display results and editing forms. If your TT templates seem messy, it may be because you're trying to do too much application logic in them. It's best to avoid things like the DBI plugin and do all the real work before you run the template. All logic performed in Perl modules, templates contains [% IF %] and [% FOREACH %] tags only for designers as I wrote in previous letter. DBI plugin in TT just for exmaple, in real scenario it is more simpler - $self-{res}{rows} = $self-{dbh}-selectall_hashref(select * from test); Our main goal: Programmer write script with logic tags kinda edit sql... delete sql.. and choose from many usability tags, which are good looking, designers made HTML blocks table_edit or single_row_edit BTW, Template Toolkit future version offers such ability [%# Logic %] [% XML %] edit sql... delete sql.. select sql.. [%# Design %] table_edit [% FOREACH %] single_row_edit [% END %] /table_edit [% END %] --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
Re: Template or XML?
OpenInteract will probably do what you want, but one of its design philosophies is to have the templates to relatively simple work and handlers do the real data manipulation. So from the example in your original message: [% data=fetch({sql=SELECT MessageId, Subject FROM Messages}) %] You might do something like package MySite::Handler::Messages; sub listing { my ( $class, $p ) = @_; my $R = OpenInteract::Request-instance; my $message_iterator = eval { $R-message-fetch_group }; my ( $error ); if ( $@ ) { $error = Cannot retrieve messages: $SPOPS::Error::system_msg; } return $R-template( {}, { iter = $message_iterator, error_msg = $error }, { name = 'mypkg::message_list' } ); } And in your template: -- h1Summary of messages/h1 [% IF NOT iter.has_next -%] pSorry, no messages to display./p [% ELSE -%] table border=0 [% WHILE ( message = iter.get_next ) -%] tr td[% message.subject %]/td td[% message.from %]/td [% view_url = OI.make_url( base = '/Message/show', message_id = message.id ) -%] tda href=[% view_url %]View message/a/td /tr [% END -%] /table [% END -%] -- So in your handler you have the option of ordering the messages as you wish, screening certain ones out, etc. And the template can make simple display decisions but doesn't do much with the data besides display it. In the my answer to Joshua, I wrote that it was bad example of our usage of TT. Templates does not contain tags, besides IF and FOREACH usually. All database access and any data processing on Perl module side. One last thing: I'm not sure how large your application is, but for small applications OpenInteract is most likely overkill. The only way I'd write something simple (e.g., a guestbook) in OI is if I already had an OI system installed and wanted to extend it. We have about 20-30 sites with content management. All these content editors has similar HTML and code blocks. (www.webzavod.ru/projects/contentum/ - example for future customers) Our goal 1. Place all these CSS, images files and reusable HTML blocks (= includes or xml tags) in one directory, which will be Aliased for every site. 2. There is Apache module Apache::Contentum with reusable subs, which also we call xml tags. 3. For every site we can, if needed, create Apache module - descendant of Apache::Contentum with specific for this site features. As you can see it is not 'guestbook' task, and we will extend this system in future and very important to choose right solution now. All these steps done in many variants, but I don't like the results :( We want to share our work, and create open project, but code is not pure, as yours... Learn, learn and learn as told great Lenin :) We wrote configs in Data::Dumper format, compiles them, inserts them into Apache Perl module for every site. We consider to place these data to one file with representation data now. Clear TT solutions - too much [% PROCESS %], and it is not so reusable as XML I think, we dont know XML so good yet and how to implement well-defined database driven features in XML, although we made 2 AxKit site (http://nalog.samara.ru for example), we decided that database driven sites simpler implement as Perl Module + TT. About my problem with SPOPS... I have - Win mysql 3.23.41 and DBI 1.14 (there is not newer version for Active Perl), DBD::MySQL 1.22 If I don't solve this problem by myslf I'll descibe it to http://www.openinteract.org/support Thanks... --- Sergey BeerBong Polyakov Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
Re: Problem with Apache::DBI
I have exactly the same errors in my log. AutoCommit not specified in connect method, therefore 'on' by default. Now, specify AutoCommit explicitly and wait for errors. - Sergey Polyakov aka "BeerBong" Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tim Bunce" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Alec Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Problem with Apache::DBI You would only get that message if AutoCommit was off. It should not be off for DBD::mysql (since it doesn't yet support the transaction features of newer versions). Plus, disconnect doesn't do anything when using Apache::DBI (by design). Tim. On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:49:17PM -0400, Alec Smith wrote: Issuing rollback() for database handle being DESTROY'd without explicit disconnect() at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Apache/DBI.pm line 139. Using Apache::DBI 0.88+DBI 1.14+mod_perl 1.25+MySQL 3.23.36 I'm getting the above in my error_log and am not sure why. Any ideas? I do have a $db-disconnect; line in my modules. Just a tad lost, Alec
Re: ASP / Apache
Apache::ASP is much better software than original ASP. More functionality and freedom. For me, Apache::ASP was perfect start point for ride from MS technologies to rich GNU world (Perl, Apache, Unix). We wrote about 40 projects with Apache::ASP For big projects we use native Apache Perl modules with Template-Toolkit now, but for common projects among embedding scripting techniques Apache::ASP is perfect tool. - Sergey Polyakov aka "BeerBong" Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Joshua Chamas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Mod Perl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Re: ASP / Apache Samuel Lellouche wrote: I'm planning on porting a website w/ ASP pages, from an IIS server, to an Apache Server... Well the model is similar, but there is no support for VBScript. I'd be happy to give a go a writing a VBScript emulation layer which could help your port but I'll need a site's source to base my work on, will you volunteer yours? Does Apache::ASP work well ? Yes. It has the original ASP API mostly implemented, as well as extra features like: More Events http://www.apache-asp.org/events.html Custom Tags w/XMLSubs http://www.apache-asp.org/xml.html HTML Compression http://www.apache-asp.org/config.html#CompressGzip Auto FormFill http://www.apache-asp.org/config.html#FormFill Site Errors Emailed http://www.apache-asp.org/config.html#MailErrorsTo Cookieless Sessions http://www.apache-asp.org/config.html#Cookieless%20Sessions Its also very fast, you can download a benchmark suite I wrote for comparing Apache development environments at: http://www.chamas.com/bench/hello.tar.gz Note the h2000 benchmarks are more indicative of real world performance, as it tries to measure the runtime speed. Does Anyone have good experiences whit it ? Yes, I'm the author so I'm biased. You might contact admins running the sites listed at: http://www.apache-asp.org/sites.html Skip chamas.com nodeworks.com as those are my sites. Does Apache::ASP interacts with SQLServer or MySql ? Check out this faq on database support: http://www.apache-asp.org/faq.html#How%20is%20database%20connectivity%20hand led%3F Also note that DBD::Sybase is probably the way to go to get to a MS SQLServer. They both share a common code base, and that driver is reputed to work. Lots of people use DBD::mysql, including myself, and its very fast. Should you got that route DBD::Oracle is very robust. Best of luck. --Josh _ Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc. NodeWorks free web link monitoring Huntington Beach, CA USA http://www.nodeworks.com1-714-625-4051
Re[2]: File::Cache problem
Hello DeWitt, Wednesday, February 07, 2001, 6:51:24 PM, you wrote: DC On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 04:02:39PM +0400, BeerBong wrote: Cache size after 24 hours of working via 'du -s' - 53M via 'perl -MFile::Cacje -e"print File::Cache::SIZE('PRTL')"' - 10M DC That looks like a serious bug. Can you double check on that? Where DC are you running the "du -s"? maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# ls PRTL PRTLDev maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# du -s * 27924 PRTL 536 PRTLDev maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# perl -MFile::Cache -e"print File::Cache::SIZE('PRTL')" 4178662 maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# perl -MFile::Cache -e"File::Cache::REDUCE_SIZE(100,'PRTL')" maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# perl -MFile::Cache -e"print File::Cache:SIZE('PRTL')" 4178662 maul:/tmp/File::Cache/apache# DC The SIZE( ) method returns the total size of the objects in the cache, DC not including the overhead of directories themselves. As the DC documentation explains, it isn't a perfect mechanism, but it should be DC a lot closer than you experienced. I understand that, but it is not a problem. Why size of cache is not reduced ? There are not any warnings, just nothing happens. What is the best way to limit cache ? May be variant when File::Cache::REDUCE_SIZE(10485760) in cron.dayly will be better solution ? I this case max_size doesnt need to specify in object initialization params... DC I personally prefer using a cron job to periodically limit the size of DC the cache. I don't like using "max_size" because of the overhead DC involved on every set. I'd rather just fine tune the number of times DC a cron script is executed (i.e., once an hour vs. once a day). Another kind of problem appears recently. In logs [Wed Feb 7 15:42:57 2001] [error] Couldn't rename /tmp/File::Cache/.description.tmp13984 to /tmp/File::Cache/.description at /usr/web/inc/WebCache.pm line 15 [Wed Feb 7 15:44:37 2001] [error] Couldn't rename /tmp/File::Cache/apache/PRTL/b/5/a/b5a261aa13cf0ddfd41beb7d64960248.tmp13441 to /tmp/File::Cache/apache/PRTL/b/5/a/b5a261aa13cf0ddfd41beb7d64960248 at /usr/web/inc/WebCache.pm line 87 ...propagated at /usr/web/inc/Apache/Portal.pm line 109. What I can do ? DC Unfortunately the error message doesn't tell me enough. If you can, DC please modify lines 1578 and 1579 of Cache.pm to read as follows: DCrename ($temp_filename, $filename) or DC croak("Couldn't rename $temp_filename to $filename: $!"); DC The next time it hangs, the error message will have more information. DC I'll fix that in the next version of File::Cache. Done... Wait for errors now. ---- Sergey Polyakov aka "BeerBong" Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
File::Cache problem
Hello modperl, There is Apache Perl module, which uses File::Cache. File::Cache object is initialized in every request with params namespace PRTL max_size 10485760 expires_in 86400 cache_depth 3 Cache size after 24 hours of working via 'du -s' - 53M via 'perl -MFile::Cacje -e"print File::Cache::SIZE('PRTL')"' - 10M Count of cache nodes is several thousands. And when cache size is exceeded all mod_perl processes are hanging. In logs [Wed Feb 7 08:50:50 2001] [error] Undefined subroutine File::Cache::thaw called at /usr/local/lib/site_perl/File/Cache.pm line 601. What is the best way to limit cache ? May be variant when File::Cache::REDUCE_SIZE(10485760) in cron.dayly will be better solution ? I this case max_size doesnt need to specify in object initialization params... And another question (I'm use Linux Debian Potato)... Is there way to define params of the currently performing request (URI, script, etc) of hanging mod_perl process ? I browsed /proc/[PID of mod_perl]/, but I think this info is about first request. Am I wrong ? Sergey Polyakov aka "BeerBong" Chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Tel. +7 (8462) 43-93-85 | +7 (8462) 43-93-86 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[BUG] Apache 1.3.14 front-end-back-end weirdness.
Hello! I tried to migrate to Apache 1.3.14 from 1.3.12 ... Heh. After recompiling apache and starting the server with the same config get 400 Bad request on any request to mod_perl back-end server. Static html and images are returned ok. Some time was spent for hunting the problem. Turn on rewriting log with level 9. RewriteEngine On RewriteLogLevel 9 RewriteLog /var/apache/simple_d/logs/rewrite.log RewriteMap ports txt:/usr/local/apache/conf/port_d.map RewriteRule ^/(.*\.s?asp)$ http://$host:${ports:%{SERVER_PORT}|8081}/$1 [P,L] Request /paper/test.asp translated to http://www.samara.ru:|8081}/paper/test.asp It seems that mod_rewrite processes nested back references not correctly. Just meets first closing brace and consider it as back reference. I saw mod_rewrite fixes in CHANGES list, but it seems to be a candidate for new fix. During this hunting I found another security hole of my config... http://forum.swarthmore.edu/epigone/modperl/shugrendbax/24191847.NAA4593 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proxy hijakers used my site very active, althoug in config was RewriteRule ^proxy:.* - [F] Fixed via ProxyRequests off... -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Templates - what choose ?
Hello all! For most projects we use Apache::ASP and it is sufficient and cool. But now we develop regional WEB portal with many features including publishing several magazines online on site, weather forecasts with archiving them, forums, chats and many others services. All materials can be binded with orher by some relations. I think about implementaion of this project with Perl Apache handlers and template system. There are HTML::Template, HTML::DynamicTemplate and I saw others. I installed HTML::Template 2.0, write mod_perl script anf compare it with identical Apache::ASP script. Apache::ASP was faster slightly although I used cache functionality of HTML::Template. Can you advise simple, high performance Perl module for processing templates. What uses monsters kinda www.imdb.com ? -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
Converting pseudo URI to QueryString
Hello all! I learned that most search engines ignores scripts with query string (Altavista for instance). Correct me if I wrong... Most of my sites are several Apache::ASP scripts with query_string parameters... They work with database. I can convert pseudo URI kinda /band/134/ to /band.asp?id=134 via mod_rewrite, but I want to configure this at runtime, without restarting Apache... I want to use Apache::ASP further and get this ability... Any advices ? Thanx in advance! -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
RE: ErrorDocument problem
Joshua, thanx for answer - I solve this problem already... I had secured back-end server from direct client access. Only local proxy requests was accepted. And after this condition I replaced IP address of server with Real IP address of client. As result, on internal redirect (with real address already) to ErrorDocument I got 404 File Not Found + additional Forbidden on ErrorDocument redirect. (I did't see this text, because My Explorer returns "friendly" response :))) - sub My::ProxyRemoteAddr ($) { my $r = shift; return FORBIDDEN unless ($r-connection-remote_ip =~ "ip_address_of_my_server"); if (my ($ip) = $r-header_in('X-Real-IP') =~ /([^,\s]+)$/) { $r-connection-remote_ip($ip); } return OK; } - I rewrite this sub - and now all is ok! - sub My::ProxyRemoteAddr ($) { my $r = shift; return FORBIDDEN if (!($r-connection-remote_ip =~ "ip_address_of_my_server") $r-prev $r-prev-status != 404); if (my ($ip) = $r-header_in('X-Real-IP') =~ /([^,\s]+)$/) { $r-connection-remote_ip($ip); } return OK; } - -Original Message- From: Joshua Chamas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:14 PM To: BeerBong Cc: ModPerl Subject: Re: ErrorDocument problem I'm curious to know whether there's anything in your error_log if Debug is set to -2 for Apache::ASP, to see if Apache::ASP is handling the .asp request and not returning the right error code. It should return the 404 just fine though and the ErrorDocument should pick it up from there. --Joshua _ Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc. NodeWorks free web link monitoring Huntington Beach, CA USA http://www.nodeworks.com 1-714-625-4051 BeerBong wrote: Hello all! I have a two apache server model (front-end - simple, back-end - power) I want return custom page on 404 status. .asp, .pl files are passed to back-end via mod_rewrite on simple Apache (I'm using Apache::ASP). When I trying to access 1. /not_existing_file - works cgi script on simple, works fine 2. /not_existing_file.asp - I get standart not found message, generated by browser! although 3. /cgi-bin/error.pl - returns normal output generated by power apache. It seems that ErrorDocument for power Apache doesnt work... How I can fix this problem ? :( Part of httpd.conf --- IfDefine simple ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/web/cgi-bin/ Location /cgi-bin SetHandler cgi-script /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.cgi /IfDefine IfDefine power Alias /cgi-bin /usr/web/cgi-bin Location /cgi-bin SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI PerlSendHeader On /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.pl (error.pl is symbolic link to error.cgi) /IfDefine --- -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
ErrorDocument problem
Hello all! I have a two apache server model (front-end - simple, back-end - power) I want return custom page on 404 status. .asp, .pl files are passed to back-end via mod_rewrite on simple Apache (I'm using Apache::ASP). When I trying to access 1. /not_existing_file - works cgi script on simple, works fine 2. /not_existing_file.asp - I get standart not found message, generated by browser! although 3. /cgi-bin/error.pl - returns normal output generated by power apache. It seems that ErrorDocument for power Apache doesnt work... How I can fix this problem ? :( Part of httpd.conf --- IfDefine simple ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/web/cgi-bin/ Location /cgi-bin SetHandler cgi-script /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.cgi /IfDefine IfDefine power Alias /cgi-bin /usr/web/cgi-bin Location /cgi-bin SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI PerlSendHeader On /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.pl (error.pl is symbolic link to error.cgi) /IfDefine --- -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru
RE: ErrorDocument problem
-Original Message- From: BeerBong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:37 PM To: Nouguier Subject: RE: ErrorDocument problem Nope, I tried to copy error.cgi to error.pl - result the same :( -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nouguier Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 5:28 PM To: BeerBong Cc: ModPerl Subject: Re: ErrorDocument problem BeerBong wrote: Hello all! I have a two apache server model (front-end - simple, back-end - power) I want return custom page on 404 status. .asp, .pl files are passed to back-end via mod_rewrite on simple Apache (I'm using Apache::ASP). When I trying to access 1. /not_existing_file - works cgi script on simple, works fine 2. /not_existing_file.asp - I get standart not found message, generated by browser! although 3. /cgi-bin/error.pl - returns normal output generated by power apache. It seems that ErrorDocument for power Apache doesnt work... How I can fix this problem ? :( Part of httpd.conf --- IfDefine simple ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/web/cgi-bin/ Location /cgi-bin SetHandler cgi-script /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.cgi /IfDefine IfDefine power Alias /cgi-bin /usr/web/cgi-bin Location /cgi-bin SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI PerlSendHeader On /Location ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/error.pl (error.pl is symbolic link to error.cgi) /IfDefine --- -- Sergey Polyakov - chief of WebZavod http://www.webzavod.ru Hi sergey, Perhaps you should add FollowSymLinks to your Options...
[OT] mod_auth_digest bug; Programming modules information needed...
Hello all! Today I tried to install mod_auth_digest (Apache 1.3.12). Installed without any problems, but when I request scripts with parameters in protected directory - Bad Request requested URI /manager/script.asp not equals /manager/script.asp?param_1=23 Or something like this. I now that mod_auth_digest is experemental module, it is just bug report. And another question. I need to place homepages of one user's group on one site, and another group on another. mod_userdir does not allow to do this. I found mod_userpath.c and change it slightly. Script doesn't work, and I don't know where I can read documentation about writing modules. I know that there is www.modperl.com and O'Reilly book (I'm not too reach to buy this book here - Russia), but may be you can tell me about another resources ? #include "httpd.h" #include "http_config.h" module userpath_module; #define DEFAULT_USER_PATH "/usr/local/etc/httpd/htdocs/" void *create_userpath_config (pool *dummy, server_rec *s) return (void*)DEFAULT_USER_PATH; } char *set_user_path (cmd_parms *cmd, void *dummy, char *arg) { void *server_conf = cmd-server-module_config; ap_set_module_config (server_conf, userpath_module, ap_pstrdup (cmd-pool, arg)); return NULL; } command_rec userpath_cmds[] = { { "UserPath", set_user_path, NULL, RSRC_CONF, TAKE1, "the directory which contains all user html directories or 'disabled'" }, { NULL } }; int translate_userpath (request_rec *r) { void *server_conf = r-server-module_config; char *userpath = (char *)ap_get_module_config(server_conf, userpath_module) ; char *name = r-uri; if (userpath != NULL strcasecmp(userpath, "disabled") != 0 name[0] == '/' name[1] == '~') { char *w, *dname; dname = name + 2; w = ap_getword(r-pool, dname, '/'); r-filename = ap_pstrcat (r-pool, userpath, "/", w, "/public_html", dna me, NULL); return OK; } return DECLINED; } module userpath_module = { STANDARD_MODULE_STUFF, NULL,/* initializer */ NULL,/* dir config creater */ NULL,/* dir merger --- default is to override */ create_userpath_config, /* server config */ NULL,/* merge server config */ userpath_cmds, /* command table */ NULL,/* handlers */ translate_userpath, /* filename translation */ NULL,/* check_user_id */ NULL,/* check auth */ NULL,/* check access */ NULL,/* type_checker */ NULL,/* fixups */ NULL /* logger */ }; Sergey Polyakov - Chief of WebZavod. http://www.webzavod.ru
mod_ssl in fronend-backend Apache configuration
Hello all! I need encrypted access to some directories on some virtual hosts. I have lightweight proxy apache server and backend mod_perl server. mod_ssl is not a light thing, and I need encrypt mod_perl'd script results only, therefore I think that mod_ssl should be in back-end server. Am I right ? Does mod_proxy pass ssl encrypted data? And if I'm right and such configuration is possible and correct, are there any examples of configuring 2 apache servers frontend - mod_proxy backend - mod_perl + mod_ssl on the net ? Any advices are welcome. Thanx in advance. -- Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong) Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong)
Advise is needed...
Hello all! I need protect directory (/abonents) on server. User database lies on Radius Server. I have front-end (apache proxy) + back-end apache servers. I've heard that authentication process must works on front-end server. (Other protected directories via Apache core functions resides on front-end server). I've had a problem when Authentication response from back-end not passed through front-end Apache proxy server once and just replace authentication to front-end. Apache::AuthenRadius - requires mod_perl, therefore I cannot do it on front-end. May be I fear for nothing and there is solution for authentication on back-end? I think, may be Apache::AuthCookie is right solution ? Authentication process via Authen::Radius place into SI::AuthCookieHandler for back-end server. But I got -- [Tue Jan 25 16:18:46 2000] [crit] [client 195.209.67.7] configuration error: couldn't check user. No user file?: /abonents/prtctd/index.shtml -- httpd.conf for back-end -- LoadModule env_module libexec/mod_env.so LoadModule config_log_module libexec/mod_log_config.so LoadModule mime_modulelibexec/mod_mime.so LoadModule negotiation_module libexec/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule status_module libexec/mod_status.so LoadModule asis_modulelibexec/mod_asis.so LoadModule action_module libexec/mod_actions.so LoadModule alias_module libexec/mod_alias.so LoadModule access_module libexec/mod_access.so LoadModule setenvif_modulelibexec/mod_setenvif.so LoadModule perl_modulelibexec/libperl.so LoadModule macro_module libexec/mod_macro.so ClearModuleList AddModule mod_charset.c AddModule mod_env.c AddModule mod_log_config.c AddModule mod_mime.c AddModule mod_negotiation.c AddModule mod_status.c AddModule mod_asis.c AddModule mod_actions.c AddModule mod_alias.c AddModule mod_access.c AddModule mod_so.c AddModule mod_setenvif.c AddModule mod_perl.c AddModule mod_macro.c PerlRequire /usr/local/apache/power/conf/startup.pl IfDefine power Location /abonents/prtctd PerlAuthenHandler SI::AuthCookieHandler-authen PerlAuthzHandler SI::AuthCookieHandler-authz AuthType Sample AuthName Abonents PerlSetVar AbonentsPath /abonents PerlSetVar AbonentsLoginScript /abonents/index.html require valid-user /Location /IfDefine -- startup.pl -- use strict; use lib qw(/usr/web/inc); use Apache::Registry(); use Apache::Status(); use Apache::DBI(); use Apache::SSI(); use Apache::ASP(); use DBD::Oracle(); use SI::AuthCookieHandler; $ENV{ORACLE_HOME} = "/usr/local/oracle8"; $ENV{NLS_LANG} = "AMERICAN_AMERICA.CL8MSWIN1251"; $ENV{ORA_NLS} = "$ENV{ORACLE_HOME}/ocommon/nls/admin/data"; use Apache::Constants qw(:common); sub My::ProxyRemoteAddr ($) { my $r = shift; # we'll only look at the X-Forwarded-For header if the requests # comes from our proxy at localhost return FORBIDDEN unless ($r-connection-remote_ip == "195.128.128.26"); if (my ($ip) = $r-header_in('X-Forwarded-For') =~ /([^,\s]+)$/) { $r-connection-remote_ip($ip); } return OK; } 1; -- Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong) Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong)
Re: Apache::ASP - I think bug...
Btw, I use Apache::ASP 0.17 Your 2 server configuration has nothing to do with Apache::ASP errors. However, depending on the ProxyPass used at the front server, you may end up with varying VirtualHosts handling the request on the backend server, so make sure you are connecting to the same vhost that the front end accelerator points at. I'm sure that I'm connecting to the same vhost. I totally have 2 virtual sites, therefore 2 vhost on simple and 2 vhost on power Apache. Other virtual site doesn't have scripts with the same names, and therefore will answer Not Found, if frontend server passes to other backend server. -- Macro proxy_macro $ip $port IfDefine simple RewriteEngine On RewriteLogLevel 0 RewriteRule ^/((cgi-bin/|perl/|cgi-perl/).*)$ http://$ip:$port/$1 [P,L] RewriteRule ^/(.*\.(pl|shtml|asp))$ http://$ip:$port/$1 [P,L] ProxyPassReverse / http://$ip:$port/ /IfDefine /Macro Macro asp_script_macro $host $Debug IfDefine power PerlSetVar IncludesDir /usr/web/inc Files ~ (\.shtml) SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::ASP PerlSetVar Debug $Debug PerlSetVar Global /usr/web/$host/global PerlSetVar NoState 1 PerlSetVar DynamicIncludes 1 /Files /IfDefine /Macro Macro vhost_editor $ip $directory $port1 $port2 $Debug IfDefine simple Listen $ip:$port1 VirtualHost $ip:$port1 /IfDefine IfDefine power Listen $ip:$port2 VirtualHost $ip:$port2 PerlPostReadRequestHandler My::ProxyRemoteAddr /IfDefine ServerName $directory DocumentRoot /usr/web/$directory/data Use no_users_macro Use asp_script_macro $directory $Debug Use proxy_macro $ip $port2 Use log_macro $directory Use auth_macro $directory $directory IfDefine simple /VirtualHost /IfDefine IfDefine power /VirtualHost /IfDefine /Macro -- Can't use string ("select level,rubric_id,parent_id") as a SCALAR ref while "strict refs" in use at (eval 13) line 14. , /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Apache/ASP.pm line 1142 You have use strict enabled, so you need to work through this error. use strict error handling needs some work still, and dealing with them in Apache::ASP is fairly new business. Joshua, this output -- Can't use string ("select level,rubric_id,parent_id") as a SCALAR ref while "strict refs" in use at (eval 13) line 14. -- is sent by another not completed script - rubrics.shtml, when I request index.shtml! I tried to request 778 port while I'm writing rubrics.shtml After some refreshes - I got another output, which is not done by index.shtml! This sounds like a browser cache problem, make sure you hit shift+refresh (Netscape) or control-refresh(IE) to really reload a page. I know what are browser cache problems :) Not it is not browser cache problem, because after restarting Apache -browser and server works correct after even 1000 requests, until I request 778 port. This could also be a bad mix of Apache::ASP use strict errors. Can you get me some code that reproduces this behavior? Yes, I can, but I think it is not a cause of problem, because after restart Apache (I leave rubrics.shtml with silly error my $sth_rubrics = my_prepare("select level,rubric_id,parent_id,type_id,name,alt_name,priority from portal.rubrics"); ^ error must be my $sth_rubrics = my_prepare(\$dbh,"select level,rubric_id,parent_id,type_id,name,alt_name,priority from portal.rubrics"); ) when I request rubrics.shtml I got a error above, but _all_ other scripts works correct, until I request 778 port, all scripts are mixed, and index.shtml returns error of rubrics.shtml and rubrics.shtml returns output of divisions.shtml and etc. And other (not shtml, driven by Apache::ASP) files returns correct. I think that there is some work to do on use strict error handling, but when in doubt, try stopping and then starting apache. Stopping and starting solves this problem fine :) But how about other solution... -- Joshua _ Joshua Chamas Chamas Enterprises Inc. NodeWorks free web link monitoring Huntington Beach, CA USA http://www.nodeworks.com1-714-625-4051
Apache::ASP - I think bug...
input type=submit value=Enter tabindex=3 22: /td 23: /tr 24: tr 25: th 26:Password: 27: /td 28: td 29:input type=password name=password tabindex=2 30: /td 31: /tr 32: /table 33: 34: /form 35: 36: '); 37: 38: footer (); 39: $Response-End(); 40: } 41: 42: if ($Request-Form("login")) { 43: my ($newsmaker_id,$password,$super); 44: 45: my $dbh = my_DBInitialize (); 46: my $sth_login = my_prepare (\$dbh,"select portal.newsmakers.newsmaker_id,password,super from portal.newsmakers,portal.divisions,portal.divisions_newsmakers where login = ? and portal.newsmakers.newsmaker_id = portal.divisions_newsmakers.newsmaker_id and portal.divisions_newsmakers.division_id = portal.divisions.division_id"); 47: $sth_login-bind_param(1,$Request-Form("login")); 48: $sth_login-execute(); 49: $sth_login-bind_columns(\($newsmaker_id,$password,$super)); 50: 51: if ($sth_login-fetchrow_arrayref()) { 52: if ($password ne $Request-Form("password")) { 53:main_page ("Wrong password!"); 54: } else { 55: $Response-Cookies("login_name", $Request-Form("login")); 56: $Response-Cookies("login_name", "Expires",HTTP::Date::time2str(time+366*86400)); 57: $Response-Cookies("login", "id", $newsmaker_id); 58:$Response-Cookies("login", "super", $super) if ($super eq "y"); 59: 60: $Response-Write(' 61: html 62: !-- frames -- 63: frameset rows="60,*" 64: frame name=Menu src="menu.shtml" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" 65: frame name=Main src="test.shtml" scrolling="auto" frameborder="0" 66: /frameset 67: 68: /html 69: '); 70: 71: } 72: } else { 73: main_page ("User not found or you have not any rights!"); 74: } 75: } else { 76: main_page (); 77: } 78: 79: ;; } An error has occured with the Apache::ASP script just run. If you are the developer working on this script, and cannot work through this problem, please try researching the it at the Apache::ASP web site, specifically the FAQ section. Failing that, check out your support options, and if necessary include this debug output with any query. After some refreshes - I got another output, which is not done by index.shtml! As you can see in debug output 'Last 100 Bytes of Buffered Output' is not present in 'ASP to Perl Program' ! Because 'Last 100 bytes' - code of another script - divisions.shtml ! And the same thing happens with all other scripts. divisions.shtml shows code of rubrics.shtml and etc. What you can say ? -- Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong) Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong)
Re: Content management system
Try searching freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/). I found Zope there :) darren BeerBong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello all! Are there any freeware content management systems kinda Zope or simpler on Perl ? What do you can recommend ? Where I can search for its ? -- Sergey Polyakov (BeerBong) Chief of Web Lab (http://www.mustdie.ru/~beerbong) -- Jesus saves, passes to Moses; shoots, SCORES!
Re: mod_perl-1.21 and apache-1.3.9
I don't think it was Apache's DSO support that was broken, I had httpd working just fine with dynamic everything except mod_perl. mod_perl worked usually but seg faulted with one obscure xs package. I think other similar problems have been observed too. In this case though I think the problem is that he's using the Red Hat binary perl packages, which are known to be bogus. I'm not sure what Red Hat does to their perl but it doesn't work right. Well, it's all fairly perplexing, because I and at least one other guy have had problems with Debian packages of mod_perl-1.21 and apache-1.3.9. Looks like the next release of Debian will offer a static apache-mod-perl binary package because of this very problem. I'm just saying, mod_perl as a DSO seems a bit more definitively broken for some of us than "one obscure xs package"; and it's broken across Linux distributions. Which is not a contradiction to what *you* said. Hello! I've Debian slink with 2.2.13 kernel, 2xPentium box, mod_perl 1.21 and Apache 1.3.9 _ALL_ possible packages compiled as DSO. Apache uses DBD::Oracle, Apache::DBI, Apache::ASP. This machine is not a production server yet. But I've tested it hard via ApacheBench - seems all to be ok. Can you send scripts which makes SegFaults ?
Re: Embperl virtual log and mod_perl handlers
Doesn't looks so good :-( BTW which version of mod_perl you are using? 1.21 Embperl 1.1.1 has problems with newer mod_perl versions, because of changes in the handling of $ENV inside mod_perl. So your problem may result from that,maybe... I would suggest to test 1.2b9. It's a really stable version. The only thing that's missing to call it 1.2, is Apache::Session 1.04 on CPAN, but I hope Jeff will upload it soon. I installed it, and no problems while make test, 1.1.1 had them. But all troubles remain ;( Huh, I'm going away on business right now, and I can give you login-password to uncover the problems... If you need it, reply right now :)